No update for 360 users today........

[youthisoverrated]

http://www.phantasystaruniverse.com/news_item.php?item=nid29

We regretably were forced to postpone the Xbox 360 Title Update as well as new content delivery for today because we found an unexpected bug in Title update relating issue.

We apologize for the inconvenience and disappointment this postponment has caused, but the Title Update was necessary for new content delivery. We will be announcing the new delivery date as soon as it is possible.

Thank you for understanding.

ok.......

[SATatami]

Pwned? >.>

[DEM_CIG]

WTF>.>... this sux.

[Pharaoh007]

I'd think they'd be testing this before hand that way when the update comes it's already ready for installment

[Anduril]

Yeah. There was a post on this earlier, but it got moved to rants since it got full of people complaining. But as long as we get the update and stay on schedule with PC/PS2 I'm going to be ok with waiting.

[DEM_CIG]

So do we still have the winter events... or not ? is it just the title update or the whole thing ?

[Pharaoh007]

you can still choose winter event in the mission counter so i assume you can do the winter event.

[Anduril]

On 2008-02-01 08:23, DEM_CIG wrote:
So do we still have the winter events... or not ? is it just the title update or the whole thing ?

It's basically as if it was a normal maintenance, so Winter Event is still up.

[youthisoverrated]

whole thing i believe. and look at it this way at least they didn't give it to us and then BOOM rollback cus of it...

[DEM_CIG]

o ok

[DEM_CIG]

Noo.. there better not be another roll back... ill be b_tching 4 atleast a week >.>

[McLaughlin]

Methinks we'll be fucked out of next week's update as well, if previous Title Updates are any indicator of how long it'll take them to fix it.

[Anduril]

On 2008-02-01 08:30, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
Methinks we'll be fucked out of next week's update as well, if previous Title Updates are any indicator of how long it'll take them to fix it.

You're not predicting an...an.....Eternal Christmas incident, are you?

[DEM_CIG]

On 2008-02-01 08:30, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
Methinks we'll be fucked out of next week's update as well, if previous Title Updates are any indicator of how long it'll take them to fix it.


agreed... thats so stupid...>.>

[DEM_CIG]

On 2008-02-01 08:31, Anduril wrote:
You're not predicting an...an.....Eternal Christmas incident, are you?

[/quote]
woludn't surprise me...

[Pharaoh007]

I hope they atleast fix it before the weekend ends...

[Anduril]

On 2008-02-01 08:34, Pharaoh007 wrote:
I hope they atleast fix it before the weekend ends...


They'll probably fix it by today's end, but odds are it will take more time to push it through for approval again.

[parabolee]

So is the triple XP still in effect?

I ask because I am coming back to PSU tonight and thought I missed the 3x XP

[Anduril]

On 2008-02-01 08:38, parabolee wrote:
So is the triple XP still in effect?

I ask because I am coming back to PSU tonight and thought I missed the 3x XP

For the Winter Event missions on the GC 5th floor, yeah, but only here on our poor forsaken 360 server...

[amtalx]

On 2008-02-01 08:31, Anduril wrote:

On 2008-02-01 08:30, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
Methinks we'll be fucked out of next week's update as well, if previous Title Updates are any indicator of how long it'll take them to fix it.

You're not predicting an...an.....Eternal Christmas incident, are you?



I hate you for bringing that up. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[McLaughlin]

On 2008-02-01 08:31, Anduril wrote:

On 2008-02-01 08:30, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
Methinks we'll be fucked out of next week's update as well, if previous Title Updates are any indicator of how long it'll take them to fix it.

You're not predicting an...an.....Eternal Christmas incident, are you?



Coincidently we even have a theme lobby similar to PSOX's Christmas lobby.

[Anduril]

On 2008-02-01 08:40, amtalx wrote:

On 2008-02-01 08:31, Anduril wrote:

On 2008-02-01 08:30, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
Methinks we'll be fucked out of next week's update as well, if previous Title Updates are any indicator of how long it'll take them to fix it.

