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Telina
Jan 20, 2008, 08:08 PM
If at some point a server merge between PC/ps2 servers and the 360 servers, would the 360 community be ok with relinquishing the Chat system for a flawless merge to be possible?

Just wondering really, i would personally. I think i'd be better for the overall longevity of the game itself, but i'm just curious to see if others think the same way...

Chuck_Norris
Jan 20, 2008, 08:09 PM
On 2008-01-20 17:09, SATatami wrote:
I don't see why PS2 users can't have chat too. They can use USB mics.

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Fucking Fixed.




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SATatami
Jan 20, 2008, 08:09 PM
I don't see why PC users can't have chat too. Ventrillo, anyone?



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VanHalen
Jan 20, 2008, 08:10 PM
I can see this thread going in a direction that won't be good >_>

chaoskila
Jan 20, 2008, 08:11 PM
chatting is kinda stupid...
who wants to hear my 5 year old voice anyways haha
MERGE!

Retehi
Jan 20, 2008, 08:12 PM
You're high.

Miakyo
Jan 20, 2008, 08:14 PM
Eh, I'd be all for it. But this thread will sink into;

- Economy.
- Console wars.

Because were simple, delinquent minded folks, that follow similar patterns.

Yes; Stupid.

Retehi
Jan 20, 2008, 08:17 PM
Problem is, it's like asking Somalia to merge with Switzerland, or something to that extent.

Phetty
Jan 20, 2008, 08:18 PM
Sorry but Chat is what makes XBL so great. And it still wouldnt work.

Rayokarna
Jan 20, 2008, 08:20 PM
On 2008-01-20 17:10, VanHalen wrote:
I can see this thread going in a direction that won't be good >_>



This isn't the official boards -_-

Powder Keg
Jan 20, 2008, 08:22 PM
"NNNNEEEEWWWW! I DIH WENT PC PLEYERS ON MEYE SERVER BAWWWWWWW."

-Crokar-
Jan 20, 2008, 08:23 PM
i hate typing i dont want to spend time typing when i should be killing. so no. server merge bad idea.

February
Jan 20, 2008, 08:26 PM
If they ever did it, they should just add "Voice Chat on or off" as an option. If it's on, PS2 users can't join. If it's off, anyone can. Pretty simple solution.

Rayokarna
Jan 20, 2008, 08:29 PM
On 2008-01-20 17:26, February wrote:
If they ever did it, they should just add "Voice Chat on or off" as an option. If it's on, PS2 users can't join. If it's off, anyone can. Pretty simple solution.



PS2 players can have access to USB headests.

Mystil
Jan 20, 2008, 08:31 PM
On 2008-01-20 17:20, Rayokarna wrote:

On 2008-01-20 17:10, VanHalen wrote:
I can see this thread going in a direction that won't be good >_>



This isn't the official boards -_-


I'm still going have "In before lock" on standby just incase. =P

Telina
Jan 20, 2008, 08:31 PM
Yea, i can see this breaking out in a console war, but i think we're all mature enough to avoid that....

what the hell was i thinking...maturity on the internet? major lulz there...

superdood22
Jan 20, 2008, 08:39 PM
wow a console war? lol.

anywho, I would love to use a usb mic and voice chat with xboxer people, however I have played on xbox before and beleive me when I say this, it is NOT like pc/ps2. you CANNOT join a random party, they will curse you out and you get the boot for no apparent reason whatsoever, or most players do that etleast.

Its not that im saying 360 would corrupt our community, but its already bad as is, we dont need it.

I asked a GM and he said that would NEVER happen. Thats just dumb/bad business on ST's side.



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steely
Jan 20, 2008, 08:39 PM
xbox owns pc&ps2!!!!! lol http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Sinue_v2
Jan 20, 2008, 08:42 PM
They wouldn't have to give up Mics. It's not like they stripped typed text out of the 360 version. Communicating with a PS2/PC user would be the same as communicating with someone who has a broken mic. On the PS2/PC side, they could apply a patch which allowed voice output through the speakers.

chaoskila
Jan 20, 2008, 08:45 PM
why dont they just make that if your on pc%ps2 u hear the xbox players?
you just cant talk back

Telina
Jan 20, 2008, 08:45 PM
On 2008-01-20 17:39, steely wrote:
xbox owns pc&ps2!!!!! lol http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



this is usually how flaming gets started, one guy thinks he's funny and throws something like this out there and another takes it too seriously.

