Social Tip of The Day 6

[KouHotaru]

Please refrain from making lewd symbols, espicaly ones of the animated sort. Not only is Sega looking to ban you for such now, it is morally corrupt. Now of course those who are guilty shall raise a defiant 'STFU bich!!!! ROFTL!' at this advice, yet they should keep in mind the following:

If you have the urge to make such you are most likely (based on statistics of those who do such things) under the age of consent in your state. This is some naughty stuff you should not be doing, little man.

It shows a extreme sense of sexual depravity, and only makes you look like even more of a virginal loser you silly kid.

Erotica may be considered a primal, and at times a pleasing artform, but stick figures shagging each other, a scene depicting masturbation, or the oodles of simplified naked female figures out there is just crude and pathetic.

In conclusion. It's been done, it shows what a complete and total dork you are, and there is no justification for it, even if you cite Keith Herring as your inspiration. At least his stick figures had positive messages!

[Guntz348]

Would you consider a stick figure sitting on a toilet lewd?

[KouHotaru]

No, but only if it's a part of a symbol conveying that you are going to go off and take a restroom break. Otherwise it's kinda pointless and silly to have one.

[Eildath]

I quite agree with KouHotaru.

There's no real point in putting in pointlessly lewd and off-color comments, as all it does is get a cheap laugh once, and then annoy from that point forward.


I swear to Falz, the next time I see that stupid farting animation, or any iteration thereof, I am going to scream.

[CajunSamurai]

I don't mind the occasional lewd symbol chat usually, animated or otherwise, but JEEZ, we don't need to see it every 5 friggin' seconds, kid. Just recently, some dufus in Anteres 8 was using a VERY crude and poorly constructed animation consisting of... probably 3 frames and the same "WHOA!" sound effect. After at least two minutes of this lamerism, I think I insulted the tard using presets or something.

[Ness]

The only reson you are offended by erotica and lewd symbols is because you're a feminist. They don't bother me that much, but they do get old after awhile. I wouldn't say that they offended me though.


"Edited because some people here were getting their feelings hurt.


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[rena-ko]

hm ok, ness,
if she would be male, and still be offended by this, your world would be turned upside town, right?

[Ness]

On 2003-01-14 03:20, rena-ko wrote:
hm ok, ness,
if she would be male, and still be offended by this, your world would be turned upside town, right?



Oh course not! In know males that are offended by erotica, but it's usually a female that ends up complaining about it.

[Lightfeather]

Oh course not! In know males that are offended by erotica, but it's usually a female that ends up complaining about it.


This is because men have trouble communicating. If something bothers them they usually try to smash it with a hammer rather then complain. =P



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[Spy]

Women can be making lewd symbols too, and to say that men can only communicate by smashing with a hammer is insanly sexist; although I have been known to literally pound away at my keyboard.

These social tips or whatever are getting old and pointless, and I only reply because they are basically freeposts.



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[Tavia]

On 2003-01-14 00:42, KouHotaru wrote:
Please refrain from making lewd symbols, espicaly ones of the animated sort. Not only is Sega looking to ban you for such now, it is morally corrupt.

I personally think that kind of stuff is hilarious, if done well. Of course, when someone repeats it over and over again, it gets annoying, but I've already had my chuckle at it. I also love potty humor, though -- also had a bumper sticker on my car that said "Jesus Saves by Shopping Wisely and Using Double Coupons", which is now being replaced with one that says "Darwin Loves You" -- so that's my bag.

It doesn't offend me at all. Sometimes it makes me laugh. If someone's animated sequence of presets is just pathetic and not at all funny, I just don't pay attention to it.

[Vampir]

Wow this hasa turn into a moral and ethical board...cool. At least I know some people have IQs higher than the Def on their Mag http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Any chat symbol can be annoying after awhile. Especially if every one is doing it all the time. Lewd and perverted symbols are unnecessary. IF the ST bans them it would be kewl to me.

[ReikenFeralsbane]

i love symbol chats as long as they arent spammed for minutes on end. Me and my friends make stupid symbols all the time for laughs, and everyone has a laugh when we use them (not to the point where people want to shove our testicles up into our stomach) but some people do over use lame symbols and it gets rather obnoxious.

