Japanese PC/PS2 update for April 10! (Fires of Illusion!)

[EspioKaos]

http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=648

Seasonal lobby
The cherry blossoms are in full bloom across Gurhal! Enjoy the scenery from April 10 until May 08. (Note: Originally this seasonal lobby was set to end on April 24.)

GUARDIANS Boost Road
This time it's for Neudaiz. This GBR will be running from April 10 until May 08 with a drop boost bonus. The missions this time are:
* Hill of Spores
* Dancing Birds
* Sakura Warpath (new mission)
* Sacred Stream
* White Beast

New free mission
Sakura Warpath (http://psupedia.info/Sakura_Warpath) (C-S2, Saguraki C.D. to Ohtoku City)
After the collapse of the Illuminus, some spies were revealed to be active within the Communion of Gurhal. Now they've armed themselves and taken refuge in the Saguraki C.D. Track down and suppress the rebels!

New rare free mission
Fires of Illusion (http://psupedia.info/Fires_of_Illusion) (C-S, random counter)
Following the discovery of Rykros, a mysterious cave has been spotted by eyewitnesses, appearing and disappearing all over Neudaiz. High nanotransformer activity has been detected in the area, but its cause is unknown...
* The method of getting a rare free mission has changed slightly. With this update, your chances of getting the mission will increase if you have more players in your party. (They must be in the field; a party member in the lobby will not help.) Furthermore, the amount of time it takes to clear a mission will have an effect on your chances of a rare mission appearing. If a mission is cleared in less than five minutes, there is no chance of a rare mission appearing. From five minutes and up, however, the longer a mission takes, the better the chances of a rare mission appearing. Note that anywhere over 30 minutes will not increase the chances of an appearance above the maximum probability. Also, if players join mid-mission, in order for their play time to go toward increasing the chances of finding a rare mission, they must have been in the mission for at least 80% of the total time spent.

New S2 missions
* Sakura Blast
* White Beast
* Hill of Spores
* Dancing Birds
* Sacred Stream

Enemy adjustments
Adjustments have been made to the following missions which will disallow players from semipermanently engaging enemies in battle (for the purpose of AFK leveling photon arts, for example):
* The Black Nest
* Seal of the Dark God
* Maximum Attack G'
* Mad Creatures
* Plains Overlord
* Endrum Remnants
* Duel in the Ruins
* Scarred Planet
* Grove of Fanatics
* The Results of Ambition (story mission)

Item exchange mission
Electric Festival (http://psupedia.info/Electric_Festival) (Dagora GUARDIANS Branch)
Bring any extra Zon Drops and Zon Spheres you have from the Dengeki Mission Carnival to trade in for some interesting items! (This mission will contain some of the items from DMC's exchange mission.)

New items
* New Casino Voloyal items will be added to the exchange counter.
* Many new weapons, line shields and units will be added. Note that new units which will increase or decrease TECHNIC range affect only TECHNICs which fire in a straight line, i.e. Foie and Barta.

System changes
Prices will now be color-coded in shops.
Blue: 100,000 - 999,999
Green: 1,000,000 - 9,999,999
Yellow: 10,000,000 and above

* A universe transport cube has been added to the GUARDIANS HQ at the GUARDIANS Colony. Also, a PP charger, transport cube and NPC vendor have been added to each planet's GUARDIANS Branch
* Enemy HP has been adjusted in "Forest of Illusion."
* Party recruitment missions ("Dagora Standby Area," Holtes Standby Area," "Ohtoku Standby Area") have changed the way fastest clear times are presented. (No specific details are given on the change, however.) Also, a way to leave the standby area without ending the mission has been added.
* Grinder synthesis has been changed so that the maximum number of Grinders (of the same grade) you can produce reflects the maximum number you can put hold in both your personal inventory and your partner machine's storage.
* The mission "Military Subway" has been adjusted to correct a bug that caused certain containers to never drop anything.

Universe consolidation
The number of universes will be reduced from 42 to 26.

EDIT: Added a few clarifications. Thanks for the help, Zael and Ffuzzy!

EDIT#2: SonicTeam did a stealth update, extending the duration of the spring lobby. Also, I've listed some new details including a few known bugs that were posted on the official site.


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[Arika]

OMG, I m the first reply!! ....<_<


actually, cave should be on moatoob more. let FOI move to neudaiz,



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[SStrikerR]

ooooh the caves are gonna be on moatoob eh?
Nice new missions, more S2s, and weps/armors, cool.



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[Midicronica]

Yay.

[Weeaboolits]

I think he said it was on Neudaiz, also it looks like the GBR has White Beast, I think this one may remain popular longer than the last. ;o

[Danny_Dark]

Hm...Nice...Thx for the Info...

[Mysterious-G]

On 2008-04-08 04:36, EspioKaos wrote:
http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=648


New missions
Sakura Warpath (C-S2, Saguraki C.D. to Ohtoku City)
After the collapse of the Illuminus, some spies were revealed to be active within the Communion of Gurhal. Now they've armed themselves and taken refuge in the Saguraki C.D. Track down and suppress the rebels!


..Wha? This will be.. or no, I hate THAT kind of enemies... I hope (heh) there will be at least a new boss.


On 2008-04-08 04:36, EspioKaos wrote:
Fires of Illusion (C-S, random counter)
Following the discovery of Rykros, a mysterious cave has been spotted by eyewitnesses, appearing and disappearing all over Neudaiz. High nanotransformer activity has been detected in the area, but its cause is unknown...


Strange name, but oh well. Hm~, wanna know what nice things drop there.


On 2008-04-08 04:36, EspioKaos wrote:
New S2s
* Sakura Blast
* White Beast
* Hill of Spores
* Dancing Birds
* Sacred Stream


Some are useless, some change drop patterns I think? If so, then sweet.


On 2008-04-08 04:36, EspioKaos wrote:
System change
Prices will now be color-coded in shops.
Blue: 100,000 - 999,999
Green: 1,000,000 - 9,999,999
Yellow: 10,000,000 and above


Ya, hm, well, okay. Go for yellow when it is out here in Europe and the US, PC/PS2 population!!1


On 2008-04-08 04:36, EspioKaos wrote:
Universe consolidation
The number of universes will be reduced from 42 to 26.


Was way too many, anyway.


Thanks for the news, Espio~! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Wiz]

On 2008-04-08 04:36, EspioKaos wrote:
Enemy adjustments
Adjustments have been made to the following missions:
* The Black Nest
* Seal of the Dark God
* Maximum Attack G'
* Mad Creatures
* Plains Overlord
* Endrum Remnants
* Duel in the Ruins
* Scarred Planet
* Grove of Fanatics
* The Results of Ambition (story mission)
Do we know what kind of adjustments will be made?

Also, about how long will it take us to receive this?

[Zael]

Espio, you forgot about this part, following the enemy adjustments to that list of missions.
" Play a particular way by fighting monsters and semipermanently situation continue to lose out to the following adjustments to the mission."

What I'm guessing that means is that they're preventing you from playing in a particular way to fight enemies semi-permanently on those missions, which basically means you can't AFK bullets. If you look at those missions listed, they do have something in common: enemies that can resta.



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[Wiz]

On 2008-04-08 04:48, Zael wrote:
Espio, you forgot about this part, following the enemy adjustments to that list of missions.
" Play a particular way by fighting monsters and semipermanently situation continue to lose out to the following adjustments to the mission."

What I'm guessing that means is that they're preventing you from playing in a particular way to fight enemies semi-permanently on those missions, which basically means you can't AFK bullets. If you look at those missions listed, they do have something in common: enemies that can resta.

Hmm...that's interesting. Thanks for the info.

But I wonder how the gunners will react to this...

[Zael]

I don't care really. I already got almost all my bullets to 40.

And plus, we have a lot of times' notice about that patch, so if they're gunna AFK level, they're just gunna get it out of the way now or soon.

[Golto]

Hmm I guess this means they will finally release the head units /smart and /spread in that random Neudiaz mission.

[Neith]

I wonder if this will remove all the safe-spots from Plains Overlord then- since that's part of the reason you can AFK level in that mission anyway.

Other than that, all I can think of is altering the maps so you can't AFK level, or altering the AI so it isn't exploitable (for example, make Go Vahra leaders more aggressive, rather than standing there spamming Resta).

Fires of Illusion sounds cool, I'm guessing it's a PSO Cave version of FoI. Unfortunately, this means we'll have to be subjected to the Caves music again? D:

S2 of White Beast with GBR? lol.

[darkante]

On 2008-04-08 05:00, UrikoBB3 wrote:

S2 of White Beast with GBR? lol.



Super massive exp ftw? XO

[james_b]

Nice, now the amure tippes will be released (unless DBS2 has 150+ enemies)

[Mysterious-G]

...Uhm... You mentioned a party story mission once, Espio.
But do not tell me, that that mission will be "Sakura Warpath"? :|

[chu-chu-chu]

wow this will be great in 6 months. woop-e-doo

[HienkyakuX]

On 2008-04-08 04:46, Wiz wrote:

On 2008-04-08 04:36, EspioKaos wrote:
Enemy adjustments
Adjustments have been made to the following missions:
* The Black Nest
* Seal of the Dark God
* Maximum Attack G'
* Mad Creatures
* Plains Overlord
* Endrum Remnants
* Duel in the Ruins
* Scarred Planet
* Grove of Fanatics
* The Results of Ambition (story mission)
Do we know what kind of adjustments will be made?

