so much for more exp on rare maps lol

[tailz]

not sure if anyone else noticed this, but ive been soloing zoal/magas side for just over 200k exp a run... n i never checked the exp on the rare run until a minute ago, which only gave 186k, even tho it gets the 350% exp rate lol makes sense, block 4 of the regular map is packed with robots... just never thought about it

just random info http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif have fun

EDIT: all stats are here now except grinna s map

protectors beta:
block 1
5,760

zoal/magas side:
block 2
23,256

block 3
normal: 44,158
grinna S: ???
normal valley of carnage: 74,323
rare valley of carnage: 70,378

block 4
normal: 97,849
grinna S: ???
normal firebreak: 33,121
rare firebreak: 33,319

bosses
zoal goug: 12,560
magas magahna: 18,840
dulk 1: 19,782
dulk 2: 32,970

NORMAL TOTAL: 202,423
GRINNA S TOTAL: 211,735
NORMAL VoC TOTAL: 189,212
RARE VoC TOTAL: 185,465


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[Mikura]

Yeah, I've already known about this. Me and a buddy were doing the bot route for exp and we even cancelled one mission when we got the rare variant. We hate it THAT much.

[tailz]

lol ya i considered that... but i could use the drops... dont really care if it takes longer.. even tho i hate magashi

[EngelBlut]

ive gotten like 240k on the rare map with the robots.. of corse i killer shot 90% of it

[tailz]

On 2008-01-21 18:06, EngelBlut wrote:
ive gotten like 240k on the rare map with the robots.. of corse i killer shot 90% of it



not with the grinna S, i mean the map with grinna C's and VoC/firebreak... the normal map on that side has 202,423 exp exactly... ive confirmed this about 59 times soloing it lol... ever since the 3rd or 4th time, i havent written down the exp so i always miss the rare maps, but im keepin track now so i can get the actual number, but i know its really close to 186k... ive never gotten the grinna S's so i hav no clue about that

[EngelBlut]

its like 2400 per grinna beta then you have jaos at 2450

[tailz]

k i got the actual exp numbers now:
(note: these numbers are only accurate if you've hit the creature exp cap level, somewhere around 85-90 i think... if u dont kno what im talking about, you get dif. amounts of exp from creatures depending on ur level until u reach 85-90ish)

i dont even know the setup of the grinna s map... so if someone knows the exp numbers or at least what b4 and the bosses are, plz let me know

EDIT: got the grinna s map, but wasnt solo, so still no numbers - stats are in post 1 now

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[tailz]

On 2008-01-21 18:06, EngelBlut wrote:
ive gotten like 240k on the rare map with the robots.. of corse i killer shot 90% of it



ok i just got the grinna S map, and of course it was the first one i wasnt soloing lol so i dont have the numbers... but it looked like all that changed were the rare bees, grinnas, and jaggos instead of bees in b4... so theres absolutely no way its 240k, it would be 210k ish, tops... and what does killer shot have to do with it? lol

[pikachief]

ok the rare map takes longer, is harder, gives less EXP, and its rare spawn is worse than the regular map's rare spawn.

My game freezes on the rare map and i got a ton of people who would leave my party when i told them i would have to abandon if we got rare map.

and that was after i told them about how the regular was better yet they still all leave.

tehre is no reason for teh rare map, y do people still want it so much? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif (also im playing on A so i dont think its for dulk fakis drops)

[desturel]

On 2008-01-21 22:32, pikachief wrote:
tehre is no reason for teh rare map, y do people still want it so much? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif (also im playing on A so i dont think its for dulk fakis drops)


Probably nanoresin/polymer and a chance at an agito edge (although Magashi is a cheap bastard who only drops dimates and megi-photon. >< )

The regular version is great for EXP and a chance at a blackbull, but it's pretty light on other items.

The Onma/Dimma side gives a decent amount of Neu Ebon, Walna, Ortaresin/Polymer and is quick and easy if you have a gunner. On S, it's about the only chance you have of seeing a Kazarod (I've seen far more Gudda Hon drops than Kazarod drops though. Three Hon Drops, about six Rabol Asteed, and two Yamata-senba. No Gur Asteed or Kazarod yet. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif )

The Maggahna side gives tons of EXP and on S provides one of the best chances most people will have for Blackbull, Rattlesnake, Hoshi-kikami or Zanshu-misaki.

[Hrith]

And Shigga Baret


I find playing the "rare" map stupid, and I cancel it all the time.

[landman]

On 2008-01-21 22:32, pikachief wrote:
ok the rare map takes longer, is harder, gives less EXP, and its rare spawn is worse than the regular map's rare spawn.

My game freezes on the rare map and i got a ton of people who would leave my party when i told them i would have to abandon if we got rare map.

and that was after i told them about how the regular was better yet they still all leave.

tehre is no reason for teh rare map, y do people still want it so much? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif (also im playing on A so i dont think its for dulk fakis drops)



¡¡¡Because we finally have Burning Hearts in 360 firebreak that's why!!! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[CelestialBlade]

The Magashi version of the Rare Map is probably the most annoying map the game has ever produced, if you're melee. Vanda Merhas constantly back up so you can't wail through them with a good mob attack, their Damfoie and Diga do shitloads of damage, and we all know how annoying SEED-Magashi is. I only bother sticking through it because I'm a sucker for nostalgia and I miss Urgent Orders.

