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Zalinian
Feb 14, 2008, 11:33 PM
Got 3 luck today and decided to grind some weps. Using a A+6 Grinder went to grind a 9* wep, and the stupid NPC broke it on 2/10 Grind.......



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Zalinian
Feb 14, 2008, 11:34 PM
Edit: Make that twice she broke in on the 2nd grind......

Silver_Wyrm
Feb 14, 2008, 11:36 PM
I had 2* luck and broke and s-rank with a +7 on the first grind. x.x Your just unlucky

RedMussel
Feb 14, 2008, 11:36 PM
A+10's are better..

Silver_Wyrm
Feb 14, 2008, 11:38 PM
On 2008-02-14 20:36, RedMussel wrote:
A+10's are better..


still a "very high" synth Ive gotten several a ranks to 10/10 and usually only use a+10 on the last 3 or 4 grinds

Zalinian
Feb 14, 2008, 11:38 PM
i can't get anything past 3 or 4 grind, even with 3 luck and high grinders..... it says chances of success are very high, but its like they very low.

Silver_Wyrm
Feb 14, 2008, 11:39 PM
On 2008-02-14 20:38, Zalinian wrote:
i can't get anything past 3 or 4 grind, even with 3 luck and high grinders..... it says chances of success are very high, but its like they very low.


haha, I know the feeling, sometimes I just cant seem to grind ANYTHING, I had a weapon break on the second grind four times in a row before. Sometimes random just gets the better of luck

Zalinian
Feb 14, 2008, 11:42 PM
been breaking everything so far, can't get anything past 3 or 4......... "very high chance of success" what is sega's definition of very high? To me very high chance means like 90-95%+

HFlowen
Feb 14, 2008, 11:46 PM
I used to have a chart, probably bookmarked on another computer.

Anyway, very high ranges from like 70 to 90 percent. Also, better grinders >>>>>> photon luck.

Zalinian
Feb 14, 2008, 11:49 PM
Yea I think I'm done breaking things tonight. Gonna wait till i get tons of 8-10 grinders then do it again.

Larusu
Feb 14, 2008, 11:57 PM
Remember, it isn't luck, it's SUPER HOLY LIGHT. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

NNEONateDogg
Feb 15, 2008, 12:08 AM
On 2008-02-14 20:57, Larusu wrote:
Remember, it isn't luck, it's SUPER HOLY LIGHT. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Ah yes, the Holy Light. "May the Holy Light Guide You". I've heard that many times from the woman at the counter at GUARDIANS Colony 5th Floor.

cloud805
Feb 15, 2008, 01:13 AM
chh i have worser luck failed two 92% back to back

Silver_Wyrm
Feb 15, 2008, 02:12 AM
On 2008-02-14 22:13, cloud805 wrote:
chh i have worser luck failed two 92% back to back


because I stole your luck :3 succeeded 5 92% all over 30%. All your luck are belong to us!

cloud805
Feb 15, 2008, 02:43 AM
what oh where do u live buddy ill take ur harddrive man im crazy like that and then ill come back and nicely ask u for ur gamertag account oh well im busting huge skate session this whole week will make up for the fail

milka
Feb 15, 2008, 07:44 AM
On 2008-02-14 23:43, cloud805 wrote:
what oh where do u live buddy ill take ur harddrive man im crazy like that and then ill come back and nicely ask u for ur gamertag account oh well im busting huge skate session this whole week will make up for the fail



Your sign is too big >.<

ShuttleXpC
Feb 15, 2008, 08:56 AM
No, luck has nothing to do with. The people who programmed this game suck at math, plain and simple. I've grinded a TON of A rank weapons, all with lvl 3 luck and the appropriate leveled grinders (aka Very high on every possible synth to get to +5). One day I grinded exactly 32 A rank weapons, ranging from guns to wands for my various jobs. I had 196 or so grinds succeed (counting the ones after fails that broke my weapons down) and I had 63 fails (some were failing on +2 grinds lol). Tell me how that is even possible when every single one of the synths was very high which the success range is in the 75-89% range.

I can explain it in a few words. Learn to add SEGA.

EMPYREAN
Feb 15, 2008, 09:01 AM
well its a part of the game.some times it breaks after the 2nd uppgrade, other times att the 9th(thats probably the worst) its all pure luck.

ShuttleXpC
Feb 15, 2008, 09:03 AM
There is no such thing as luck in a game involving real life numbers. Its a based %, SEGA cant just create a luck generator >.>;

Either something is screwy with their grind success rates, or they need to learn to add. Either way something is broken with the grind system.



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ShuttleXpC
Feb 15, 2008, 09:07 AM
BTW, I usually only grind to +5 anyways. The additional attack/PP from most weapons upgrades totally negates the fact how much money and good weapons you will waste getting there. +5 is a nice number =p. Especially considering a 50% weapon is hard to come by.

Silver_Wyrm
Feb 15, 2008, 09:09 AM
Its called random. seriously. However I am interested in exact % of Very High and High, because I failt hem often enough its annoying, very high should be 90%+ ( I dont care if they change it so we see "high" more often to reflect that) but seeing what your real chances are would be nice

SkyCrusader
Feb 15, 2008, 10:05 AM
I broke my Gudda Skeala first grind with a s+7 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

pikachief
Feb 15, 2008, 10:32 AM
my friend with 3* luck broke his tuma going fromm 1-2!

its like around 99.87 or something success rate too and its the second time he's done it XD

DragonStorm
Feb 15, 2008, 01:20 PM
Geez stupid mouse. lol anyways the rates are: Read closely

Very High=90%
High=70%
fifty/fifty=50%
low=30%
very low=10%

There ya have it.

Aka
Feb 15, 2008, 02:02 PM
This was posted quite a while ago.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee11/Akatora224/psu6090.png

Note: This is for A-rank weapons only.