Social Tip of The Day 3

[KouHotaru]

Whenever a new player encounters a weapon that makes the game a little more special for them, please do not crush their monster slaying fantasies. What I mean by this is, whenever our kind little 'newbie' or 'n00b' gets, say... A Freeze Buster and is quite happy over it... That is not the time to say 'ROFTL!!!!!!!!!!!!! U suk!! look at my DARK FLOW n00b!!!'. Well, there is NEVER a time to say such unless trying to one-up your fellow friends of high levels. Remember, they pay for this silly game too, and YOU were once one such 'newbie' when you started this game. Unless you had friends who pampered you with duped 11 star weapons and a 200 stat max mag when you started out. Then you are a spoiled little jerk and should not be picking on others anyways. Hee hee.

[Spy]

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Uh... right. You're really trying wayy too hard.

[DJ_Monkey]

I agree. I have a Yamato+60 that I treasure dearly, and everyone tells me that "Since you're level 126, you should have something better, unless you're a n00b"(of course, the sentence made by them would be incoherent). Well, I like that weapon. I also like my Lord's Gungnir+10 with 40/0/0/0/45, because it works fine for me on Heat Sword http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Guntz348]

i tend to agree, dont insult people because they are legit players and thats the best they found. i tend to ask people if they want a D. slayer or last survivor or something that i have plenty of because they are junk rares to me. the only people i tend to make fun of are those that have duped weapons and try to pass them off as legit.

[Ness]

On 2003-01-11 16:27, KouHotaru wrote:
Whenever a new player encounters a weapon that makes the game a little more special for them, please do not crush their monster slaying fantasies. What I mean by this is, whenever our kind little 'newbie' or 'n00b' gets, say... A Freeze Buster and is quite happy over it... That is not the time to say 'ROFTL!!!!!!!!!!!!! U suk!! look at my DARK FLOW n00b!!!'. Well, there is NEVER a time to say such unless trying to one-up your fellow friends of high levels. Remember, they pay for this silly game too, and YOU were once one such 'newbie' when you started this game. Unless you had friends who pampered you with duped 11 star weapons and a 200 stat max mag when you started out. Then you are a spoiled little jerk and should not be picking on others anyways. Hee hee.



Are you supposed to be one of those n00b rights activist or something?? Well we don't need your propaganda here so get the hell out and leave your rares for us to divide.

I don't know a single n00b who gets happy over a freeze brand and I probably never will. N00bs will be n00bs and that's all there is to it. They will just have to take all the satire that comes with being a n00b lightly and deal with it just like we had too.

[Munki]

I don't see why people are getting upset about this advice...

I just don't think it is nice to be killjoys. When people knock on others finds, calling the item crap, that just makes the person more prone to turn to duping... and there are enough of those already.

Its just a thing about kindness and respect... which is usually SORELY missing from online games. I don't see why asking people to be nice to others is such a bad thing...

[Spy]

On 2003-01-11 17:09, Munki wrote:

Its just a thing about kindness and respect... which is usually SORELY missing from online games. I don't see why asking people to be nice to others is such a bad thing...



It's a Role Playing Game, not real life we're talking about here.

[Munki]

Spy -

Real life or no, its never a bad thing to ask people to not be complete assholes.

Since it's NOT real life, it just means that people don't have to worry about getting the crud beat out of them for being a jerk.

[Spy]

On 2003-01-11 17:22, Munki wrote:

Since it's NOT real life, it just means that people don't have to worry about getting the crud beat out of them for being a jerk.



Or nice guys can take a break and be total jerkoff buttheads. If everybody was on Ragol 'please'ing and 'thank you'ing with courtsies there would be about as much fun as a one can find at a tea party.

[KouHotaru]

Spy, you take my posts and others' replies to your comments way too seriously little buddy.

[Spy]

I think it's rude for FOs to cast attack techs over the level of 22.

[tiger80272]

On 2003-01-11 19:35, Spy wrote:
I think it's rude for FOs to cast attack techs over the level of 22.


Why? I think it is completely fair. They chose to be a force which can get techs up to level 30 but they have a low atp. You don't see forces saying that hunters shouldn't have over 1000 atp just because some of them can't do you?

[Sedyne]

Or nice guys can take a break and be total jerkoff buttheads. If everybody was on Ragol 'please'ing and 'thank you'ing with courtsies there would be about as much fun as a one can find at a tea party.



He's got a point there...eh

but yeah you should let the n00bs have their enjoyment.

[Spy]

On 2003-01-11 20:09, tiger80272 wrote:

You don't see forces saying that hunters shouldn't have over 1000 atp just because some of them can't do you?



