de colte line...what the....

[chaostroop3]

this looks messed up... 1 def?1 ment? and 300eva.... and look at the rareity stars its all gold.... i dont get it>.> (im on 360 so if thare def from these than forgive me http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/2/1637/de_colte_line/#pic



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[Marche]

it has a set bonus with the C rank rifle "sniper"

that makes it into a decent weapon.

and a decent armor.

[RegulusHikari]

It's there for its 20 STA.

[chaostroop3]

but.... 1 def >.>

[chaostroop3]

but still.....1 def

[Marche]

if you equip the sniper, it is boosted by 275+


oh wait, thats the attack.





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[jayster]

dont get hit?

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[DEM_CIG]

Ur point... if u complianing about the def then u should not have got it.

[panzer_unit]

On 2008-02-22 08:33, chaostroop3 wrote:
but still.....1 def


Like def does anything.

[Doh42]

The difference between a "1 def" and A rank armor is about the same as the difference between a fortefighter and fighgunner as far as DFP goes. Since fighgunners are able to play the game, I'm assuming wearing that armor won't insta-kill anyone.

[AerisZeal]

On 2008-02-22 08:30, chaostroop3 wrote:
this looks messed up... 1 def?1 ment? and 300eva.... and look at the rareity stars its all gold.... i dont get it>.> (im on 360 so if thare def from these than forgive me http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/2/1637/de_colte_line/#pic

It only has 1 DFP to balance out the 20 END it gives you, which coupled with your natural STA makes you near status resistant. Gotta balence it somewhere. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

As for the gold stars, thats a shot from before it came out, a hacked one, from a long long time ago.

[chaostroop3]

idident get it i just looked it up.....igeuss youwont get hit much but what if youdo?dooooooooooooooooooooom

[Fresh]

Im not really a gunner but the set bonus with the c rank rifle makes the c rank stronger than the killer elite with no grinds isnt that kind of a nice thing to have?

[Weeaboolits]

If this armor really is S-rank, I'm so picking one up for my guntecher.

[Rashiid]

That's just asking to be techer armor. With our EVA and crappy defence anyway, we still get our asses handed to with high armor, but we block like crazy. With this armor, we could possibly block magic! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[HolyOrderSaek]

I'm a fortefighter, and will never use that rifle, but the massive Stamina boost is really convincing me to give this a try... FFs get massive defense anyways, I won't miss it much.

[panzer_unit]

I'm sorta glad I didn't manage to trade anything for a Shinowa Line up to now, DeColte almost has the same Evade (more with set) and owns it for Stamina.

[Weeaboolits]

I just got it, my GT doesn't have high enough dfp to use it yet, though.

[Mystil]

This would be ideal if it had body slot.

[Sekani]

1 DEF and 1 MST, great!! Those two stats were pretty useless as far as armor goes anyway. More notable are the 20 STA, which will make you invulnerable to low-level status effects, and the whopping 300 evade. This is probably good stuff for acro classes.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but with 1 DEF... this would theoretically be the only armor in the game worth making neutral element, wouldn't it?

[_Vyser_]

you can't make it, you trade for it

[Sekani]

I thought you traded for the board. Ah well.

[Shardio]

On 2008-02-22 08:51, Rashiid wrote:
That's just asking to be techer armor. With our EVA and crappy defence anyway, we still get our asses handed to with high armor, but we block like crazy. With this armor, we could possibly block magic! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif


I already block techs quite often. Wearing a Yamata-senba on a lvl 84 Male Newman WT15. Nothing special, I've been blocking them since forever.

[Anduril]

On 2008-02-22 10:23, Shardio wrote:

On 2008-02-22 08:51, Rashiid wrote:
That's just asking to be techer armor. With our EVA and crappy defence anyway, we still get our asses handed to with high armor, but we block like crazy. With this armor, we could possibly block magic! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif


I already block techs quite often. Wearing a Yamata-senba on a lvl 84 Male Newman WT15. Nothing special, I've been blocking them since forever.

I call h@x. Negate TECHs, maybe, but Block them with EVPIMPOSSIBLE!!! (Well except that light ball, and Vanda's Damfoie)

[panzer_unit]

On 2008-02-22 10:04, Mystil wrote:
This would be ideal if it had body slot.


It's not bad without it... right now everyone's equipping /Resist units on other armors and the 20 STA means you don't need those any more, so no loss really.

I wish it had an Extra slot but my cast's learned to live without them on Rabol Gant & Rabol Asted.

[Mystil]

Oh, I hadnt thought about that! Yea I'm gonna get this for my AF. Gonna try and get 4 of them. See how badly I get owned vs how much I evade.



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[Zorafim]

If I'm not mistaken, defense and resistance don't do anything anyway. Evasion kind of does, and that status resistance should be noticable. Considering that much, I think the only downside is that I can't SUV with it. Even the body slot won't be missed, since this should give you resistance against every status effect.

[RedCoKid]

On 2008-02-22 10:12, Sekani wrote:
and the whopping 300 evade. This is probably good stuff for acro classes.
Oh yeah! I once blocked a pair of bil de vear spins from hitting my party thanks to 42% ground shinowa line (312 eva, 1245 total). I'm really anxious to try out DCL. lol

[DarkEliteRico]

On 2008-02-22 08:45, Fresh wrote:
Im not really a gunner but the set bonus with the c rank rifle makes the c rank stronger than the killer elite with no grinds isnt that kind of a nice thing to have?