Please be considerate

AlphaDragoon
Jan 20, 2008, 09:10 PM
I'd be all for a merge, personally. It would make the game's community united and give Sega more incentive to actually care about us US/EU players.

Jao
Jan 20, 2008, 09:10 PM
lol psp can join in with tha merge=)

Midicronica
Jan 20, 2008, 09:16 PM
No.

Rasputin
Jan 20, 2008, 09:16 PM
I would die to have access to the player shops of the 360 servers. I'm all for a merge.

Chuck_Norris
Jan 20, 2008, 09:18 PM
On 2008-01-20 18:16, Midicronica wrote:
Yes.

Powder Keg
Jan 20, 2008, 09:19 PM
On 2008-01-20 18:10, AlphaDragoon wrote:
I'd be all for a merge, personally. It would make the game's community united and give Sega more incentive to actually care about us US/EU players.


Then we could become the Grand Coalition. PSP, PC/PS2, and Xbox. Great Britan Australia and United States.

Poland = ???

djmacken
Jan 20, 2008, 10:02 PM
On 2008-01-20 17:39, superdood22 wrote:
wow a console war? lol.

anywho, I would love to use a usb mic and voice chat with xboxer people, however I have played on xbox before and beleive me when I say this, it is NOT like pc/ps2. you CANNOT join a random party, they will curse you out and you get the boot for no apparent reason whatsoever, or most players do that etleast.

Its not that im saying 360 would corrupt our community, but its already bad as is, we dont need it.

I asked a GM and he said that would NEVER happen. Thats just dumb/bad business on ST's side.



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Thats funny that you say that because I have very few problems with random parties. Sounds like an extreme generalization of the xbox gaming community.

Sekani
Jan 20, 2008, 10:57 PM
Giving up voice chat is not an option; I'd quit the game first.

Also I hate everyone that plays on PC/PS2, except for the people I don't hate.

Mystil
Jan 20, 2008, 11:42 PM
Ah Sekani, you'd fit right in man. That's all we have is a bunch of buttholes running around. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Just kidding.

SATatami
Jan 21, 2008, 01:11 AM
Merging with 360'd be funny at least, with telling stupid people to say phrases that'd dc them and all http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Freshellent
Jan 21, 2008, 01:32 AM
On 2008-01-20 17:17, Retehi wrote:
Problem is, it's like asking Somalia to merge with Switzerland, or something to that extent.



Honestly,I shouldn't have laughed as much as I did when I read this.

Snitch
Jan 21, 2008, 02:00 AM
Im happy as it is.. but it is dooable.. uhm ffxi has multi platform multi region support.. Only advantage I could get from this "merge" is the oppertunety to play on my lapptopp while at work (im on 360) And if I started playing on work I would get in trouble.. so no thanks.. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

beatrixkiddo
Jan 21, 2008, 03:03 AM
in before someone mentions haxeta


Phew, I made it here in time.

EngelBlut
Jan 21, 2008, 03:13 AM
no merge i would start the concole war with in 3 minutes.. i just hate ps2 that much

landman
Jan 21, 2008, 03:18 AM
I don't understand 90% of the English speakers in Xbox Live, so no big deal xd

The only problem about merging, in my opinion, is that I don't want a haker stealing in my room >.>

SATatami
Jan 21, 2008, 03:20 AM
PC user: Say lemonade!
XBOX user: Lemonade!
*XBOX USER WAS BANNED FOR TALKING ABOUT CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES*

AlphaMinotaux
Jan 21, 2008, 04:51 AM
Voice chat in PSU is an xbox live feature. Well I'm under the assumption that it is.

Turbobrain
Jan 21, 2008, 05:00 AM
Not even bothered to read the bulk but no doubt the fact that PC has had facilities for in game chat for ages(Ventrillo, Crossfire, ermmm to name a few:)).... makes me wonder how usefull most people find it.

When I was XBox PSO, it was, semi-usefull I guess... a good way of passing those back to back TTF's without having to type but people still used bubble chat... speaking of I wish they'd bring THAT back, they wont for the very reason I wish they would though:).

Anyway, a merge with PC/PS2 will never, ever times infinitty happen. If it just PC then maybe. I am neutral on this and the whole console wars thing but I could see if there was a merge there would be like '360/PC only partys' and that sort of thing. Too much trouble.