I see people say lots of stuff against shot-type weapons, and right now I see somebody saying you can't criticize somebody's great and wonderful find. As long as everyone is bitching about pointless stuff, I figured I'd jump in the lemming line too.

[DJ_Monkey]

Not all n00bs are bad. There is an important distinction between "newbie" and "n00b". A newbie is simply a person who is new to the game, and one that has the potential at that time to be a good player later on. A "n00b" is an annoying player, not necessarially a new one, who generally bugs others and acts mean toward others. So, by that train of thought, you can be level 100 or above(I've seen n00bs at level 130) and be a n00b if you constantly annoy people.

[DJ_Monkey]

On 2003-01-11 17:26, Spy wrote:

On 2003-01-11 17:22, Munki wrote:

Since it's NOT real life, it just means that people don't have to worry about getting the crud beat out of them for being a jerk.



Or nice guys can take a break and be total jerkoff buttheads. If everybody was on Ragol 'please'ing and 'thank you'ing with courtsies there would be about as much fun as a one can find at a tea party.

Like in real life, it makes things much easier if you at least show a little courtesy. I always say thank you after someone casts Resta/Shifta/Deband/Reverser/Anti on me, and you'd be amazed how far it goes. One time, I found a FO red box on the ground, and there was a force in my group. Being the nice person I am, I decided to just give it to her. She told me to come up with her to P2, and when I followed her, she gave me all these rare items and grinders that she didn't need. I told her that she didn't need to, but she insisted. Then, naturally, I thanked her, and we continued the level like normal.

It's amazing how far a little "Thank you" or "You're welcome" will go.

[Blue147]

WTF IS A NOOB?!i've never heard of a noob befor in all my time in pso and that was day one of the dc so could some plz tell what the hell is a noob.

[Eum]

On 2003-01-11 17:03, Ness wrote:

Are you supposed to be one of those n00b rights activist or something?? Well we don't need your propaganda here so get the hell out and leave your rares for us to divide.


I don't understand why you're lashing out when you're one of the people she's standing up for. Cutie (http://www.xsunderground.com/thechilde/the_childe.jpg). <3

My Varista is so hot.

[Spy]

On 2003-01-11 20:54, DJ_Monkey wrote:

It's amazing how far a little "Thank you" or "You're welcome" will go.



It's also amazing how much a little attitude can spruce the game up and get people's panties in a knot, as is evident by this post and others like it.

[Drayma]

Its hard to find fault with someone who is protective towards the innocent.

[Spy]

On 2003-01-12 00:15, Drayma wrote:
Its hard to find fault with someone who is protective towards the innocent.



There is no innocence in the world of PSO.

Colonists without a world to colonize, cramped on a stinking ship, with the same stinking people, where you cant even eat candy legally. This is the world our characters live in; does this environment breed innocence?

[pixelate]

When I started on GC PSO, I was happy to finally be able to use Lockguns. Items are just personal preference. Someone doens't have to understand why people like what they do, but at least tolerate it.

[Spy]

On 2003-01-12 00:31, pixelate wrote:
When I started on GC PSO, I was happy to finally be able to use Lockguns. Items are just personal preference. Someone doens't have to understand why people like what they do, but at least tolerate it.



Yes, but we don't have to tolerate somebody running their mouth off about their love for [insert whatever here] either. If you have a lockgun fetish, it's really not any of my business. Bring it up in conversation though, like bragging about your brand new -5.-5.5.-5.-5 Dim Lockgun though, and thats open invitation for me to call it a stupid find.

[Lightfeather]

On 2003-01-11 17:09, Munki wrote:
I don't see why people are getting upset about this advice...

Some people don't like advice that sounds too much like common sense. It frightens them. Others just don't like anyone to give them advice period.


On 2003-01-11 17:09, Munki wrote:
I just don't think it is nice to be killjoys. When people knock on others finds, calling the item crap, that just makes the person more prone to turn to duping... and there are enough of those already

Yes, being a killjoy takes a special breed. You seem much too nice for that.

And yes, The person could turn to duping but they could also look at the new weapon in their hand and say, "Holy crap! This thing is Crap! Thank God someone told me about the crappiness of this crap that is before me and saved me from embarrassing myself online!"

I highly doubt the latter scenario but it's nice to keep an open mind. (But not too open lest ye brain fall upon the floor.)


On 2003-01-11 17:09, Munki wrote:
Its just a thing about kindness and respect... which is usually SORELY missing from online games. I don't see why asking people to be nice to others is such a bad thing...


It's not a bad thing per se, however, if someone is not being nice, and someone else tells them to be nice, this causes them to go on the defensive.

