Which Axe PA Should I Get?

[kevington]

Hey gang-
Currently my Protranser has no axe skills, so I'm going to rectify that. But I'm not too familiar with the axe PAs and I'm curious to know which people would choose if they were choosing just one. I'd be open to getting another axe PA down the road, but I'd like one to focus on for now. It could be either of the shop ones or the PA frag one as I have a ton of frags laying around.

Thanks!

[SATatami]

All of them are useful.

Redda= Good all around damage.
Dugrega= Damage while leaping distances. good for go vahra. >_>
Jubroga(sp?)= BOSSKILLER. HAX DAMAGE. ZOMG.

[Xefi]

Jabroga is all you need.

[vfloresjr24]

I currently have dugrega and that is a good pa so far. I will eventually get redda and jabroga with in time.

[Umberger]

Anga Jabroga (99 PAFs) if you don't have Boma Duranga, both are fantastic boss killers. Jabroga has some insane ATP gains per level.

For an all purpose attack PA, I'd recommend Anga Redda. It levels up significantly faster than Anga Dugrega (the other shop PA), and of course it puts out the big numbarz everybody loves. =p

EDIT: And here is a testament to Jabroga's power (note it can hit a potential 5 targets 2x each). (http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/273/psu20080114181305001tq2.jpg) Picture courtesy of Crazy_Hunter.

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[Crazy_Hunter]

On 2008-01-17 13:44, SATatami wrote:
All of them are useful.

Redda= Good all around damage.
Dugrega= Damage while leaping distances. good for go vahra. >_>
Jubroga(sp?)= BOSSKILLER. HAX DAMAGE. ZOMG.



So true.. *1-shots De Ragan on Rank C*

@Umberger: I can get a better shot with all the targets. it will look much more powerful http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

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[Crazy_Hunter]

On 2008-01-17 13:45, Umberger wrote:
Anga Jabroga (99 PAFs) if you don't have Boma Duranga, both are fantastic boss killers. Jabroga has some insane ATP gains per level.

For an all purpose attack PA, I'd recommend Anga Redda. It levels up significantly faster than Anga Dugrega (the other shop PA), and of course it puts out the big numbarz everybody loves. =p

EDIT: And here is a testament to Jabroga's power (note it can hit a potential 5 targets 2x each). (http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/273/psu20080114181305001tq2.jpg) Picture courtesy of Crazy_Hunter.

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Here's a much better picture of the power of Jabroga .http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/812/psu20080117171145002mi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Darkly]

Durega is good, but its a pain to level, one of the worst to level infact. its called a utility PA by many because it knocks enemies around, especially larger enemies and has a good ability of keeping them pinned for the entire combo - it does rack up decent damage, just not as much as redda or jabroga.

redda is the generic damage pa, its very strong and levels fast but there is better damage PA's out there and in practice is annoying to use unless your in a party.

obviously jabroga is something you have to get unless, you got the grenade ultimate PA, in which your already set for boss killing.

[kevington]

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I think I may start with Jabroga http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Zorafim]

I'd get Dugrega over Redda since, why would you use an axe for general situations? Dugrega's a great utility PA, and at times I swear by it. If you can stand leveling it, it'll serve you well.
Jabroga's great for pure damage, if you can wait that long for the attack. I got bored of it, but it's still the easiest way to take out a dragon. The only other time I can think of using it wisely is against those crocodilians in moatoob, or against any other multiple target enemy with a 360* knockback attack (which would be, all of them?).
As has been said earlier, Redda's good for general use. But, again, why use something that slow if something faster does the same thing? If you want to swing an axe around for the hell of it, this is a good PA to do that, but I prefer using axes situationally.

[Gen2000]

Jabroga is good on opening mobs if you're the first one to them in a party or solo, usually they spawn in bunches and appoarch you bunched together. If you're Jabroga is set up right (lv.30ish-40 and good %) you can one shot the whole mob if it's 5 or under, well at least as a Fortefighter I dunno about Protranser. For PT it would be a nice way to cut off a huge amount of damage still either way, like a free SUV, and then you can just finish em off with another PA.

[Crazy_Hunter]

I usually use it on big enemies with 3 or more targets, Grua Gohras, Svaltus, Bosses, and Kog Nadds. I use it on large mobs and quickly switch to my spear or sword to finish them off, or jabroga them again if they managed to all fly away in 1 direction and remained a group.