Now merge the Japanese PC/PS2 and NA/EU PC/PS2 and NOW your talking.... but again wont happen.

Leahcim
Jan 21, 2008, 05:10 AM
Wouldn't mind it but it's not going to ever happen.

mvffin
Jan 21, 2008, 05:11 AM
if they merged the Ps2/PC servers with JP, I may switch platforms agian. lol

Iduno
Jan 21, 2008, 06:27 AM
no way I don't want to get hacked

Jasam
Jan 21, 2008, 06:44 AM
I'd like to see a merge, especaly if it had voice chat on both.

But that would probably require MIROSOFT to provide a box->PC live chat support thing.

And thats not going to happon.

amtalx
Jan 21, 2008, 08:05 AM
Hey guys? ST can barely give us updates without screwing something up or having to institute a rollback. Do you really think they would be able to this off?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

PALRAPPYS
Jan 21, 2008, 09:51 AM
On 2008-01-21 05:05, amtalx wrote:
Hey guys? ST can barely give us updates without screwing something up or having to institute a rollback. Do you really think they would be able to this off?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.



If Sega can't get the JP servers to have their worlds merged they're not going to get our servers merged. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

BloodDragoon
Jan 21, 2008, 10:11 AM
Dunno, for the most part I find voice chat annoying in PSU since most of the time its either kids trying to talk like rappers or the idiots that think its absolutely needed so they can try and tell everyone what to do in a mission even though everyone else knows exactly what they're doing and probably knows more about the game. If I have something to say in game I'll say it and you can read it on my chat bubble.

Lykos
Jan 21, 2008, 10:33 AM
More players would be nice, but 3/4 of a server's increase is in no way EVER going to be worth giving up voice chat.

And yes, anyone and everyone who plays 360 is an ignorant close-minded selfish jerk who will spew profanities at you like a feces cannon. (Haha, I said 'feces cannon'.)

superdood22
Jan 21, 2008, 10:45 AM
On 2008-01-20 19:02, djmacken wrote:

On 2008-01-20 17:39, superdood22 wrote:
wow a console war? lol.

anywho, I would love to use a usb mic and voice chat with xboxer people, however I have played on xbox before and beleive me when I say this, it is NOT like pc/ps2. you CANNOT join a random party, they will curse you out and you get the boot for no apparent reason whatsoever, or most players do that etleast.

Its not that im saying 360 would corrupt our community, but its already bad as is, we dont need it.

I asked a GM and he said that would NEVER happen. Thats just dumb/bad business on ST's side.



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Thats funny that you say that because I have very few problems with random parties. Sounds like an extreme generalization of the xbox gaming community.

Call it how you feel, but im only speculating off of my personal expiriences. 360 community is state of the fart and just simple. I give the 360 community a 1 out of 10.

amtalx
Jan 21, 2008, 10:55 AM
Blech...

Every gaming community has assholes (or any community for that matter). Let's leave it at that.

chibiLegolas
Jan 21, 2008, 01:10 PM
On 2008-01-20 17:29, Rayokarna wrote:

On 2008-01-20 17:26, February wrote:
If they ever did it, they should just add "Voice Chat on or off" as an option. If it's on, PS2 users can't join. If it's off, anyone can. Pretty simple solution.



PS2 players can have access to USB headests.



Yea, I still have my unused one cause I had this CRAZY idea that my PS2 mic would work for PSU.
>_>

Well, now that I have my mic on 360, I just CAN'T give it up. But having a mic should just be an added option. And not a reason to be incapatable with non mic users to just play together.

I'm all for merging all the servers (despite the haxeta). But lets face it, PSO had it's fair share of hacks and glitches as well. And we STILL played the game.
Legit players will bann together and hang out at a specific server once again. And the game continues on...

chu-chu-chu
Jan 21, 2008, 01:43 PM
This is just like in lif when you date an ugly girl and someone else who is better looking has a better girl and they let you have fun with hur cause its only fair even tho you made your own desision and they other girl doesn't even like you and you call the guy a jerk becauwse his girl is prettier and can do more (LOL!)

amirite?

majan
Jan 21, 2008, 01:49 PM
On 2008-01-21 05:05, amtalx wrote:
Hey guys? ST can barely give us updates without screwing something up or having to institute a rollback. Do you really think they would be able to this off?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.



yes! yes!!!!!