It's better than a 10/10 Phantom rifle by about 190 ATP roughly, but minus about the same for PP. Shit much cheaper to make/grind then a 9* any day. If you're a gunner how often do you get hit anyways?

[_Vyser_]

On 2008-02-22 11:37, DarkEliteRico wrote:

On 2008-02-22 08:45, Fresh wrote:
Im not really a gunner but the set bonus with the c rank rifle makes the c rank stronger than the killer elite with no grinds isnt that kind of a nice thing to have?

It's better than a 10/10 Phantom rifle by about 190 ATP roughly, but minus about the same for PP. Shit much cheaper to make/grind then a 9* any day. If you're a gunner how often do you get hit anyways?


Only thing I can think of is some of the ranged attacks from various bosses.

[necman]

On 2008-02-22 11:37, DarkEliteRico wrote:

On 2008-02-22 08:45, Fresh wrote:
Im not really a gunner but the set bonus with the c rank rifle makes the c rank stronger than the killer elite with no grinds isnt that kind of a nice thing to have?

It's better than a 10/10 Phantom rifle by about 190 ATP roughly, but minus about the same for PP. Shit much cheaper to make/grind then a 9* any day. If you're a gunner how often do you get hit anyways?


Thanks to the countless hunters in every party quit often. It seems throwing enemies this way and that is just about every hunters dream. Unless I spend all my time dodging instead of firing.(yay what a thrill that would be). Why does everyone assume gunners don't get hit. WE don't stand 10 rooms back firing at mobs. Our riffles suck unless it's a solo run cause then that se really pays off.(Flying enemies and a few others change the circumstances of riffles) Our job should be safe but I can't count the amount of times I had a whole mob pinned against a corner just so some hunter could use some pa that sends them all over the room.

edit(this was not an anger post just thought I should clear that up)

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[Mysterious-G]

On 2008-02-22 10:04, Mystil wrote:
This would be ideal if it had body slot.



So true. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[DoubleJG]

Well, seeing how it's a gunner armor, you're supposed to be in the distance sniping things with your sniper... so, the 1 def shouldn't make too much of a difference.

[Jife_Jifremok]

Since the EVP is high, it may work well with shotgunners. Does DFP even DO anything? Also, I tend to get hit a lot since dodging's usually a waste of time. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[pikachief]

On 2008-02-22 08:41, chaostroop3 wrote:
idident get it i just looked it up.....igeuss youwont get hit much but what if youdo?dooooooooooooooooooooom



defense hardly does anything, adn if u do get hit you'll block it, if its a spell at least u wont get SE'd! lol

and u need 31 STA to not be SE'd by anything, which is what u will have if u wear this.

So this is good for a FF i think. always up in their face so u can block and never get Status effected.

[GuardianElite]

too bad roll back lol

[pionear]

Now if only ST can fix the Line Shield Block animation on the PS2...

[DarkEliteRico]

On 2008-02-22 12:08, necman wrote:

On 2008-02-22 11:37, DarkEliteRico wrote:

On 2008-02-22 08:45, Fresh wrote:
Im not really a gunner but the set bonus with the c rank rifle makes the c rank stronger than the killer elite with no grinds isnt that kind of a nice thing to have?

It's better than a 10/10 Phantom rifle by about 190 ATP roughly, but minus about the same for PP. Shit much cheaper to make/grind then a 9* any day. If you're a gunner how often do you get hit anyways?


Thanks to the countless hunters in every party quit often. It seems throwing enemies this way and that is just about every hunters dream. Unless I spend all my time dodging instead of firing.(yay what a thrill that would be). Why does everyone assume gunners don't get hit. WE don't stand 10 rooms back firing at mobs. Our riffles suck unless it's a solo run cause then that se really pays off.(Flying enemies and a few others change the circumstances of riffles) Our job should be safe but I can't count the amount of times I had a whole mob pinned against a corner just so some hunter could use some pa that sends them all over the room.

edit(this was not an anger post just thought I should clear that up)

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Even solo as a gunner you should know the safe spots and respawn area to be effective sometimes. Yeah i know we get tossed around at times and even more so when we don't have any protection. But when playing with a full party of hunters/techers and some support gunners you won't get hit too often except for some boss fights where it's unavoidable

[RemiusTA]

Funny how people say Def does absolutely nothing yet the difference in damage a Fortetecher takes compared to a Fortefighter in physical damage is enough to make you die in 2 hits.

Even without the HP difference, FTs would get raped with that DFP.

[pikachief]

On 2008-02-22 19:05, RemiusTA wrote:
Funny how people say Def does absolutely nothing yet the difference in damage a Fortetecher takes compared to a Fortefighter in physical damage is enough to make you die in 2 hits.

Even without the HP difference, FTs would get raped with that DFP.



well yes this would be horrible Techer armor, but a FF and possibly a gunner it would be awesome http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Rashiid]

As a techer and armor experiences, this armor would be very nice for me. Our crappy HP will cause us to die in 3 hits reguardless. Face it.

[Tita]

i don't see why the OP can't make sense of the following:

De Colte Line 20+ STA
low def/mst stats <---- hint hint
set bonus with SNIPER <----NUDGE NUDGE


this is one of the raddest combos in psu. me get!

[pikachief]

oohh so it has low stats and gives u SNIPER POWAS!

ssoo its an armor for characters that are in RANGED combat?

SO I WAS RIGHT!!! FF ARMOR!