Also, about how long will it take us to receive this?



That's a full map remodeling about spwn sets.
In other words say good bye to the rappy info we have in sow far. Maybe to make it harder to get them. Like they did last year with The Eastern Peril and other places were Zoona were almost remove from the game.

[amtalx]

Yay for color coded prices.

[Sylpheed]

This is the kind of large content update we have been lacking for so long. It's good to see that the JP servers are getting bulk updates like this one. Personally these updates can't come fast enough for us IMO.

[Apone]

Wow the are just pourin it on over there now... all I really want is the photon leveling update...

[zandra117]

Awesome, so they are using the MUUT DITTS POUMN layout for the illusion missions.
In PSO, the "MUUT" pillar was found in Forest, so in PSU the Forest is on Moatoob (MUUT)
DITTS = Neudaiz = Caves
POUMN = Parum = Mines
Ruins = Colony

[Dhylec]

On 2008-04-08 06:04, zandra117 wrote:
Awesome, so they are using the MUUT DITTS POUMN layout for the illusion missions.
In PSO, the "MUUT" pillar was found in Forest, so in PSU the Forest is on Moatoob (MUUT)
DITTS = Neudaiz = Caves
POUMN = Parum = Mines
Ruins = Colony

I pretty much drawn up this when FoI appeared on Moa. Now let's wait & confirm this. ;]

[Rashiid]

Great, more colors. -.-;

[Urtri]

Nice sounding update but iam gonna hold off my final thougths on it till te 10th as while this update has a LOT of promise its also poss that itll be nothing but a massive load of FAIL (remember Awoken Serpert S2)

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-08 04:42, Ryan113 wrote:
ooooh the caves are gonna be on moatoob eh?

Neudaiz. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif


On 2008-04-08 04:48, Zael wrote:
Espio, you forgot about this part, following the enemy adjustments to that list of missions.
" Play a particular way by fighting monsters and semipermanently situation continue to lose out to the following adjustments to the mission."

What I'm guessing that means is that they're preventing you from playing in a particular way to fight enemies semi-permanently on those missions, which basically means you can't AFK bullets. If you look at those missions listed, they do have something in common: enemies that can resta.

Ah, you're right! That didn't come to mind when I posted this earlier, but I was in such a rush to get ready for work that I didn't think too much on it. Thanks for the info! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


On 2008-04-08 05:23, Mysterious-G wrote:
...Uhm... You mentioned a party story mission once, Espio.
But do not tell me, that that mission will be "Sakura Warpath"? :|

Nah, "Sakura Warpath" is a normal free mission. The story mission event thing is supposed to come out after a few more chapters have been released. So, that'll probably be around June or so for Japan.

[LuigiMario]

On 2008-04-08 05:41, Apone wrote:
Wow the are just pourin it on over there now... all I really want is the photon leveling update...


So you don't want new missions to be added anymore? OK.

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-08 05:00, UrikoBB3 wrote:
Fires of Illusion sounds cool, I'm guessing it's a PSO Cave version of FoI. Unfortunately, this means we'll have to be subjected to the Caves music again? D:

It's not that bad. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif The non-battle music ("The kink in the wind in the way PART1") used to put me to sleep, but I've really come to like the battle version ("The kink in the wind in the way PART2") which is what we'll be hearing.

Also, on the name of this mission, literally it should be "Fire Hole of Illusion," but uh... that doesn't exactly have a good ring to it. <_<; (That's the reason why I opted for "Fires of Illusion," though when it's localized, I'm expecting "Caves of Illusion.") I guess I could've gone with "Inferno of Illusion?" Bleh, guess it doesn't really matter. One thing I'm hoping with the next two PSO field missions, though is that they drop the "of Illusion" moniker. With a second mission sharing the name, I'm already hoping for a more creative change.

[Rust]

Good stuff upcoming... someday.


On 2008-04-08 05:00, UrikoBB3 wrote:

Fires of Illusion sounds cool, I'm guessing it's a PSO Cave version of FoI. Unfortunately, this means we'll have to be subjected to the Caves music again? D:

ADX files FTW *going to put the F-Zero GX Fire Field BGM in those horrible caves*


On 2008-04-08 05:02, darkante wrote:

On 2008-04-08 05:00, UrikoBB3 wrote:

S2 of White Beast with GBR? lol.



Super massive exp ftw? XO



This is a drop boost this time, not an EXP boost.

[Neith]

On 2008-04-08 07:19, EspioKaos wrote:
It's not that bad. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif The non-battle music ("The kink in the wind in the way PART1") used to put me to sleep, but I've really come to like the battle version ("The kink in the wind in the way PART2") which is what we'll be hearing.

Oh thank god- the regular Caves mission was a surefire way to suck the life out of anyone playing PSO http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif


Also, on the name of this mission, literally it should be "Fire Hole of Illusion," but uh... that doesn't exactly have a good ring to it. <_<;



'Fire Hole of Illusion' http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif Can't say I can see ST keeping with that name either http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif I'm guessing it'll just be Caves of Illusion, and I imagine there'll be a Mine of Illusion on Parum at some point. Maybe a Ruins of Illusion on Colony/Rykros or something >_>

Gib MAG, need Ruins

[desturel]

The color coding change should help with the people who accidentally put up items for the wrong price. With a different color, there should be no reason for people to say "I meant to put that up for 1mil instead of 100k.


* Many new weapons, line shields and units will be added. Note that new units which will increase or decrease TECHNIC range affect only TECHNICs which fire in a straight line, i.e. Foie and Barta.

eh, I've never had a problem with how far barta reaches. I guess if you want it to hit creatures you can't even see on the map.

me - casts barta from way over yonder. "Hey did I hit it?"
Fortefigher - "yeah, you hit it."


New S2s
* Sakura Blast
* White Beast
* Hill of Spores
* Dancing Birds
* Sacred Stream


Hill of Spores S2 and White Beast S2 might be good places to farm Suffad. For Hill of Spores and Dancing Birds, I have to wonder how many people will get hit by the rafoie from the Kudetob and die because they forgot about how hard it hits. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Dancing Birds Rappy Igg hunting will resume during Boost road.

Sacred Stream on the Xbox 360 will be full of fail. Exploding robot slowdown. On top of techer spell slowdown. On top of poor map re-skinning slowdown = PITA mission. Plus the fact that you are forced to do the mission... At least there will be plenty of Ortapolymer and maybe some Ortaceran to go around.


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[AlMcFly]

System change
Prices will now be color-coded in shops.
Blue: 100,000 - 999,999
Green: 1,000,000 - 9,999,999
Yellow: 10,000,000 and above

So we should assume that there shouldn't be anymore mistaken pricing? No?

[Akaimizu]

Perhaps Sonic Team will finally be Forced to fix that Sacred Stream mission by the time we get this update. (And possibly the others affected by the bug) Perhaps, soon we can actually have a countdown to when they'll fix an issue which has been with us for far too long.



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[chu-chu-chu]

On 2008-04-08 08:04, Akaimizu wrote:
Perhaps Sonic Team will finally be Forced to fix that Sacred Stream mission by the time we get this update. (And possibly the others affected by the bug) Perhaps, soon we can actually have a countdown to when they'll fix an issue which has been with us for far too long.



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LOL! Don hold your breath

[Astarin]

Question, about the way Universes are displayed for JP.

On the source page, it shows a list of the Universes available now, and how those'll collapse down from 42 into 26. I'm noticing that it isn't merely the same name all the way down the list, like ours are. (ie: 01 Universe, 02 Universe....) I'm not sure what they all say, but the ones at the end of the list have "GBR" in the name.

Do the JP servers have actual labels for each Universe, specifying a particular activity or something? If so, what do they all say?

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-08 08:18, Astarin wrote:
Do the JP servers have actual labels for each Universe, specifying a particular activity or something? If so, what do they all say?

That's pretty much it. Each set of universes is a "recommended" set for players to flock to if they intend to do only certain types of missions. These sets include Colony, Parum, Neudaiz, Moatoob and GBR. Oh, and at the beginning of the list is the beginners' universe and then general universes.

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[Yusaku_Kudou]

I sure hope Sonic Team decides to patch the blue robot memory leak. This GBR sounds like a nightmare for everybody on the 360.

If not, then everybody will probably be running WBS2 anyway.

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[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Since no one has mentioned it, it looks like they're changing the way the rare missions are found now. While I can't make out too much from the google translation, it says something about the odds of finding it being greater with a larger party (though this may refer to the "trick" of splitting up after each run). Additionally, it looks like it says that the run must be complete in more than 5 minutes but less than 30 for the rare missions to have a chance to appear, and this applies to FoI as well.

Guess that means no more 3-minute VoC spam. :<

[Isabella]

On 2008-04-08 08:21, EspioKaos wrote:

On 2008-04-08 08:18, Astarin wrote:
Do the JP servers have actual labels for each Universe, specifying a particular activity or something? If so, what do they all say?

That's pretty much it. Each set of universes is a "recommended" set for players to flock to if they intend to do only certain types of missions. These sets include Colony, Parum, Neudaiz, Moatoob and GBR. Oh, and at the beginning of the list is the beginners' universe and then general universes.

