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Schuler
Dec 19, 2007, 11:04 PM
Is it appropriate to boot someone when they join in the middle of a boss fight and then after the fight a rare board drops? I got b-listed by about 10 ppl 2day because i booted someone after the boss fight because he joined during the boss fight and afterwards an ank dedda dropped. The item distribution was set random.

Here are some things that I left out the first time:
**Note that I did indeed message the person immediately afterwards explaining why i booted him.

**Note that I never would have considered booting this player If when i saw the board i hadnt screamed ank dedda and three of my friends started dashing towards it with greedy glints in their eyes. That said it still is totally against my values to see a decent board go to someone who joined your party thirty seconds ago and has only pressed the A button three times.

**Under normal circumstances, yes, I would ask the player to return to the lobby.

**Have I learned to lock the party before boss? yes

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-Tidus_415-
Dec 19, 2007, 11:05 PM
I would of asked him to wait outside in the lobby. If he didnt then yeah boot...



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beatrixkiddo
Dec 19, 2007, 11:06 PM
If you join during a boss fight, you're obviously not contributing, so you should stay outside to avoid this kind of drama. Once the boss is dead and the mission is abandoned and restarted, then you go in.

I typically lock my rooms in block 3 to avoid this.

ngagerebel
Dec 19, 2007, 11:09 PM
Rule of thumb, when you get to the teleport for the boss battle, Lock the mission

Chuck_Norris
Dec 19, 2007, 11:09 PM
Just mindlessly booting him because he joined in the boss....Dang, i'd blacklist you too if i saw you do it.

Schuler
Dec 19, 2007, 11:11 PM
no i didnt boot him cuz he joined during boss. plz read the post before commenting

ngagerebel
Dec 19, 2007, 11:12 PM
my question is did you have the rares set to order?

Chuck_Norris
Dec 19, 2007, 11:12 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:04, Schuler wrote:
i booted someone because he joined during the boss fight and afterwards an ank dedda dropped.



I did read it.

Shiro_Ryuu
Dec 19, 2007, 11:13 PM
I really don't mind, if someone joins, its not like they knew you were at the boss. They might have the courtesy to just step out to the lobby, but I really don't care, although I haven't really done random parties in a very long time, I either solo or party w/ my friends.

Schuler
Dec 19, 2007, 11:13 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:12, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:04, Schuler wrote:
i booted someone because he joined during the boss fight and afterwards an ank dedda dropped.



I did read it.



you read it wrong. srry if it confused you

Chuck_Norris
Dec 19, 2007, 11:15 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:13, Schuler wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:12, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:04, Schuler wrote:
i booted someone because he joined during the boss fight and afterwards an ank dedda dropped.



I did read it.



you read it wrong. srry if it confused you



So you booted him because the board dropped?

That's even WORSE! God, i'm gonna blacklist you if i even see you now.



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HFlowen
Dec 19, 2007, 11:16 PM
Some are way too quick to remove members. I'll never understand why some people never have the thought of actually asking someone to leave.

This may or may not have anything to do with your situation, but i wanted to say that.

ngagerebel
Dec 19, 2007, 11:17 PM
I ask because if that was the case then yeah I could see why you booted him out one it wouldnt be ultimatly fair that someone who didnt help defeat the boss. I would boot them out not fair if he got the rare for the teams hard work. but really at the teleport lock mission I know its a pain but so that way there isn't that hassle.

Schuler
Dec 19, 2007, 11:17 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:15, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:13, Schuler wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:12, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:04, Schuler wrote:
i booted someone because he joined during the boss fight and afterwards an ank dedda dropped.



I did read it.





you read it wrong. srry if it confused you



So you booted him because the board dropped?

That's even WORSE! god, i'm gonna blacklist you if i even see you now.



um... ok...

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ngagerebel
Dec 19, 2007, 11:19 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:17, Schuler wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:15, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:13, Schuler wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:12, Chuck_Norris wrote:
[quote]On 2007-12-19 20:04, Schuler wrote:
i booted someone because he joined during the boss fight and afterwards an ank dedda dropped.



I did read it.





you read it wrong. srry if it confused you



So you booted him because the board dropped?

That's even WORSE! god, i'm gonna blacklist you if i even see you now.



Dramatic much?

Schuler
Dec 19, 2007, 11:19 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:17, ngagerebel wrote:
I ask because if that was the case then yeah I could see why you booted him out one it wouldnt be ultimatly fair that someone who didnt help defeat the boss. I would boot them out not fair if he got the rare for the teams hard work. but really at the teleport lock mission I know its a pain but so that way there isn't that hassle.



yeah ill do that next time http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Schuler
Dec 19, 2007, 11:19 PM
lol no kidding

Laranas
Dec 19, 2007, 11:21 PM
I was fighting De Rol with a newbie the other day, and during the mission a high level person joined. I presume he just wanted to hitch a ride to the Casino, so I let him stay. He starts to complain about the time it's taking to kill it (two hunters vs De Rol) but waits. We kill De Rol, De Rol drops his carapace, and the guy takes the warp, wins the random roll, and moves on to the next lobby. He left the party by the time we loaded the next screen, but since he was in the casino it was easy to track him down for the blacklist.

Name's MDK if you care. I'm just saying this because I can understand booting to a degree now.

Chuck_Norris
Dec 19, 2007, 11:21 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:19, ngagerebel wrote:
Dramatic much?



Ever think of ASKING someone to wait in the lobby? I hate it when someone boots a person without any explination. You can at least have the kindness to ask them to leave or wait outside.

But i guess i'm thinking too highly of the human race. >_>

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ngagerebel
Dec 19, 2007, 11:22 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:19, Schuler wrote:
lol no kidding


hes probably the one you booted lol

Chuck_Norris
Dec 19, 2007, 11:24 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:22, ngagerebel wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:19, Schuler wrote:
lol no kidding


hes probably the one you booted lol



No, it wasn't. But i know how the guy feels.

Schuler
Dec 19, 2007, 11:28 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:21, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:19, ngagerebel wrote:
Dramatic much?



Ever think of ASKING someone to wait in the lobby? I hate it when someone boots a person without any explination. You can at least have the kindness to ask them to leave or wait outside.

But i guess i'm thinking too highly of the human race. >_>

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did you consider that perhaps afterwards i messaged him? It was the fair thing to do srry if you disagree.

Chuck_Norris
Dec 19, 2007, 11:32 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:28, Schuler wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:21, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:19, ngagerebel wrote:
Dramatic much?



Ever think of ASKING someone to wait in the lobby? I hate it when someone boots a person without any explination. You can at least have the kindness to ask them to leave or wait outside.