Sychosis
Jan 21, 2008, 01:51 PM
Give it up?

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Hells no.

Kylie
Jan 21, 2008, 02:28 PM
Not to be rude or anything, but I'm happy with a smaller server. I hear from friends and such on 360 that there are a lot of kids on 360. So as cool as a large population would be, I'll pass.

JAFO22000
Jan 21, 2008, 03:08 PM
On 2008-01-21 10:43, chu-chu-chu wrote:
This is just like in lif when you date an ugly girl and someone else who is better looking has a better girl and they let you have fun with hur cause its only fair even tho you made your own desision and they other girl doesn't even like you and you call the guy a jerk becauwse his girl is prettier and can do more (LOL!)

amirite?



YEah this one time my PSU girlfriend left me after I had let her use (borrow, not HAVE lol!) my Psycho wand and blackbull ground 5/9 and my Ank Dedda (BEFORE the event when it was still RARE! lol!) and she left and didn't talk to me anymore and she had those weapons and I was sad for a couple days then I got back to playning and I have another girlfriend (on PSU of course!) and she doesn't want my stuff so it's good.

The2dCour
Jan 21, 2008, 03:25 PM
I can see it now...
Voice chat on merged servers:
Xbox guy: Dude, do you like to snowboard?
PC guy: I just installed some low latency RAM in my box.

Bliven
Jan 21, 2008, 04:52 PM
NO. I do not want all the hackers on my server. I don't really care too much about haxeta, but I'd rather not have my room randomly hacked etc.

Bolvyn
Jan 21, 2008, 04:59 PM
No I do not what to merge with PC and PS2. the 360 is not hacked I like it that way. I don't what hacker coming on are game. It will not work for me. 360 is the only game for PSU that is not hacked. I would like to keep it that way. That sets up apart from all the rest.

Telina
Jan 21, 2008, 05:03 PM
On 2008-01-21 13:59, Bolvyn wrote:
360 is the only game for PSU that is not hacked.



lol
can you give me some trouble i'm having some help here...

And i don't know about you, but there was the incident of the billion S+10 grinders and the continuous duplication of them not a week ago.

I swear, your all so afraid of getting hacked in a video game lighten up. Do you not go out of your home because your afraid of getting mugged too?

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SATatami
Jan 21, 2008, 05:07 PM
Lol. If you think 360's gaming community is bad, try going to play some free MMO like maple story. Ahahaha... Now THAT is horrid. I'd take 360 over something like that anyday. >_>

Legendria
Jan 21, 2008, 05:14 PM
It will never happen.

Not only would it require a major patch (Which has to go through the stringent Microsoft screening process), many of the integrated Gamercard features would have to be removed, and that would also remove the whole Live integration......which is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. Sega/Microsoft would never go for it.

Also, the PC/PS2 economy is permanently damaged beyond repair. Why should teh 360 have to deal with balancing that out?

Bolvyn
Jan 21, 2008, 05:22 PM
I don't see why you what the PC and the PS3 join with the 360. I don't what to play a game that people hack every day on. I will be point less to play. whay can't you jest leave an good game alone. I like the 360 so you don't have to deal with every one haveing 99milling measea and haveing all the S ranks in the game. It jest takes the fun out of playing a game. There will be no point of playing PSU any more. That is whay I like to play the 360 it sets us apart form all the cheaters on the game. O I like to talk not typ. It makes the game fun. So keep the PC and the PS3 by them self and leave the 360 alone.

Legendria
Jan 21, 2008, 05:22 PM
On 2008-01-21 14:22, Bolvyn wrote:
I don't see why you what the PC and the PS3 join with the 360. I don't what to play a game that people hack every day on. I will be point less to play. whay can't you jest leave an good game alone. I like the 360 so you don't have to deal with every one haveing 99milling measea and haveing all the S ranks in the game. It jest takes the fun out of playing a game. There will be no point of playing PSU any more. That is whay I like to play the 360 it sets us apart form all the cheaters on the game. O I like to talk not typ. It makes the game fun. So keep the PC and the PS3 by them self and leave the 360 alone.



I lol'd so hard.

Sorry.