[darkante]

Rare map is very annoying with constant shielded vahras.

I prefer to put down robots with killer shot.
Even though it´s only 19 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

I rather have a chance on Rattlesnake and Shigga Baret too.

So..go away..pointless rare map.
Gib instead rare enemies on regular event mission. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
An extra Blackbull would always be nice to have. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[pikachief]

On 2008-01-22 07:30, darkante wrote:
Rare map is very annoying with constant shielded vahras.

I prefer to put down robots with killer shot.
Even though it´s only 19 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

I rather have a chance on Rattlesnake and Shigga Baret too.

So..go away..pointless rare map.
Gib instead rare enemies on regular event mission. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
An extra Blackbull would always be nice to have. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif



thats to killer shot i was able to get from lvl 25-57 in 1 day wtih a guy who ONLY HAS 1 PAIR OF FISTS NAD 2* ARMOR XD

I was pretty much soloing the whole time, i didnt want to leave him tho he was cool. And his name was "Disco Dave", y would u leave a guy like that? lol

[Chaosgyro]

Heh, I believe there's a rant about that guy in the Dead Horse Society.

[stukasa]

The rare map is harder, takes longer AND gives less EXP. If it wasn't for the chance of rare drops (and the Polymers in Block D) I'd just abandon it every time. >.>

Also, Magashi never drops anything good and takes *forever* to burn with Foie. >.<

[tailz]

ya... for the record, i didnt even know this map existed cuz ive solo'd this run (with the exception of a few duo runs) to get 2 separate characters from 110-120, and i didnt run into this map until my last run to get me to 120 lol but theres a VoC map thats just the normal map... figured there was, since there was in alpha, just hadnt seen it until now

i hit 120 halfway thru, so idunno the exp count for the map, and im 99% sure no one cares lol whats important is that the rare map has less exp even with the extra bonus. period. as pikachief outlined-it pretty much sucks... my girlfriend also lags out every single time we get to fakis, and she lags at most bosses ever since day 1 :/

7 kog nadd at 3500 sumthin exp tho, n theyre easy - block 4 hard jarba instead of jaggos - fakis boss
lol i got to block 4 (firebreak) with 60/60 items n the banner said 'inventory full. please remove some items.' n then the screen went black - i was like omg tell me that didnt just fail the mission lol back to block 3 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Gen2000]

On 2008-01-21 22:32, pikachief wrote:
tehre is no reason for teh rare map, y do people still want it so much? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif (also im playing on A so i dont think its for dulk fakis drops)



"Burning Rangers"

That alone is enough for me. It's not even that hard imo unless you're FT and that's mainly because the Olgomon or w/e fawks you up with their tech resistant and what seems to be Sori/ Quick Tech Charge EX++++ they have equip when slinging those Foies.

[tailz]

On 2008-01-22 10:47, Gen2000 wrote:

On 2008-01-21 22:32, pikachief wrote:
tehre is no reason for teh rare map, y do people still want it so much? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif (also im playing on A so i dont think its for dulk fakis drops)



Sori/ Quick Tech Charge EX++++



lmao agreed... maybe an extra + or 2

[pikachief]

On 2008-01-22 10:47, Gen2000 wrote:

On 2008-01-21 22:32, pikachief wrote:
tehre is no reason for teh rare map, y do people still want it so much? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif (also im playing on A so i dont think its for dulk fakis drops)



"Burning Rangers"

That alone is enough for me. It's not even that hard imo unless you're FT and that's mainly because the Olgomon or w/e fawks you up with their tech resistant and what seems to be Sori/ Quick Tech Charge EX++++ they have equip when slinging those Foies.



well im not saying its really hard i meant its hardER and thus takes longer than the other route http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[tailz]

ok i got the non-rare VoC map again, so this time i got the exp counts, and now the whole list is in post 1

btw, i just gotta blackheart board from fakis so i guess its worth it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
cheapest on 360 is 8mil http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


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[Mystil]

^I laughed, but I kinda agree.

On 2008-01-22 07:18, Typheros wrote:
The Magashi version of the Rare Map is probably the most annoying map the game has ever produced, if you're melee. Vanda Merhas constantly back up so you can't wail through them with a good mob attack, their Damfoie and Diga do shitloads of damage, and we all know how annoying SEED-Magashi is. I only bother sticking through it because I'm a sucker for nostalgia and I miss Urgent Orders.


At the risk of sounding like "one of them", I don't have a problem attacking vandas and still don't know why others, like yourself have such difficulties engauging them. I'd explain how to deal with them..but it's been done to death and shot down 100,000,000 times and just don't feel its worth it anymore.

All I say is..the moment they stop(at that moment) to use haxfoie..you begin running behind them.

One of these days(or months ;p) I'll make a video on how I handle them..





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[Turbobrain]

On 2008-01-21 22:32, pikachief wrote:
ok the rare map takes longer, is harder, gives less EXP, and its rare spawn is worse than the regular map's rare spawn.

My game freezes on the rare map and i got a ton of people who would leave my party when i told them i would have to abandon if we got rare map.

and that was after i told them about how the regular was better yet they still all leave.

tehre is no reason for teh rare map, y do people still want it so much? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif (also im playing on A so i dont think its for dulk fakis drops)



My feelings exactly... though I thank it for dropping me two Desta's and one Mugunruk:)