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http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif
Wow~ Just hot many people DO play on the JP servers?...

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

On 2008-04-08 09:15, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:
Since no one has mentioned it, it looks like they're changing the way the rare missions are found now. While I can't make out too much from the google translation, it says something about the odds of finding it being greater with a larger party (though this may refer to the "trick" of splitting up after each run). Additionally, it looks like it says that the run must be complete in more than 5 minutes but less than 30 for the rare missions to have a chance to appear, and this applies to FoI as well.

Guess that means no more 3-minute VoC spam. :<

Better interpretation of that here:

http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?p=839158#839158

I was a little off, I guess. Extra time (up to 30 minutes) increases chances of finding it.

[Kion]

On 2008-04-08 05:28, chu-chu-chu wrote:
wow this will be great in 6 months. woop-e-doo



Yeah, we have yet to get MAG and japan just keeps getting updates.

[Weeaboolits]

Well, the game was released in Japan before it was here, so it's only to be expected we get everything later.

[Inazuma]

yay finally white beast S2. i hope it actually has some new drops.
no more afk? thats fine w/ me, ill just do it normally.

and its nice we dont have to split up to check the counter after every mission. also increasing the chance of the rare mission w/ more members is cool. but im kinda worried this gbr will be a waste of time like all the previous ones. wouldnt be surprised if solo white beast S is still the best way to go -_-

the 5 min rule is stupid. a big party of masters doing these horribly easy missions would have to be careful they dont clear too fast.

[SabZero]

On 2008-04-08 08:04, Akaimizu wrote:
Perhaps Sonic Team will finally be Forced to fix that Sacred Stream mission by the time we get this update. (And possibly the others affected by the bug) Perhaps, soon we can actually have a countdown to when they'll fix an issue which has been with us for far too long.



What bug?


On 2008-04-08 10:06, Inazuma wrote:
the 5 min rule is stupid. a big party of masters doing these horribly easy missions would have to be careful they dont clear too fast.


I understand that they didn't decrease any chances, just increase it a little, so that casual players have a better chance at finding it.

[Darius_Drake]

When will this update hit non-japanese servers?

[Kamica]

On 2008-04-08 10:59, Darius_Drake wrote:
When will this update hit non-japanese servers?



This question has become obligatory in these topics lol

[LuigiMario]

On 2008-04-08 05:35, amtalx wrote:
Yay for color coded prices.


Yay for color blind people.

[Inazuma]

On 2008-04-08 10:47, SabZero wrote:


On 2008-04-08 10:06, Inazuma wrote:
the 5 min rule is stupid. a big party of masters doing these horribly easy missions would have to be careful they dont clear too fast.


I understand that they didn't decrease any chances, just increase it a little, so that casual players have a better chance at finding it.



it actually says the rare mission wont appear if you clear under 5 mins. oh well, ppl will be leveling PAs in parties now, so that should slow everyone down enough. i think ill do the same.

[Kylie]

VERY nice update. I just knew there'd be another Sugaraki mission, and I'm pleased to see a new "illusion" mission too. Wonder what the drops are...

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[-Tidus_415-]

On 2008-04-08 05:12, james_b wrote:
Nice, now the amure tippes will be released (unless DBS2 has 150+ enemies)



I doubt there will be any enemies over lv150. So no new drops except for the Amure Tippies and whatever drops in Saukra Warpath.

[Xaeris]

Well then, here's hoping Alterazgohg is 150 (though I'm not holding my breath).

[Umberger]

That's one loaded update, I'm curious to see if the enemies are over 150 in the new S2s, and what all will drop from the Caves mission.

[desturel]

On 2008-04-08 10:47, SabZero wrote:

On 2008-04-08 08:04, Akaimizu wrote:
Perhaps Sonic Team will finally be Forced to fix that Sacred Stream mission by the time we get this update. (And possibly the others affected by the bug) Perhaps, soon we can actually have a countdown to when they'll fix an issue which has been with us for far too long.



What bug?



Sacred Stream, Grove of Fanatics, Desert Goliath, Train Rescue and Rogues Shortcut have an issue where these missions caused permanent slowdown randomly due to a memory leak related to exploding robots. The slowdown stays for all missions done afterwards until the xbox is restarted.

For some reason robots exploding on some other missions like Endrum Remnants and AMF Military Base don't cause the same slowdown. Also there are some maps in certain missions that don't cause as much slowdown as others. For example the maps in Grove of Fanatics that have less Bysha type-Otsu32 (blue robots) tend to cause less slowdown. Maps with more Bysha type-Otsu32 cause more slowdown.

There is one particular map that always causes slowdown for me even if I abandon the mission after finding out which map it is. (Map type A-2 if going by the spawn chart on PSUPedia. 100% slowdown for me unless I reset)

Some people just do the map slowdown or no and reset when they get too slow. Most people just avoid any mission where there is possibility of slowdown.

While people will still do GoF and DG because of the boss box drops, that does not apply to Sacred Stream.

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-08 11:14, Inazuma wrote:

On 2008-04-08 10:47, SabZero wrote:


On 2008-04-08 10:06, Inazuma wrote:
the 5 min rule is stupid. a big party of masters doing these horribly easy missions would have to be careful they dont clear too fast.


I understand that they didn't decrease any chances, just increase it a little, so that casual players have a better chance at finding it.



it actually says the rare mission wont appear if you clear under 5 mins. oh well, ppl will be leveling PAs in parties now, so that should slow everyone down enough. i think ill do the same.



wait is that already taking place or it will in that update? D:

cuz me and a friend were spamming VoC C and got FoI lol

EDIT: Also i see that we have all maotoob S2's now nudaiz S2's now we just need parum to get their mines and S2's and then GC S2's and ruins http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif lol

THEN I DEMAND S3'S http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

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[LuigiMario]

On 2008-04-08 11:30, pikachief wrote:

On 2008-04-08 11:14, Inazuma wrote:

On 2008-04-08 10:47, SabZero wrote:


On 2008-04-08 10:06, Inazuma wrote:
the 5 min rule is stupid. a big party of masters doing these horribly easy missions would have to be careful they dont clear too fast.


I understand that they didn't decrease any chances, just increase it a little, so that casual players have a better chance at finding it.



it actually says the rare mission wont appear if you clear under 5 mins. oh well, ppl will be leveling PAs in parties now, so that should slow everyone down enough. i think ill do the same.



wait is that already taking place or it will in that update? D:

cuz me and a friend were spamming VoC C and got FoI lol

EDIT: Also i see that we have all maotoob S2's now nudaiz S2's now we just need parum to get their mines and S2's and then GC S2's and ruins http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif lol

THEN I DEMAND ULTIMATE DIFFICULTY WITH LV205 MOBS AND MAP AND MOBS AND BOSS RESKINNED JUST LIKE PSO. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

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[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-08 11:30, pikachief wrote:
wait is that already taking place or it will in that update? D:

cuz me and a friend were spamming VoC C and got FoI lol

It will be in Thursday's update.

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-08 11:36, EspioKaos wrote:

On 2008-04-08 11:30, pikachief wrote:
wait is that already taking place or it will in that update? D:

cuz me and a friend were spamming VoC C and got FoI lol

It will be in Thursday's update.



k thank you, i'll have to explain this and the rest of the update info with my friends who are ready to quit any moment now if we arent getting any good updates lol XD


EDIT:Hopefully the real Chainsawd is a end box drop from Fires!

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[Ffuzzy-Logik]

On 2008-04-08 11:30, pikachief wrote:
i see that we have all maotoob S2's
Nope, the Il Cabo thing is still only up to S.

Also, regarding drops, it's probably safe to assume that we will see Nava Luddas (B'duki Boa), Vanda Orgas (Ank Dedda), Delp Slamis (Ryusaikanoh), and Grass Assassins (Sweet Death). Rare enemies would probably be Jaggos, and possibly something else like Orgdus or Lutus Jigger, but why don't we just wait a couple days and find out for certain?

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-08 11:42, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:

On 2008-04-08 11:30, pikachief wrote:
i see that we have all maotoob S2's
Nope, the Il Cabo thing is still only up to S.

Oh, and Forest of Illusion is only up to S, as well.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Yeah, but if you want to get real picky like that, then so is Bruce. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[beatrixkiddo]

Faux-lilies ;(

[Weeaboolits]

Does that time thing mean it can't appear after 30 or that anything over 30 won't help?

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-08 11:47, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:
Yeah, but if you want to get real picky like that, then so is Bruce. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Touché. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif


On 2008-04-08 11:48, Ronin_Cooper wrote:
Does that time thing mean it can't appear after 30 or that anything over 30 won't help?

Anything over 30 minutes won't help.



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[Powder Keg]

Hey, look at that--color-coded prices!

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Weeaboolits]

On 2008-04-08 11:57, EspioKaos wrote:

On 2008-04-08 11:48, Ronin_Cooper wrote:
Does that time thing mean it can't appear after 30 or that anything over 30 won't help?
Anything over 30 minutes won't help.Okay, cool, I wouldn't like to finish at 30:01 and have no chance at it. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

I wonder how substantial the increase is.

[Battlestar]

On 2008-04-08 12:01, Artea wrote:
Hey, look at that--color-coded prices!

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



A simple , inbetween numbers would suffice.. and yet still no , just colours.