You're not predicting an...an.....Eternal Christmas incident, are you?



I hate you for bringing that up. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Sorry, I just had to, Obsidian_Knight's post just sounded like that since ST said that they can't update until the Title patch is released.

[DEM_CIG]

Ugh Noo...

[Kietrinia]

So wait, the event is still up on XBox but not up on PC/PS2? I didn't get a chance to look this morning.

[DEM_CIG]

apparently. I haven't been on... wont be on till 4 or 5 today...



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[McLaughlin]

On 2008-02-01 08:52, Kietrinia wrote:
So wait, the event is still up on XBox but not up on PC/PS2? I didn't get a chance to look this morning.



Yeah.

and if it's not fixed by next maintenance, I'm dubbing it the Indefinite Winter Event.

[Pharaoh007]

Winter event will be taken down as soon as this weeks update is installed

[RedMussel]

On 2008-02-01 09:03, Pharaoh007 wrote:
Winter event will be taken down as soon as this weeks update is installed

PHARAOH007 INSTALL IT NAO!!!!

[dc534]

Well this sux my routine of playing all weekend maitanence free is not going to happen because you know sega will screw us and update it at their earliest convinience, which will be like on saturday, my day off.

[Anduril]

On 2008-02-01 09:07, dc534 wrote:
Well this sux my routine of playing all weekend maitanence free is not going to happen because you know sega will screw us and update it at their earliest convinience, which will be like on saturday, my day off.


Or they may postpone it until the next update period, to not inconvenience themselves.

[NPCMook]

On 2008-02-01 09:07, dc534 wrote:
Well this sux my routine of playing all weekend maitanence free is not going to happen because you know sega will screw us and update it at their earliest convinience, which will be like on saturday, my day off.


So play offline... or maybe another game? You know Turok came out recently

[Pharaoh007]

PHARAOH007 INSTALL IT NAO!!!!

Huh?

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[Africa]

how sweet this is more winter event!!!!!seriously though my plans for psu today are shot as this means robo-lag is still here. i hope this update actually comes soon as it might take them awhile with everything it entailed. i only wish i didn't know how long the title update had been prepared for.........but let the endless winter event continue. i'm sure someone in uni 1-3 are pretty happy not i but it doesn't matter now.

[Xtian913]

On 2008-02-01 09:09, Anduril wrote:
Or they may postpone it until the next update period, to not inconvenience themselves.



Yup, I bet they will just roll everything out on the 7th - IF they even have it fixed by then.

[WHlTEKNIGHT]

with sega screwing up atleast once a month now and their answer/compensation is 3* luck for a few weeks do u all think that at this rate we are gonna be having 3* luck for ever ^.^

[DEM_CIG]

i would find more rather then not screw up... i find more stuff anyway with lower luck. >.>

[chibiLegolas]

Calm yourselves. They seem to have a lot on their plate ATM. They're dealing with banning ppl, making SURE the mechgun glitch is truly fixed this time around, etc.

This isn't just a simple event update. They mentioned that we'd have to install a patch and will forever see it listed on our titles screen. In the mean time, just go enjoy the extended winter event. It's not gonna be there for long, and you're gonna notice what it's like to see 0-1 star drop rates again.
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Akaimizu]

I'm perfectly calm. Heck, this is one of those signs that ST isn't just willing to throw out whatever not-well-tested code they have. Taking it back to a drawing board for a little more fix and testing is better than we had for a few updates. It shows that they're willing to do the extra work.

On the other hand, maybe I will get a chance to max out my primary's character level before the event is over.




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[Kylie]

Yowch.... >_>;

[Pharaoh007]

Since it doesn't seem to put much work into some of the game, then I will wait for the thorough glitch removals and for good updates that they do put work into, (such as this one).

[mvffin]

has anyone else noticed a drop increase? first three missions i ran, here's what happen.
~Skyly~ Recieved
[b] Blackbull 10*

(somejerk) received
[b] mugunruk 10*

Mistress Vulcana received
[b] Hyper Viper 10*

so either i'm just lucky, or maybe the drop rates are up or something. I haven't gotten anything from the event since like friday.

