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killers7even
Jan 13, 2008, 08:21 PM
Kyumeisei-shiki the heal absorption one. Is the healing effect good?

or

Masei-shiki the one that pso world says nothing about what it actually does. What does it do?

Thanks.

Totti
Jan 13, 2008, 08:44 PM
I had Kyu...So damn pointless i got it to lvl 5 and gave up. I was doing upwards of 300 a hit on aF with my Card Regas 8/8 (Which is in my shop for 2.5mil PC/PS2 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif ) but i don't see how you can take it over elemental cards, or wand/madoog with resta.

Astarin
Jan 13, 2008, 08:58 PM
Masei-shiki has the DFP-down status effect, as I recall. Level 1 from 1-10, level 2 from 11-20, and level 3 from 21-30. Not sure if it gets any better above level 30.

killers7even
Jan 13, 2008, 09:09 PM
ok ty both of you, but how good does the healing one heal? if at lvl 30 its like 200 per hit = 600 hp that sounds worth it.

ThEoRy
Jan 13, 2008, 10:04 PM
it sux as its a terribly redundant PA and a waste of a PA slot.

Broodstar1337
Jan 13, 2008, 10:18 PM
They're both terrible.

If you're using Cards to begin with, you're one of the techer classes (with the exception of Acrofighter). Techers have access to Zalure and Resta; both superior alternatives to the card UPAs. If you're an AF that's using cards, I sure as fuck don't know why...

SATatami
Jan 13, 2008, 10:44 PM
On 2008-01-13 19:18, Broodstar1337 wrote:
They're both terrible.

If you're using Cards to begin with, you're one of the techer classes (with the exception of Acrofighter). Techers have access to Zalure and Resta; both superior alternatives to the card UPAs. If you're an AF that's using cards, I sure as fuck don't know why...



Because it's awesome? And the fact that people like to use what they think is awesome? I'm an AF that uses cards... >_>

Forgot to mention that I use LIGHTNING cards.

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Totti
Jan 13, 2008, 11:18 PM
On 2008-01-13 19:18, Broodstar1337 wrote:
If you're an AF that's using cards, I sure as fuck don't know why...



I said the same thing to myself... ROFL. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Pulpy
Jan 14, 2008, 01:40 AM
On 2008-01-13 20:18, Totti wrote:

On 2008-01-13 19:18, Broodstar1337 wrote:
If you're an AF that's using cards, I sure as fuck don't know why...



I said the same thing to myself... ROFL. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Well I really like cards but anyway. I gave them a try on my human female acrofighter. Level 30 bullet card regas 10/10 with a hard / power charge I was doing 1500+ and she was a level 51!

So I bet at the level cap it would be a good idea to use them in certain situations.

Pengfishh
Jan 14, 2008, 04:09 AM
On 2008-01-13 19:18, Broodstar1337 wrote:
If you're an AF that's using cards, I sure as fuck don't know why...


Because they're awesome? Great range, great damage, decent proc rate (like that even matters anymore).

And variety. Every motherfucker looking and playing the same these days is stupid.

Gunslinger-08
Jan 14, 2008, 07:41 AM
On 2008-01-14 01:09, Pengfishh wrote:
Every motherfucker looking and playing the same these days is stupid.


AMEN!!!

milka
Jan 14, 2008, 07:46 AM
I think the only cards PAs that are good are Virus and Burn for the status effect.. I also recomend light.. because there's no good white magic..

CelestialBlade
Jan 14, 2008, 07:47 AM
Both of them are terrible PAs and can never hope to compare to how bloody awesome the elemental damage on Cards is. Save your frags.

razkal
Jan 14, 2008, 09:21 AM
Masei-shiki is actually really good besides what people here may say. Who wants to waste precious seconds casting a debuff when I can apply the debuff and hit you at the same time (1200+ per throw)?

At level 20 it is 150% ATT and does not use a lot of pp. All other card PAs are around 13x% ATT at level 20. The healing PA was healing in the 10-20 hp and uses 18 or more pp per throw. Didn't bother to level it up as it wasn't worth it.

SATatami
Jan 14, 2008, 01:03 PM
I can see Masei having a place on AF if you want to use Twin Penetration or something like that on your twin handguns, and are too lazy to switch PAs. (Like me!) But the question is, can we get damage rates and healing rates for the healing one?I'm quite curious to know how is, because after leveling gravity break with a chainsawd at LL S2, I've come to love the weapons that heal you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Plus, it'd be damn convenient, even if it's not all powerful and stuff like the DPS dumbasses like to use. Nothing against elemental bullets, since I LOVE my lightning bullets, but seriously. When you get into an actual party, even if all you do is hit the enemy once and stop, no one will care, so who cares about DPS, when everything'll die from the onslaught of 5 other hunters tearing into enemies?

BTW, betches love me cuz they know that I can shock. ^_-

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