[Katrina]

Thanks as always for the news Espio http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[JAFO22000]

On 2008-04-08 08:04, Akaimizu wrote:
Perhaps Sonic Team will finally be Forced to fix that Sacred Stream mission by the time we get this update. (And possibly the others affected by the bug) Perhaps, soon we can actually have a countdown to when they'll fix an issue which has been with us for far too long.



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Oooo, ooooo! I have some more:

Perhaps toads will grow small tires on their backs and roll down the road with their bellies in the air.

Perhaps telephones will come to life and be REALLY annoying to talk to at parties.

Perhaps the word "vestibule" will be used as slang for "talented" (ex. Man, that Chris Paul sure is vestibule!).

.....

[Jarek]

On 2008-04-08 04:36, EspioKaos wrote:
New free mission
Sakura Warpath (http://psupedia.info/Sakura_Warpath) (C-S2, Saguraki C.D. to Ohtoku City)
After the collapse of the Illuminus, some spies were revealed to be active within the Communion of Gurhal. Now they've armed themselves and taken refuge in the Saguraki C.D. Track down and suppress the rebels!

Hoping there's something unique about this mission, and it's not just sakura blast with armed servants instead of boomas.

[Para]

More for us non japanese players to look forward to in the future.

[Sekani]

On 2008-04-08 07:19, EspioKaos wrote:

On 2008-04-08 05:00, UrikoBB3 wrote:
Fires of Illusion sounds cool, I'm guessing it's a PSO Cave version of FoI. Unfortunately, this means we'll have to be subjected to the Caves music again? D:

It's not that bad. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif The non-battle music ("The kink in the wind in the way PART1") used to put me to sleep, but I've really come to like the battle version ("The kink in the wind in the way PART2") which is what we'll be hearing.

Also, on the name of this mission, literally it should be "Fire Hole of Illusion," but uh... that doesn't exactly have a good ring to it. <_<; (That's the reason why I opted for "Fires of Illusion," though when it's localized, I'm expecting "Caves of Illusion.") I guess I could've gone with "Inferno of Illusion?" Bleh, guess it doesn't really matter. One thing I'm hoping with the next two PSO field missions, though is that they drop the "of Illusion" moniker. With a second mission sharing the name, I'm already hoping for a more creative change.


I am so sick of you ruining the community with your crappy translations. "Fire Hole of Illusion?" Come on, you're not even trying anymore.



Seriously though, I wonder what's up with the time requirements for the rare mission, they make no logical sense.

[Kylie]

On 2008-04-08 12:52, Jarek wrote:

On 2008-04-08 04:36, EspioKaos wrote:
New free mission
Sakura Warpath (http://psupedia.info/Sakura_Warpath) (C-S2, Saguraki C.D. to Ohtoku City)
After the collapse of the Illuminus, some spies were revealed to be active within the Communion of Gurhal. Now they've armed themselves and taken refuge in the Saguraki C.D. Track down and suppress the rebels!

Hoping there's something unique about this mission, and it's not just sakura blast with armed servants instead of boomas.


Yeah, true that. It seems everyone hates those enemies too...

[Anduril]

Well this looks fun. *eagerly anticipates* And we just might get the GBR and the "Fire Hole" http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif of Illusions soon seeing as they did that with Moatoob's GBR and FoI. And damn, this is just going to make more people think that the "of Illusion" Missions are linked to GBR if we get GBR and Caves at the same time here.

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-08 13:23, Sekani wrote:
I am so sick of you ruining the community with your crappy translations. "Fire Hole of Illusion?" Come on, you're not even trying anymore.
Another step closer in my ultimate plan! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Seriously though, I wonder what's up with the time requirements for the rare mission, they make no logical sense.

Yeah, they are a bit strange. But I'm really curious what the increase in probability will be for spending longer on a mission than if you cut through it in just over five minutes. Hopefully it'll be a big enough increase to warrant spending more time in a single mission. I'm also hoping that the new S2s will give enough challenge to make players naturally spend more time in a single mission.

[pikachief]

lol me and a few friends will do some tests when we get this update. which is easier to get FoI..... beat the mission in 5 min, or waiting for 30 min to pass then finish it! lol

[panzer_unit]

On 2008-04-08 13:45, pikachief wrote:
lol me and a few friends will do some tests when we get this update. which is easier to get FoI..... beat the mission in 5 min, or waiting for 30 min to pass then finish it! lol


The sensible thing to do would be increase so that your odds are exactly equal for any span of time...
5 minutes = 5 in 1000000 chance
6 minutes = 6 in 1000000
...
30 minutes = 30 in 1000000

But who knows if they'd really do it that way. Probably best to test carefully.
Speaking of testing: someone needs to check if it's the same roll of the dice to determine if Forest and Cave appear; like do you have separate chances of seeing rare missions if you check desks on both Neu and Mot?

[MSAksion]

the Guardian boost road goes through only AOTI missions T____T

I would LOVE the boost road to affect OLDER missions that no one runs the way they did for Moatoob. I mean when was the last time anyone did System Defense?

I wanted the boost road to at least affect Rainbow Beast S2, Grove of Fanatics, and Demons Above T___T I'd still not find a Kazarod no matter how many times daily since summertime i do the damn place.

[Arika]

From five minutes and up >> I can say that they adding this rule to stop high level that like to spam C rank mission and go FOI S rank.
however, they forget that good party can do most of every S2 mission in less than 5 min nowaday -_-.

[Sazan]

Need enemies>150. Who wants to play the boost road without new rares??

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-08 15:20, Arika wrote:
From five minutes and up >> I can say that they adding this rule to stop high level that like to spam C rank mission and go FOI S rank.
however, they forget that good party can do most of every S2 mission in less than 5 min nowaday -_-.



so just wait for the 5 min. mark to pass before u kill the last enemy lol

[Zael]

On 2008-04-08 04:53, Wiz wrote:

On 2008-04-08 04:48, Zael wrote:
Espio, you forgot about this part, following the enemy adjustments to that list of missions.
" Play a particular way by fighting monsters and semipermanently situation continue to lose out to the following adjustments to the mission."

What I'm guessing that means is that they're preventing you from playing in a particular way to fight enemies semi-permanently on those missions, which basically means you can't AFK bullets. If you look at those missions listed, they do have something in common: enemies that can resta.

Hmm...that's interesting. Thanks for the info.

But I wonder how the gunners will react to this...


http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7996/lolafklolpa0.png
AFK leveling isn't over. There's supposed to be 4 in that pic btw. I killed one by accident.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2622/stuckdt2.png
Just get the 4 Kanohes stuck here. They can't roll out of the way if they're in that spot I'm pointing at.

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[EspioKaos]

http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=649

A little heads up to our Japanese players. Maintenance time has been pushed forward and slightly extended. Normally beginning at 11:00a.m. JST, this Thursday's maintenance will begin two hours earlier at 9:00a.m. JST and is expected to last until 6:00p.m. JST as it normally would.

[Arika]

On 2008-04-08 22:46, Zael wrote:

On 2008-04-08 04:53, Wiz wrote:

On 2008-04-08 04:48, Zael wrote:



But I wonder how the gunners will react to this...



AFK leveling isn't over. There's supposed to be 4 in that pic btw. I killed one by accident.



nice fine http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif , but they can't shoot us from there?



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[Zael]

On 2008-04-09 07:01, Arika wrote:

On 2008-04-08 22:46, Zael wrote:

On 2008-04-08 04:53, Wiz wrote:

On 2008-04-08 04:48, Zael wrote:



But I wonder how the gunners will react to this...



AFK leveling isn't over. There's supposed to be 4 in that pic btw. I killed one by accident.



nice fine http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif , but they can't shoot us from there?



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Nope. They actually don't have Rifle range.

[Akaimizu]

That seems about right. Or at least they don't have rifle eyesight. We already know our PMs don't have rifle eyesight.

(Only 6 virtual meters in front of PM) "[Insert Guardian Name here] where did you go???"

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[JAFO22000]

Espio,

Just doing a bit of forward thinking here, but maybe you should call the new mission "Caves of Illusion". If "Fires of Illusion" catches on, people will start abbreviating it as "FoI", and thus the confusion. I believe the confusion that will ensue will be tantamount to the Fighgunner (FG) and Fortegunner (FG) abbreviations.

Of course, there is no need to change it, but thought you might want to know.

Thank you for your time.

Cordially,

JAFO

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-09 12:55, JAFO22000 wrote:
Espio,

Just doing a bit of forward thinking here, but maybe you should call the new mission "Caves of Illusion". If "Fires of Illusion" catches on, people will start abbreviating it as "FoI", and thus the confusion. I believe the confusion that will ensue will be tantamount to the Fighgunner (FG) and Fortegunner (FG) abbreviations.

Of course, there is no need to change it, but thought you might want to know.

Thank you for your time.

Cordially,

JAFO

Excellent point. That crossed my mind after I listed it as "Fires of Illusion." I'm trying to avoid "Caves of Illusion" since I hope that these Rykros nanotransformer-effect missions don't all fall under the "PSO area name here] of Illusion" moniker. (Though I anticipate they will.) A few alternatives I came up with include a direct translation, "Fire Hole of Illusion," a similar name, "Inferno of Illusion," and a new personal favorite, "Volcanic Crevasse of Illusion."