[landman]

I started with Dugrega, and I still haven't lvled enough Jabroga to use it in a boss (to slow) but from the three the one I use the less is Redda. I say go for Dugrega or Jabroga, duggrega lvls slow, jabroga is slow, but they are very useful in most of the situations



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[Shishi-O]

On 2008-01-17 13:41, kevington wrote:
Hey gang-
Currently my Protranser has no axe skills, so I'm going to rectify that. But I'm not too familiar with the axe PAs and I'm curious to know which people would choose if they were choosing just one. I'd be open to getting another axe PA down the road, but I'd like one to focus on for now. It could be either of the shop ones or the PA frag one as I have a ton of frags laying around.

Thanks!

jabroga is teh pwnzore

[biggabertha]

Anga Dugrega is the very definition of the Axe. Situational, powerful, huge damage while controlling dangerous creatures but what most (including myself) users do is sometimes use it a little too much. There is really, no need to use it on many of the medium sized monsters or any of the small monsters but it's greatest use is dealing with annoying large creatures vulnerable to knockback and have two or more target points.

Anga Dugrega, without a doubt, levels up the slowest amongst the three Axe PAs just because of the long stretch to gather a string of hits together. Anga Jabroga, while it may have the longest wind up of any other PA before it's attack, it's actually really easy to get the feel for it's range, it's capabilities and it's raw power very early on but again, it's very party orientated in that you're either the one dealing ALL the damage with it and sending everything everywhere with it or you're the one who's being a stationary target trying to deal spiked damage while everyone else is dealing small but consistent damage all around you while you're constantly getting interrupted out of it.

Anga Redda levels very fast, with the PA storage system, you could easily get this and store it right away if you don't like it. Dus Daggas does about the equivalent damage faster to the same number of targets but it will never produce a single large number like Anga Redda can on it's final hit.

[MrNomad]

For Axes, Go with Anga Dugrega and Jabroga first, Redda later. Pre Aoti a lot of people would've just used redda simply cause it was big numbarz but even then it wasn't the best at that due to its slow speed, and still today it's too easy for mobs to just walk away from you or knock you out of your attack because its slow. Dugrega imo is the best pa to pick but its also the underrated one because of how it attacks and its damage, which to me seems dumb because even though Redda can do like 5k on its last hit, Dugrega can do 3k+ 2 times on its last hit so it can do more damage actually. Dugrega is blessed with being a faster pa with more mob control with the addition of big numbarz thanks to the JA system as well as being good on pp. Not only that, but it's one of the best pas to use against certain enemies (worms are no match to Dug, as are larger enemies.) The only downside to the pa is it lvls kinda slow, and against Bil de Vears its troublesome, but then again you shouldnt have only one pa for a weapon. So yeah, there's my advice, get Dugrega and Jabroga first and lvl them up http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[panzer_unit]

Anga Dugrega is one of the best PA's for meleeing stuff solo. What are the monsters going to do? Hit you? No. They're rolling all over the room and/or getting crushed by some leaping axe maniac.

For Fortefighter Jabroga's probably far more damaging than the other skills (8% per level growth from 31-40) but with my Protranser and everything capped at 30 the standard PA combos are about equally damaging compared to Jabroga unless it can land on all 5 targets.

Anga Redda is a skill you should really pick up once you've got some high-% 11* axe... oh look, here's a PA that lets you use it against regular enemies for ridiculous damage without getting all your teammates mad.

[Kira-TFF]

Ok heres a place for the ps2/ pc servers biggest axe whore to share some info...

Anga Redda - Levels up fastest of the 3, It's the fastest swinging of the 3 also. It's good for most enemys, but doesn't do damage as fast as the other 2. 2nd combo knocks enemys into air, and 3rd knocks the enemys backwards. Since the actual swings are quick, there isn't a whole lot of time for the enemy to counter-attack.
Anga Dugrega - Levels up slowest of the 3, It swings slightly slower then Anga Redda. It does damage the fastest against single enemys, and also adds knock back on 1st and 3rd combo. Since the swings are slower then Redda, the enemys have a little more time to counter attack.
Anga Jabroga - Costs 99 PA fragments. Levels up Faster then Dugrega, but slower then Redda. Does more damage then the other 2 if your attacking mobs. Against single targets your better off with one of the other 2, with the acception of bosses. It has a pretty high pp cost, and only has 1 combo. Also, when you attack there is a HUGE gap between the start of the attack and the point where the damage is done. If your surronded my enemys you have very little chance of actually getting to hit them.

My personal favorite is Dugrega, but if you don't want to spend 3 weeks getting it to lv21, I'd suggest Redda. I have gotten all 3 pa's to lv40, And axes are almost all I use. I hope I was able to help http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Catalystic]

On 2008-01-17 14:26, Crazy_Hunter wrote:

On 2008-01-17 13:45, Umberger wrote:
Anga Jabroga (99 PAFs) if you don't have Boma Duranga, both are fantastic boss killers. Jabroga has some insane ATP gains per level.