VanHalen
Jan 21, 2008, 05:23 PM
On 2008-01-21 13:59, Bolvyn wrote:
No I do not what to merge with PC and PS2. the 360 is not hacked I like it that way. I don't what hacker coming on are game. It will not work for me. 360 is the only game for PSU that is not hacked. I would like to keep it that way. That sets up apart from all the rest.



Aww come on G don't be like that http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

What isn't there to love about a man floating in a dress?

Bolvyn
Jan 21, 2008, 05:29 PM
It is not my falut that you can't play a game leget.

Think about it wy play a game when the poin of play it to lv up and find rares and that is it. What fun is it whan you have every thing in the game hack. What is there to do. You can go try to find more rares but you have every thing know. what is the poin of play the game then. You can't Batle each other you can't realy do any thing but sit on your ass and look at your rares and your messta and do nothing. what is the poin in that?
O I like to talk while playing not typ.



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McLaughlin
Jan 21, 2008, 05:57 PM
On 2008-01-21 14:03, Telina wrote:

On 2008-01-21 13:59, Bolvyn wrote:
360 is the only game for PSU that is not hacked.



lol
can you give me some trouble i'm having some help here...

And i don't know about you, but there was the incident of the billion S+10 grinders and the continuous duplication of them not a week ago.

I swear, your all so afraid of getting hacked in a video game lighten up. Do you not go out of your home because your afraid of getting mugged too?

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Telina on 2008-01-21 14:11 ]</font>


True enough. The S+10 thing happened in December, and someone necro-posted in the thread. Those users have also been banned from PSU.

I find it amusing all the PC/PS2 players are all for this, while the 360 players are all against it. PC/PS2 players have everything to gain, and 360 users have everything to lose.

The mugging thing was completely off tangent. There's a very low likelihood of being mugged where I live, whereas the likelihood of a hacker rearing his ugly head is far higher.

And if I did what Chuck_Norris did on that first page, I'd be banned.

Sekani
Jan 21, 2008, 09:54 PM
LOL, this thread isn't locked yet?

Laranas
Jan 21, 2008, 10:31 PM
I love how exaggerated the PC/PS2 hacking is in the eyes of 360 players. So, a year ago haxeta emerges and tons of people get banned. Since then maybe... 4 people total have hacked the game and have done no harm to the community, aside from the 1 hacker who stole 11* items from stores.

While 99% of the PC/PS2 community is playing legit and the effects of haxeta has died down, the 360 users come up with grinder dupes and mechgun glitches, yet still look down on the PC/PS2 users as if we'd ruin utopia.

I find it all hilarious.

*Note: I'm sure some people mechgun glitch on the PC/PS2 as well, but the only known methods I've heard of it require the 360 gamepad...

HyperShot-X-
Jan 21, 2008, 10:38 PM
my observation of this poll at a glance...:
Nah, i'm happy as is: *********************** 60.00% - Xbox users(includes me as well)
Yea, i'd give up chat for a server marge: ******** 22.00% - PC users(u just wish..)
I want Chat and a merge. Make it work Sega: ****** 18.00% - PS2 users(dunno wtH they're talkin bout...tsk)

SATatami
Jan 21, 2008, 10:39 PM
On 2008-01-21 14:22, Bolvyn wrote:
I don't see why you what the PC and the PS3 join with the 360. I don't what to play a game that people hack every day on. I will be point less to play. whay can't you jest leave an good game alone. I like the 360 so you don't have to deal with every one haveing 99milling measea and haveing all the S ranks in the game. It jest takes the fun out of playing a game. There will be no point of playing PSU any more. That is whay I like to play the 360 it sets us apart form all the cheaters on the game. O I like to talk not typ. It makes the game fun. So keep the PC and the PS3 by them self and leave the 360 alone.



Man. No offense, I laugh so hard at this post, and the completely biased and uninformed manner of which it's made. How about you try playing on it first? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif You'll find that we're much less hacked than xbox is, actually, and without all the random asshats that yell at you "for being a gimp" when you play a cast FT. I've played both and yeah. I don't know where this post is going. Im exhauuusted. Gonna go to sleep. Goodnight! Get a better informant though dude, the PC/PS2 servers aren't nearly as hacked as you seem to think they are.

Retehi
Jan 21, 2008, 10:53 PM
On 2008-01-21 14:29, Bolvyn wrote:

O I like to talk while playing not typ.



It shows.

Skuda
Jan 21, 2008, 11:05 PM
I think it's about time to put this puppy to bed. ;]