Really though, I doubt it'll be much of a problem since I anticipate most people will call it "Caves of Illusion" as they know it takes place in the caves from PSO. And even if "Fires" caught on as the name, once we get the localized name for the mission, most people likely will begin to associate it with that rather quickly. This hypothesis evidenced by how quickly the localized name "The Egg Thieves" was picked up when before everyone knew the mission by the direct translation I gave of "Her Hero Is A Thief." (Even though it should have been "Her Hero Is An Egg Thief," but that's another story entirely about the multiple meanings of the Japanese word for egg, etc., etc., and me trying to keep names somewhat short and to the point.)

[LeMan_Bayon]

On 2008-04-09 06:40, EspioKaos wrote:
http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=649

A little heads up to our Japanese players. Maintenance time has been pushed forward and slightly extended. Normally beginning at 11:00a.m. JST, this Thursday's maintenance will begin two hours earlier at 9:00a.m. JST and is expected to last until 6:00p.m. JST as it normally would.



Nooooooooo! I was planning to milk the event exp as much as I could this evening! D:

[Shou]

Thats it.... Next Phantasy Star game, I am SOOOOOOOOOOO playing on the JP server. -.-;

[JAFO22000]

On 2008-04-09 13:14, EspioKaos wrote:
Excellent point. That crossed my mind after I listed it as "Fires of Illusion." I'm trying to avoid "Caves of Illusion" since I hope that these Rykros nanotransformer-effect missions don't all fall under the "PSO area name here] of Illusion" moniker. (Though I anticipate they will.) A few alternatives I came up with include a direct translation, "Fire Hole of Illusion," a similar name, "Inferno of Illusion," and a new personal favorite, "Volcanic Crevasse of Illusion."

Really though, I doubt it'll be much of a problem since I anticipate most people will call it "Caves of Illusion" as they know it takes place in the caves from PSO. And even if "Fires" caught on as the name, once we get the localized name for the mission, most people likely will begin to associate it with that rather quickly. This hypothesis evidenced by how quickly the localized name "The Egg Thieves" was picked up when before everyone knew the mission by the direct translation I gave of "Her Hero Is A Thief." (Even though it should have been "Her Hero Is An Egg Thief," but that's another story entirely about the multiple meanings of the Japanese word for egg, etc., etc., and me trying to keep names somewhat short and to the point.)



You're probably right! I bet most people will just call it "Fires" or "Caves", similar to how they call it "Bruce's" or "Forest".

Totally a tiny, tiny issue. I prefer to call it "Fire Hole" though, and will probably do so anyway.

[chu-chu-chu]

I found the Fire Hole!

[Battlestar]

On 2008-04-09 15:26, JAFO22000 wrote:

On 2008-04-09 13:14, EspioKaos wrote:
Excellent point. That crossed my mind after I listed it as "Fires of Illusion." I'm trying to avoid "Caves of Illusion" since I hope that these Rykros nanotransformer-effect missions don't all fall under the "PSO area name here] of Illusion" moniker. (Though I anticipate they will.) A few alternatives I came up with include a direct translation, "Fire Hole of Illusion," a similar name, "Inferno of Illusion," and a new personal favorite, "Volcanic Crevasse of Illusion."

Really though, I doubt it'll be much of a problem since I anticipate most people will call it "Caves of Illusion" as they know it takes place in the caves from PSO. And even if "Fires" caught on as the name, once we get the localized name for the mission, most people likely will begin to associate it with that rather quickly. This hypothesis evidenced by how quickly the localized name "The Egg Thieves" was picked up when before everyone knew the mission by the direct translation I gave of "Her Hero Is A Thief." (Even though it should have been "Her Hero Is An Egg Thief," but that's another story entirely about the multiple meanings of the Japanese word for egg, etc., etc., and me trying to keep names somewhat short and to the point.)



You're probably right! I bet most people will just call it "Fires" or "Caves", similar to how they call it "Bruce's" or "Forest".

Totally a tiny, tiny issue. I prefer to call it "Fire Hole" though, and will probably do so anyway.



I will make my best effort to not group with people who call it Fire Hole.

Jokes aside, can't wait for this update http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[DoubleJG]

Now THIS is a huge update.

I'm disappointed in the GBR mission list though. People already spam White Beast, so why is it included >_> (probably because it's one of the new S2 missions).

Yay for AOI S2 missions! I'm curious about what items will drop.. Maybe 13*s?

[Noblewine]

Sweet, the game just got a bit more interesting.

[WildArms2]

when do servers come back?

[Atomic646]

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif Great... when will the 360 servers get this.


White Beast S2 FTW!!!!

[WildArms2]

we get this in about 4 months we might get the GBR ealier though

[Cry0]

this is a cool update. i'm looking forward to this one!

[gamewarp]

* Hill of Spores: S2 lv150+
* Dancing Birds: S2 lv155+: Kazarod and Okarod drop
* Sakura Warpath: S2 lv160+
* Sacred Stream: S2 lv150+
* White Beast: S2 lv160+



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[EspioKaos]

http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13795.jpg

^ An intriguing drop. The first drop is an 11-star [B] Crea Wand +. Hmm...

[pikachief]

I cant view pics here, if someone could PLEASE start compiling a list of stuff that drops from these missions i would LOVE that! thnx!

[str898mustang]

On 2008-04-10 05:21, pikachief wrote:
I cant view pics here, if someone could PLEASE start compiling a list of stuff that drops from these missions i would LOVE that! thnx!



please do!!!! this is like peeking at ur xmas presents before you can open them, lol

[Urtri]

well i can get the ball rolling on what drops on the new S2's (hopefully) but someone may have to transalated em

http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13804.jpg - Tamagiri Zashi's (12* twin Dagger)
http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13802.jpg - A 12* Yohmei Armour
http://meomi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13797.jpg - CHAINSAWD (i hope lol)
sorry but thats all i can do at the moment (got work to go to T,T) but the Phantasy star weapon veiwer website should be interseting over the next few days

edit due to laoder spelling and later Scr being the wrong way round

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[pikachief]

thanks http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif nice to know were gonna be getting 12*'s soon! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Golto]

Judging from one of the pics of a cati/ bullet pp save dropping it looks like jaggos are the rare monsters for the Neudiaz rare mission thank god.

Sweet Cati/Rainbow +20% element no negative effects

http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13798.jpg



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[chu-chu-chu]

On 2008-04-10 06:43, pikachief wrote:
thanks http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif nice to know were gonna be getting 12*'s soon! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

6 months is "soon"?

[Arada]

On 2008-04-10 06:56, chu-chu-chu wrote:

On 2008-04-10 06:43, pikachief wrote:
thanks http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif nice to know were gonna be getting 12*'s soon! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

6 months is "soon"?



We're NOT 6 months away from this. Closer to 3-4 (3 if they hurry a bit, 4 otherwise).

It's still a long time, though, I admit.

[desturel]

On 2008-04-10 06:33, Urtri wrote:
http://moemi.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13802.jpg - A 12* Yohmei Armour


Ashura-senba

[Sol_B4dguy]

Whoo, stuff to look forward to besides events. I can't wait.

[Isabella]

uhm...checked the database, and couldn't find a GRM unit that had these matching numbers, anybody care to translate?
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13826.jpg

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-10 06:56, chu-chu-chu wrote:

On 2008-04-10 06:43, pikachief wrote:
thanks http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif nice to know were gonna be getting 12*'s soon! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

6 months is "soon"?



more like 3-4 months of....

MAG
Dengeki cup (most likely EGM cup >.> i want my EGM wand! lol)
New moatoob mission
New GC mission
lvl 20 job classes
Master Classes
another story mission
THIS UPDATE

with those updates looking to be the only updates on the horizon YES I CAN WAIT lol.

this game just got a whole lot better XD



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[Ash1ey]

On 2008-04-10 07:43, Isabella wrote:
uhm...checked the database, and couldn't find a GRM unit that had these matching numbers, anybody care to translate?
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13826.jpg



Red / Knight ? I might be reading it horrible wrong but thats what it looks like to me

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

On 2008-04-10 07:43, Isabella wrote:
uhm...checked the database, and couldn't find a GRM unit that had these matching numbers, anybody care to translate?
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13826.jpg

Pretty sure that is Red/Wall. If I've confused the body unit picture with the arm unit one, I suppose it could be Red/Knight. But it's definitely one or the other. Maybe.

[Xaeris]

It's definitely an Arm unit judging from the icon, and from it does, it looks like it's a /Knight. If it were a Wall, the DFP and EVP numbers in the unit's stat box would have to match the ones in the armor's stat box.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

On 2008-04-10 07:59, Xaeris wrote:
It's definitely an Arm unit judging from the icon, and from it does, it looks like it's a /Knight. If it were a Wall, the DFP and EVP numbers in the unit's stat box would have to match the ones in the armor's stat box.

Yeah, good point, I should've seen that.

So yeah, Red/Knight then.

[Golto]

That's some nice stats on Red/Knight, I wonder if Vijerina / Chronos (+320 atp +240 ata) will have the higher stats like I've seen data on?