Like a petulant child, pouting and grumbling in the corner after having been scolded by mommy.



On 2003-01-11 00:19, Spy wrote:
There is no innocence in the world of PSO.

Colonists without a world to colonize, cramped on a stinking ship, with the same stinking people, where you cant even eat candy legally. This is the world our characters live in; does this environment breed innocence?


Hai, hai. This is all true.

If you tell someone IN the game while you are IN character that the new weapon they just got is craptastical this is fine, IF you want your character to seem prickish and completely beat down by the system. However, if you are OUT of the game talking on a forum ABOUT the game and someone gets excited over a weapon you think is crap and you tell said person your opinion, this is no longer role playing. This is being mean.

"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

"Do unto others, as you would have others do unto you."

There's about a million of those out there and they all translate to "don't be a doodie head".

Of course this is all my humble opinion.

But seriously, how many people really get down and dirty with the role-playing when they are on pso? Without a keyboard, it makes it a little... dfclt u no wut i mean?


On 2003-01-11 23:12, Spy wrote:
It's also amazing how much a little attitude can spruce the game up and get people's panties in a knot, as is evident by this post and others like it.

I love getting my panties in a knot! I think everyone should stop what they are doing right now and put a knot in their panties. It just feels so... right ^.^

*wiggles*

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[Spy]

On 2003-01-12 02:17, Lightfeather wrote:

Hai, hai. This is all true.

If you tell someone IN the game while you are IN character that the new weapon they just got is craptastical, this is fine IF you want your character to seem, prickish and completely beat down by the system. However, if you are OUT of the game talking on a forum ABOUT the game and someone gets excited over a weapon you think is crap and you tell said person your opinion, this is no longer role playing. This is being mean.


A RAmar by the name of Spy. What more says in-game than that?


But seriously, how many people really get down and dirty with the role-playing when they are on pso? Without a keyboard, it makes it a little... dfclt u no wut i mean?


I am. I have a keyboard, and by god, I'm going to use it.


I love getting my panties in a knot! I think everyone should stop what they are doing right now and put a knot in their panties. It just feels so... right ^.^

*wiggles*



If we were in-game, I would reply much more in depth to the above quote ^_^

[Lightfeather]

On 2003-01-12 02:24, Spy wrote:
If we were in-game, I would reply much more in depth to the above quote ^_^


Gotcha! You just admitted we are not in game! Neener neener! =^_^=

Anyhow, I would love to play online but I live with Munki and compete with him for the Game Cube. He pouts, so I generally loose. =/ (I'm going to get it for that one. *^_^*)

*innocent*

I think I may have forgotten what my character looks like! I keep waiting for him to loose interest in the game so I can play too. Fat chance, neh?

Plus in groups online I think I would piss too many people off. I would have to be rescued so often, I can get myself lost in a paper bag and I have tried to type using that non querty keyboard thing. It is evil.

It would take me 2 minutes to say "Help!"

Watching me work that on screen keyboard is like watching a monkey doing a math problem. It's not pretty.

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[Blue147]

Grr stupid people.what gives you the right to call items crap.lol i cant even remenber how many times some has said my Kaladbolg+25 is crap.i could care less what they say cuz i know thats it's not crap i have alot of 10 and some 11 star wepons but thier not even close to being as strog as my kaladbolg.so dont go around talk about how other peoples stuff is crapy.AHHHH I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!!!!

[Spy]

On 2003-01-12 10:23, Blue147 wrote:
Grr stupid people.[ W]hat gives you the right to call items crap[? ]lol [I] can[']t even remember how many times some[one] has said my Kaladbolg+25 is crap.[ I] could care less what they say [because] [I] know thats it's not crap[.][ I] have a[ ]lot of 10 and some 11 star we[a]pons but [they're] not even close to being as stro[n]g as my kaladbolg[, ]so dont go around talk[ing] about how other people[']s stuff is crapy.[ ]AHHHH I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!!!!

[Edits by Spy]


I hate people who have more than fifteen errors in a single paragraph of text, but I don't bring it up unless somebody invites conversation.

Also, if you could care less what they say, why do you hate stupid people?



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[Blue147]

spy you need to get a life.

[ChronoTrigga_Lost]

I love getting my panties in a knot! I think everyone should stop what they are doing right now and put a knot in their panties. It just feels so... right ^.^

*wiggles*


omg, lmao, I love this forum...

[pixelate]

On 2003-01-12 01:53, Spy wrote:
Yes, but we don't have to tolerate somebody running their mouth off about their love for [insert whatever here] either. If you have a lockgun fetish, it's really not any of my business. Bring it up in conversation though, like bragging about your brand new -5.-5.5.-5.-5 Dim Lockgun though, and thats open invitation for me to call it a stupid find.