Other than that i think some peoples sence of humor could increase a few notches.

[dude3282]

There's a difference between something humorous and something lewd. Keep the masturbation out of the symbol chat. If you feel the need to do the fart thing, use it sparingly.
My $.02

[Noco-Esmaj]

So is this a bad thing???



http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/whip.gif

j/k
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Kune






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[Tavia]

On 2003-01-14 07:41, dude3282 wrote:
Keep the masturbation out of the symbol chat.

Or if you must use it, don't forget to compliment it with something along the lines of, "That's my life story. I'm blind now." http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Raist]

On 2003-01-14 08:49, Tavia wrote:

On 2003-01-14 07:41, dude3282 wrote:
Keep the masturbation out of the symbol chat.

Or if you must use it, don't forget to compliment it with something along the lines of, "That's my life story. I'm blind now." http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

It's common knowledge that every time you masturbate god kills a kitten, so just think about that next time everybody ^_^

[Asuka7]

They pay for HL and they got the game so let them do what they want. if you dont like it dont play it online or jus dont hang out on a popular lob...i hate when ppl get power trips....i dont like the little perverted things myself but it doesnt bother me that much..

[Spy]

On 2003-01-14 08:52, Raist wrote:

It's common knowledge that every time you masturbate god kills a kitten, so just think about that next time everybody ^_^



Bob Barker says to help control the pet population: masturbate!

[KouHotaru]

Once again people fail to see that this is for entertainment purposes and whine that I'm above myself and boring. Thanks to everyone who sees the fun in expressing their opinions on my subjects proper though. Game on.

[Wewt]

KouHotaru
Vicious Female

Gotta love the title.

FEMINISM ALL THE WAY!!!!!11111

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

By the way, could anybody verify for me whether or not you can be banned for making lewd symbols?

According to KouHotaru, you can be banned for doing such things. I find this extremely funny.

[Phobos-X]

On 2003-01-14 10:21, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:

By the way, could anybody verify for me whether or not you can be banned for making lewd symbols?

According to KouHotaru, you can be banned for doing such things. I find this extremely funny.



They mention banning ppl for that shit in either the instruction manual or the user agreement

[Lightfeather]

On 2003-01-14 03:51, Spy wrote:
Women can be making lewd symbols too, and to say that men can only communicate by smashing with a hammer is insanly sexist;


Yes. It was. And it was in response to another sexist remark aimed at females that insinuated that girls complain more than boys:


On 2003-01-14 03:27, Ness wrote:
Oh course not! In know males that are offended by erotica, but it's usually a female that ends up complaining about it.


I was just shooting back ^.^ *hehe*

[Ian D]

I haven't heard of anyone getting banned for anything yet, I think ST just says it to scare players.

[Wewt]

On 2003-01-14 10:45, Phobos-X wrote:

They mention banning ppl for that shit in either the instruction manual or the user agreement


That's not too helpful, you might as well go ahead and tell me to ask a Sega representative, which is nearly impossible to get any facts from. Saying which section of the user agreement would be more helpful.

[Mute]

I have to whole-heartily agree with KouHotaru. There is a time and place for such material/action and PSO is definately not it. Whatever you do in your personal time... fine. If you have a group that accepts this behavior, then fine, go off and do it amongst yourselves. The least you could do is respect others while playing. And before you go off saying "OMG d00d I pay for a HL I can do whatvr I want!!11," just recognize the fact that there are others that pay just like you, and some do not appreciate this immaturity. I don't expect a good amount of you will totally understand what KouHotaru is getting at in these recurring topics. However, put away your pride for once and refrain from the ignorant statements. Two seemed to be quite disturbing to me. And, I am myself a male:


Ness wrote:
The only reson you are offended by erotica and lewd symbols is because you're a girl. They don't bother me that much, but they do get old after awhile. I wouldn't say that they offended me though.


Oh course not! In know males that are offended by erotica, but it's usually a female that ends up complaining about it.


Completely sexist and irrelevant. Sorry if this steams any of you or comes across as a flame. Just trying to walk the side of *gasps* morals!