[Isabella]

On 2008-04-10 07:54, Ash1ey wrote:

On 2008-04-10 07:43, Isabella wrote:
uhm...checked the database, and couldn't find a GRM unit that had these matching numbers, anybody care to translate?
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13826.jpg



Red / Knight ? I might be reading it horrible wrong but thats what it looks like to me


Nice to see things not in the database yet. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif
I have a feeling that unit will put the current arm units to shame, People will go Red Knight Crazy.

[amtalx]

*short circuits* http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Those stats are off the map. Daddy like.

[Isabella]

Now what I Want to know, is if theres some sort of negating factor for Vijeri cronos or whatever its called, because it's not making much since why they would have the same * rarity, while one is clearly better than the other.

[Akaimizu]

This kind of unit is almost akin to the reshaping of your stats people did with Mags, in the past. Are units going to be the future of (we make our stats what we want to be) in this game? Perhaps, with a little less control, of course.



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[desturel]

On 2008-04-10 07:43, Isabella wrote:
uhm...checked the database, and couldn't find a GRM unit that had these matching numbers, anybody care to translate?
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13826.jpg



Seems like someone was really lucky to get that one. 60/60 items and two legsless/rainbow. I guess those drop on that map pretty commonly as well.

[Neith]

On 2008-04-10 08:01, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:
Yeah, good point, I should've seen that.

So yeah, Red/Knight then.



Yeah, last part definately reads Night or Knight. Insane boosts really, nice unit. I can see S-Rank armour becoming very popular http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Seems like some really nice drops in these new missions (Nasuyoteri, made Rikauteri, Okarod?, Kazarod, Tamagiri-zashi, Shiraha-zashi (finally!), Cati / Rainbow, Lumira-senba, Asura-senba..) The list goes on and on http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Since I pretty much play to hunt items rather than leveling, I've been a bit bored lately, but these new missions look to be just what I've wanted for a while.

[Isabella]

Is this new? Ank Buti
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13831.jpg

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

On 2008-04-10 09:35, Isabella wrote:
Is this new? Ank Buti
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13831.jpg

De Rol Le 150+ dropped the board during Dengeki.

[Isabella]

On 2008-04-10 09:38, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:

On 2008-04-10 09:35, Isabella wrote:
Is this new? Ank Buti
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13831.jpg

De Rol Le 150+ dropped the board during Dengeki.


Oh ok, thanks, http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[-Tidus_415-]

Someone please check if a 11* Double Saber drops from Sakura Blast. If its still Raikasobra then... FAIL!!!!

[Isabella]

heres an 11* something, not a crea wand though << Is that a board?

http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13833.jpg

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[EspioKaos]

[B] Togeha-zashi

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Well, it's definitely a board for something.

Ohnoes, Espio beat me.


Also, saw a couple pictures of a made Tamagiri-zashi dropping somewhere in Saguraki, but I couldn't tell if it was Blast or Warpath S2. :

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[Isabella]

On 2008-04-10 09:47, EspioKaos wrote:
[B] Togeha-zashi


sorry espio if this stuff is like old news, this psu upload thing is just a lot of fun http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

It's typically fun when they get new areas/missions/weapons, but most of the other time it's filled with upskirt panty shots of PMs and Lumia. Also, pictures comparing bust size between various PMs/clothing sets.

[Isabella]

On 2008-04-10 09:52, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:
It's typically fun when they get new areas/missions/weapons, but most of the other time it's filled with upskirt panty shots of PMs and Lumia. Also, pictures comparing bust size between various PMs/clothing sets.


yeah I noticed that, and I was just like...<<;
how bored must they be over there? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-10 09:50, Isabella wrote:
sorry espio if this stuff is like old news, this psu upload thing is just a lot of fun http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

Not old at all. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif It's been a great source for information, especially with all the new drops from today's new missions.

[Golto]

On 2008-04-10 09:39, -Tidus_415- wrote:
Someone please check if a 11* Double Saber drops from Sakura Blast. If its still Raikasobra then... FAIL!!!!



I think they're not any 11*+ of the secondary srank weapon manufactures. Lvl 150+ Komazli seems to drop some kind of rod board and not a 11* yohmei rifle it seems.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

On 2008-04-10 09:57, Golto wrote:

I think they're not any 11*+ of the secondary srank weapon manufactures. Lvl 150+ Komazli seems to drop some kind of rod board and not a 11* yohmei rifle it seems.

Well, he does drop [B] Granahodrac, but that may be the Saguraki 150+ area drop. Unless it's been seen dropping from them in White Beast too. Being Kubara just makes it seem more likely as an area drop.

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-10 09:57, Golto wrote:
I think they're not any 11*+ of the secondary srank weapon manufactures. Lvl 150+ Komazli seems to drop some kind of rod board and not a 11* yohmei rifle it seems.

[B] Granahodrac, a Kubara wand. With it being Kubara, I have a feeling that it might be a Saguraki area drop, but it's only an assumption.

[Isabella]

Hmm...
these are NOT boards <<...I think
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13834.jpg

[EspioKaos]

Alteraz Kauda and Hizeri / Mind.

[Isabella]

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

lol, Hizeri / Mind.

-28 tech damage HEL YEH

[Sharon]

I just got a crea wand+ board a minute ago. Now keep in mind I only started the jap servers when mag started magically so I don't know much about this site, but is there any information on the crea wand+ that I might be able to look at? Probably not right? I only ask because somehow people find out that kind of stuff early around here it seems. I'm sorry if this was vague or ridiculous in anyway.



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[Ffuzzy-Logik]

No one knew Crea Wand+ existed until today, so no.

Also: inb4racial slur comment.

[Sharon]

Thanks, I appreciate the quick response.

[Isabella]

I cant wait to see what it looks like http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

[Sharon]

racial slur? lol does that have a special meaning to it?

<--Noob

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[Sharon]

you want me to try to make it? I can't decide to sell it or try to make it. It's on the shop for 30 mil right now *the board*.

[LeMan_Bayon]

Where does it drop? I wouldn't mind trying to find one myself tonight.

[Sharon]

I don't know the english name. I'll just call it water temple I guess.
流水の神殿


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[Isabella]

What! IS this a material or a weapon?
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13835.jpg

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

On 2008-04-10 10:50, Sharon wrote:
I got it in Sacred Stream S2.
I think that's what it's called in english http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif. You know that mission that starts in ohtoku city at the temple...maybe that's how to describe it...>< I'm sorry sorry sorry. I feel kind of stupid.
Yeah, that's Sacred Stream. Google translates the JP name as something like TEMPLE OF FLUSHING WATER.

[Sharon]

oh ok thanks lol. i don't really know what else to call it. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-10 10:53, Isabella wrote:
What! IS this a material or a weapon?
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13835.jpg

Opa Opa Repca... maybe it's just me, but it looks Photo Shopped. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif (The font doesn't look right, plus with how grainy the image is.)

EDIT: Yup, it was fake. The image board mods just deleted the image.

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[Isabella]

NVM http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif
looks like afk lvling is still quite possible http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif
Good to know, now I really must get going.http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13836.jpg

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[Sylpheed]

Anyone care to translate this unit? Whatever it is, it drops from CoI and i want it.

http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13826.jpg

[EspioKaos]

Red / Knight

[chicken105]

any drop chart for this mission yet?

[EspioKaos]

http://psupedia.info/Fires_of_Illusion

Best we've got so far.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

On 2008-04-10 12:07, chicken105 wrote:
any drop chart for this mission yet?

For which? Cavernous Conflagrant Chasm of Illusion?

http://psupedia.info

We're filling shit in as info becomes available.

[Sylpheed]

On 2008-04-10 12:10, EspioKaos wrote:
http://psupedia.info/Fires_of_Illusion

Best we've got so far.



Thanks for the info. Dam, just from looking at the unfinished list i can see numerous items there that are of great interest to me ^.^

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-10 12:11, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:

On 2008-04-10 12:07, chicken105 wrote:
any drop chart for this mission yet?

For which? Cavernous Conflagrant Chasm of Illusion?

Gaping Volcanic Crevasse of Illusion.

O:

On a not-so-related note, I'd like to point out that the Japanese wiki lists Grass Assassins in this mission as dropping [B] Double Agito, which is what they drop at LV150+ according to what was gathered during Dengeki. However, these guys are only LV135 in Fires of Illusion, meaning they should drop [B] Sweet Death. So, we've either got another dual drop to look forward to in our future or a drop chart alteration will be made to bring [B] Double Agito down to a LV125-149 drop. Or Grass Assassins make a 25 level jump from the normal enemy level, but I'm doubting that as the JP wiki states they only go up ten levels from the listed level.

[LeMan_Bayon]

For those interested in the afk changes, I went to Scarred Planet and the spawns were still the same. So no need to redo spawn charts or anything. All that happens now is the leader vahra never does his "call" to gather them together and resta. He just runs blindly all the time with the rest of them.

[Sylpheed]

On 2008-04-10 12:17, EspioKaos wrote:

On 2008-04-10 12:11, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:

On 2008-04-10 12:07, chicken105 wrote:
any drop chart for this mission yet?

For which? Cavernous Conflagrant Chasm of Illusion?

Gaping Volcanic Crevasse of Illusion.

O:

On a not-so-related note, I'd like to point out that the Japanese wiki lists Grass Assassins in this mission as dropping [B] Double Agito, which is what they drop at LV150+ according to what was gathered during Dengeki. However, these guys are only LV135 in Fires of Illusion, meaning they should drop [B] Sweet Death. So, we've either got another dual drop to look forward to in our future or a drop chart alteration will be made to bring [B] Double Agito down to a LV125-149 drop. Or Grass Assassins make a 25 level jump from the normal enemy level, but I'm doubting that as the JP wiki states they only go up ten levels from the listed level.