[APEXi]

sega should really look into hiring some smarter monkeys..

[Anduril]

On 2008-02-01 10:24, mvffin wrote:
has anyone else noticed a drop increase? first three missions i ran, here's what happen.
~Skyly~ Recieved
[b] Blackbull 10*

(somejerk) received
[b] mugunruk 10*

Mistress Vulcana received
[b] Hyper Viper 10*

so either i'm just lucky, or maybe the drop rates are up or something. I haven't gotten anything from the event since like friday.

You're just having a good luck day. The drop increase is a part of the Title Update.

[Zorak000]

On 2008-02-01 08:31, Anduril wrote:

On 2008-02-01 08:30, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
Methinks we'll be fucked out of next week's update as well, if previous Title Updates are any indicator of how long it'll take them to fix it.

You're not predicting an...an.....Eternal Christmas incident, are you?




that would be an EPIC FAIL (lol PSO Xbox)

[Akaimizu]

Possibly. But I think the biggest issue with Episode 1 & 2 was the great feature of Split screen 4 player, and the ability to take your character on memory cards to play on other systems. When you have friends who love PSO, many never felt you needed a hunter's license. They lost quite a few people due to that aspect.

The Eternal Christmas was crazy. But I don't remember PSO really getting any true updates that weren't mainly satisfied by having PSO 1 & 2, already.

[Pharaoh007]

I know I never got a hunters liscense because me and my friends had no reason to, we were fine playing with each other,( Plus I kept hearing that online was hacked like crazy). In fact I prboably wouldn't have online now if offline multiplayer was available.




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[-Crokar-]

not the first time this has happened nor will it be the last.

[Xtian913]

What's this Eternal Christmas you guys are taking about? They didn't update for months or something?

[Itchee]

On 2008-02-01 11:19, Xtian913 wrote:
What's this Eternal Christmas you guys are taking about? They didn't update for months or something?



Surely, youre joking....

[Yusaku_Kudou]

On 2008-02-01 11:19, Xtian913 wrote:
What's this Eternal Christmas you guys are taking about? They didn't update for months or something?



No, on PSO Xbox it's been Xmas for several years now... they never updated. It's still online to boot.

[Xtian913]

On 2008-02-01 11:22, Itchee wrote:

On 2008-02-01 11:19, Xtian913 wrote:
What's this Eternal Christmas you guys are taking about? They didn't update for months or something?



Surely, youre joking....



I never played PSO, hence my asking.


On 2008-02-01 11:29, Yusaku_Kudou wrote:

On 2008-02-01 11:19, Xtian913 wrote:
What's this Eternal Christmas you guys are taking about? They didn't update for months or something?



No, on PSO Xbox it's been Xmas for several years now... they never updated. It's still online to boot.



Whoa. lol.

[JAFO22000]

On 2008-02-01 10:11, Akaimizu wrote:
I'm perfectly calm. Heck, this is one of those signs that ST isn't just willing to throw out whatever not-well-tested code they have. Taking it back to a drawing board for a little more fix and testing is better than we had for a few updates. It shows that they're willing to do the extra work.

On the other hand, maybe I will get a chance to max out my primary's character level before the event is over.




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It shows that they're willing to do the extra work???!!!

Why oh why would they announce that things are going to be fixed and that we are getting an update only to redact everything at zero hour? Doesn't sound like they did the "extra work" to me. Sounds like they don't know what they are doing over there. Much like leaving the HIVE test mission online a month ago and being considerably slow to react to cheating (people were doing the grinder glitch LONG before they said anything about it, not to mention the MG glitch that was supposed to have been fixed). I won't even bring up their lack of communication they have with their game's monthly subscribers.

I feel this is an abomination and only goes to further my lack of faith in STs ability to manage their own game (which isn't even that popular! I mean, imagine if this game had a huge following like WoW!)

