sad but true - dark weapons are now duped [Archive]

Guntz348

01-14-2003, 05:52 PM

On 2003-01-13 23:03, CammY wrote:
I noticed this as well yesterday and I no longer plan on playing the game. There is no longer any point to the entire finding items part of it all. The only rare items still out there as far as I know are guld, milla, and butterfly armor.

I think the butterfly armour was an optical illusion and I have a strong feeling theres a ton of stuff in the game that no one knows about. I think Sega has gone the time release route and some stuff wont be out for a while. That would make the most sence to me because it would give the game the most longevity even if people dupe and hand out weapons.

CorneliusPower

01-15-2003, 06:18 AM

On 2003-01-14 15:52, Guntz348 wrote:

On 2003-01-13 23:03, CammY wrote:
I noticed this as well yesterday and I no longer plan on playing the game. There is no longer any point to the entire finding items part of it all. The only rare items still out there as far as I know are guld, milla, and butterfly armor.

I think the butterfly armour was an optical illusion and I have a strong feeling theres a ton of stuff in the game that no one knows about. I think Sega has gone the time release route and some stuff wont be out for a while. That would make the most sence to me because it would give the game the most longevity even if people dupe and hand out weapons.

I Really hope that to be true. I really really hope so.

UnknownHunter01

01-17-2003, 12:03 PM

omg that is so cheap you spend alot of time to get some good crap then a bastard comes and like has it by cheating.i hate them http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_argh.gif
Whats the whole point of useing gs or code braker its no fun more then like half of the fun is finding the rares and saying your ligit.

Munki

01-17-2003, 12:46 PM

One thing to remember...

Alot of these people that use lots of dupes will tire of the game that much quicker. There will always be people to replace them (the dupers), but in time, their numbers will diminish.

And then we, the Legits, shall rise and take over Pioneer 2!

krayziegunts

01-17-2003, 01:51 PM

Biohazard

01-18-2003, 07:06 PM

I think the duping stuff sucks. But since we cant do nothing , the best thing to do is just play with legit people and in close games. We cant let some stupid people stop our fun.

Muku6

01-18-2003, 08:37 PM

I was on the other night and saw many. The first one I saw was Dark Flow, and the guy wanted my Spread Needle +40 for it. I insisted I did not need it, and considering it takes DNA to create the flow, and after already reading this thread, I called it a dupe. He then gets all defensive (a sure sign of duper), if you legitly found it you don't get all huffy and spaz about it. Anyways, he still "claimed" to have found it and built it himself. It's not so much dupes that make me mad, in fact I gave up disliking them, it's the fact someone goes out of his way to lie about it.

If he had asked me if the Needle was duped or not I would have said "maybe" considering I traded for it, but the fact he won't admit that it is possible duped bothers me. I hate those that must lie in order to get some kind of high off it.

hooray4punkmusic

01-18-2003, 11:31 PM

F^cken dupers!!!

Eden

01-19-2003, 12:54 AM

[EDITED OUT]
[not a dupe user anymore]

[ This Message was edited by: Eden on 2003-01-20 20:28 ]

Zero21XX

01-19-2003, 11:34 AM

lol the thing is humans are natualy power hungry so if this is the 1st time u played the game not a dc vet u see everyone with rares and u have nothing but a saber and a duper sez hey u want some free stuff i know u arent gonna say no ....HEY U WANT A LVL 200 RARE MAG AND SOME 12 STAR RARES ide love to see someone say no to that LMAO legits are the rarest thing ur gonna find in PSO http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif thats a 100% true fact

TeamPhalanx

01-19-2003, 11:53 AM

On 2003-01-18 22:54, Eden wrote:
Why does playing with dupers ruin your fun? ... What difference does the other guys equipment list make? Tell me.

You should be the representitive for Ignorance-'R-Us. Ever hear or understand the concept of balance? If a large amount of people rare items (also, ever hear or understand the concept of "rare?") then it throws off several aspects of the game.

To start, there is the ego trip that most take. I'm sure most here have seen a loser with a DOUBLE CANNON or other "rare" weapon that figures that because of the weapon, he can handle any area that he wants. Of course, they never carry dolls, and 1 hit kills are the norm. Knowing the very simple AI in the game would prevent such things. In other words, while legit rely on their head, losers rely on their "rare" weapon.

Second, there is the economy of the game. Unless you're more dense than I'd imagine you to be, you can probably figure out how this affects the game.

Third, there is the situation of being purely stupid by trying to "showcase" your "rare" weapon. Again, I think most of us here has seen someone use a "rare" weapon, which completely sucks and that player contributes nothing to the team.

Fourth, there is the teamplay, or the lack of. If a loser has a "rare" weapon, a lot of the times it'll mean exp hog time.

Fifth, why don't you ask SONIC TEAM, the creators of the game that question? It may be just me, but I think they probably have one or two reasons for not liking cheating.

There are many more, but, for now, I'll leave it be.

On 2003-01-19 09:34, Zero21XX wrote:
....HEY U WANT A LVL 200 RARE MAG AND SOME 12 STAR RARES ide love to see someone say no to that...

Many have, and will continue to say no.

Vantamiath

01-19-2003, 03:48 PM

On 2003-01-19 09:53, TeamPhalanx wrote:
In other words, while legit rely on their head, losers rely on their "rare" weapon.

Tru'dat my homie.

Skatch

01-19-2003, 05:06 PM

I honestly dont care, but then again I cant play online with the GC version. The only thing that ever bothered me in the DC ver. was the fact that people could completely mess up your character.

And unless im mistaken, that hasnt started yet has it?

TeamPhalanx

01-19-2003, 05:42 PM

There are other things than just the gameplay aspects.

The thing that still gets to me to this day is the fact that cross-platform play was cancelled because of cheating/duping. And for those still in denial of this fact, that are SEVERAL articles out there on this, both online and printed. Here's one of them:

http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q3-2001/091001a.html

Another thing that gets to me is the whole version 1.1 fiasco. I imported, and wasn't too happy to find out that because of some idiots, the servers would be separated. And, for you idiots, don't bother trying to take the "it's SEAG's fault" line; unless, of course, you want to lose yet another argument.

Those are two facts that affected PSO, outside of the game.

Wewt

01-19-2003, 06:11 PM

On 2003-01-17 10:46, Munki wrote:
One thing to remember...

Alot of these people that use lots of dupes will tire of the game that much quicker. There will always be people to replace them (the dupers), but in time, their numbers will diminish.

And then we, the Legits, shall rise and take over Pioneer 2!

Wrong http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

The cheaters remain on the Dreamcast servers.
The cheaters remain on the Japanese 1.0 servers.
The cheaters are now spreading on the US version of GC PSO, too.

All in all, cheating isn't easily dealt with, not an easy task to take out of an online game. It's worse when there are offline modes.

Munki

01-19-2003, 06:28 PM

Seriously.

Why on earth do people spend so much energy complaining about dupers?

Yes, it has affected things. The trade market is not what it was. But you know what? Just be smart, and that won't affect you so much. I still trade, and because of that, I could potentially have a dupe in my inventory.

But you know what? I EARNED the items I traded. I did not trade a dupe. I may have gotten cheated. But in my mind... the item that I got is legit. I have made pretty fair trades in general... in fact, I tend to turn down trades that seem TOO good. If some guy still has a copy of the item that he gave me... why on earth should I let that ruin my fun?

Duping HAS changed the way the game is working (unfortunately), and not necisarily for the better. But it has definately NOT ruined the game.

RANT machine off. Sorry bout that. Lets just play the game and have fun, please?

TeamPhalanx - I respect you very much for your stance and your desire/decision to stay legit. But why do you always have to attack dupers so much? It is a losing battle, it gets nowhere, and it just gives you a bad name.

Wewt

01-19-2003, 06:53 PM

On 2003-01-19 16:28, Munki wrote:
Why on earth do people spend so much energy complaining about dupers?

Having thousands of hours of playing a game to earn certain things, when somebody else just makes the equivalent is annoying. Very annoying.

On 2003-01-19 16:28, Munki wrote:
If some guy still has a copy of the item that he gave me... why on earth should I let that ruin my fun?

I'm glad you think like that. If only everybody else can think like that.

On 2003-01-19 16:28, Munki wrote:
Duping HAS changed the way the game is working (unfortunately), and not necisarily for the better. But it has definately NOT ruined the game.

This is where you need to be careful what you say. It doesn't ruin YOUR game, but it can ruin somebody else's.

On 2003-01-19 16:28, Munki wrote:
Lets just play the game and have fun, please?

Classic. Some people find enjoyment out of attacking other players with PK, NOL, etc. What do you say to them?

Munki

01-19-2003, 07:03 PM

Heh. Luckily I wasn't around for the NOLing and so forth. I was on DC, but stopped before it ever got to that point (on v1).

But trust me. If that CRAP starts to happen on GC, I will have a completely different stance on it.

Duping is one thing. It is easy (for me) to get around, (for me) to ignore. I am not in the game for the arms race, I am in it to have fun with my friends. I like getting the legit items. I like trading (when it seems fair). If I get the idea that I may be trading for an obvious dupe, I usually back out of the trade. But if I am doing a normal, fair trade, I don't worry about it.

But once somebody can start directly affecting my game... be it by PKing, or NOLing... that is when it turns to BS. That is the equivilent to the 'high school bully' stealing your lunch money. The people that do that are a problem, and they speak ill on society. They are people that gain pleasure from others displeasure and un happiness. These people need to be hurt. And bad. They get their small 'rush' of power by being pricks. I wish there was something that could be done to these people, sort of a 'cosmic' justice. Karma if you will. But alas you can't.

Anyway. Once people start doing the more destructive actions, then yeah. I will be quite pissed. But the duping? I can live with that. That is small fry. Sorta like somebody stealing pennies from the change jar.

But of course, that is my opinion.

TeamPhalanx

01-19-2003, 08:07 PM

Small fries? Hardly. The version 1.1 and cross-platform events are clear examples of cheating in the big picture.

Munki

01-19-2003, 09:08 PM

I can understand that the developers and designers are unhappy with cheating, and wanted to take measures to try and limit / contain it (unfortunately unsucessfully... but at least they tried).

All I mean to say is that dupes are easy to avoid. It is EASY to not let it ruin your game experience. Assuming that playing the game is where you get your fun, not item hunting. I can understand that it completely ruins the experience for item hunters. But you know what? SCREW EM (the dupers). You can take satisfaction in knowing that you did it the right way. And even if they don't care, then I know many people that will. I certainly respect ANY owner of a legit BKB. Or doublecannon (if there is any legit one in existance) Many people may just write it off as a 'common' item now. But who cares what those guys think anyway. There are people in life that illegally gain ALOT more money than most of us probably ever get. But have they ruined 'life'? I don't think so.

In the grand scale of things, I would FAR more prefer to 'deal' with dupes and dupe users than the more destructive forms of cheating. If sega manages to stop all of those, then I will give them a pat on the back. At least I can keep a dupe user out of my game via a password.

Eden

01-19-2003, 09:51 PM

[EDITED OUT]
[not a dupe user anymore]

[ This Message was edited by: Eden on 2003-01-20 20:28 ]

TeamPhalanx

01-20-2003, 08:31 AM

Easy to avoid? How the hell was I supposed to avoid the v1.1 and cross-platform fiascos? No cheating would have meant cross-platform play and no v1.1. Both factors affected me because I had v2 and the import. I did absolutely nothing wrong in either versions, and yet I was still affected by the greed of others.

Not the pitiful "I got bored of search..." and/or the "I can't find this..." excuse again. It's been said a million times, and every time it's been proven to be false.

Because almost every item I want I cannot find due to my section id, I have to play with others. I've met a lot of new people because of this.

As for the "I can't find this..." excuse, it doesn't apply to GC PSO. The odds of finding something are significantly higher than they were in the previous versions. And, something that you may have missed is that fact that RARE ITEMS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RARE AND THUS DIFFICULT TO FIND.

Oh, btw, how would you (if you care to try - I recommend you don't since everyone has failed) defend the v1.1 and cross-platform incidents?

The #1 statement of cheaters was "We're not doing any major harm." The two incidents mentioned above said otherwise.

Raist

01-20-2003, 09:22 AM

On 2003-01-19 19:51, Eden wrote:
I was 110% legit up until Level 120. Thats when I started getting boring of searching for stuff and being stuck with my Red scorpio.

I don't EXP Hog.
I don't trade them off and ruin the economy.
I don't "showcase" them.
I use them so I can focus on leveling up and enjoying time playing with my friends and other people instead of spending all my time searching for something and never finding it.

I dont see how getting the rarest items in the game can make the game less boring, I mean after you've gotten everything there is to find then you really have nothing left to search for, and treasure hunting is half the fun. And I notice an "I" before each statement there, well if you were pso's one and only dupe user we'd have a little less to complain about eh, but the point is that most cheaters dont play like that.

[ This Message was edited by: Raist on 2003-01-20 07:23 ]

Wewt

01-20-2003, 09:30 AM

I have to agree with Phalanx here. There is no excuse for the cause of the cross-platform fuck-up that happened. Since the release of the 1.1 disc, many players have had to buy a new version of the game. Some paid for a new 1.1, some a new US version, so they could play cheat free, which didn't last very long. This came at a cost of time and money for the importers. The importers had done nothing wrong, and it wasn't just the importers, it was the entire Japanese userbase, too. We lost our items, or started over, so we could play on a server with everybody else. In the end, it was a waste of time getting onto the new servers, as it was still flooded with cheated items. We were all screwed.

Cheating never used to affect me that much, but when you get to the point where almost every player, in every open game uses an Olga Flow weapon, it gets extremely boring.

The game was just fine the way it was without cheats. Everyone was happy. Then cheating came, and a lot of the players were angry at the cheating.

Munki

01-20-2003, 12:26 PM

I can say that I have no expirience with the v1.1 fiasco and so forth. Since I didn't import, that never affected me.

I can agree that duping IS a problem... but it is FAR more easy to deal with than the other forms (NOL, etc.) of cheating. And that is my point. If you wanna argue that Duping is worse NOLing... well that will be a tough uphill battle. Of course, this is theoretical, as NOLing has yet to occur in PSOGC.

There is no excuse for 1.1. Sonic Team left a bug. Greedy Japanese players exploited said bug (if I got the situation wrong, then I apologize and please correct me). It was a fiasco. I am glad that sonic team DID try and do something about it. Even if dupes still exist on a grand scale.

But now the 1.1 thing is done. Duping is still a problem. It isn't going away (most likely). Maybe it is just me, but I really fail to see why it is impossible to have fun with this game with dupers out there. If it is so bad, why do you still play? Because the GAME and the interaction is fun. I still stand by and say that you can easily avoid the frustration of dupers still... and I am pretty sure you do Phalanx. You only trade with other legits. I don't see you in many open games. You are able to minimize the effect of dupes on your games.

Since I am a purely US player, I can say that duping is not a HUGE issue for me. It does suck. It sucks to see people with dark weapons. Or now J swords.

But the game is still fun. You shouldn't get all upset because somebody else cheated and has a better item. As sad as it, in video games, cheaters DO prosper. Your only consolation is that you are most likely a better player, AND you did things the right way.

I mean, do you feel your legit BKB is lessened because of dupes? Honestly, IMO, I think it(your BKB) is now BETTER. Better to see that someone was able to get it the right way. Its almost like a power trip, to know that you got your good stuff legitimately.

Vantamiath

01-20-2003, 05:49 PM

Want to know the main reason I hate dupes? It's actually really simple (as In ME using them)

-PSO is very fun, but is also an extremely basic game. About the only goal(s) is to level your character and to find new items. Take away the finding items part and all you're left with is leveling up, which I could possibly give a shit about...200 is just another number.

-Interaction is the entire point of PSO, this is done through trades and chat, etc. Well you cant really trade when nobody has the desire for found items, and chatting is non-existent due to differences in play style.

If you accept dupes and use them, I want you to honestly ask yourself why you keep playing PSO. Is it because you want to get to 200?

Maybe its just me, but in an extremely basic game you have to milk it for all its worth.

And for 9$ a month, you can sure as hell bet Im gonna milk it.

Nitro

01-20-2003, 08:13 PM

You know what? I am legit. I WOULD infact turn down any weapons from anybody. Is that so hard to believe? In my eyes the game is what I make of it. If I choose to not use any duped weapons, then PSO is a better place because of it and I have a certain pride in that.

I find that playing games with people I know have the same views that I do are more enjoyable. The game keeps all of its value, and the company you play with feels the same way.

its gotten down to a 'trust no-one instinctively' scenario. Heh, maybe we should start a club of the 100 or so honest players of the game.

I'm ranting now so I'll stop, but I just wanted to make my opinion known.

BonusKun

01-21-2003, 06:34 PM

heh

spardaGC

01-21-2003, 07:31 PM

On 2003-01-18 18:37, Muku6 wrote:
I was on the other night and saw many. The first one I saw was Dark Flow, and the guy wanted my Spread Needle +40 for it. I insisted I did not need it, and considering it takes DNA to create the flow, and after already reading this thread, I called it a dupe. He then gets all defensive (a sure sign of duper), if you legitly found it you don't get all huffy and spaz about it. Anyways, he still "claimed" to have found it and built it himself. It's not so much dupes that make me mad, in fact I gave up disliking them, it's the fact someone goes out of his way to lie about it.

If he had asked me if the Needle was duped or not I would have said "maybe" considering I traded for it, but the fact he won't admit that it is possible duped bothers me. I hate those that must lie in order to get some kind of high off it.

omg that is not true,just becuz sum 1 is defensive does not mean they dupe.maybe he was just desperate and wanted ur spread needle.u have no proof he lied.i am not a duper but i think u "true" legits are going a bit2 far.u will be the enemy,not the dupers!

PRINCE-MALIK

02-01-2003, 09:55 PM

Elixer

02-02-2003, 12:11 AM

yea the dark weps were duped like crazy after someone made them and now there all over the sword one does suck it only hits once has no combo

Remnant

02-04-2003, 01:17 PM

Sucks, there is no solution. As it seems, the two sides will always be as they are. Sometime in the future I bet most legits will become fed up with how the game is no progressing and probably quit...There will always be newbies, but they will be seduced by the "un-legit" side...I guess I'm ready to quit, I've had most my fun from the game. When you really think about it, which you shouldn't if you want to continue playing and enjoying it, this game is rather worthless and will only last a while. The enjoyment from the game is transient. Some see that as an opportunity to obtain any/all super rare weapons/armor/mags/etc ASAP, some see it as an opportunity to level up as fast as possible before the game gets boring, some see it as just fun time with friends.

When it comes to online friends I'm not sure about others, but I know of only one person who lives remotely near me (1 hour and 20 or so minutes away) who plays this game online and him I can trust. So when it comes to playing with friends there really aren't many. Online, seems like it's hard to meet up with a team of members who have all the qualities you look for in teammates (IMO). I hate accepting guild cards from people when they suck, I'm sure others hate this too. It's not easy finding good friends online, ones you wish to play with anytime you're online...All the dishonesty makes it harder, what happened to honor, patience, the simple yet profound qualities people "should" have. IT is a game, and yet it shows what kind of person you are, wish people would take it more seriously. If you seriously want to play, shouldn't we act as we would if we were talking to someone in person; IMO, yes.

It's just too bad that people don't play the way the game was made to be played, people have their own agendas, derive fun from different ways of playing the game ("cheating"/playing legit/etc). This game is beginning to look just like DC version I.

I guess the ONLY solution now if you are against another person's stand on "legitimacy" is: Legits just play with people you know are legit and don't complain, people who have "cheated" just play with others who have done so, seems like the only way people will be happy. (I know i've stated all the obvious, just wanted to write some ideas down, bored I guess...any typos, oh well)

Sasarai

02-04-2003, 01:58 PM

To the Legits:

Unfortunately I have no way to play online, and I'm partially thrilled that I can't. (Needs to buy GC modem.)

I've dealt with many cheaters on other online games and I feel the pain of all you legits. Remember one thing, most of the cheaters are pathetic prepubescent teens, or pathetic losers who seek fun by ruining the overall online gameplay value.

These people will always exist. Good luck on keeping the game fun.

To the Cheaters:

If you make a conscious effort to dupe or cheat in any manner, you should be ashamed of yourself. Not only are you wasting your time and money, you're affecting other people, whether you care to admit this or not. These people pay to play, let me repeat: PAY TO PLAY. The LEAST you can do is respect the fact that other people are investing their hard-earned money to play a game without your bullshit. If you aren't aware of the repercussions of your actions, just read the countless posts about how you ruin the game.

Edited for grammatical errors.

[ This Message was edited by: Sasarai on 2003-02-04 12:37 ]

KodiaX987

02-04-2003, 02:17 PM

Holy Biznatch, Sasarai for president!!! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_beer.gif

Raist

02-04-2003, 02:21 PM

On 2003-02-04 12:17, KodiaX987 wrote:
Holy Biznatch, Sasarai for president!!! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_beer.gif

I'll second that http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_beer.gif
But what are his views on war?? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

KodiaX987

02-04-2003, 02:31 PM

Dear God, don't even THINK about asking him that?

*points M-16 towards everyone*

Ya suckas better like Canada... OR ELSE!!!

Sasarai

02-04-2003, 02:35 PM

On 2003-02-04 12:21, Raist wrote:

On 2003-02-04 12:17, KodiaX987 wrote:
Holy Biznatch, Sasarai for president!!! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_beer.gif

I'll second that http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_beer.gif
But what are his views on war?? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

LoL, thanks guys!

elfin

02-07-2003, 05:59 AM

People like Phalnax, Ihatepsocheaters, and the president is the kind of people i want to play with when i come online... Hope to se you guys when that time comes... I share your values... Just wanted you guys to know that

GhostKingX

02-07-2003, 11:13 AM

oh stop crying....jesus...if you dont like it leave. all you have to do is ignore them right?

spyder101

02-07-2003, 11:42 AM

everyone knows it-cheaters will always exits on almost all online games, and its getting to be very hard to avoid. I hate the fact that it might have taken me a very long time to find a rare item I have always wanted, and then all I can think of is some duper made his own copy of it.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE-IT IS TIME FOR US TO REBEL!!!!!!!!

GhostKingX

02-07-2003, 07:15 PM

ghost man luv da kids

[ This Message was edited by: GhostKingX on 2003-02-07 21:07 ]

Raist

02-07-2003, 07:23 PM

On 2003-02-07 09:13, GhostKingX wrote:
oh stop crying....jesus...if you dont like it leave. all you have to do is ignore them right?

Hmmm, yes just ignore cheating until they get the cheats that can't be ignored because they're standing over your pked body laughing and then when you get angry and say something back they can implement their "I'm a douche bag" code and CK you or something.
Yey for ignorance http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_beer.gif

On 2003-02-07 17:15, GhostKingX wrote:
I'll tell you how fucked up Sega is...i got PSO ver. us and i tryed to get a HL and it said my number was allready in use...i was like wtf...wouldnt they have told me that b4 i payed 14 bucks? anyways i gave them a call and the guy told me to go fuck myself and my used serail number so i guess ill jus fuck them by giveing dupes away to noobs....Fuck sega and ill eat there kids if it was legal....mmmmm...kids...

Well since duping doesn't actually hurt sega, or sonic team for that matter, you'd be more just annoying players. But thats ok, being an inconsiderate son of a bitch is a jack ass's perogative.

[ This Message was edited by: Raist on 2003-02-07 17:30 ]

Sasarai

02-10-2003, 02:15 PM

On 2003-02-07 17:23, Raist wrote:
Well since duping doesn't actually hurt sega, or sonic team for that matter, you'd be more just annoying players. But thats ok, being an inconsiderate son of a bitch is a jack ass's perogative.

I couldn't have said it any better, Raist.

Javienn

02-12-2003, 06:34 PM

A quick and easy solution to this would be for st to require character storage to be on their servers.

But this solution is one that had to have been implemented at development time... so it would't work / too much hassle to implement at this point in time.

On top of that, storing characters on the server eliminates offline mode. And would take up some degree of storage space.... but I'm sure our $9 per month would have been able to cover that small inconvenience.

I guess its just another occasion of shoulda coulda woulda... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

We just have to, and most of us are, adapt to the way things are now, and develop a player base of loyal/trustworthy/honourable friends to play with.