Is it possible that they made the Grass Assassins drop the Double Agito board espeically just for Caves even though they're not the required level?

Either way if the Double Agito is in fact a duel drop with the sweet death it means it should drop more than the Sweet Death if it is considered to be rarer on S.

[Umberger]

On 2008-04-10 12:22, LeMan_Bayon wrote:
For those interested in the afk changes, I went to Scarred Planet and the spawns were still the same. So no need to redo spawn charts or anything. All that happens now is the leader vahra never does his "call" to gather them together and resta. He just runs blindly all the time with the rest of them.



So does that mean he uses Resta more, about the same amount, or less? It sounds like he'd at least use it faster if not more, and that there'd be less of a chance of knocking him out of it (if you hit him when he does his "call", he won't do the Resta bit).

[LeMan_Bayon]

No, he doesn't even do it at all. I sat there for awhile and he just continued to run. Then I did some damage to them and he still would not resta.

Edit: Well the only thing I didn't try was getting them near death to see if he would heal, but I doubt he would have.


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[Umberger]

On 2008-04-10 12:33, LeMan_Bayon wrote:
No, he doesn't even do it at all. I sat there for awhile and he just continued to run. Then I did some damage to them and he still would not resta.

Edit: Well the only thing I didn't try was getting them near death to see if he would heal, but I doubt he would have.


Oh I misinterpreted you, my bad...unfortunate that AFK leveling has been eliminated though.

[Zael]

On 2008-04-10 12:33, LeMan_Bayon wrote:
No, he doesn't even do it at all. I sat there for awhile and he just continued to run. Then I did some damage to them and he still would not resta.

Edit: Well the only thing I didn't try was getting them near death to see if he would heal, but I doubt he would have.


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Can you please check if the Kanohes in Desert Goliath still resta?

[chicken105]

BIL DE MALEN?! O_O http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-10 14:07, chicken105 wrote:
BIL DE MALEN?! O_O http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



yes they are also in a moatoob mission we should be getting a few updates after MAG http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[chicken105]

yea, but no fist http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[JC10001]

It sucks that they are taking away our AFK leveling. Sega could of at least had the decency to wait until after I got all of my bullets to 50. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

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[pikachief]

On 2008-04-10 18:53, JC10001 wrote:
It sucks that they are taking away our AFK leveling. Sega could of at least had the decency to wait until after I got all of my bullets to 50. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

What level is shown in the pics that Zael posted? About all I can tell is that its on Moatoob.



im guessing desert goliath as he has asked about in the post above http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif lol

[JC10001]

On 2008-04-10 18:57, pikachief wrote:
im guessing desert goliath as he has asked about in the post above http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif lol


Yeah, I just happened to look up right after I hit the reply button. I hate it when that happens.

[EspioKaos]

http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=652
^ SonicTeam did a stealth update to their maintenance notes, extending the end date of the spring lobby to May 08. They also did some other random changes.

* A universe transport cube has been added to the GUARDIANS HQ at the GUARDIANS Colony. Also, a PP charger, transport cube and NPC vendor have been added to each planet's GUARDIANS Branch
* Enemy HP has been adjusted in "Forest of Illusion."
* Party recruitment missions ("Dagora Standby Area," Holtes Standby Area," "Ohtoku Standby Area") have changed the way fastest clear times are presented. (No specific details are given on the change, however.) Also, a way to leave the standby area without ending the mission has been added.
* Grinder synthesis has been changed so that the maximum number of Grinders (of the same grade) you can produce reflects the maximum number you can put hold in both your personal inventory and your partner machine's storage.
* The mission "Military Subway" has been adjusted to correct a bug that caused certain containers to never drop anything.

http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=653
^ One more thing. There's a problem with the new GBR. Earned points aren't showing up properly. The cause is being researched, and it is warned that a possible point reset may have to be done to fix the issue. They'll post more news on that once it becomes available.

http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=650
^ So who hates folks who boot party members for rares? SonicTeam encourages you to report them so that appropriate action can be taken against them!

[WBMike]

Whats this? Sonic Team Cracking down on Rare Booters!?
(Prelude to a "No Booting after Boss Drop" Patch in the works)

[-Tidus_415-]

Found this in the JP wiki in the drop chart comments.

"A shower of blossom from Las YOAKISOBERA spot check box"

Yoakisobera = 11* Double Saber?

Edit - What is "A shower of blossom from Las" anyway >_>

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[Katy]

On 2008-04-10 19:22, EspioKaos wrote:

* Grinder synthesis has been changed so that the maximum number of Grinders (of the same grade) you can produce reflects the maximum number you can put hold in both your personal inventory and your partner machine's storage.



For some reason that confuses me...

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-10 19:36, -Tidus_415- wrote:
Found this in the JP wiki in the drop chart comments.

"A shower of blossom from Las YOAKISOBERA spot check box"

Yoakisobera = 11* Double Saber?

Edit - What is "A shower of blossom from Las" anyway >_>

Ah, found what you were talking about. The comment translates as:

"I can confirm finding a Yoakisobra from the last boxes (boss boxes) of Sakura Warpath on A."

"A shower of blossoms" is part of a direct translation of what I called "Sakura Warpath." If I were to give a literal translation of the mission's name, it'd be something like "Battle of Pursuit Through the Falling Cherry Blossoms."

[Golto]

So do you think Yoakisobra is the 9* yohmei douiblesaber?

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-10 19:49, Golto wrote:
So do you think Yoakisobra is the 9* yohmei douiblesaber?


It seems that way since a nine-star Yohmei double saber is all we're missing. (Not counting 11-star and up, of course, since this is an A-rank drop.)

[-Tidus_415-]

Aww 9* http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif Thanks for the info.

[LeMan_Bayon]

That new mission on S2 dropped me an already made 10* gekitsnata so it may only drop a 10* double saber. It did however drop a 11* yamata misaki board so maybe there might be hope for an 11* doublesaber board?





Can you please check if the Kanohes in Desert Goliath still resta?
Ok so I did this and it had interesting results. They can still resta but there is a catch...
this is what happens on B rank[spoiler-box]http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf1.jpg[/spoiler-box]

And this was on S2[spoiler-box]http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf2.jpg
and the next resta right after
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf3.jpg[/spoiler-box]

So yep, looks like they got them too. That's the only amount they would do lol.

Also, here is a what the colored numbers look like. It's a little odd.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/numbersystem.jpg

Edit: Here is a better one
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/numbersystem2.jpg



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[Akio-Kasai]

* Grinder synthesis has been changed so that the maximum number of Grinders (of the same grade) you can produce reflects the maximum number you can put hold in both your personal inventory and your partner machine's storage.

I have NO idea what that means o_o

[Arika]

So no more afk bullet unless any1 can hit them less than 9 hp http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


lv 41->50 will be a fair PA level at least. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

(now gotta afk as much as I can until they reach lv 40... then 41+ all go for fair)




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[pikachief]

i say all AFK'ers are losers but thats just me>.>

anyways with the update coming up y do u need to? lol

[Isabella]

http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13841.jpg

Hmm...

[pikachief]

i hate it when someone posts a pic and says nothing about it cuz it doesnt help at all when i cant view them lol...

WHAT IS IT? XD

[Isabella]

I think its the inserted board for the crea wand, it has 90% success rate Im guessing, but I Also dont know the pm level so...just something to see <<

[Ash1ey]

Its the kubara copy of the 13* wand

[Cry0]

why do the japanese get them awesome long names, and we dont XD

[Neith]

On 2008-04-11 06:41, Isabella wrote:
I think its the inserted board for the crea wand, it has 90% success rate Im guessing, but I Also dont know the pm level so...just something to see <<



No, that's a board for Granahodrac, a 13* Kubara Wand.

There was a pic on the uploader of the stats of a 'Crea-zashi+' too, but I can't find it now >_>. It was 11* S-Rank, but the stats weren't very good.

[desturel]

On 2008-04-11 07:10, UrikoBB3 wrote:

On 2008-04-11 06:41, Isabella wrote:
I think its the inserted board for the crea wand, it has 90% success rate Im guessing, but I Also dont know the pm level so...just something to see <<



No, that's a board for Granahodrac, a 13* Kubara Wand.


90% success rate, 20 el photon, 2 Terseline, 3 Paural, 3 kubara wood?

So if the kubara version is 90% what's the success rate on the non-kubara version going to be like? That could be what the "hmm..." was about.

[Tamashi]

On 2008-04-10 23:26, LeMan_Bayon wrote:
That new mission on S2 dropped me an already made 10* gekitsnata so it may only drop a 10* double saber. It did however drop a 11* yamata misaki board so maybe there might be hope for an 11* doublesaber board?





Can you please check if the Kanohes in Desert Goliath still resta?
Ok so I did this and it had interesting results. They can still resta but there is a catch...
this is what happens on B rank[spoiler-box]http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf1.jpg[/spoiler-box]

And this was on S2[spoiler-box]http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf2.jpg
and the next resta right after
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf3.jpg[/spoiler-box]

So yep, looks like they got them too. That's the only amount they would do lol.