But i guess i'm thinking too highly of the human race. >_>

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did you consider that perhaps afterwards i messaged him? It was the fair thing to do srry if you disagree.



No, the fair thing to do would be asking him to wait in the lobby so he could stay in the party.

Lyric
Dec 19, 2007, 11:35 PM
I probably would have done the same thing. Too many times in the past I've had someone randomly join and get a good board just as they join. Hasn't happened in a while since I just solo now and play with friends, but I wouldn't hesitate for a second to boot someone who just joined if say, I saw a Hyper Viper board sitting in front of me. Sure, I'd message them afterwards, but I'd have no regrets.

ngagerebel
Dec 19, 2007, 11:36 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:21, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:19, ngagerebel wrote:
Dramatic much?



Ever think of ASKING someone to wait in the lobby? I hate it when someone boots a person without any explination. You can at least have the kindness to ask them to leave or wait outside.

But i guess i'm thinking too highly of the human race. >_>

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OMG its a game who the heck cares. If I rant and raved about being booted out of every mission I have been booted out of we would be here ALL night

Miren
Dec 19, 2007, 11:41 PM
honestly if you looking for something, DONT JOIN / CREATE Random party period.
I learn this the hard way (11 days countless runs when sakura came out, I wasnt strong enough to solo atm), cant get dori. Someone told me I should solo if I looking for something.
Now it makes sense now, I need something I go solo.
I feel your pain tho, many times ppl join in not before the boss but in the middle of mission (like 10 mins or so in white beast S), they get senba, hiken..etc then left the party after so others cant bit** at them.

Chuck_Norris
Dec 19, 2007, 11:42 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:36, ngagerebel wrote:
OMG its a game who the heck cares. If I rant and raved about being booted out of every mission I have been booted out of we would be here ALL night



Just because it's a game doesn't mean the the person playing isn't a human. They have feelings like you and me.

Schuler
Dec 19, 2007, 11:43 PM
Yeah i second ngagerebel. I understand that you dont like booting Chuck. I mean even today i joined a de rol le run and the team was only in the second block and i got booted within five seconds. But lets say one of my less intellectual teammates grabbed the board before this person left to go wait in the lobby and it randomly went to him. you shouldnt get millions of meseta by pressing the A button like three times, am i right?



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ngagerebel
Dec 19, 2007, 11:46 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:43, Schuler wrote:
Yeah i second ngagerebel. I understand that you dont like booting Chuck. I mean even today i joined a de rol le run and the team was only in the second block and i got booted within five seconds. But lets say one of my less intellectual teammates grabbed the board before this person left to go wait in the lobby and it randomly went to him. you shouldnt get millions of meseta by pressing the A button like three times, am i right?



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Thank you,


yes it may be a game. but you know THATS life, people are not nice in life so of course people are gonna be nice in GAMES. Fact of life, Grow thick skin or dont join random parties.





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Chuck_Norris
Dec 19, 2007, 11:48 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:43, Schuler wrote:
Yeah i second ngagerebel. I understand that you dont like booting Chuck. I mean even today i joined a de rol le run and the team was only in the second block and i got booted within five seconds. But lets say one of my less intellectual teammates grabbed the board before this person left to go wait in the lobby and it randomly went to him. you shouldnt get millions of meseta by pressing the A button like three times, am i right?



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Then it's that teammates fault. I think i'll use ngagerrebel's argument.

OMG its jusht an gamez hoo teh hax karez??/?

But really, shouldn't you care more about a person, rather than a piece of data?


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HaydenX
Dec 19, 2007, 11:48 PM
Is it wrong to boot someone for dying when you are soloing (forget to lock the room), And are trying to get a PA frag?

ngagerebel
Dec 19, 2007, 11:50 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:48, HaydenX wrote:
Is it wrong to boot someone for dying when you are soloing (forget to lock the room), And are trying to get a PA frag?



PLain and simple... No.

Lyric
Dec 19, 2007, 11:50 PM
@HaydenX :Well...that one is questionable. Death doesn't affect ranks anymore. Hopefully you messaged that guy XD



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DraconisWRX
Dec 19, 2007, 11:52 PM
I mean if you asked him after he joined, etc and there was no response or he refused then I can see why you would boot. I sometimes get annoyed when I join a room and they are not fighting a boss (Mission timer states only a few minutes in) and no one says a thing and boots me or I'm in the group for a minute or so and get booted w/o explanation or request to leave. Although when this happens I just try and find a diff group and move on...

Schuler
Dec 19, 2007, 11:53 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:48, HaydenX wrote:
Is it wrong to boot someone for dying when you are soloing (forget to lock the room), And are trying to get a PA frag?



Its ok if they dont return to the lobby. If they dont return to the lobby it dosent count against you.

ngagerebel
Dec 19, 2007, 11:55 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:48, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:43, Schuler wrote:
Yeah i second ngagerebel. I understand that you dont like booting Chuck. I mean even today i joined a de rol le run and the team was only in the second block and i got booted within five seconds. But lets say one of my less intellectual teammates grabbed the board before this person left to go wait in the lobby and it randomly went to him. you shouldnt get millions of meseta by pressing the A button like three times, am i right?



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Schuler on 2007-12-19 20:44 ]</font>


Then it's that teammates fault. I think i'll use ngagerrebel's argument.

OMG its jusht an gamez hoo teh hax karez??/?

But really, shouldn't you care more about a person, rather than a piece of data?


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Granted yes you should, but its not like you can go to the persons house and give them a hug. seriosuly if someone is gonna go all emo for being booted out of a party. They really need prozac or something, Its just a game its like life you arent going to be accepted into all cliches.

Schuler
Dec 19, 2007, 11:56 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:48, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:43, Schuler wrote:
Yeah i second ngagerebel. I understand that you dont like booting Chuck. I mean even today i joined a de rol le run and the team was only in the second block and i got booted within five seconds. But lets say one of my less intellectual teammates grabbed the board before this person left to go wait in the lobby and it randomly went to him. you shouldnt get millions of meseta by pressing the A button like three times, am i right?



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Schuler on 2007-12-19 20:44 ]</font>


Then it's that teammates fault. I think i'll use ngagerrebel's argument.

OMG its jusht an gamez hoo teh hax karez??/?

But really, shouldn't you care more about a person, rather than a piece of data?


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I did care about people. I cared about my friends who might have gotten jipped out of a pretty decent board. Consider both sides of the issue...

Chuck_Norris
Dec 19, 2007, 11:58 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:52, DraconisWRX wrote:
I mean if you asked him after he joined, etc and there was no response or he refused then I can see why you would boot.