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[LamerPanda]

http://sega.com/community/profiles/pso_gcn/pc_front/gcn_pc_terms.jhtml

Scroll to 4b, number 1.

"(b) Conduct

You agree to abide by the following standards set forth in this Agreement, the EULA, and the Rules of Conduct. Without limiting the foregoing, You agree that You will not use the Sega.com website(s), Phantasy Star Online, the Official PSO Website, or the PSO Server to:

(1) post, transmit, or cause to be posted or transmitted, any inappropriate Content, which includes Content that (i) violates any third party's intellectual property or other rights, (ii) is unlawful, threatening, harassing, libelous, privacy invading, vulgar, harmful, pornographic, indecent, obscene, hateful, or otherwise objectionable, or (iii) contains software viruses;"

A little bit after that:

"SEGA may take action against You and/or Your Account if You fail to abide by the foregoing or any other rules and standards of conduct set forth in this Agreement, the EULA, or the Rules of Conduct. Such action may include without limitation the issuance of a warning about a violation, the suspension or termination of Your Account and/or legal action against You. You understand that SEGA is not required to provide You with notice prior to suspending or terminating Your Account for violating any of these rules and standards."

So yes, Sonic Team could take action against you.

[Wewt]

On 2003-01-14 11:46, LamerPanda wrote:
http://sega.com/community/profiles/pso_gcn/pc_front/gcn_pc_terms.jhtml

Scroll to 4b, number 1.

"(b) Conduct

You agree to abide by the following standards set forth in this Agreement, the EULA, and the Rules of Conduct. Without limiting the foregoing, You agree that You will not use the Sega.com website(s), Phantasy Star Online, the Official PSO Website, or the PSO Server to:

(1) post, transmit, or cause to be posted or transmitted, any inappropriate Content, which includes Content that (i) violates any third party's intellectual property or other rights, (ii) is unlawful, threatening, harassing, libelous, privacy invading, vulgar, harmful, pornographic, indecent, obscene, hateful, or otherwise objectionable, or (iii) contains software viruses;"

A little bit after that:

"SEGA may take action against You and/or Your Account if You fail to abide by the foregoing or any other rules and standards of conduct set forth in this Agreement, the EULA, or the Rules of Conduct. Such action may include without limitation the issuance of a warning about a violation, the suspension or termination of Your Account and/or legal action against You. You understand that SEGA is not required to provide You with notice prior to suspending or terminating Your Account for violating any of these rules and standards."

So yes, Sonic Team could take action against you.


Impressive. I never expected to be proven wrong here. I won't question whether or not Sonic Team have the power to take action against you if you do such things. Frankly, I knew they have the power to take action, but I just wanted to see this in writing. However, I will question Sonic Team's determination to enforce their rules. Sonic Team's rules have been broken so many times in the past, and they are still being broken, that the majority of PSO's players do not even care about the rules anymore. Others, like myself, don't even bother reading the rules.

On another note, aren't certain game character names copyrighted? If so, wouldn't a name like Sephiroth(please let it be against the rules) be against the rules?

[Blue147]

This is because men have trouble communicating. If something bothers them they usually try to smash it with a hammer rather then complain. =P

That was uncalled for.Grrr me smash mean person with hammer.lol

[Tavia]

On 2003-01-14 12:19, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:
On another note, aren't certain game character names copyrighted? If so, wouldn't a name like Sephiroth(please let it be against the rules) be against the rules?

No, you cannot slap a copyright on a name. You can make it a trademark, and if Square did so, it would prevent other companies from making RPG supervillains named "Sephiroth".

It would not, however, prevent you from naming your child Sephiroth, keep an automobile manufacturer from making a car called the Sephiroth, or, keep someone from naming their PSO character Sephiroth. It would just mean that the exact type of item which has been trademarked -- in this case, an RPG character -- cannot be made with the same name in a product that will be marketed and sold.

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[Sedric]

On 2003-01-14 20:34, Tavia wrote:
It would not, however, prevent you from naming your child Sephiroth, keep an automobile manufacturer from making a car called the Sephiroth, or, keep someone from naming their PSO character Sephiroth. It would just mean that the exact type of item which has been trademarked -- in this case, an RPG character -- cannot be made with the same name in a product that will be marketed and sold.



