The differences between races??

[sildragon]

Does anyone know the stat difference between the races? I'm a newman acrofighter and was wondering what the attack power would be as a cast or beast. Thanx

[Da_trader]

beast highest , cast second , human third, newman dead last for attack power



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[Ezodagrom]

Human Male/Human Female/Newman Male/Newman Female/Cast Male/Cast Female/Beast Male/Beast Female

HP: 87% / 84% / 81% / 78% / 95% / 92% / 100% / 97%
ATP: 85% / 81% / 78% / 74% / 93% / 89% / 100% / 96%
ATA: 87% / 83% / 93% / 90% / 100% / 97% / 73% / 70%
TP: 85% / 88% / 98% / 100% / 53% / 59% / 65% / 68%
DFP: 86% / 90% / 79% / 82% / 96% / 100% / 89% / 93%
EVP: 89% / 93% / 96% / 100% / 68% / 72% / 82% / 86%
MST: 57% / 63% / 92% / 100% / 36% / 38% / 42% / 44%

This is based on lvl 120 chars (and no class boosts), the ones with 100% are the ones with the highest of that type of stat (for example, 100% on HP for Beast male, means he has the highest HP between the other races), the other ones are compared to the 100% one.
The % values are approximated ones and not exact ones.

[drizzle]

Beast = attack power
Newman = TECHNIC power
Human = balanced
CAST = Beast with lower stats

[sildragon]

thanx for your help

[AZKlegend]

Well first off CAST can have SUVs and Beasts can have Beast Mode. IF you didn't already know that...

[Angelo]

More accurate:

Human = Balanced stats
Newman = Specialize in TECHNICS and Evasion
CAST = Specialize in Accuracy and Defense
Beast = Specialize in Attack and HP

[Pillan]

Here’s a more in-depth one:

Beasts:

Their high HP gives them the highest survivability when enemies are significantly stronger than you. They have the highest ATP, so they get the highest output with melee when the enemy isn’t significantly stronger and the highest output with range when the enemy is significantly weaker. They also have Nanoblasts, which increase all their stats for a short period of time, allowing them to deal a lot of damage at the cost of an inability to heal for the duration of the attack. Their primary weakness is their low TP, which makes them bad at attack techniques, but they can use support techniques with ease (as can every other race). They work well as any class outside of Fortetecher.

They also receive a 3% stat bonus to Hunter and Fortefighter.

Casts:

They have the highest ATA and DFP coupled with the second highest HP and ATP, making them an ideal for any combination of melee and ranged attacks. However, their high accuracy only outweighs Beast ATP when the enemy is significantly stronger or the weapon adds low ATA or has a low accuracy modifier. Their DFP outweighs Beast HP when your armor element is high and the enemy isn’t significantly stronger than you and also stops enemy attacks from knocking you over earlier on. So, in general, they’re the second best hunters and the best rangers. They also have the ability to use SUV weapons for a quick burst of invincibility, damage, and status effects. Like Beasts, their primary weakness is their low TP (even lower than Beasts), but they can use support techniques with ease. They’re arguably a better balanced class than humans if you don’t intend to use techniques for damage. They work well as any class outside of Fortetecher.

They also receive a 3% stat bonus to Ranger and Fortegunner.

Humans:

They have the most balanced stats all around, making them the ideal for any class that uses all stats (every class except Fortefighter, Protranser, and Fortetecher) and they also receive a 2% stat bonus to all basic classes, a 3% stat bonus to Fighgunner, Guntecher, Wartecher, and Protranser, and a 5% stat bonus to Acrofighter and Acrotecher. As an Acro-class, their stats nearly overlap Cast ATP and Newman ATA and EVP and they really do overlap Beast DFP. Their MST outweighs the HP advantage of Beasts and Casts with mid-range elemental armor when the enemy isn’t significantly stronger. They are also the highest ATP race that can equip A rank Crea weapons, which hit an extra target with their basic attacks. However, their balanced stats and bonuses come at the price of a special ability.

Newmans:

They have the highest TP, MST, and EVP, making them the ideal for any pure-casting class. Unlike Casts and Beasts, Newmans boast a huge TP and MST advantage without taking a painful hit in attack power, but they still have the lowest HP and ATP. They also have the second highest accuracy, making them situationally more effective than humans as rangers when the enemy is significantly stronger. They have the most ideal stats for Shadoog use and their huge MST advantage outweighs the other races’ HP early on. Like humans, they can equip A rank Crea weapons and their balanced stats come at the cost of a special ability.

They receive a 3% stat bonus to Force, Fighgunner, Watecher, Guntecher, and Fortetecher.