Eh, you could just say "good job" and save yourself the time it takes trying to convince them they have a stupid find.

[Spy]

On 2003-01-12 13:37, pixelate wrote:

Eh, you could just say "good job" and save yourself the time it takes trying to convince them they have a stupid find.



Are you telling me I should lie!? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

[Spy]

On 2003-01-12 13:08, Blue147 wrote:
spy you need to get a life.



Nah, this world ain't worth living in.

[Ness]

On 2003-01-11 17:09, Munki wrote:

When people knock on others finds, calling the item crap, that just makes the person more prone to turn to duping... and there are enough of those already.





That's just like saying that calling a guy ugly will make him become a rapist. Your statement was such a huge exaggeration that it wasn't even remotely true.

[Munki]

On 2003-01-12 15:57, Ness wrote:

That's just like saying that calling a guy ugly will make him become a rapist. Your statement was such a huge exaggeration that it wasn't even remotely true.



Normally I would agree... but there are a couple of things I would say in my defense;

1) This is an online game with no consequences (as was stated earlier in this thread). The individual called ugly who wanted to be a rapist would have to weigh the consequences of his actions, as they are incredibly severe.

2) If somebody gets their stuff called crap constently, it takes little to no effort to start using dupes. And there are currently no consequences. I know MANY people so far who have ended up turning to using dupes (that were 100% legit before) because they couldn't get good stuff...

So, while I agree it would be a bit extreme, I think my statement could happen, and has happened.

[Ruby-chan]

On 2003-01-11 17:14, Spy wrote:
It's a Role Playing Game, not real life we're talking about here.


Spy, since you go on and on about it.. do you actually do any real roleplaying, or is roleplaying your excuse for justifying acting in any offensive manner you feel like? Because if you were actually roleplaying then you'd be acting as your "Spy" character when playing.

Please tell me, what's the character's history? What'd they do before they went on Pioneer 2? Exploits? What'd they do on the long journey? What was it like, how'd it make them feel? What's your character's personality? What are likes and dislikes? Strengths and weaknesses? Greatest fear? Provide a sample bit of text showing the character in action.

If your wondering, these questions were ripped from the applications to play characters from a few places that strictly enforce roleplaying. Since you go on and on about this being a roleplaying game, you should have no problem giving back a reply that's around 52 KB of plain text.



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[Spy]

On 2003-01-12 21:38, Ruby-chan wrote:


Spy, since you go on and on about it.. do you actually do any real roleplaying, or is roleplaying your excuse for justifying acting in any offensive manner you feel like? Because if you were actually roleplaying then you'd be acting as your "Spy" character when playing.


I roleplay almost all the time. Care to join me for a game?


Please tell me, what's the character's history? What'd they do before they went on Pioneer 2? Exploits? What'd they do on the long journey? What was it like, how'd it make them feel? What's your character's personality? What are likes and dislikes? Strengths and weaknesses? Greatest fear? Provide a sample bit of text showing the character in action.


Spy is one of my older characters, so I did make the common mistake of plotting out a long, exquisite background for him instead of allowing him to in the game and allow his actions there to define him.

Spy is an Enforcer, created by the Makers of the universe to "enforce" their will. Think of it as gods and angels. Spy was one one of around 100 Enforcers, and did his job well until the Makers created a new group of beings to delegate their work to, the Governors. The Governors had no respect for the Makers and the Enforcers and only cared about advancing their own agendas. They was a civil war as Enforcers turned on the Governors while some stayed in their services. Spy was approached by the leader of the resistence and was asked to join. The leader, Shepard, was killed before Spy, who was unwittingly used as bait, could answer.

The Enforcer corp. was cut down to half strength so the Governors started making their own, more docile Enforcers, as well as behomoth androids dubbed "Hunter Killers."

Shortly after the civil war a techno-parasitic race was discovered to be raging across the known universe. After the Governors deemed Enforcers as expendable in the eradication of this threat, and Spy lost several friends, he started acting out openly against the Governors, and was caught after destroying one of the core Hunter Killer(HK) production facilities. Spy was deemed guilty of treason, but possibly useful in the future. Spy was put on ice and was awakened years later aboard an Enforcer Ship, the Dark Horse, that was looking for a ship that had been lost for a couple weeks, the Nightshade. Spy never did find out exactly why he was on said mission, but the Nightshade was found derelect in the orbit of Ragol. The Pioneer 2 emerged from hyperspace or whatever, sent both ships out of whack, and they crashed into Ragol. Spy made it into an escape pod and was picked up by the Pioneer 2 and was put into the service of Principal Tyrell.