I think it could also mean "free advertisement" for Square. I mean, wouldn't people who doesn't know about Sephiroth (and FF7 for that matter) become interested about him if they constantly see others "using" that name?

Well, that's what I *think* anyway....

[Subliminalgroove]

On 2003-01-14 03:16, Ness wrote:
The only reson you are offended by erotica and lewd symbols is because you're a girl.



WOAH! Okay... restrain yourself... breathe breathe.... Oh, to hell with it!

Where do you get off saying such a thing, Ness? Just because I am a woman I can't laugh at something lewd, or enjoy something erotic?!? From that sentence you seem to think that all the women in the world are just like Mrs. Brady. My god! That is probobly the most ignorant thing I have heard in a while.
Its a good bet that if something you are doing something that bothers a woman, its going to bother a man as well. When it comes down to it some things are offensive to everyone.

[Eden]

/me wishes there was an anti sephiroth rule

[Spy]

On 2003-01-14 22:35, Eden wrote:
/me wishes there was an anti sephiroth[...]



I'm really Anti-Sephiroth. Really. I am.

[Ness]

Ness wrote:
The only reson you are offended by erotica and lewd symbols is because you're a girl. They don't bother me that much, but they do get old after awhile. I wouldn't say that they offended me though.


Oh course not! In know males that are offended by erotica, but it's usually a female that ends up complaining about it.

Some of the females here have considered the comments I wrote earliers sexist. Alriught then how is is sexist and how is it not true.

How many men have you heard whine about erotica? 1? 2? 0?

Now how many women have you heard whine about erotica? Well one for sure because you read this thread, and probably any feminist you talk to will say "It exploits women for sexual reasons and should be banned"

When ever something relating to sexuality comes up it's always the women feminist that complain about it saying it is offensive and stuff, but if you were go to their favorites list on their computer you would probably find male porn sites. This is another example of a feminist double standard.

In short, no I'm not sexist, I believe women should have as many rights as men. But to say that women complain about erotica less than men is a lie. Especially when they love it too (well many of them do).

[Ness]

On 2003-01-14 21:06, Subliminalgroove wrote:

On 2003-01-14 03:16, Ness wrote:
The only reson you are offended by erotica and lewd symbols is because you're a girl.



WOAH! Okay... restrain yourself... breathe breathe.... Oh, to hell with it!

Where do you get off saying such a thing, Ness? Just because I am a woman I can't laugh at something lewd, or enjoy something erotic?!? From that sentence you seem to think that all the women in the world are just like Mrs. Brady. My god! That is probobly the most ignorant thing I have heard in a while.
Its a good bet that if something you are doing something that bothers a woman, its going to bother a man as well. When it comes down to it some things are offensive to everyone.




You misinterpreted thwhat I said there. What I was getting to is that women are typically offended by erotica and are the ones to complain about it 95% of the time. I should have said "Because you're a feminist".

[CorneliusPower]

Has PSOW turn into a Politically Correct society or what? Les do each other a favor and respect each other play the game and do our very best to turn down or sell dupes at 10 Meseta. Peace.

[LamerPanda]

Oh, yes, every feminist loves male porn. XD;

Seriously, this argument's sort of pointless. You can't make a broad generalization about a whole gender. I have friends that are men that are offended by erotica because it treats women as objects.

Look, I don't care for lewdness in PSO. Other times I might enjoy it, but when I'm trying to fight off a mob of Hildebears, I don't need to have someone flashing cheap pixel pr0n.

[Ruby-chan]

On 2003-01-15 04:02, Ness wrote:
How many men have you heard whine about erotica? 1? 2? 0?


You haven't the sligest idea. They're all happy as long as everything's focused on their fantasys, but put something contrary to that up and yeow, the screaming starts! I remember an incident on a usenet group that only described (no pictures now.) the sex change process and it had all the guys on the group screaming from post upon post.

[Wewt]

On 2003-01-15 05:43, LamerPanda wrote:
Look, I don't care for lewdness in PSO. Other times I might enjoy it, but when I'm trying to fight off a mob of Hildebears, I don't need to have someone flashing cheap pixel pr0n.