I avoided mentioning EVP because it’s a very situational stat. EVP allows you to completely negate an attack, at the cost of interrupting your current action, but this could possibly save you from an attack that would further interrupt you by sending your character airborne. If you are using melee attacks, this often is an annoyance since high EVP interrupts more skills than stopping powerful attacks, but it has no negative effects on ranged attacks and speeds up tech attacks.

[Indica]

Newman vs Human for Fortetecher there is a 300+ TP difference

[SATatami]

Casts are superior. They always will be. We will domin-BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH. BLUE SCREEN OF DEaTh. DaMn YoU bIlL gAtEs.

On an actual note, Female casts have the highest DFP in the game? I didn't know that... >_>

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[Shiro_Ryuu]

What Pillan said pretty much. Newmans are last, but not exactly dead last like CAST TP. In FFXI terms, Newmans are the Mithras of this game, the 2nd balanced race in the game with more speed and magical strength but less physical strength.

[Retniwreven]

Beast women are the best.

>_>
<_<

There, I said it. Don't make me tell Laia on you.

[Doh42]

Newmans are the taru-taru of PSU. Fast, agile, weak, and magically-aligned. There are no "mithra" of FFXI in PSU, and if there is, it would be Human Male (Mithra) vs Human Female (Hume in FFXI).

Mithra weren't magically aligned, they were actually weaker in MND (white magic related and magic resist) than HUME, and had lower CHR (Pretty useless stat, that), in favor of having an overall boost to melee stats. (lower VIT and STR, but with a much greater gain in DEX and AGI). The difference between Hume and Mithra in FFXI was pretty small, however, being both the "good-at-everything races", so I really think the Human Male/Female difference in PSU is closer to that analogy.

That being said, Newman melee isn't as bad as most people would say. Your biggest issue will be meeting the ATP to actually equip the weapons. (My Newman Fighgunner F ---Worst ATP in the game--- had to wait for level 43 to be able to use Crea Doubles) The 2nd best ATA will allow you to use ATP boosting unit, and the EVP and MST will probably make your character decently sturdy. Losing on Nanoblast and/or SUV is a big price to pay for novelty, but it's not like Nanoblast and/or SUV are required to solve any of PSU's challenge, anyway.

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[SirenV]

I think there's too much explanation here, as he probably was looking for a numerical answer. According to the Japanese wiki for level 120 Acrofighter 15, the difference between Numan and Beast Acrofighter is about 300-360 in ATP, and it will increase as character and job levels increase in the future.

In case you're wondering, here are the rest of the stats.

Stats are "Male/Female"

-------Human-------Newman--------Cast--------Beast----
HP---2912/2821---2600/2513----3033/2946----3206/3120
ATP--1233/1179---1073/1022----1277/1226----1380/1329
ATA---593/570-----609/586------652/630------478/456
TAP--1683/1741---1837/1879----994/1106----1215/1271
DFP--297/310------261/271------318/330------295/307
EVP--977/1018----1005/1044-----708/746------856/895
MST--262/288------400/434------157/167------182/191
END---12/15---------12/14--------12/14--------12/14

[Pillan]

I prefer to avoid numerical explanations because if you look at the numbers alone, you'd think the 40 ATP difference between Cast and human Acrofighters would be greatly outweighed by the 600+ TP difference while skill mods, skill speed, Just Attack, and the slow firing rate of Shadoogs (not to mention lack of use for Shadoogs at opposite element) make it so the tiny ATP and ATA advantage of Casts will either surpass or at worst case be on-par with a human of the same gender equipping 1 hand melee weapon with a Shadoog.

Point being, you need more than the numbers. You need the meaning behind the numbers.

[Zorafim]

On 2008-01-21 14:24, Doh42 wrote:
Your biggest issue will be meeting the ATP to actually equip the weapons.


Post update, my newman acrotecher had to wait until around lv30 to equip a crimson. I don't think ATP requirements are worth worrying about anymore.

Seeing how minor the difference is between beast and newman ATP, but how major the difference is between newman and cast TP (or any race compared to newman), I wish they made a race to cator to the force job instead of hunter. Cast and beast stats are very similar, but any magically inclined races would stand out.

[Pengfishh]

Ears!

[SirenV]

Well, I normally don't favor numerical explanations alone either, but he didn't ask about racial designations - I'm sure he already knows that. He asked "I'm a newman acrofighter and was wondering what the attack power would be as a cast or beast."(They don't ALWAYS use shadoogs). I'm sure he knows they have more, but wants to know how much more. Things like an 800 hp difference are something to consider for some people. "How low is the lowest?" One without the other gives you an idea but not the whole picture.