[ANIMEniac]

AH! i wanted to forget the horrors of eternal x-mas ::demented jingle bells plays::

CURSE YOU!!!!!

[sildragon]

I think what makes most of us so mad is the fact of not knowing when we will actually get the update. They should of had tested it before announcing it!!! So we all get to sit here and wait for them to not fix it for the next week or so.

[Pharaoh007]

I think what makes most of us so mad is the fact of not knowing when we will actually get the update. They should of had tested it before announcing it!!! So we all get to sit here and wait for them to not fix it for the next week or so.
I agree I would really like to know when this update is coming. The winter event is a drag.

[chu-chu-chu]

Kewl! LOL!

Double boss box drops for more time! I still haven't got a rattlesnake yet, whcih is weird since i gt so many increased rate dubble boss box drops.

oh well. "V.o"

oh, nd i have three star luck still to use with my s+10s i just found real cheap in some player's shopp! Thanks, [xXx]WrEkKa[xXx] !!!! your shop is number one-o-o-o-o!

[D1ABOLIK]

On 2008-02-01 11:16, Pharaoh007 wrote:
I know I never got a hunters liscense because me and my friends had no reason to, we were fine playing with each other,( Plus I kept hearing that online was hacked like crazy). In fact I prboably wouldn't have online now if offline multiplayer was available.




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Agreed. If PSU had split screen, and extra mode had even half the content online does, i would not even play online. It would also need variances in mission difficulty (C-S). I always thought it was lame i can play with someone in Japan but not someone in the same room as me.

[Pharaoh007]

I always thought it was lame i can play with someone in Japan but not someone in the same room as me.
I'm saving this quote.

[Aries2384]

And thus it was that ST learned their lesson with PSO. They wanted more money, so they cut out multiplayer mode. So now, if you want to multiplay you have to pay. Fuck you too sega. I say if sega wants us to play, they should pay us.

[chaoskila]

o jeez

[Anduril]

On 2008-02-01 13:42, Aries2384 wrote:
I say if sega wants us to play, they should pay us.

That's an........interesting theory.

[chibiLegolas]

On 2008-02-01 11:19, Xtian913 wrote:
What's this Eternal Christmas you guys are taking about? They didn't update for months or something?



lol. Ahh.... if it only WERE a few months....

Wow. I can't believe the servers are still up. I heard they were, but kept disbelieving. I'd assume you still have to buy their hunter's linsense on the old xbox?

It's just the blue burst for PC that is being shut down and you can't buy the HL anymore, right?

Darn it. I should of bought xbox's HL just so I have PSO to play Thursday nights during maintenance.

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[sildragon]

So does anyone have any clue as to when us 360 people will get our update????

[beatrixkiddo]

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=168675&forum=20&61

[sildragon]

so we are F'cked til they fix it.....

[Kurai_Inago]

You know, it wouldn't bother me as much if they gave us an Update on their progress every so often. "We'll Fix It Later, Bye" Is a tad bit unsettling.

[Seira7]

On 2008-02-01 13:48, Anduril wrote:

On 2008-02-01 13:42, Aries2384 wrote:
I say if sega wants us to play, they should pay us.

That's an........interesting theory.



It would make SEGA very popular however! XD

[Bman40]

'sigh' this is what they always do

[RedMussel]

First of all both the North American and Japanese testers checked the Title Update thoroughly over the last month on partnernet. The issues appeared only when it was put on Xbox live. This is the way online content is tested for the Xbox 360. The problem is both technical and political and we do not have the power to force MS to change their bureaucracy.

We have been told by Sonic Team that they have pushed MS to get the delayed Title Update approved for next weeks maintenance. When I get an updated schedule I will let you know if you will also be getting the Valentines content, as we want to get caught up to our schedule as soon as possible.

-ChillAura

[Yusaku_Kudou]

Next week..............

[jobber]

PSO community on XB is still kicking

kinda hacked to death tho

[JAFO22000]

On 2008-02-01 15:25, RedMussel wrote:

First of all both the North American and Japanese testers checked the Title Update thoroughly over the last month on partnernet. The issues appeared only when it was put on Xbox live. This is the way online content is tested for the Xbox 360. The problem is both technical and political and we do not have the power to force MS to change their bureaucracy.

We have been told by Sonic Team that they have pushed MS to get the delayed Title Update approved for next weeks maintenance. When I get an updated schedule I will let you know if you will also be getting the Valentines content, as we want to get caught up to our schedule as soon as possible.

-ChillAura



You have GOT to be kidding me! They didn't learn anything about the MS "bureaucracy" the last time this happened (when it took them 2 months to get us the "deaths don't affect your rank" update that PC/PS2 users received)? They've been working on this for a month and just now found out that it's not compatible with Xbox live? What a bunch of bullshit.

[Elley]

On 2008-02-01 16:10, JAFO22000 wrote:

On 2008-02-01 15:25, RedMussel wrote:

First of all both the North American and Japanese testers checked the Title Update thoroughly over the last month on partnernet. The issues appeared only when it was put on Xbox live. This is the way online content is tested for the Xbox 360. The problem is both technical and political and we do not have the power to force MS to change their bureaucracy.

We have been told by Sonic Team that they have pushed MS to get the delayed Title Update approved for next weeks maintenance. When I get an updated schedule I will let you know if you will also be getting the Valentines content, as we want to get caught up to our schedule as soon as possible.

-ChillAura



You have GOT to be kidding me! They didn't learn anything about the MS "bureaucracy" the last time this happened (when it took them 2 months to get us the "deaths don't affect your rank" update that PC/PS2 users received)? They've been working on this for a month and just now found out that it's not compatible with Xbox live? What a bunch of bullshit.



Oh how Sega has fallen. I recall when they didn't suck. That's really showing my age.



0:)

[beatrixkiddo]

Sounds like MS won't let them run a test server on the LIVE servers, so they can't know in advance how their updates will function on the LIVE servers... maybe?

[chu-chu-chu]

"political reasons"

lol.

[Anduril]

On 2008-02-01 16:23, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Sounds like MS won't let them run a test server on the LIVE servers, so they can't know in advance how their updates will function on the LIVE servers... maybe?

That is pretty much what it sounds like to me as well. I guess MS just gives them limited use of LIVE, if any, for content until it is meant to be released.

Also sounds like, if we don't get the Valentine's Day lobby next week, we might get it during a week that PC/PS2 just has maintenance, since it doesn't sound like they want to de-sync the update schedule much.

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[SonKevin]

Sonic Team hates us. Everyone who plays PSU is a masochist.

[JAFO22000]

On 2008-02-01 16:23, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Sounds like MS won't let them run a test server on the LIVE servers, so they can't know in advance how their updates will function on the LIVE servers... maybe?



It sounds like that is what they are saying, but I would assume that MS wouldn't be so stringent as to not let publishers test things out on the Live server before allowing it. It would be unreasonable to assume that MS needs to give approval to every patch, yet won't let publishers test said patch in a Live environment. If this were the case, how could a publisher EVER be assured that the work they did to create content or a patch would be compatible?? It would seem very inefficient to expect all publishers to know exactly what will work and what won't. My suspicion is that the programers at Sega submitted their patch without proper testing and MS found a problem with it.

[Seira7]

Oh how Sega has fallen. I recall when they didn't suck. That's really showing my age.



0:)



Yea...that thought occured to me when I saw what new games (game) Ulala and Beat were in - tennis.

[Lykos]

I have two simple words for this situation.

Fuck this!

[McLaughlin]

"...Next week's maintenance..."

Man, did I call that or what.

We're fucked.

[SATatami]

On 2008-02-01 17:48, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
"...Next week's maintenance..."

Man, did I call that or what.

We're fucked.



Fucked? How so? you get winter event for an extra WEEK and hop straight into Valentine's.

[McLaughlin]

I, for one, was sick of the Winter Event when the Beta came out. And they said they'll "try" to have the patch ready for next week's maintenance. Which, in non-corporate language, means that we're likely screwed because of how slowly Sega seems to have their patches go through Certification.