Does that work, or do you have more stupid hoops for me to jump through?




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[Deus-Irae]

i vote that Munki lets Lightfeather play more often, cause she seems real nice! (actually Munki seems very cool too, and i love the sig!)

ps. i have to pout to get my online PSO time at home too, and 2 gamecubes/2 ISP's dont seem like a viable option at this point

*id MUCH rather play with a courteous nice partner than someone who feels like they are just So overly nice in real life, that the need to become an ass online...!

[Spy]

On 2003-01-13 01:13, Deus-Irae wrote:

*id MUCH rather play with a courteous nice partner than someone who feels like they are just So overly nice in real life, that the need to become an ass online...!



You can't enjoy the light if you don't get an occasional blackout.

[Ruby-chan]

On 2003-01-12 22:06, Spy wrote:
I roleplay almost all the time. Care to join me for a game?

...

Does that work, or do you have more stupid hoops for me to jump through?


To the first, depends. What's the setting, who's running it, how many players are there, and where is it?

To the second, no, you didn't answer everything, you only gave a history.

[Lightfeather]

On 2003-01-13 01:13, Deus-Irae wrote:
i vote that Munki lets Lightfeather play more often, cause she seems real nice! (actually Munki seems very cool too, and i love the sig!)

ps. i have to pout to get my online PSO time at home too, and 2 gamecubes/2 ISP's dont seem like a viable option at this point


I've already got the static ip's. A second gamecube would RULE right now since I still feel guilty taking Munki's PSO away from him so I can farm my mags. (I LOVE feeding mags =^_^=)

Good thing Munki's my PSO sugar daddy or I would not be able to afford all that "mag food". (They really are pigs aren't they? But they are so CYOOOOT!)

I am trying to get more familiar with the controls and chat features offline so that I don't inflict myself on people when I do go online. (Of course I'm just making excuses because playing online scares the crap out of me.) I fear that I will end up getting my entire group killed and as a Force, I'm supposed to be healing and reviving people, right? =P

The last online game I played (besides a MUD) was Diablo and there was so much lag that my vicious bow of lightning was inadvertently killing my team mate. First he was on my right killing succubi with me then he was dead at my feet. Oh the guilt. You just can't imagine.

Of course he got me back by making it his mission to fill his inventory with my ears.

[Jae]

Lightfeather...

Get. The. Cube. NOW! (Yes Munki if you're reading this, that's a HINT for you too buddy. lol)

With Munki and myself backing you up, how could you go wrong?

BTW, I don't think it's not a FOrce's job to heal and revive everyone... but that's an entirely different debate.

[Lightfeather]

On 2003-01-13 11:06, Jae wrote:
BTW, I don't think it's not a FOrce's job to heal and revive everyone... but that's an entirely different debate.



I guess I listen to Munki talk about his Force Philosophy so much it's rubbed off on me. He thinks a good force is one that makes sure his teammates are spelled up and healed. When that's taken care of, monster ass kicking's are the next item on the agenda.

Anyhow, I always play the Scribe/Mage/Cleric characters in games. I am just used to being the one who needs a tank and who lags behind and heals while someone else provides the beat down.

[Munki]

I wanna get a second gamecube, but Ms. Moneybags won't let me. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif I need a bling bling Gamecube! I'll wear that platinum around my neck! w00t!

*runs away to the other room to avoid divine retribution*

Good thing Munki's my PSO sugar daddy or I would not be able to afford all that "mag food".

I think I have reached a plateau in life now... a PSO suga daddy

[Lightfeather]

On 2003-01-13 11:31, Munki wrote:
I wanna get a second gamecube, but Ms. Moneybags won't let me. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif I need a bling bling Gamecube! I'll wear that platinum around my neck! w00t!

*runs away to the other room to avoid divine retribution*


Oh blah blah.

If we did get a platinum cube it'd be mine anyhow mister 'bling bling' =P You already broke one playing it too much and we had to go get it fixed. Don't want you to break the purdy one. ^_~

Damn cheeky Munki broke the game cube playing too much PSO! Haha!

[Spy]

On 2003-01-13 10:43, Ruby-chan wrote:


To the first, depends. What's the setting, who's running it, how many players are there, and where is it?


I play with people who roleplay. It's a simple as that. There is no real organization due to the fact that so few people can easily speak thanks to the general lack of keyboards.


To the second, no, you didn't answer everything, you only gave a history.


Well, that's too bad for you then. I don't have to prove myself, as the people I regularly play with can attest to the fact that myself and my creation Spy are two totally different people. Those are the people that matter: they are the only ones that really count.

[Saladwood]

let's keep it in topic