[Pillan]

A general rule of thumb is that as any class with an EVP mod higher than Fortegunner, a Newman with opposite element Tenora armor has enough EVP to make up for the HP difference. The survivability is still a little lower, but at that point it's dying in 30 hits versus 35... Survivability is really only an issue early on, and you can decrease that issue by just getting better element percentages.

And, of course, Newmans have the highest survivability as Fortetecher. Every other class has a high enough HP+DFP combination to balance and eventually outweigh Newman EVP in favor of DFP.

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[RemiusTA]

will people please stop using FFXI references like anyone knows what the hell their talking about

[Laranas]

On 2008-01-21 17:48, RemiusTA wrote:
will people please stop using FFXI references like anyone knows what the hell their talking aboutSeriously, I lose interest in the thread when it goes to that level.

[EngelBlut]

On 2008-01-21 13:43, SATatami wrote:
Casts are superior. They always will be. We will domin-BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH. BLUE SCREEN OF DEaTh. DaMn YoU bIlL gAtEs.

On an actual note, Female casts have the highest DFP in the game? I didn't know that... >_>

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yeah baby cast rule this game woooooo..
this topic is gonna turn into such a race war

[Laranas]

On 2008-01-21 18:12, EngelBlut wrote:

On 2008-01-21 13:43, SATatami wrote:
Casts are superior. They always will be.
yeah baby cast rule this game woooooo..
It's always the CASTs, I swear...

[EngelBlut]

On 2008-01-21 18:15, Laranas wrote:

On 2008-01-21 18:12, EngelBlut wrote:

On 2008-01-21 13:43, SATatami wrote:
Casts are superior. They always will be.
yeah baby cast rule this game woooooo..
It's always the CASTs, I swear...

yes i mean come on we're sexy and hot and if you havent noticed most of the scammers on 360 server are beasts most of the little kids and really annoying people are beasts also id add more but im trying not to get banned

[Leahcim]

Casts are supremacists AMFs led by Magashi
Humans are the Illuminus and are out to kill/enslave everyone else.
Newmans are run by the secretive COG.

Beasts stand alone as being the only non-evil race http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



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[EngelBlut]

what about the rouges?

[Pillan]

On 2008-01-21 18:21, Leahcim wrote:
Casts are supremacists AMFs led by Magashi


Magashi kind of betrayed the Casts for the Illuminus... I'm offended that you would call him a lead figure. A better figurehead would be Mother Brain.

[Leahcim]

Okay, and she's now controlled by the SEED XD

[EngelBlut]

the beasts are rouges god dammit they are the evilest evil in the game

[Alizarin]

What evil? Alfort Tylor's a nice guy.

[Leahcim]

- Laia Becomes the leader of the GAURDIANS and helps stabilize the Colony
- Tylor and Liina (rouges) help Ethan Save the universe in the first game and rescue you in Episode 2 from the bomb
- Leo and Tonio are two hero characters that stay with the light thorught the whole story.

All beasts.

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[EngelBlut]

On 2008-01-21 18:36, Alizarin wrote:
What evil? Alfort Tylor's a nice guy.

yes but hes a beast so he is evil just like laia.. who is such an idiot btw and she makes me hate the online story

[Laranas]

On 2008-01-21 18:38, EngelBlut wrote:

On 2008-01-21 18:36, Alizarin wrote:
What evil? Alfort Tylor's a nice guy.

yes but hes a beast so he is evil just like laia.. who is such an idiot btw and she makes me hate the online story

The wrong meter is reaching critical levels, sir!

[EngelBlut]

On 2008-01-21 18:53, Laranas wrote:

On 2008-01-21 18:38, EngelBlut wrote:

On 2008-01-21 18:36, Alizarin wrote:
What evil? Alfort Tylor's a nice guy.

yes but hes a beast so he is evil just like laia.. who is such an idiot btw and she makes me hate the online story

The wrong meter is reaching critical levels, sir!

it has omg we're all gonna die save the children run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! maybe i can get spock or scotty to beam us up

[Pillan]

On 2008-01-21 18:31, Leahcim wrote:
Okay, and she's now controlled by the SEED XD


We can always make another one. It's not like anything's perminent with Casts. They keep getting infected and we keep rebuilding them. Why do you think you've fought thousands of Fakises and Mother Brains?

[EngelBlut]

fakis isnt a cast

[Chaobo99]

On 2008-01-21 20:04, EngelBlut wrote:
fakis isnt a cast



But he WAS a CAST..wow this is getting way off topic >.>

[Skuda]

This has gone quite offtopic folks. If you wish to continue the discussion, please make a new thread. Since The OP's question has been thoroughly covered, I'm going to lock 'er up.