Not to mention they should have tested its compatibility with Live beforehand, instead of assuming they were competent enough to do it right the first time.



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[Sekani]

I swear Sega has more problems with "Microsoft certification" than every other publisher and developer on the planet combined.

The current Sonic Team is an embarrassment to the legacy of their name.

Lucky for them I have too much time invested into PSU to quit right now, and I still enjoy the game enough to keep playing it, but there's almost no chance that I'll ever buy another Phantasy Star Online game again.

[Eeyore]

On 2008-02-01 17:21, JAFO22000 wrote:

On 2008-02-01 16:23, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Sounds like MS won't let them run a test server on the LIVE servers, so they can't know in advance how their updates will function on the LIVE servers... maybe?



It sounds like that is what they are saying, but I would assume that MS wouldn't be so stringent as to not let publishers test things out on the Live server before allowing it. It would be unreasonable to assume that MS needs to give approval to every patch, yet won't let publishers test said patch in a Live environment. If this were the case, how could a publisher EVER be assured that the work they did to create content or a patch would be compatible?? It would seem very inefficient to expect all publishers to know exactly what will work and what won't. My suspicion is that the programers at Sega submitted their patch without proper testing and MS found a problem with it.



Patches and arcade games get tested on PartnerNet which is an alternate Xbox Live network that only devs have access too. Sega is saying it worked on PartnerNet, but didn't work on the real Live servers.

[SATatami]

On 2008-02-01 18:27, Eeyore wrote:

On 2008-02-01 17:21, JAFO22000 wrote:

On 2008-02-01 16:23, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Sounds like MS won't let them run a test server on the LIVE servers, so they can't know in advance how their updates will function on the LIVE servers... maybe?



It sounds like that is what they are saying, but I would assume that MS wouldn't be so stringent as to not let publishers test things out on the Live server before allowing it. It would be unreasonable to assume that MS needs to give approval to every patch, yet won't let publishers test said patch in a Live environment. If this were the case, how could a publisher EVER be assured that the work they did to create content or a patch would be compatible?? It would seem very inefficient to expect all publishers to know exactly what will work and what won't. My suspicion is that the programers at Sega submitted their patch without proper testing and MS found a problem with it.



Patches and arcade games get tested on PartnerNet which is an alternate Xbox Live network that only devs have access too. Sega is saying it worked on PartnerNet, but didn't work on the real Live servers.









WTF, Eeyore. Why aren't you being all emo and looking for your tail? D:

[Zorak000]

f this. I am going to go play something else for a week.

[-Crokar-]

ill play when my freinds play. ill be playing rock band 90% of the time

[Pharaoh007]

There is no way I can put up for winter event for another week.... Even though the update today was small I was looking forward to it. I wanted to move planets, get some frying pans do the new S2's....

[unicorn]

You guys get an event with dfajkdfla EXP to lvl your alts.

Next week you guys will be up to par with the rest of us. So whats the problem?

And maybe if your community wasn't full of glitch kiddies, you wouldn't have this "problem". Now who has the unstable economy?

[-Crokar-]

our economy really hasnt changed much. its always sucked.

[JAFO22000]

On 2008-02-01 22:38, super_luu wrote:
You guys get an event with dfajkdfla EXP to lvl your alts.

The event was great, but we were all looking forward to the new content.



Next week you guys will be up to par with the rest of us. So whats the problem?

Next week at the LEAST. And the problem is that ST can't seem to get it right for the 360 community.



And maybe if your community wasn't full of glitch kiddies, you wouldn't have this "problem". Now who has the unstable economy?


Your community was full of glitchers WAY before ours was. Only reason it's more of an issue on the 360 is that the PC/PS2 servers are ghost towns. Our economy is still stable, BTW.

[Elley]

The 360's economy hasn't changed at all as far as I can tell. Sorry, PC/PS2... we're still better.



0:)

[Chaos320]

heh i smell a very bad and deadly text war starting