Alright, in that case, i'd agree with you. Not saying anything when someone talks to you derectly is just plain rude. And if they refused to go to the lobby. Yeah i'd boot them then. But i would actually ask them to go to the lobby first. >_>

EDIT:
On 2007-12-19 20:55, ngagerebel wrote:Granted yes you should, but its not like you can go to the persons house and give them a hug. seriosuly if someone is gonna go all emo for being booted out of a party. They really need prozac or something, Its just a game its like life you arent going to be accepted into all cliches.



You just contradiced yourself. If it's just a game, you shouldn't care so much about rare items.

EDIT 2:
On 2007-12-19 20:56, Schuler wrote:
I did care about people. I cared about my friends who might have gotten jipped out of a pretty decent board. Consider both sides of the issue...



You do know you don't get items when in the lobby, right?

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Schuler
Dec 20, 2007, 12:05 AM
but ngagerebel didnt say anything about caring about rare items though. ngagereble said suck it up to all those pansy's out there who care so much that they got booted out of a game

HaydenX
Dec 20, 2007, 12:09 AM
On 2007-12-19 20:50, Lyric wrote:
Well...that one is questionable. Death doesn't affect ranks anymore. Hopefully you messaged that guy XD



What do you mean "Death doesn't affect ranks anymore?"

I have died (fukin megid) and it affected my rank (scape dolls...Don't leave home without 'em). Do you mean to tell me that party members can die all they want and it doesn't affect your rank?

Chuck_Norris
Dec 20, 2007, 12:13 AM
On 2007-12-19 21:09, HaydenX wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:50, Lyric wrote:
Well...that one is questionable. Death doesn't affect ranks anymore. Hopefully you messaged that guy XD



What do you mean "Death doesn't affect ranks anymore?"

I have died (fukin megid) and it affected my rank (scape dolls...Don't leave home without 'em). Do you mean to tell me that party members can die all they want and it doesn't affect your rank?



Out of the lupe huh? Months ago, sega took that out. Now the only way to lose your rank, is to die without scape dolls, and transport back to the lobby. But just dying without scapes won't change anything. NPC's dying won't change your rank either.

Schuler
Dec 20, 2007, 12:15 AM
On 2007-12-19 21:09, HaydenX wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:50, Lyric wrote:
Well...that one is questionable. Death doesn't affect ranks anymore. Hopefully you messaged that guy XD



What do you mean "Death doesn't affect ranks anymore?"

I have died (fukin megid) and it affected my rank (scape dolls...Don't leave home without 'em). Do you mean to tell me that party members can die all they want and it doesn't affect your rank?



exactly. as long as when you die you dont return to the lobby then its just fine. you must have someone revive you or else you will lose rank. it has been like that for about two or three months lol

Syl
Dec 20, 2007, 12:16 AM
On 2007-12-19 21:05, Schuler wrote:
but ngagerebel didnt say anything about caring about rare items though. ngagereble said suck it up to all those pansy's out there who care so much that they got booted out of a game



I bet if you got booted randomly from a party for no ascertained reason you'd be a bit dumbfounded and pissed. Sure it might be a game but it's rude nonetheless.

Don't deny it in favor of your argument either http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Schuler
Dec 20, 2007, 12:19 AM
On 2007-12-19 21:16, SylviaEspada wrote:

On 2007-12-19 21:05, Schuler wrote:
but ngagerebel didnt say anything about caring about rare items though. ngagereble said suck it up to all those pansy's out there who care so much that they got booted out of a game



I bet if you got booted randomly from a party for no ascertained reason you'd be a bit dumbfounded and pissed. Sure it might be a game but it's rude nonetheless.

Don't deny it in favor of your argument either http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



But I already mentioned that i have above....


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In the end i suppose this comes down to each person's individual morality. So until a concensus can be reached act upon what you feel is right i suppose

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Sychosis
Dec 20, 2007, 12:33 AM
No contribution, no rarz. Plain and simple.

Now, what exactly was going on in the boss room to warrant your reaction? Were these people with you the type to run over and grab things without thinking? If so, then booting the guy was OK IMO. It's unfair to be booted without a reason, but it's even less fair that the hard work of those in the party rewards the only person who did nothing to help. If you were all gawking over the shiny and there was sufficient time/restraint to ask the guy to leave, then you probably should have.

Were the people you were with your friends? I know I personally would feel sick to my stomach if my forgetfulness resulted in the item a friend has been searching for, for months went to some random. If so, I can totally understand why you would.

Broodstar1337
Dec 20, 2007, 12:35 AM
For the OP...

This is exactly why no matter how many people will ever play this game, PSU will remain a solo experience. Let your fucking greed go. It's 0s and 1s that give you a little bit more attack power. You never know if the guy you hastily booted for your own selfishness could've contributed to future gains. You're depriving another player the privilege to play with you the next round, and I think that's fucked up.

Schuler
Dec 20, 2007, 12:41 AM
On 2007-12-19 21:33, Sychosis wrote:
No contribution, no rarz. Plain and simple.

Now, what exactly was going on in the boss room to warrant your reaction? Were these people with you the type to run over and grab things without thinking? If so, then booting the guy was OK IMO. It's unfair to be booted without a reason, but it's even less fair that the hard work of those in the party rewards the only person who did nothing to help. If you were all gawking over the shiny and there was sufficient time/restraint to ask the guy to leave, then you probably should have.

Were the people you were with your friends? I know I personally would feel sick to my stomach if my forgetfulness resulted in the item a friend has been searching for, for months went to some random. If so, I can totally understand why you would.



exactly.

To Broodstar- i already mentioned that i messaged this person, explained the situation, and invited him to play again but only got b-listed.

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Chuck_Norris
Dec 20, 2007, 12:47 AM
On 2007-12-19 21:35, Broodstar1337 wrote:
For the OP...

This is exactly why no matter how many people will ever play this game, PSU will remain a solo experience. Let your fucking greed go. It's 0s and 1s that give you a little bit more attack power. You never know if the guy you hastily booted for your own selfishness could've contributed to future gains. You're depriving another player the privilege to play with you the next round, and I think that's fucked up.



I totally agree.

AC9breaker
Dec 20, 2007, 02:02 AM
On 2007-12-19 20:48, Chuck_Norris wrote:
But really, shouldn't you care more about a person, rather than a piece of data?
Chuck_Norris on 2007-12-19 20:50 ]


lol, I can't help but think of the Waterboarding issue of prisoners when reading that comment. Either way, I think thats some pretty naive thinking.


The same argument could be used for the OP. That person who joined should have been considerate of the OP's feelings. Its all subjective.

DoubleJG
Dec 20, 2007, 02:51 AM
On 2007-12-19 20:04, Schuler wrote:
Is it appropriate to boot someone when they join in the middle of a boss fight and then after the fight a rare board drops? I got blisted by about 10 ppl 2day because i booted someone after the boss fight because he joined during the boss fight and afterwards an ank dedda dropped.