How about a picture of an over-grown beast attacking a human, to give you the extra fire in yourself to smash that hildebear?

[Ness]

On 2003-01-15 07:12, Ruby-chan wrote:

On 2003-01-15 04:02, Ness wrote:
How many men have you heard whine about erotica? 1? 2? 0?


You haven't the sligest idea. They're all happy as long as everything's focused on their fantasys, but put something contrary to that up and yeow, the screaming starts! I remember an incident on a usenet group that only described (no pictures now.) the sex change process and it had all the guys on the group screaming from post upon post.



Sex changing is not considered erotica so your argument in no way pertains to this subject. Sex changes are considered a surgical procedure and is not related or considered as erotica by most people.

[rena-ko]

well, ok
maybe ness didnt meant it the way it sounded, but it sounded very offensive.

and about 'porn'-pics and stupid animations in lobbies. a obviously male stick figure penetrating something thats supposed to be a sheep is not porn for me, its disgusting.

[Wewt]

On 2003-01-16 04:01, rena-ko wrote:
a obviously male stick figure penetrating something thats supposed to be a sheep is not porn for me, its disgusting.


You'd be surprised at how many people find this sexually stimulating, or humourous.

[rena-ko]

ah, ok...
must be my fault then ^_^;;;

[CajunSamurai]

male stick figure penetrating something thats supposed to be a sheep http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif Somehow, I found that incredibly funny, even though I know you're serious about it; I think I've even SEEN a similar symbol before, if not the same one.
Jeez. If you're gonna make an obscene symbol chat, at least put a little effort into it! Crude symbol chats make baby Jesus cry. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif
As long as I never see a male stick figure penetrating something that's supposed to be a rappy, I can tolerate it. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_dead.gif

[Spy]

I'll agree that human/animal porn is over the line. As long as something involves only consenting adults I could care less though.

[Rotis]

On 2003-01-16 12:06, Spy wrote:
I'll agree that human/animal porn is over the line. As long as something involves only consenting adults I could care less though.


What about animal/animal porn? >.>

uNF uNF, at least they aren't faking it!

[Ness]

On 2003-01-16 04:32, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:

On 2003-01-16 04:01, rena-ko wrote:
a obviously male stick figure penetrating something thats supposed to be a sheep is not porn for me, its disgusting.


You'd be surprised at how many people find this sexually stimulating, or humourous.




I too find it very disgusting and I have yet to meet a person that gets off on that shit.

[Wewt]

On 2003-01-16 12:46, Rotis wrote:

On 2003-01-16 12:06, Spy wrote:
I'll agree that human/animal porn is over the line. As long as something involves only consenting adults I could care less though.


What about animal/animal porn? >.>

uNF uNF, at least they aren't faking it!


That Discovery Channel is just fine.

[Alielle]

Stop with the sexist, overgeneralized comments. >Ness

Of course, I'm sure your peer group of 14-year-old boys or whatever finds no problem with porn. But if you get a chance to look at the rest of the world, a lot of men, along with women, find porn to be objectionable. Of course there'll be more women complaining, though; porn is aimed at men (for the most part), and ingrains in them impossible ideals of beauty that 99% of women don't have a chance to achieve without plastic surgery and/or eating disorders. Nowadays, it seems like guys won't even look at a woman if she's not 20 pounds underweight or a 36D or something, since our culture seems to have a really hard time distinguishing fantasy from reality. Being constantly sized up like a piece of meat gets really tiresome. If you were female, wouldn't you be angry about that, too? There are a lot of guys that understand this, too, and they don't want to contribute to the problem.

I don't have a problem with porn, as long as people realize that it's just a fantasy, and as long as it doesn't end up replacing intimate time with your partner. But most guys, even if they can't help it, are imprinted with this idealized view of women being skinny/large-breasted/ large-lipped/long-legged, and any other type is unattractive to them. The media contributes to this somewhat, but most guys look at stuff like Playboy from the time they're 11 or 12 years old. It's pretty depressing.