For an all purpose attack PA, I'd recommend Anga Redda. It levels up significantly faster than Anga Dugrega (the other shop PA), and of course it puts out the big numbarz everybody loves. =p

EDIT: And here is a testament to Jabroga's power (note it can hit a potential 5 targets 2x each). (http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/273/psu20080114181305001tq2.jpg) Picture courtesy of Crazy_Hunter.

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Here's a much better picture of the power of Jabroga .http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/812/psu20080117171145002mi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




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[Altaneen]

been using axes for ever and the way i see it is, redda= for two legged monsters pretty much anything that wont roll back after the 4th hit. dugrega= for four legged enemies that are crazy impossible to get with redda's 5th swing, also great for crowd control against spell spewers, oh and no clue what they're called but the sword armed chicken faces on neudaiz get destroyed by dugrega. jabroga= boss killer and multi-targeted enemies such as drua gora on moatoob.

[ne1first]

Jabroga is outstading.

The others are out...performed.



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[thunder-ray]

Id say get all 3 axe pas. All three of mine are maxed http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[-Ryuki-]

Dugrega's WAY too underrated compared to Redda. You'll hear a lot of complaints about how slow Dugrega is, but honestly, it's an awesome PA. Personally, and I do mean personally, I feel that Dugrega's better in a few ways than Redda.

Jabroga is a savage beast in the form of a catapult. Awesome for large monsters, and especially bosses. Can (and more than likely will) kill any/all small/medium monsters depending on what you're using, JA, and buffs.

[MrNomad]

Since when was Dugrega considered slow? The 1st hit alone should tell you otherwise, it's not only faster than the 1st combo in redda but it also knocks back to keep you from getting hit, unlike redda. I'd also argue that the dmg in dugrega is better than redda, but that's for another day http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Kietrinia]

I'd prefer a knock-down attack to a knock-back attack. Only thing better than helplessly knocked down enemies is helpless knocked down enemies in a large group. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Weeaboolits]

Get all of them.

[Kylie]

I prefer redda; the others are too situational (but still good).

[thunder-ray]

On 2008-02-29 07:01, MrNomad wrote:
Since when was Dugrega considered slow? The 1st hit alone should tell you otherwise, it's not only faster than the 1st combo in redda but it also knocks back to keep you from getting hit, unlike redda. I'd also argue that the dmg in dugrega is better than redda, but that's for another day http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Amen to that Nomad with my maxed out dugrega i tear the shit out monsters and kill them in secounds ^_^

[thunder-ray]

On 2008-02-29 07:01, MrNomad wrote:
Since when was Dugrega considered slow? The 1st hit alone should tell you otherwise, it's not only faster than the 1st combo in redda but it also knocks back to keep you from getting hit, unlike redda. I'd also argue that the dmg in dugrega is better than redda, but that's for another day http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Amen to that Nomad with my maxed out dugrega i tear the shit out monsters and kill them in secounds ^_^

[thunder-ray]

On 2008-02-29 07:01, MrNomad wrote:
Since when was Dugrega considered slow? The 1st hit alone should tell you otherwise, it's not only faster than the 1st combo in redda but it also knocks back to keep you from getting hit, unlike redda. I'd also argue that the dmg in dugrega is better than redda, but that's for another day http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Amen to that Nomad with my maxed out dugrega i tear the shit out monsters and kill them in secounds ^_^

[CelestialBlade]

On 2008-02-29 07:31, Kietrinia wrote:
I'd prefer a knock-down attack to a knock-back attack. Only thing better than helplessly knocked down enemies is helpless knocked down enemies in a large group. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif


You should see them offline Kit, the first AND third hit of the regular combo causes Knockdown, and they hit three targets at once. If you're a Hunter they're pretty much the best weapons in the game.

[Chuck_Norris]

On 2008-02-29 12:50, Typheros wrote:

You should see them offline Kit, the first AND third hit of the regular combo causes Knockdown,
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They already do that online.

[SATatami]

On 2008-02-29 12:53, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2008-02-29 12:50, Typheros wrote:

You should see them offline Kit, the first AND third hit of the regular combo causes Knockdown,


They already do that online.

[/quote]

But to 3 enemies? >_>

[Chuck_Norris]

On 2008-02-29 12:55, SATatami wrote:

On 2008-02-29 12:53, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2008-02-29 12:50, Typheros wrote:

You should see them offline Kit, the first AND third hit of the regular combo causes Knockdown,


They already do that online.



But to 3 enemies? >_>

[/quote]

No, but she was saying that they do those 2 things that she didn't think they did online. One of which they do already have.