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Maybe I'm a rare case, but if I EVER join a game and get a rare item, even if it's a cheap Kerseline, I will drop it instantly for another party member to receive. I wasn't there to earn it, therefor it should not belong to me.

darkante
Dec 20, 2007, 02:57 AM
I donīt really care if people dropped in late or anything if it werenīt a rare i have searched for a very very long time.
If itīs either a Blackbull/Rattlesnake i would say "Sorry but gtfo for my inner demon just came out lolz" http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
I donīt like kicking people, but cmon...if you have spent weeks searching for it..sometimes you canīt help be a little rude.



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Weak
Dec 20, 2007, 03:05 AM
Things you could have done better:

1. Locked your game - I'm sure locking is the last thing on your mind when you're in the middle of a boss fight. Why didn't you just lock it in the middle of the mission if you're expecting something rare?

2. Tell him/her to wait in the lobby or leave until the boss fight is over - This is pretty simple.

3. Nothing - What's your problem? I don't like people like you, honestly. If you're going to make an open game, you're allowing anyone to join at any time. Not everyone wants to start a party, some people just like to join others. It's your fault for getting blacklisted, because you were overcome by greed over the board. It doesn't matter that the person didn't contribute to the fight. Instead of being somewhat considerate, you booted the person, which means they can't join the party again unless you reform it. It's possible that there weren't any other open or existing parties, and they were desperate to find someone else to run missions with. I hope the board was worth making yourself look like a jerk.

Bottom line? Don't assert control over loot when you're running a public party.

AnamanaAU
Dec 20, 2007, 03:09 AM
Getting kicked from a party is serious business. I recently kicked a girl from my party because she wouldn't shut up about anime and kept dying around 300 times. Well close to it. I think in that situation, you shouldn't need to notify them that you're removing them. If they're not doing their job, they go.

I did give her 5 Scapes and told her not to tank as a force, but that didn't help.


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benover
Dec 20, 2007, 03:34 AM
can some1 tell me if this is fair or just me but i was runs sleeping warror s2 with a friend. he left and some1 els joined and 1 of the drops i got some calluin the mat all hunters are looking for and. he keeped asking me for it we made a deal. then i droped it in mission thinking i get my thing after then he booted me so what u guys think and it that every1 still after that calluim stuff

darkante
Dec 20, 2007, 03:38 AM
On 2007-12-20 00:34, benover wrote:
can some1 tell me if this is fair or just me but i was runs sleeping warror s2 with a friend. he left and some1 els joined and 1 of the drops i got some calluin the mat all hunters are looking for and. he keeped asking me for it we made a deal. then i droped it in mission thinking i get my thing after then he booted me so what u guys think and it that every1 still after that calluim stuff



Werenīt you the leader? O.o
Doesnīt sound fair in my eyes at least.

AnamanaAU
Dec 20, 2007, 03:43 AM
On 2007-12-20 00:34, benover wrote:
can some1 tell me if this is fair or just me but i was runs sleeping warror s2 with a friend. he left and some1 els joined and 1 of the drops i got some calluin the mat all hunters are looking for and. he keeped asking me for it we made a deal. then i droped it in mission thinking i get my thing after then he booted me so what u guys think and it that every1 still after that calluim stuff
What was his name? Spread that he's a theif on the official boards.

ngagerebel
Dec 20, 2007, 04:30 AM
Its just a game people! who the heck cares if NOA_MARIO doesnt like me or the beast char over there doesnt like me, its just a game. I have been booted out of so many parties for no apparent reason, you dont see me crying in the forums saying its messed up or not. Its just a game. PLAIN AND SIMPLE LEAVE IT AT THAT. Just think of it as Life with blacklist!
Yes it may hurt peoples feelings, if your going to be emo about it go play with someone else. thats why its an MMORPG. there is more than that ONE person.

Libram
Dec 20, 2007, 11:01 AM
I love how so many people are jumping down the OP and each other's throats. I'd like to point out that the OP asked whether booting under those circumstances was acceptable or not, and this was most likely because he made a social faux pa and didn't know any better. These personal attacks are unnecessary. The only serve to drive people away, and we don't need to be doing that for a game with so few people on it already.

Gen2000
Dec 20, 2007, 03:11 PM
I got quick-booted from a party when a Gudda Skela dropped. The person said he/she was looking for it for months and got desperate which I can understand but it's still very lame. I told the person I would have given it to him if they asked since I already had one. Just another person I wouldn't want to play from this community. The funny (or messed up?) thing is that recently I found another Gudda Skela and the same person bought it from from my shop.

The lack of communication and greed in this game can be amazing at times.

Pretty agree with Broodstar and Weak's post on this subject.

sirrokr
Dec 20, 2007, 03:31 PM
I agree with the "No contribution, no rares." At least he was courteous enough to explain himself afterwards. I quit joining public missions because I always get quick booted, no explanation, nothing.

You guys are lucky, I like to play solo most of the time, so I lock the missions immediately. I still have to boot random people that decide they are going to force their way into my missions to "help". The one time I left a mission open, I ran LL B as a lvl 6 force, and a lvl 10 hunter came in, tagged every monster, and grabbed all the drops while I was fighting to stay alive. I didn't bother booting him because I was in the mission purely for exp, but it was still rude.

So I say to people, if you don't want to take the chance of being booted, don't join public parties.

Kylie
Dec 20, 2007, 04:44 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:05, -Tidus_415- wrote:
I would of asked him to wait outside in the lobby. If he didnt then yeah boot...



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Agreed, but it'd be better to just password the room as a habit before the boss fight than anything. But I've not booted anyone in a very long time; in fact, I can't remember the last person I did boot...

ngagerebel
Dec 20, 2007, 05:02 PM
On 2007-12-20 12:31, sirrokr wrote:
I agree with the "No contribution, no rares." At least he was courteous enough to explain himself afterwards. I quit joining public missions because I always get quick booted, no explanation, nothing.

You guys are lucky, I like to play solo most of the time, so I lock the missions immediately. I still have to boot random people that decide they are going to force their way into my missions to "help". The one time I left a mission open, I ran LL B as a lvl 6 force, and a lvl 10 hunter came in, tagged every monster, and grabbed all the drops while I was fighting to stay alive. I didn't bother booting him because I was in the mission purely for exp, but it was still rude.

So I say to people, if you don't want to take the chance of being booted, don't join public parties.