[dude3282]

On 2003-01-16 16:04, Alielle wrote:
Stop with the sexist, overgeneralized comments. >Ness

Of course, I'm sure your peer group of 14-year-old boys or whatever finds no problem with porn. But if you get a chance to look at the rest of the world, a lot of men, along with women, find porn to be objectionable. Of course there'll be more women complaining, though; porn is aimed at men (for the most part), and ingrains in them impossible ideals of beauty that 99% of women don't have a chance to achieve without plastic surgery and/or eating disorders. Nowadays, it seems like guys won't even look at a woman if she's not 20 pounds underweight or a 36D or something, since our culture seems to have a really hard time distinguishing fantasy from reality.

But most guys, even if they can't help it, are imprinted with this idealized view of women being skinny/large-breasted/ large-lipped/long-legged, and any other type is unattractive to them. The media contributes to this somewhat, but most guys look at stuff like Playboy from the time they're 11 or 12 years old. It's pretty depressing.



I wholeheartedly agree.

[Spy]

On 2003-01-16 16:04, Alielle wrote:
Stop with the sexist, overgeneralized comments. >Ness


People dig the best graves for themselves. I say sally fourth Ness!


But if you get a chance to look at the rest of the world, a lot of men, along with women, find porn to be objectionable. Of course there'll be more women complaining, though; porn is aimed at men (for the most part), and ingrains in them impossible ideals of beauty that 99% of women don't have a chance to achieve without plastic surgery and/or eating disorders.


Porn also "implants"(haha, I made a blatant pun) the idea in the boys who read it that they themselves are inadequetely equiped. In this regard, pronography is a lose/lose suituation for everyone.


Nowadays, it seems like guys won't even look at a woman if she's not 20 pounds underweight or a 36D or something, since our culture seems to have a really hard time distinguishing fantasy from reality. Being constantly sized up like a piece of meat gets really tiresome.


Sex in the city - men are sized up too in media it seems a lot more blatantly than women. Again, it's happening on both sides of the two-way street.


I don't have a problem with porn, as long as people realize that it's just a fantasy, and as long as it doesn't end up replacing intimate time with your partner.


Amen. However, I have found that when I have an intimate partner I have no real need for porn. Go figure.


But most guys, even if they can't help it, are imprinted with this idealized view of women being skinny/large-breasted/ large-lipped/long-legged, and any other type is unattractive to them.


Haha, I'm a fan of this. It cuts down my competition exponentially.


Dude: Spy, your new girl isn't all that hot.

Spy: Well, I'm not really into her for physical appearance, not to say that she isn't hot, because she is, but at least I have a girl friend. You've been looking for what, like 8 months now?



The media contributes to this somewhat, but most guys look at stuff like Playboy from the time they're 11 or 12 years old.

The media contributes to it alot, yet again, on both sides.


It's pretty depressing.


Yes and no. It cuts back a lot of the normal same-o pedestrians and eliminates them from the pool, making the special fish easier to find and catch.

What's really depressing was how many people needed to see my pic to determine a "no" vote for my "Am I Sexy" poll. I was hoping more people would have pointed out that I'm a fucking asshole in my replies and voted no on that point alone. That says a lot about society and the emphasis on physical appearance right there though ^_^

[Alielle]

Spy, you're absolutely right... media/porn affects males' perceptions of themselves, too, especially in the, er, size department. I always have to reassure that "it's not the size, it's how many times you can make it rise."

heh...

The typical toned look that's considered "hot" for guys kinda scares me, too. I like having something to squish, not just meat and bones. ;_;

Dude: Spy, your new girl isn't all that hot.

Spy: Well, I'm not really into her for physical appearance, not to say that she isn't hot, because she is, but at least I have a girl friend. You've been looking for what, like 8 months now?


XD I can relate to this!

Yes and no. It cuts back a lot of the normal same-o pedestrians and eliminates them from the pool, making the special fish easier to find and catch.

I completely agree. In fact, I was going to mention the same point before the aliens jacked my brain.

Back to history homework...

[Spy]

On 2003-01-16 21:31, Alielle wrote:

I always have to reassure that "it's not the size, it's how many times you can make it rise."


XD

Cute rhyme. I could comment that I've never needed to hear such reassurances, but would anyone really believe me? Egads! I've already said too much http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif