Rollback? WTF?

[BFGfreak]

I've been hearing alot of talk about a rollback on the 360 servers, my question is what the hell is going on that is making people think there will be a rollback?

[mrbrando62]

go check the grinder +10 prices. someone glitched a shit load

[WHlTEKNIGHT]

everyone glitched a sh*t load some joker posted videos on the net

[amtalx]

Sucks. At least someone will be getting banned! Yay banning!

[zandra117]

I made a thread about it here warning people how to prepare 10 hours before it actually went crazy but it got locked because I was running a "recruitment drive".

[Noblewine]

The glitch will ruin the balance of the economy because theirs a way to dupe grinder to +10. The only people that are going to use it are the ones that are desperate for meseta. I'm not going to use it.


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[amtalx]

I recommend pulling items out of your shops everyone...there's going to be A LOT of bogus meseta floating around. So...I guess we can do that PC/PS2 and 360 server merge now right? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Kufell]

There was just a message saying that the GMs are investigating and will be suspending all suspicious accounts with 48 hour suspensions.. 48 hours is pretty weak.

EDIT:Nevermind, it says a minimum of 48 hours.

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[ilovetypemoon]

Ew, get your haxeta away from our servers. XD

[BFGfreak]

Damn. Well, hopefully, if they do rollback, we will at least get an extra week of this event, because if I'm right about how Sega rolls back the servers, we will be rolled back to the previous maintnence, thereby negating the week.

[amtalx]

On 2008-01-29 10:57, BFGfreak wrote:
Damn. Well, hopefully, if they do rollback, we will at least get an extra week of this event, because if I'm right about how Sega rolls back the servers, we will be rolled back to the previous maintnence, thereby negating the week.



Only dumbasses back up their servers once a week...but..yeeeeah...

[GuardianElite]

it usually day before

[Hrith]

360, where cheating does not exist.

[Kufell]

On 2008-01-29 11:11, Hrith wrote:
360, where cheating does not exist.


But we all know Glitching exists.

[Starrz]

Which is totally not cheating. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

[GuardianElite]

and you all know exploiting a glitch is a form of cheating

[Yusaku_Kudou]

On 2008-01-29 11:11, Hrith wrote:
360, where cheating does not exist.



Hacking != Cheating

[Yunfa]

ive been doing PA frags ALL morning, if SEGA decides to rollback, l;askjfl;skjflk;asdj LIES

[GuardianElite]

On 2008-01-29 11:19, Yusaku_Kudou wrote:

On 2008-01-29 11:11, Hrith wrote:
360, where cheating does not exist.



Glitching != Cheating



Fixed

[Aewyn]

10 PRINT "KARMA'S A BITCH"; 20 GOTO 10

[Hiro_EtBlue]

I hope they don't roll it back to the last update, I made some good buys this weekend. Watch, now all the weapons I make are going to come out high percents right before the rollback http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Cracka_J]

has anyone confirmed whether or not this is a 360 specific glitch?
just watched the vid, and the guy did nothing out of the ordinary that couldn't be done on pc/ps2.

[xeku]

Heh...I'd be pissed, although slightly amused as well.
I actually made some good money selling legit S grinders the past week.
Go figure.
How's that old song go: "if it weren't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all.."

[chibiLegolas]

Hmm... So essentially, we might as well not play at all since there's gonna be a roll back and all progress since last night is gonna be for nothing?

Or has the rollback accurred already?

[Fox_Makenshi]

That sucks that this happened but hey if the PS2/PC Version can survive it then the 360 version definitely can. Plus at this point in the game it's not that hard to get several mil legit anyways. When it happened on PS2/PC version money was a lot harder to get.

Rollbacks suck btw, I dunno if I even want to play tonight because of the possibility.

Love,
Fox Makenshi

[Africa]

[quote]On 2008-01-29 11:34, Cracka_J wrote:
has anyone confirmed whether or not this is a 360 specific glitch?
just watched the vid, and the guy did nothing out of the ordinary that couldn't be done on pc/ps2.

[/quote


aren't most of these glitches doable on both platforms as always.this community should be past pc / ps2 vs xbox by now.

[beatrixkiddo]

I've been trying it on PS2/PC (with C+7 grinders on a store-bought Sword, oh noes!), and it appears it doesn't work on PS2/PC... unless you need to use a gamepad (which I'm not).

[Akaimizu]

Possible it's a gamepad thing, but I don't know about it. The report mentioned specifically S grinders for this....but I can't tell you how conclusive that info is.

[BFGfreak]

On 2008-01-29 11:38, xeku wrote:
Heh...I'd be pissed, although slightly amused as well.
I actually made some good money selling legit S grinders the past week.
Go figure.
How's that old song go: "if it weren't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all.."




Yeah I know. It's just sad that there are some idiots who have to ruin it for everyone and exploit every glitch they can to get a ton of money on a game which has absolutly no hope of making the top 100 games on live.

[Aewyn]

I'm confused by the popularity comment. Do you only play games because they're popular? I thought we were all playing PSU because we liked it, not because we wanted it to get super duper extra skinna-marinky-dinky-dink popular.

[Cracka_J]

On 2008-01-29 11:46, Africa wrote:
aren't most of these glitches doable on both platforms as always.this community should be past pc / ps2 vs xbox by now.


Nope, which is why I was inquiring.
I didn't post anything about pc/ps2 vs 360...so don't drag me into a flame war.
My question was directed toward knowing if it was capable cross platform.

beatrixkiddo: thx for the heads up. I won't be convinced tho until someone gives it a shot with an autofire controller or the like.

[EternaTea]

The glitch is actually very simple to set up, it requires an investment of about 300,000 Meseta, and if Sega is just now hearing about it I'm very worried. From everything I've found out on the subject this glitch has been in use for ages.

Incidentally if a rollback does occur they (from what I've found out from people who've been through a couple) are only 24 hour setbacks.

Edit - Wow, I just saw the video. Apparently there are two different grinder glitches. Yay. -_-



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[beatrixkiddo]

Well, I've got a pad here, and Joy2Key, but I'm not really sure what button on the PC keyboard layout would correspond to 360's "B". If anyone knows, I'll use my remaining 10 C+7 grinders to squelch this possibility (I used 27 so far with no luck).

[Miyoko]

... ... Do you REALLY think publicly announcing that the glitch works on PC/PS2 (if it does) would be a good idea? >_>

[beatrixkiddo]

I'm trying to publicly announce that it DOESN'T, to help calm down a few people on here.

[Nai_Calus]

Like US PC/PS2's economy could get any more fucked up than it is. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[EternaTea]

A corresponding PC/PS2 key doesn't exist. Does that help?

[GuardianElite]

using a keyboard or a gamepad should not make difference...

[Spellbinder]

On 2008-01-29 11:22, GuardianElite wrote:

On 2008-01-29 11:19, Yusaku_Kudou wrote:

On 2008-01-29 11:11, Hrith wrote:
360, where cheating does not exist.



Glitching for personal gain = Cheating



Fixed



Fixed

[beatrixkiddo]

Well, I technically got it to work.

I know discussing how to do glitches isn't allowed so I'll keep this explanation bare-boned.

I canceled out of the dialogue, but unlike in the 360 video, the visual bar didn't stay on screen (though it did use the grinder). Then I went to the NPC and sent my items to my room, and they didn't duplicate. Yay. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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[Cracka_J]

I'm assuming b is the cancel from menu button since that's what the guy was doing to get out of the menus quickly.

[GuardianElite]

On 2008-01-29 12:06, Spellbinder wrote:

On 2008-01-29 11:22, GuardianElite wrote:

On 2008-01-29 11:19, Yusaku_Kudou wrote:

On 2008-01-29 11:11, Hrith wrote:
360, where cheating does not exist.



Glitching for personal gain = Cheating



Fixed



Fixed



Smart one thats what i meant btw this ginder glitch is for personal gain which is cheating

[Angerpigeon]

On 2008-01-29 12:06, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Well, I technically got it to work.

I know discussing how to do glitches isn't allowed so I'll keep this explanation bare-boned.

I canceled out of the dialogue, but unlike in the 360 video, the visual bar didn't stay on screen (though it did use the grinder). Then I went to the NPC and sent my items to my room, and they didn't duplicate. Yay. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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Yeah same here using a 360 pad aswell on PC version.. this must have been fixed on PC/ps2a long time ago, so we are safe.. I hope.. >.>

[GuardianElite]

On 2008-01-29 12:19, Angerpigeon wrote:

On 2008-01-29 12:06, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Well, I technically got it to work.

I know discussing how to do glitches isn't allowed so I'll keep this explanation bare-boned.

I canceled out of the dialogue, but unlike in the 360 video, the visual bar didn't stay on screen (though it did use the grinder). Then I went to the NPC and sent my items to my room, and they didn't duplicate. Yay. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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Yeah same here using a 360 pad aswell on PC version.. this must have been fixed on PC/ps2a long time ago, so we are safe.. I hope.. >.>


or we may not have it begin with..

[Kufell]

From the official PSU board.

Obviously now everyone is aware there is an item duplication exploit in the game, most obviously on the Xbox 360 although it may be on the PC or PS2 as well.

We have been investigating this issue for a few weeks, and some people might have heard that we had suspended about a dozen suspected accounts before Sonic Team was able to zero in on the logs of the cheaters and report them to the GMs. We released the accounts that were only guilty of buying and selling duplicated items and permanently banned the known cheaters.

Last night the secret method to duplicate items was published and we have been forced to suspend 26 more accounts, maybe more before the exploit method is removed.

As we have warned in an in game message, please be aware that we are suspending accounts for at least 48 hours that we suspect are using the glitch. Further actions including permanent bans will be determined by Sonic Team.

We will have more information tonight and tomorrow morning.

[Anduril]

Well, this whole incident saddens me, people that exploit games like this really need to get a life. Luckily, I've only played a couple of hours since the last update, so even if we do get rolled back all I'll be missing is a couple of partner cards and a few level that I can easily make up.


Obviously now everyone is aware there is an item duplication exploit in the game, most obviously on the Xbox 360 although it may be on the PC or PS2 as well.

We have been investigating this issue for a few weeks, and some people might have heard that we had suspended about a dozen suspected accounts before Sonic Team was able to zero in on the logs of the cheaters and report them to the GMs. We released the accounts that were only guilty of buying and selling duplicated items and permanently banned the known cheaters.

Last night the secret method to duplicate items was published and we have been forced to suspend 26 more accounts, maybe more before the exploit method is removed.

As we have warned in an in game message, please be aware that we are suspending accounts for at least 48 hours that we suspect are using the glitch. Further actions including permanent bans will be determined by Sonic Team.

We will have more information tonight and tomorrow morning.

Hot Damn. Now this is the Sonic Team I want to see.



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[slipknot]

i found the video if anyone wants to see it please private message me...

[GuardianElite]

ouch sounds like they mean business xp

[slipknot]

yeah i know what you mean i hate it when people mess up games all because of glitches and hacks,i miss pso for the xbox but poeple messed it all up GOD DAMN, well we should get people to report the guy with the glitch on his youtube page if anyone wants to help we might SAVE THE GAME!!!!!

[BFGfreak]

On 2008-01-29 11:55, Aewyn wrote:
I'm confused by the popularity comment. Do you only play games because they're popular? I thought we were all playing PSU because we liked it, not because we wanted it to get super duper extra skinna-marinky-dinky-dink popular.

What I ment is why do it, if you really arn't going to get recocnized outside of the playerbase. I like PSU because it is infact not a popular game, so not a whole lot of jerks want to play it, and I admit, it is a nice change of pace from the games I usually play like Halo 3 and CoD4.

Edit: Wow, I've never seen Sonic Team act like that, since when did they get such huge balls?



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[chibiLegolas]

Hmmm....
Suspending accounts, and no mention of a rollback. I'm still waiting to hear if it's safe to seriously level/rare hunt till I hear if a rollback will hit us or not.

But then again, when the GM rare x-max mission was accidentally released, they immediately rolled back that same afternoon, no? So perhaps this is Sega's solution to avoiding a rollback?

[Anduril]

I wonder, will they really need to Roll Back? I mean it's not like when the Debug mission was out, where you had all kinds of different items being spread across the Community, it's really just the S Grinders, right, so the duped could be easily singled out?

[GuardianElite]

On 2008-01-29 12:36, BFGfreak wrote:

On 2008-01-29 11:55, Aewyn wrote:
I'm confused by the popularity comment. Do you only play games because they're popular? I thought we were all playing PSU because we liked it, not because we wanted it to get super duper extra skinna-marinky-dinky-dink popular.

What I ment is why do it, if you really arn't going to get recocnized outside of the playerbase. I like PSU because it is infact not a popular game, so not a whole lot of jerks want to play it, and I admit, it is a nice change of pace from the games I usually play like Halo 3 and CoD4.



I think they do it for easy meseta

[Xtian913]

Wow, this is the first I've ever heard of this! CRAZY!!

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[chu-chu-chu]

Be interesting to see if Sonic Team can control this, because from the looks of it the glitch would allow you to duplicate any item. And I would imagine if you put in your meseta, rinsed and repeated, you could max out your common box fairly easily and eventually have max meseta across your characters in a jiffy.

How far back Sonic Team will have to go to minimize this is going to be a tough decision, as it will run through the event and the finds from it that honest players might not get again.

[pikachief]

I BLAME THE PC'S HAXETA!!!

*runs*

[Anduril]

On 2008-01-29 12:43, chu-chu-chu wrote:
Be interesting to see if Sonic Team can control this, because from the looks of it the glitch would allow you to duplicate any item. And I would imagine if you put in your meseta, rinsed and repeated, you could max out your common box fairly easily and eventually have max meseta across your characters in a jiffy.

How far back Sonic Team will have to go to minimize this is going to be a tough decision, as it will run through the event and the finds from it that honest players might not get again.

If it can really be done with any item, then we will definitely have a big problem on our hands. If it were only the S Grinders then they could probably be singled out, kinda like what ST was attempting to do to avoid a rollback with the Debug mission.

[GuardianElite]

On 2008-01-29 12:45, pikachief wrote:
I BLAME THE Xboxes GLITCHETA!!!

*runs*

[chaostroop3]

iknew this day whould come...... pull out your shottys focks its time to go glitcher hunting yeeehhhhaaawwww

[AFA_Steel]

I want to let everyone know that if they rollback because of few idiots that decided to cheat is BullS***. My brother Papa Woody, just found a 11* Long bow, If that gets taken away there will be someone to pay for it. Thanks for your time. KILL ALL CHEATERS!!!!!!

[chu-chu-chu]

On 2008-01-29 12:45, pikachief wrote:
I BLAME THE PC'S HAXETA!!!

*runs*

wat I like about you is that your a super retard. LOL! >.>;



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[Legendria]

Exploiting glitches is bad, but it will never be as bad as creative, raw hacking.

Therefore, PC will never be on an even level with 360 in terms of damages.

[Temjin-On]

A rollback is irritating, but if it keeps some balance, I don't see why can't all just suck it up and learn to live with it.

[Akaimizu]

A lot of informed people will be fine with it. However, a lot of PSU is made up of players who.....er...never visit these sites that much. Put in their hard work, and come back to play. The people, who are going to be the most miffed, are the ones who will find out only after the fact.

In fact, they could be playing right now, and they finally obtained that Bow that they've worked most of a year trying to get, with no idea that they are about to lose it.


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[GuardianElite]

On 2008-01-29 13:18, Legendria wrote:
Exploiting glitches is bad, but it will never be as bad as creative, raw hacking because im a 360 elitest in what i say goes.

[Akaimizu]

Um. It was a joke about comparing the two, it's nothing to do with 360 elitism. Just humor in the light of the situation focusing on glitchers vs. hackers. In fact, I was about to give a rebuttal in the lines of:

"Yes, but you underestimate the power of the glitch. No outside hacker in the world, can outdo the amazing hacks produced....By the ST Coders themselves. A glitch that could even appease the Emporer of the Empire! (Cue Imperial march music)"

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[Anduril]

Can I please ask anyone who wants to post some kind of PC/360 hate, please go do so in a Rant thread in the Rant Section? Leave this thread for discussion for people who are concerned about the issue, and not just about "lulz exbox iz teh stupid with itz hax!", or "PC iz wurz wyth itz haxeta nd haxz wepz!"

[ThePendragon]

Gah, is this confirmed? If so, I will not bother playing the next few days.

[Akaimizu]

No confirmation on a rollback. Right now, the only post we got was concerning STs use of the banhammer on offenders of the glitch. Not all offenders, mind you, but a good number of accounts were hit.

[GuardianElite]

On 2008-01-29 13:28, Anduril wrote:
Can I please ask anyone who wants to post some kind of PC/360 hate, please go do so in a Rant thread in the Rant Section? Leave this thread for discussion for people who are concerned about the issue, and not just about "lulz exbox iz teh stupid with itz hax!", or "PC iz wurz wyth itz haxeta nd haxz wepz!"



what is their more to talk bout about the issue?

[mvffin]

lol @ grinders.

[Yunfa]

that my small prayer of hope that there will be no rollback just shot out the window as i checked the ever declining prices of S grinders down to 10k, this...is...MADNESS (there goes 70 frags i farmed this morning, bllleeeehhhhh)

[Randomness]

On 2008-01-29 12:59, chaostroop3 wrote:
iknew this day whould come...... pull out your shottys focks its time to go glitcher hunting yeeehhhhaaawwww



If I played on 360, I'd be pulling my whole arsenal of fG S ranks to come along with you. Sadly (or fortunately, depending on your point of view), I play on PC.

[superdood22]

All I can say is "how you like dem applez?".

[-Tidus_415-]

LOL @ All pc/ps2 players thinking the 360 server is going end up like theirs. There is no board mod on 360. There is no shop stealing. People are actually getting banned today. How long did it take for people to get banned for all the hax on pc/ps2 when it 1st started way back in november '06? way over 2 months.

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[blkbeast]

lol ok guys....all those dupers on 360 have already made their money...so what yeah what cha gonna do when they come for you...

[superdood22]

On 2008-01-29 14:06, -Tidus_415- wrote:
LOL @ All pc/ps2 players thinking the 360 server is going end up like theirs. There is no board mod on 360. There is no shop stealing. People are actually getting banned today. How long did it take for people to get banned for all the hax on pc/ps2? way over 2 months.

Your proof? Greed got insta-boot from the servers (That was the shop theif), what the hell are you talking about? Anywho, at BlkBeast I also ask you what the hell are you talking about? Its a glitch they cant hack naturally meaning they are powerless against snitches.

[-Tidus_415-]

I edited my post to be more specific. Re-read it.

[xeku]

On 2008-01-29 11:53, BFGfreak wrote:

On 2008-01-29 11:38, xeku wrote:
Heh...I'd be pissed, although slightly amused as well.
I actually made some good money selling legit S grinders the past week.
Go figure.
How's that old song go: "if it weren't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all.."




Yeah I know. It's just sad that there are some idiots who have to ruin it for everyone and exploit every glitch they can to get a ton of money on a game which has absolutly no hope of making the top 100 games on live.



I hear you...
Most kinds of glitches don't bother me (mech-gun glitch for example).
But economy related exploits can effect everyone, often directly.

[-Tidus_415-]

On 2008-01-29 14:49, superdood22 wrote:

On 2008-01-29 14:06, -Tidus_415- wrote:
LOL @ All pc/ps2 players thinking the 360 server is going end up like theirs. There is no board mod on 360. There is no shop stealing. People are actually getting banned today. How long did it take for people to get banned for all the hax on pc/ps2? way over 2 months.

Your proof? Greed got insta-boot from the servers (That was the shop theif), what the hell are you talking about? Anywho, at BlkBeast I also ask you what the hell are you talking about? Its a glitch they cant hack naturally meaning they are powerless against snitches.



Lets go back to around when the game was 1st released. How long was IG, Ryuk, etc around for when they 1st discovered the hax? They started PC/PS2 hax from around Nov '06 and ended (sorta) in Feb '07 (A day or 2 before Dual Sentinal/Desert Goliath was 1st released) when the whole mass banning happened.

Theres proof.

[Powder Keg]

I doubt there will be a rollback. PC/PS2 didn't get a rollback when people had items stolen from their shops (many new 11* = gone). It would more than likely hurt more players than it woudld help. The ONLY reason there ever was a rollback was because of ST's mistake that they wanted to fix. There probably won't be one unless something totally catastrophic happens.

[RemiusTA]

PS2/PC vs 360

Keyboard vs Voicechat

Lag vs. Hax.


Rofl i love this game

[Yunfa]

Hope this makes a few of you guys out there feel a little more secure on hopping on.
(Taken from the offical forums)

We are not intending to roll back, but Sonic Team may decide to do something about the situation tonight.

-ChillAura (the offcial PSU forum site admin)

"decide to do something about the situation tonight" <--- o_o?

[Zorak000]

a rollback of >1 week + during event = horrible, horrible mistake.

Though I give ST a 50/50 chance (a true 50/50) for rollback/no rollback, it would be tragic if everything people did in the past week+ was reset. Many of the ppl that just reciently joined (I noticed an explosion of high account #s in the past week) may just quit and move on...

[Fox_Makenshi]

I doubt there will be a rollback, especially since the event is going on. Not trying to start a console war here but just look at it this way.

When PS2/PC got hacked and had tons of meseta pouring in it was still fairly early in the game, millions were a bit harder to get. This went on for quite some time until ST did something.

Some idiot decides to dupe S Grinders to make easy max meseta on the 360. At this point in the game it's not going to hurt the economy as much since millions of meseta aren't THAT hard to make. Plus ST is dealing with it fairly quickly so the amount of meseta made this way isn't going to be as much.

Love,
Fox Makenshi



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[slipknot]

Lets end this, if they DON'T FIX IT the game is going to end up like PSO FOR XBOX!!!!!!!

[bp_shoruko]

we had a small enough population...oh well. just means all the more reason to only play when my friends happen to be on.

[Arika]

On 2008-01-29 10:48, amtalx wrote:
I recommend pulling items out of your shops everyone...there's going to be A LOT of bogus meseta floating around. So...I guess we can do that PC/PS2 and 360 server merge now right? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



lol yea http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Mewnie]

For those that are late, a recap: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/MagpieMouse/MewnPSU/emot-awesome.gif

[slipknot]

just so people know this the video is no longer access able because the guy got banned from youtube

[slipknot]

On 2008-01-29 12:26, slipknot wrote:
lol no longer aviliable

[AlphaDragoon]

360 guys got hit by dupers? Sucks, sorry to hear that.

Hang in there folks, it's lame but you'll make it through.

[Turbobrain]

I've just seen the glitch, it's scary effective. I was wrong about how it works though I know now. An entire common box full of 99* s+10 grinders.... meh.... now the information is out and about I guess lots of people will be doing it despite the fact they could get banned.

Even though it's not on my server(yet?) I will be leaving the whole grinding thing alone for a while.

I think as it is a glitch it may work on PS2, I hope not but... Sega backup now!

[Turbobrain]

On 2008-01-30 05:29, slipknot wrote:
just so people know this the video is no longer access able because the guy got banned from youtube



What? Theres been another video for ages... look!

[Yusaku_Kudou]

I still don't see this ruined economy people are talking about. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

[darkante]

Hopefully if there is a rollback (PS2-PC), it doesn´t affect today.
I spent so many hours leveling my spells. :S

[amtalx]

On 2008-01-30 08:57, Yusaku_Kudou wrote:
I still don't see this ruined economy people are talking about. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif



ST brought out their banhammer with the quickness. Some of my more nefarious friends said they were banning left and right. One guy said 20+ of the people on his friends list got a nice "GTFO" from ST.

[WhiteKnight01]

On 2008-01-30 08:57, Yusaku_Kudou wrote:
I still don't see this ruined economy people are talking about. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif


I looked in my shop today and my 2 mil shato sold when I checked the other prices the cheapest was 4/4 at 40mil well if that's not ruind then I don't know what is. If a noob wants a great pallet fine by me at least his pa's arnt nowhere near mine 30+ on almost all of them

[Xtian913]

On 2008-01-30 09:46, amtalx wrote:

On 2008-01-30 08:57, Yusaku_Kudou wrote:
I still don't see this ruined economy people are talking about. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif



ST brought out their banhammer with the quickness. Some of my more nefarious friends said they were banning left and right. One guy said 20+ of the people on his friends list got a nice "GTFO" from ST.



Yeah, I just saw ChillAura's response and I'm actually pretty impressed with how serious they are taking it - and so quickly. Also, Sonic Team requesting a permanent ban from Xbox Live as well? DAMN, they brinin' out the big guns.

[Ken_Silver]

*Talk about late to the party*

What? Is there seriously going to be a rollback on the PC/PS2 servers today? I planned on playing too. I just want to be sure before I waste my time.

[dc534]

Yeah they will most likely rolleback but I swear if I lose my stuff such as the agito I searched almost all the event, running true darkness and dark satallite for then I am going to have to say goodbye to PSU for good. It has been nearly a month since this glitch and though I did not glitch noobs and newbs to the game have and have better stuff and more mesetta than I have ever seen before. This saddens me because me and my friends have put almost 2000 hours + into this game and I finally feel satisfied finding my agito and most of the edges myself. If they take that away from me that is the last straw and I am gone for good. I will be playing WoW instead. I love you PSU if only you were not broken.

[dc534]

I mean 2000+ hours a piece not combined and I have had really no money my entire PSU career since I mostly just do runs and really dont sell anything. IF they try to pull something like rolleback the servers and give us all luck and another new and even cooler event. I still will not play. Although the event was great it was just too easy to level. People who have just started have gotten the stuff that cost me hundreds of runs to get. That is what this event has ttaught me. I can just wait untill the events to cash in. I mean I searched for the Kan Yu more than any of these Newbs same with all the cool weapons I had to actually work to get them and then I see all these 70000 numbers with all S rank palletes and it just drives me mad. and I still have not found one, they just do one event and are at mysame level and have 5-6 of them now. Sega sux but that is my opinion. I will admit though that I have not ran the event as much as them but still if they rollback the servers as many expect and I lose that Agito that I have spent almost a month to find I will bid this game farwell. Thanks for hearing my rant.

[Ken_Silver]

Ok fine, but how far back of a rollback? If it goes back to last thursday, I will be soo pissed off. I got two of my alts to hybrid class status due to the advantages of the winter event. That kind of progress can't be made up with my time schedule. The last Rollback was bad enough, but if ST pulls off one that far back, we're going to have problems.

[dc534]

Like I said I will be done with the game if my agito is gone after tommorows update

[Totti]

Why would they roll back the PS2 servers, let alone this late into it? If they do, i'm going to be fucking pissed as i just pulled out a 42% Ank Dedda. Oh well, lucky i got screens of it for compensation.

[bp_shoruko]

On 2008-01-30 14:00, Totti wrote:
Why would they roll back the PS2 servers, let alone this late into it? If they do, i'm going to be fucking pissed as i just pulled out a 42% Ank Dedda. Oh well, lucky i got screens of it for compensation.


I hear you, I just pulled out a46% dedda...if they roll us back to last week, then my alt loses nearly 1/2 of his levels and that [b] ank dedda never happened. that board is the only good thing I've gotten from this event, too...

[XGalvatronX]

Wait, wait, wait. Sega is asking for a LIVE ban as well? What are they f'ing out of their minds? It not like they hacked Live or even PSU. It was a bug that was ST's fault. I firmly believe that those who took advantage be removed, but there are no grounds for a LIVE ban.

Like someone else pointed out, this is basically the same Dupe method in the PSO. ST just hasn't learned to fix their mistakes, IN 8 F'ING years.

LIVE bans, if they actually get Microsoft to do that, I say F' ST and I'm glad people took advantage of it.

[chu-chu-chu]

I say if they get Live bans, HOORAY! Sonic Team!

I'm glad people get punished!

retributivism > you

LOL!

BWAHAHAHAHA - PIKA!

[stukasa]

On 2008-01-30 14:00, Totti wrote:
Why would they roll back the PS2 servers, let alone this late into it? If they do, i'm going to be fucking pissed as i just pulled out a 42% Ank Dedda. Oh well, lucky i got screens of it for compensation.


I'm sorry to say this but screenshots don't really mean anything. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif I had screenshots of the Ebrozike and Neiclaw I found right before the last rollback. I sent the screenshots to ST, politely asking if there was anything they could do to compensate me. The response I got was pretty much what I expected: nothing. I won't even bother asking to be compensated if it happens again.

The best we can hope for right now is that the problem gets resolved before a rollback is necessary.

[pikachief]

a mod posted something in 1 of teh forums saying they have no plans for roll back so go play your PSUYOU

[BFGfreak]

Shoot, I was kinda hoping that they would roll back the servers and give 360 users an extra week of winter event, with V1 drop increase.

[Yunfa]

BFGfreak, im guessing u didnt play much in the past few days? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif cus im one of the people that have put much hours into the game, and a rollback ALL the way from last Thurs. would make me super depressed. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Anduril]

On 2008-01-30 15:22, XGalvatronX wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. Sega is asking for a LIVE ban as well? What are they f'ing out of their minds? It not like they hacked Live or even PSU. It was a bug that was ST's fault. I firmly believe that those who took advantage be removed, but there are no grounds for a LIVE ban.

Like someone else pointed out, this is basically the same Dupe method in the PSO. ST just hasn't learned to fix their mistakes, IN 8 F'ING years.

LIVE bans, if they actually get Microsoft to do that, I say F' ST and I'm glad people took advantage of it.

Well, I think there is a solid position for a LIVE ban as well. Exploiting glitches in the game is a violation of the EULA of PSU, and in turn it is probably a clause in the EULA of LIVE. The fact that ST is taking steps to enforce the EULA is sweet music to my ears, even if they don't succeed in getting these people banned from LIVE.

[Syl]

On 2008-01-30 15:57, pikachief wrote:
a mod posted something in 1 of teh forums saying they have no plans for roll back so go play your PSUYOU



I guess the 360 purists have nothing going for them now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif Server merge imminent?

But I can get why they don't want to rollback. This glitch has been around for longer than a week so a week's worth of a rollback wouldn't exactly fix everything.

[youthisoverrated]

so, if we buy them and actually grind weapons with them will we be banned too? or how exactly is this working?

[beatrixkiddo]

"We just got a list of cheaters from Sonic team and have banned 30 accounts on the Xbox 360 and 2 accounts on PS2/PC, all of which were confirmed as exploiting the glitch massively.

More updates will come later tonight or tomorrow.

-ChillAura"

O:

[AC9breaker]

Do I have to press Z or R twice to do this???



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[beatrixkiddo]

Yes

[AC9breaker]

ITS NOT WORKING

[Retehi]

On 2008-01-30 18:55, AC9breaker wrote:
ITS NOT WORKING



Nothing ever works for you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[GuardianElite]

On 2008-01-30 18:55, AC9breaker wrote:
ITS NOT WORKING



man are you seriously asking for a ban?

[AC9breaker]

Fwoooooooooosh!

[Gogetah]

Blah. As an honest grinder seller, I've been accussed of using glitch to get them just because I put a lot. It's taken me this long to finally learn what they were talking about..... >_<

But yeah. This really messes up the economy and I'm against using it.

Is it confirmed that action is being taken against people for using it? I hope they can tell people who use it from the people they just think are using it.

[Powder Keg]

On 2008-01-30 22:24, Gogetah wrote:
Blah. As an honest grinder seller, I've been accussed of using glitch to get them just because I put a lot. It's taken me this long to finally learn what they were talking about..... >_<

But yeah. This really messes up the economy and I'm against using it.

Is it confirmed that action is being taken against people for using it? I hope they can tell people who use it from the people they just think are using it.


I'm sure they're not just banning anyone, all they probably have to look at is suspicious player data that wouldn't normally be there.

And seriously, everyone..I'm pretty sure an admin already said that there will not be a rollback, so I would stop worrying about it now. It's safe to say a rollback won't occur unless something catastrophic happens or a problem that is fixed within a day so that no one loses over a day's worth of playing time.

[lostinseganet]

On 2008-01-29 10:48, amtalx wrote:
I recommend pulling items out of your shops everyone...there's going to be A LOT of bogus meseta floating around. So...I guess we can do that PC/PS2 and 360 server merge now right? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

ohhh that would be soo nice (^_^)

[Akaimizu]

You so don't want that. Not with the robot bug and stuff unresolved. You'll get silly people trying to invoke the memory-leak slowdown just to crash everybody else's machine. (You know, there's a good chance, that if a slowdown person joins your party, the game has problems syncing what's happening and can crash the people who are still going full speed. I've seen it happen, with 4 or 5 witnesses.)

So yeah, you do not want the robot bug in existance if a merge was to happen.

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