I agree

-Aurora-
Dec 20, 2007, 05:16 PM
if a random joins in mid boss fight which is rarely in my group, we yell at the leader usually its me @.@ for not locking the game lol...other than that asking a random to step outside BEFORE anyone picks up a good rare is good etiguette. If they become a hardcase then boot.

SolomonGrundy
Dec 20, 2007, 05:17 PM
it's quite simple: if you are VERY concerned about people joining the game, then lock the game.

if you are partially concerned about people who join the game, then don't lock the game, but have a conversation with anyone new that joins.

If, during an open game, you run into a player that is a disruption to the group (for whatever reason) then there should be at least one bit of feedback to the player in question. if the issue is not sooned resolved after, then removing the disruptive party is really keeping the rest of the party happy, and thus not a bad thing.

Noblewine
Dec 20, 2007, 05:18 PM
I don't really care... <.< Whatever meets your fancy just do it.

However I boot some if they did something really stupid. A good example is someone running off from the group (a party consisting of 2 or more ppp) then decides to come back with another unit following behind that person. As a result of running off they waste time fighting off both units and wasting heals and restoratives trying to survive their onslaught. <.< This has happened before however the person that did it left.

Kamiense
Dec 20, 2007, 05:28 PM
Hey everyone.

Hey.

Hey.

If you're hunting rares, make a party and lock it! It's so simple!

If a board drops while you're in a random or unlocked party you have NO RIGHT to boot ANYONE. Hunting for it for months? Oh well, you took the chance when you left your party open.

I only boot if people are inactive for a long time, or being a jerk. If they come in while I'm doing a mission and a rare goes to them, I don't care. It's a game. I can hunt it later on my own.

This community sickens me to no end about other players.

bahk
Dec 20, 2007, 05:51 PM
So many self-righteous snobs in this thread...
From what I have read it seems obvious the guy was pubbing, not just rare hunting. But then some random person joined, and contributed nothing to the mission, and a rare drops. We've all seen it happen where someone who joined 30 seconds prior gets a super amazing rare, and then most likely quits right after or just gives the "oh lol how lucky is that" excuse. You probably just made yourself look greedier than you were to the party by booting right away instead of asking to leave to the lobby, despite it accomplishing the same thing. But the excitement of seeing the rare, and considering the risk of a party member running up and instantly grabbing it with no second thought, I don't see any reason why what he did was so bad, especially since he explained it after.
So he's not in the habit of locking at the boss. This is a good learning experience to start doing so. Some of you people need to seriously calm down and think the situation through from off of your mighty thrones.

Miren
Dec 20, 2007, 05:54 PM
When I am the leader of the group (I rarely start a random party), I only boot people if
- they act like a jerk
- run off the group to kill everything while others still need to tag for exp <-----HATE PPL DO THIS !!! ppl use slicers to kill the next grp of mob while tag the current grp once for exp, I know many out there and will not stop the kick if I am the leader, wont give warning either, random party is teamwork UNLESS it is title speedruns
- if it is set in order, stop fighting and run off to loot $$ EVERYTIME money drops (donno why ppl do this tho)

jayster
Dec 20, 2007, 05:57 PM
On 2007-12-20 14:51, bahk wrote:
So many self-righteous snobs in this thread...
From what I have read it seems obvious the guy was pubbing, not just rare hunting. But then some random person joined, and contributed nothing to the mission, and a rare drops. We've all seen it happen where someone who joined 30 seconds prior gets a super amazing rare, and then most likely quits right after or just gives the "oh lol how lucky is that" excuse. You probably just made yourself look greedier than you were to the party by booting right away instead of asking to leave to the lobby, despite it accomplishing the same thing. But the excitement of seeing the rare, and considering the risk of a party member running up and instantly grabbing it with no second thought, I don't see any reason why what he did was so bad, especially since he explained it after.
So he's not in the habit of locking at the boss. This is a good learning experience to start doing so. Some of you people need to seriously calm down and think the situation through from off of your mighty thrones.



I agree 100%. That is why if chuck norris ever joins my game, I'll wait until the boss and then boot him for the hell of reading about it here. And then I'll be sure to blacklist him. I dont get why he has to be such a dick to the OP.

The OP has every right to boot a person for joining on the boss. They didn't help, they shouldnt be rewarded. They didn't contribute anything to get there, they shouldn't be sad / angry when they're booted.
It's as easy as that.



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Gen2000
Dec 20, 2007, 06:11 PM
Is it so hard to ask the person to wait in the lobby instead of quick-booting and looking like an asshole if you're that worried about end box rare going to someone who just joined in an OPEN game? If they are being a jerk about it then yes boot, otherwise quick-booting is weak.

I saw Solid/Power S dropped long ago when Crimson Beast was hot and the person had just joined right at boss and got it in my open party. Me and friend was kind of displeased at first but quickly got over it. Booting was the last thing on my mind. The guy even offered to help me hunt for another later on. You never know what kind of person they are if you just quick-boot em.

If people actually just talked to one another...



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jayster
Dec 20, 2007, 06:14 PM
When I join random pubs, I pick up rares as quickly as possible. Just incase the party leader feels the need to boot. There's a chance that some players don't even notice the new guy and pick up the rares. Booting is a good and certain method.

ErtaiClou
Dec 20, 2007, 06:25 PM
Wow it sounds like this guy joined the party looking to do some loop runs. I spent 2 hours this morning helping a random party trying to get one of its' members a cati/force s. The mission after the person left, it dropped and went to the leader. This is how PSU works. And when someone is booted from a party they can't be reinvited unless the party is disbanded and reformed. If your party is on give finder and you don't want people taking stuff without laying the ground rules, don't activate the crystals. That buys a lot of time to explain things. Otherwise, if you have a rare map or are gonna fight a boss that takes more than 30 seconds, lock the party. Having the IQ of a mountain goat is no excuse here.

Chuck_Norris
Dec 20, 2007, 06:47 PM
On 2007-12-20 14:57, jayster wrote:
I agree 100%. That is why if chuck norris ever joins my game, I'll wait until the boss and then boot him for the hell of reading about it here. And then I'll be sure to blacklist him.

Good luck. I don't play on 360.


On 2007-12-20 14:57, jayster wrote:
I dont get why he has to be such a dick to the OP.



Because the OP was a dick for booting the person without any warning.

superdood22
Dec 20, 2007, 07:06 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:15, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:13, Schuler wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:12, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-19 20:04, Schuler wrote:
i booted someone because he joined during the boss fight and afterwards an ank dedda dropped.



I did read it.



you read it wrong. srry if it confused you



So you booted him because the board dropped?

That's even WORSE! God, i'm gonna blacklist you if i even see you now.



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HAHA LOL XD



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superdood22
Dec 20, 2007, 07:10 PM
On 2007-12-19 20:21, Laranas wrote:
I was fighting De Rol with a newbie the other day, and during the mission a high level person joined. I presume he just wanted to hitch a ride to the Casino, so I let him stay. He starts to complain about the time it's taking to kill it (two hunters vs De Rol) but waits. We kill De Rol, De Rol drops his carapace, and the guy takes the warp, wins the random roll, and moves on to the next lobby. He left the party by the time we loaded the next screen, but since he was in the casino it was easy to track him down for the blacklist.

Name's MDK if you care. I'm just saying this because I can understand booting to a degree now.

wow get over it, that wasnt necessary. you couldve just moved on with your life. :/

Darkly
Dec 20, 2007, 07:13 PM
On topic, i think as long as you at least ask to leave/lock it will stop people getting pissed with you in the future. Its not a big deal at all, forget about it.

superdood22
Dec 20, 2007, 07:19 PM
i only learned one thing from this... dont hang with out with those who posted in the first few pages (jeez LOUEEZ i couldnt last 1 minute in a room with neither of you). :/

ngagerebel
Dec 20, 2007, 07:59 PM
On 2007-12-20 16:19, superdood22 wrote:
i only learned one thing from this... dont hang with out with those who posted in the first few pages (jeez LOUEEZ i couldnt last 1 minute in a room with neither of you). :/



I resent that

MSAksion
Dec 20, 2007, 08:12 PM
The WORST thing is when its your FRIEND who joins in at the last minute and gets the rare.

What do you do? I mean i played for HOURS spamming this mission only to have my friend who was helping out somewhere else SWOOP in and take my reward? Its not fair. I could be selling that thing for a fortune and i would BUY everyone in my Friendship group a Rare gift for X-mas but NOPE. Guess i gotta earn $$$ the easy way...

Going to 02 and pick up a random team beat the boss and kick everyone when the red items drop XD (BIG JOKING HERE)

Jao
Dec 20, 2007, 08:14 PM
thats why i look at the time limit before i join parties

caseylott
Dec 20, 2007, 08:36 PM
Did you know that if the person playing is not in the same area like the boss area or if your on block 1 and hes on block 2 if you pick up the item it will never go to the person if hes in a different area. I've tested it many times. Try it if you dodn't believe me.

Reipard
Dec 20, 2007, 08:38 PM
Wow, I see a lot of callousness and greed going on here. You people bragging about booting people without asking beforehand should be ashamed of yourselves.


This is exactly why no matter how many people will ever play this game, PSU will remain a solo experience. Let your fucking greed go. It's 0s and 1s that give you a little bit more attack power. You never know if the guy you hastily booted for your own selfishness could've contributed to future gains. You're depriving another player the privilege to play with you the next round, and I think that's fucked up.

That may well be the most awesome thing I've read in this board. Respect++ Broodstar.

KidoKresh
Dec 20, 2007, 09:17 PM
I told some girl/guy idk which http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif to wait in the lobby cuz we (4 other ppl plus me) were already fighting the boss and he/she asks why. So I say "If we kill the dragon and something rare drops it wouldn't be fair if it went to you since you weren't here for the whole mission" then this person starts to say that I'm greedy for rares http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif idg ppl sometimes.

KidoKresh
Dec 20, 2007, 09:18 PM
I told some girl/guy idk which http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif to wait in the lobby cuz we (4 other ppl plus me) were already fighting the boss and he/she asks why. So I say "If we kill the dragon and something rare drops it wouldn't be fair if it went to you since you weren't here for the whole mission" then this person starts to say that I'm greedy for rares and quits... idg ppl sometimes. @.@

Powder Keg
Dec 20, 2007, 09:27 PM
It's 100% the leader's fault for not locking the room.

Does it suck when someone comes in and gets a rare immediately? Kinda. But that isn't their fault.

necman
Dec 20, 2007, 10:10 PM
On 2007-12-20 16:59, ngagerebel wrote:

On 2007-12-20 16:19, superdood22 wrote:
i only learned one thing from this... dont hang with out with those who posted in the first few pages (jeez LOUEEZ i couldnt last 1 minute in a room with neither of you). :/



I resent that



I would hope you are joking after everything you posted. But booting someone over an item is sad. Read the manual maybe it will give you tips on how to set passwords

Jao
Dec 20, 2007, 10:25 PM
its not like the pserson that got booted is going to hate you forever, it will be a 30-40min thing then every thing will go back to normal. Unless that person is a ANGRY type and gets a mob of guardians and wait till your done with a mission and starts spaming you=o

ErtaiClou
Dec 20, 2007, 10:39 PM
Lol, hard work on getting a rare? Please. Look around at all the hottest mission, it's almost entirely nothing but locked parties of people soloing for some item. Where the hell does this sense of entitlement come from? Two runs in a full party and the uber-rare, that's the benifit and reward of working with a team. People are contributing by coming and going through-out the mission. If someone truely was WORKING for a rare, they would be soloing in a locked party or with a few friends.

Eliash
Dec 20, 2007, 10:56 PM
Personally, I wouldn't boot someone over a rare. Even if I have been hunting it for a while, the fact is that if I left an open game then it's not their fault for joining. If the rare item goes to them then it does, I would kindly ask if they would mind giving it to me since I've been hunting it for a while but if they refuse it's their decision.

Whether or not it's justified is your call. No one else could tell you if you 'did the right thing' or not. If you see that you got blacklisted and/or people are complaining about you then you have a few choices, either a) Ignore it or b) Change. It all comes down to what is more important to you.

YUKI_N
Dec 20, 2007, 11:17 PM
On 2007-12-20 17:12, MSAksion wrote:
The WORST thing is when its your FRIEND who joins in at the last minute and gets the rare.

What do you do? I mean i played for HOURS spamming this mission only to have my friend who was helping out somewhere else SWOOP in and take my reward? Its not fair. I could be selling that thing for a fortune and i would BUY everyone in my Friendship group a Rare gift for X-mas but NOPE. Guess i gotta earn $$$ the easy way...

If you asked them for it, and they didn't give it up, I guess they weren't much of a friend http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Jao
Dec 20, 2007, 11:31 PM
Yes to that up there^

Fried
Dec 20, 2007, 11:40 PM
I think quick booting people is very lame personally. But what do you all care anyhow?

People can try to justify booting people without a word all they want to. They can talk crap about "randoms" getting their loot rather than their friends. Fact of the matter is all the people who boot without a word are antisocial byproducts of the internet age. To someone who stares at a computer monitor or tv screen 10 hours a day, having a little icon next to their name designating them leader is a status symbol rather than a responsibility. Their responsibility is to set a password if they dont want people to join and even kick people if the need arises. However, dont be surprised if you are blacklisted if your reasoning is faulty and the problem was not attempted to be resolved.

