majan
Jan 18, 2008, 02:01 AM
I cant provide a link, but back when the huge update for japan was announced which included the rod buff, wartecher S rank knux and twin claws, they also mentioned that kubara melee weapons now would not only no longer receive a 10% ATP penalty when using a photon art, but they would receive a bonus. we here in the states got every peice of that post-expansion patch,and it all received lots of attention except for this thing about kubara melee weapons. so I'm here on guardian colony right now comparing some twin sabers doing Unsafe Passage S.
we've got:
Death Dancer GRM product 22% light, 4/10
ATP 295
Deathdancec Kubara replica 22% light, 3/10
ATP 296
atp difference is pretty much negligible:these weapons are evenly matched.
this is being tested on a level 120 CAST fighgunner, 1315 base ATP, 1460 with solid/power S added. using splendor crush level 32 ATP modifier 167%. against bel pannons and sendillans level 55. Im using a megistaride as well. the damage seemed to be pretty much the same across all of hte monsters.
damage output differential was...
Death Dancer:370s-382 normal attack.
splendor crush level 32:
1st combo ~745-765
2nd combo ~780-795
3rd combo ~845-880
Deathdancec:360-383 normal attack.
splendor crush level 32:
1st combo ~725-755
2nd combo ~780-815
3rd combo ~845-895
interesting results. basically what we see is a bigger variance in the dancec's,but this also could just be due to that measly 1 ATP difference, which,when multiplied for the 22% light along with the 167% attack mod for the PA,can make a slightly noticable difference even if it just opens the damage variance just a smidge. Ive noticed this with other kubara weapons though, particularly psycho wand,where the variance is ~80-100 damage on most techs Ive used with it.
so maybe there is a slight bonus to kubara weapons now,but it seems there probably isnt,and if there is,its a very small one. this defintely proves that there is no more penalty using kubara weapons though,because I have used replicas in the past that were considerably stronger than a normal version of the weapon and it actually did considerably less damage using a PA, but more using regular attacks. those results defintley were differnt than the ones I got tonite.
so no more penalty,but that bonus they told us about either hasnt come yet(still),is bogus,or is so minute that it literally is not worth mentioning.
discuss. feel free to share experiments or experiences of your own.
we've got:
Death Dancer GRM product 22% light, 4/10
ATP 295
Deathdancec Kubara replica 22% light, 3/10
ATP 296
atp difference is pretty much negligible:these weapons are evenly matched.
this is being tested on a level 120 CAST fighgunner, 1315 base ATP, 1460 with solid/power S added. using splendor crush level 32 ATP modifier 167%. against bel pannons and sendillans level 55. Im using a megistaride as well. the damage seemed to be pretty much the same across all of hte monsters.
damage output differential was...
Death Dancer:370s-382 normal attack.
splendor crush level 32:
1st combo ~745-765
2nd combo ~780-795
3rd combo ~845-880
Deathdancec:360-383 normal attack.
splendor crush level 32:
1st combo ~725-755
2nd combo ~780-815
3rd combo ~845-895
interesting results. basically what we see is a bigger variance in the dancec's,but this also could just be due to that measly 1 ATP difference, which,when multiplied for the 22% light along with the 167% attack mod for the PA,can make a slightly noticable difference even if it just opens the damage variance just a smidge. Ive noticed this with other kubara weapons though, particularly psycho wand,where the variance is ~80-100 damage on most techs Ive used with it.
so maybe there is a slight bonus to kubara weapons now,but it seems there probably isnt,and if there is,its a very small one. this defintely proves that there is no more penalty using kubara weapons though,because I have used replicas in the past that were considerably stronger than a normal version of the weapon and it actually did considerably less damage using a PA, but more using regular attacks. those results defintley were differnt than the ones I got tonite.
so no more penalty,but that bonus they told us about either hasnt come yet(still),is bogus,or is so minute that it literally is not worth mentioning.
discuss. feel free to share experiments or experiences of your own.