IMO, the people you boot without a word might have ended up being a great friend. You are just closing doors of opportunity because you are too socially inept to solve a problem correctly. Ya need a good kick up the arse I think since that is the only method of communication you understand.

Fried
Dec 20, 2007, 11:42 PM
arf, my connection to the site here is apparently pretty bad. Sorry about the double post.

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Fried
Dec 20, 2007, 11:43 PM
sorry, triple post http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

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Weeaboolits
Dec 20, 2007, 11:44 PM
If I join a game and they're already in the boss, I'll usually leave.

Turambar
Dec 20, 2007, 11:48 PM
Let me put it this way for all those going "LAWL ITS JUST A GAME DON"T GET DEPRESSED OVER GETTING BOOTED". If it's just a game, don't use pixelated data as an excuse to boot someone. It's hypocritical to your point and down right rude regardless.

I never see rares as an excuse to boot someone, and I doubt anything is going to change my mind. If you're making a hunting party, either lock the room or put what you're looking for in the party description so they'll know. If you did mean to lock the room but forgot, you can only blame yourself. If you make a random party, you and everyone in that that joins should go into it fully aware that someone might come into it late in the mission and still get a nice drop.

The last sentence leads me to my next point. How do you define "someone that did not contribute"? Is it just the boss fight? The last block? About half the mission? The lines are very blurry when you want to use "party contribution" as a standard.

Jao
Dec 20, 2007, 11:54 PM
teach me how to edit my own post=(

Tita
Dec 21, 2007, 12:36 AM
to OP: whatever Gina!

if a random party is open, all drops are fair game to everyone in the party.
i've seen 2 solid power Ss drop in my tenure hunting for it, and they always went to someone else. big whoop. it's just funny. if you forgot to lock up the party, you're the dumbass and someone who innocently came in shouldn't be the one to pay the price.

beatrix's suggestion is safest, but if you forget to lock at the boss port, you can't go about booting someone when a rare drops. it's just plain dickish.

or Gina-ish. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Schuler
Dec 21, 2007, 12:55 AM
On 2007-12-20 16:59, ngagerebel wrote:

On 2007-12-20 16:19, superdood22 wrote:
i only learned one thing from this... dont hang with out with those who posted in the first few pages (jeez LOUEEZ i couldnt last 1 minute in a room with neither of you). :/



I resent that



lol

gurmlk
Dec 21, 2007, 01:29 AM
The game is about community and playing with others, so how do you intend to get the full experience of the game if you boot people? I for one will never boot somebody from my party unless they just piss me off through things that they are saying. If people have a problem with others joining their parties because they need to get certain rares, then they should lock the game. I hope what I'm saying isn't too cliche for this thread, but I couldn't get through reading all of the posts because it was just getting way too repetative, just back and forth arguing about the same exact thing over and over again. I made it through I believe the first three pages. And if you get booted, then just let it go and join another party, and if there aren't any in that location, then either wait until later, go someplace else, or solo, and if you get too aggrevated from it then maybe you shouldn't even be playing the game.

Schuler
Dec 21, 2007, 01:41 AM
On 2007-12-20 14:57, jayster wrote:

On 2007-12-20 14:51, bahk wrote:
So many self-righteous snobs in this thread...
From what I have read it seems obvious the guy was pubbing, not just rare hunting. But then some random person joined, and contributed nothing to the mission, and a rare drops. We've all seen it happen where someone who joined 30 seconds prior gets a super amazing rare, and then most likely quits right after or just gives the "oh lol how lucky is that" excuse. You probably just made yourself look greedier than you were to the party by booting right away instead of asking to leave to the lobby, despite it accomplishing the same thing. But the excitement of seeing the rare, and considering the risk of a party member running up and instantly grabbing it with no second thought, I don't see any reason why what he did was so bad, especially since he explained it after.
So he's not in the habit of locking at the boss. This is a good learning experience to start doing so. Some of you people need to seriously calm down and think the situation through from off of your mighty thrones.



I agree 100%. That is why if chuck norris ever joins my game, I'll wait until the boss and then boot him for the hell of reading about it here. And then I'll be sure to blacklist him. I dont get why he has to be such a dick to the OP.

The OP has every right to boot a person for joining on the boss. They didn't help, they shouldnt be rewarded. They didn't contribute anything to get there, they shouldn't be sad / angry when they're booted.
It's as easy as that.



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Ok. this seriously made me lmao. Thx for the support

ErtaiClou
Dec 21, 2007, 02:16 AM
O, they're 360 side. Interesting.

Schuler
Dec 21, 2007, 02:45 AM
On 2007-12-20 08:01, Libram wrote:
I love how so many people are jumping down the OP and each other's throats. I'd like to point out that the OP asked whether booting under those circumstances was acceptable or not, and this was most likely because he made a social faux pa and didn't know any better. These personal attacks are unnecessary. The only serve to drive people away, and we don't need to be doing that for a game with so few people on it already.

Turbobrain
Dec 21, 2007, 03:23 AM
I normally lock at boss.

Ever since Firebreak:- I heard of a group fighting De Ragan, person joins in battle, boss dropped Solid / Power S... went to the guy that joined in the boss fight. That guy was like OMG TY BB!!!

So yeah... and I think in 4000 hours I have booted about 3 times and I always say why I boot. I lock a lot of my games and SOMEBODY 'hacked' the passnumber(what was wrong with PSO type passwords?) which is not hard if you pu in ever number 0001 to 9999. What did they expect a prize for doing this? LOL I remember saying 'wha da? this game is locked', them, 'yeah' me,'dont you think that was for a reason', them,'yeah'. me,'you've know about the boot function, right?', them'yeah', me'so you know what I'm gonna do and why', them'yeah'.

OT you should have said your at boss... and ask him to leave. I would leave NP and rejoin. You guys ran the mission and earnt it. Thats fair. Though I understand if you did not coz people get stupid when they see those boxes and pick them up before thinking... though I would try to explain to that person you booted why you did it. Being booted for seemingly no reason is not nice... happened to me way back when some guy was soloing and forgot to lock... thats what he said when I ran into him again anyway:)



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New_One
Dec 21, 2007, 04:07 AM
Yeah, its always nice to be told why your being booted before your removed.
Suddenly being left in the lobby with "You have been removed by th party leader" scrolling across the screen kinda leaves you...rejected?

Raine_Loire
Dec 21, 2007, 08:34 AM
On 2007-12-20 23:16, ErtaiClou wrote:
O, they're 360 side. Interesting.



Don't lump all 360 ppl together- I only boot for valid reasons, and I don't consider myself "working" at doing ANYTHING unless it makes me break a sweat. If I considered doing ANYTHING in games as work, I'd stop immediately.

I think the OP actually made a mistake by booting, but that wasn't his biggest mistake. The biggest mistake was writing the guy afterwards... If someone is upset about being booted, and you write and you're like "omg, we just got an uber rare and because you HAPPENED to join during the boss, even though you didn't know it, we booted you so you didn't get a rare... you wasted all that time waiting for us to kill the boss instead of leaving and joining another party, and we decided to reward that by booting you... why don't you join another mission with us?" Well, yeah... that would just exacerbate the situation. So it's no wonder you got blisted. He already knows you'll boot to up your chances of getting a rare. Who wants to join that again?

Anyway, this thread qualifies...

http://img17.glitterfy.com/355/glitterfy073320T329D30.gif (http://www.glitterfy.com/)

chokeitdown
Dec 21, 2007, 08:54 AM
I'll boot anyone for any reason I see it. It's my game, fuck you.

Sasamichan
Dec 21, 2007, 09:16 AM
On 2007-12-21 05:54, chokeitdown wrote:
I'll boot anyone for any reason I see it. It's my game, fuck you.



Hehe, I even booted someone for not having scapes. I even had "bring scapes" in my game comments.

Desecration
Dec 21, 2007, 09:50 AM
On 2007-12-21 05:54, chokeitdown wrote:
I'll boot anyone for any reason I see it. It's my game, fuck you.


I second that.

Esufer
Dec 21, 2007, 10:21 AM
I'm only posting in this thread to see if Sekani will slap me.

Fried
Dec 21, 2007, 10:49 AM
On 2007-12-21 05:34, Raine_Loire wrote:
I don't consider myself "working" at doing ANYTHING unless it makes me break a sweat.



I work every day and dont break a sweat. I wonder what kind of job you are referring to? lol. Is it an evening job?

jayster
Dec 21, 2007, 11:17 AM
I think the person doing the greater wrong is the person who joins a party that's like 18 minutes into mission. They deserve to be booted and blacklisted.

Turambar
Dec 21, 2007, 11:56 AM
On 2007-12-21 08:17, jayster wrote:
I think the person doing the greater wrong is the person who joins a party that's like 18 minutes into mission. They deserve to be booted and blacklisted.



Alright, I'll be honest. That is definitely the first time I've heard someone try to justify things THAT way. I knew the 360 population was a tad worse community wise, but man, I never knew the attitudes were THAT idiotic.

SolomonGrundy
Dec 21, 2007, 12:25 PM
On 2007-12-21 08:17, jayster wrote:
I think the person doing the greater wrong is the person who joins a party that's like 18 minutes into mission. They deserve to be booted and blacklisted.



yes, I had forgotten that the folks who join can see the amount of time a party has been in a mission. depending on the number of players, and the mission in question I would think that joining after the 15 minute mark is probably a bad idea.

Sychosis
Dec 21, 2007, 12:29 PM
On 2007-12-21 08:56, Turambar wrote:

On 2007-12-21 08:17, jayster wrote:
I think the person doing the greater wrong is the person who joins a party that's like 18 minutes into mission. They deserve to be booted and blacklisted.



Alright, I'll be honest. That is definitely the first time I've heard someone try to justify things THAT way. I knew the 360 population was a tad worse community wise, but man, I never knew the attitudes were THAT idiotic.




On 2007-12-21 06:50, Desecration wrote:

On 2007-12-21 05:54, chokeitdown wrote:
I'll boot anyone for any reason I see it. It's my game, fuck you.


I second that.



Why not take a gander at Desecration's profile?

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

amtalx
Dec 21, 2007, 12:38 PM
On 2007-12-21 09:29, Sychosis wrote:
Why not take a gander at Desecration's profile?

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif



Kansas!? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Desecration
Dec 21, 2007, 12:46 PM
On 2007-12-21 09:38, amtalx wrote:

On 2007-12-21 09:29, Sychosis wrote:
Why not take a gander at Desecration's profile?

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif



Kansas!? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


I agree, Kansas sucks

Poncho_Jr
Dec 21, 2007, 12:47 PM
I don't mind if people say "Wait outside" or just as plain as day "leave." The thing that REALLY irks me is when I'm joining a party that has 00:00 on the damned timer, and getting booted no sooner I step in. That's what pushes me to message people to have a party, but not everyone is on at the time, or is already in a mission. Nowadays I'll be soloing or playing with Fatality and Gir.


And btw... Leave Chuck_Norris alone got damn it!!!! He has a valid point!!!

ErtaiClou
Dec 21, 2007, 12:50 PM
On 2007-12-21 05:34, Raine_Loire wrote:

On 2007-12-20 23:16, ErtaiClou wrote:
O, they're 360 side. Interesting.



Don't lump all 360 ppl together-


http://img17.glitterfy.com/355/glitterfy073320T329D30.gif (http://www.glitterfy.com/)

I'm not, I was just hoping they would blacklist me so I wouldn't accidently walk into their party only to be booted two seconds later. Save me a lot of trouble. However, people like CHUCK and I don't have to worry about that server-wise. But your gif explains it all, so nomination supported, especially since the OP question has been answered on the first page.

Reipard
Dec 21, 2007, 01:12 PM
I'll boot anyone for any reason I see it. It's my game, fuck you.

I hope I never party with you.

Raine_Loire
Dec 21, 2007, 01:15 PM
On 2007-12-21 07:49, Fried wrote:

On 2007-12-21 05:34, Raine_Loire wrote:
I don't consider myself "working" at doing ANYTHING unless it makes me break a sweat.



I work every day and dont break a sweat. I wonder what kind of job you are referring to? lol. Is it an evening job?



I'm a woman, haven't you heard- we arent the ones who break a sweat with the work you're insinuating.

My point was OTHER THAN A JOB I only consider things work if I break a sweat. farming effing rares is not WORK. It's playing a game.

Sychosis
Dec 21, 2007, 01:33 PM
On 2007-12-21 09:46, Desecration wrote:

On 2007-12-21 09:38, amtalx wrote:

On 2007-12-21 09:29, Sychosis wrote:
Why not take a gander at Desecration's profile?

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif



Kansas!? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


I agree, Kansas sucks



What's this? Something to hate with no real reason? As a 360 player I must indulge...to hell with Kansas! D:<

chokeitdown
Dec 21, 2007, 01:39 PM
On 2007-12-21 10:12, Reipard wrote:

I'll boot anyone for any reason I see it. It's my game, fuck you.

I hope I never party with you.



Don't worry, you won't.

Chuck_Norris
Dec 21, 2007, 03:17 PM
This thread is STILL going?