Good to know Afk leveling is staying dead.

[Gen2000]

Heh to kill AFK leveling they basically nerf the enemies (again...), I hated those humoniod enemies anyways when solo'ing as FT though, only thing that slowed me down during GoF hunting.

But I figured they would do something like make the Leader Vahra shot foie, throw his claw at you, or something to stop AFK leveling instead of mindlessly just Resta'ing. The Leader Go Vahra basically has no purpose now when he spawns unless attacks you without you having to flinch him first like the C-A versions.

[Battlestar]

wat

[panzer_unit]

On 2008-04-11 00:52, Akio-Kasai wrote:

* Grinder synthesis has been changed so that the maximum number of Grinders (of the same grade) you can produce reflects the maximum number you can put hold in both your personal inventory and your partner machine's storage.

I have NO idea what that means o_o


For a long time I've stuffed my pockets and PM full of low-grade grinders while making new ones, if you produce a Grinder+1 and there's nowhere for the PM to put it, it cancels the synthesis... the board's a waste (it won't make better than +5 after the first attempt) but you saved the grinder bases. It costs a LOT less to produce high quality grinders that way.

I suspect this change either invalidates the trick or makes it more convenient. It could go either way and I wouldn't care. It's stupid that you can make good grinders more efficiently with cheesy inventory tricks... but it's not like +10's are such a win button for grinding that they deserve to be as hard to produce as they are.

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-11 08:04, Battlestar wrote:
wat



enemies dont heal anymore lol

[panzer_unit]

That's ridiculous. They should make enemies do whatever they should to make the game work well, and impose some kind of rule that regular mobs pop with no loot or xp given if you let them live for half an hour.

[pikachief]

idk idc they never got to heal before i killed them all anwyays, and if they did heal i was doing more damage than they were healing at the same time -_-

but whatever takes out AFK leveling makes me happy! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Soulvayne]

On 2008-04-11 08:40, panzer_unit wrote:
That's ridiculous. They should make enemies do whatever they should to make the game work well, and impose some kind of rule that regular mobs pop with no loot or xp given if you let them live for half an hour.



Yeah I'm sure the person shooting the King Vahra for 8 hours really cares if it drops something.

[amtalx]

This is pretty lazy on STs part... Pretty typical though. Their solution for the MG glitch is pretty much the same.

[panzer_unit]

On 2008-04-11 08:44, Soulvayne wrote:

On 2008-04-11 08:40, panzer_unit wrote:
regular mobs pop with no loot or xp given if you let them live for half an hour.


Yeah I'm sure the person shooting the King Vahra for 8 hours really cares if it drops something.


... the point is that they can only shoot the King Vahra for half an hour before he goes *poof*

[amtalx]

I can't remember the game, but the developers knew that there was an AI loop similar to AFK leveling in this game. If you did it for an extended amount of time, the enemies would cast some Armaggeddon spell and wipe you out. ST should do something like that, haha.

[panzer_unit]

... yeah but they'd screw up and make it a tech that can be blocked by terrain or something.

[Inazuma]

you can still level bullets afk
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13853.jpg

maybe there is some way to use these guys for techs

[LuigiMario]

I figured it out. No more 99 of this and that in inventory PM as aay to not produce that X+X ever again.

[Isabella]

Panzer just said that I think. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_redface.gif

[str898mustang]

On 2008-04-11 09:42, Inazuma wrote:
you can still level bullets afk
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13853.jpg

maybe there is some way to use these guys for techs



can shotguns reach them?

[LuigiMario]

On 2008-04-10 19:36, Katy wrote:

On 2008-04-10 19:22, EspioKaos wrote:

* Grinder synthesis has been changed so that the maximum number of Grinders (of the same grade) you can produce depends onhow much space you have left in both your personal inventory and your partner machine's storage.



For some reason that confuses me...



Not anymore http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[amtalx]

You lazy bums! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_argh.gif

I've never AFK leveled a bullet. Just doesn't seem like much of a loss to me considering how much of a joke leveling became after the PA rebalance.

[LuigiMario]

On 2008-04-11 09:58, Isabella wrote:
Panzer just said that I think. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_redface.gif

Well, Panzie Wanzie said 2 things.

[str898mustang]

On 2008-04-11 10:07, amtalx wrote:
You lazy bums! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_argh.gif

I've never AFK leveled a bullet. Just doesn't seem like much of a loss to me considering how much of a joke leveling became after the PA rebalance.



ok?

[EspioKaos]

http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=654
^ Emergency maintenance is underway for the Japanese PC/PS2 servers to correct a few bugs. The servers will be down Saturday morning from 1:00a.m. until 5:00a.m. JST. (If I'm converting properly, they're down right now, but should be back up in the next few hours.)

The bugs being fixed are:
* GBR points not showing up properly. (No mention has been made on whether or not current points will have to be reset.)
* Player shop search results not appearing for those on Entrance 2.

[RadiantLegend]

Yay, death to AFK bullet lving.

[LeMan_Bayon]

On 2008-04-11 10:56, EspioKaos wrote:

The bugs being fixed are:
* GBR points not showing up properly. (No mention has been made on whether or not current points will have to be reset.)




They did indeed reset our points, which sucks cause we spent all night getting our boost up. -.-

[Inazuma]

oh well, we have a whole weekend ahead of us to do it now. we only lost 1 days worth of pts anyway

[chicken105]

what does the 13* wand look like?

[Zael]

On 2008-04-11 07:49, Tamashi wrote:

On 2008-04-10 23:26, LeMan_Bayon wrote:
That new mission on S2 dropped me an already made 10* gekitsnata so it may only drop a 10* double saber. It did however drop a 11* yamata misaki board so maybe there might be hope for an 11* doublesaber board?





Can you please check if the Kanohes in Desert Goliath still resta?
Ok so I did this and it had interesting results. They can still resta but there is a catch...
this is what happens on B rank[spoiler-box]http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf1.jpg[/spoiler-box]

And this was on S2[spoiler-box]http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf2.jpg
and the next resta right after
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf3.jpg[/spoiler-box]

So yep, looks like they got them too. That's the only amount they would do lol.



Good to know Afk leveling is staying dead.


Yeah, in 2-3 months or so. That's more than enough time for the AFK levelers to cap their bullets. Especially with next week's update making it go by faster.

As for people like me who got it out of the way already and AFK'd all bullets to 40, that change doesn't affect us at all.

[shade]

On 2008-04-11 14:54, LeMan_Bayon wrote:

On 2008-04-11 10:56, EspioKaos wrote:

The bugs being fixed are:
* GBR points not showing up properly. (No mention has been made on whether or not current points will have to be reset.)




They did indeed reset our points, which sucks cause we spent all night getting our boost up. -.-

In reality, Sega has mentioned that (http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=653) two days ago. But in compensation, we will get maximum luck for a week starting 04/17; so I think our benefits won during the Ultimate Attack 5 will be implemented the 04/24.

Otherwise, the new GBR points and drops rate % chart is... surprising! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
http://images3.hiboox.com/vignettes/1508/27v3jqfw.png (http://images3.hiboox.com/images/1508/27v3jqfw.png)

[LeMan_Bayon]

Oh so that's how it was messed up. Mine was working fine last night. But it would be kinda nice if they had left it like that. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



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[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-11 15:41, _shade_ wrote:In reality, Sega has mentioned that (http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=653) two days ago. But in compensation, we will get maximum luck for a week starting 04/17; so I think our benefits won during the Ultimate Attack 5 will be implemented the 04/24.

Ah, another stealth update! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif Looks like they updated that news article two times after I posted yesterday about the possibility of the points being reset. Thanks for the info!

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-11 15:16, Zael wrote:

On 2008-04-11 07:49, Tamashi wrote:

On 2008-04-10 23:26, LeMan_Bayon wrote:
That new mission on S2 dropped me an already made 10* gekitsnata so it may only drop a 10* double saber. It did however drop a 11* yamata misaki board so maybe there might be hope for an 11* doublesaber board?





Can you please check if the Kanohes in Desert Goliath still resta?
Ok so I did this and it had interesting results. They can still resta but there is a catch...
this is what happens on B rank[spoiler-box]http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf1.jpg[/spoiler-box]

And this was on S2[spoiler-box]http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf2.jpg
and the next resta right after
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii279/LeMan_Bayon/psu%20random/afknerf3.jpg[/spoiler-box]

So yep, looks like they got them too. That's the only amount they would do lol.



Good to know Afk leveling is staying dead.


Yeah, in 2-3 months or so. That's more than enough time for the AFK levelers to cap their bullets. Especially with next week's update making it go by faster.

As for people like me who got it out of the way already and AFK'd all bullets to 40, that change doesn't affect us at all.



2 weeks from now

[Arika]

more like after MAG, because many mission on the changed list we don't even have it yet.
but whatever, after PA changed. active prac bullet is easy anyway, I dont care whatever they gonna do.



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[pikachief]

On 2008-04-11 19:17, Arika wrote:
more like after MAG, because many mission on the changed list we don't even have it yet.
but whatever, after PA changed. active prac bullet is easy anyway, I dont care whatever they gonna do.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Arika on 2008-04-11 19:18 ]</font>


i mean their making bullets easier to level in 2 weeks

[Isabella]

Handgun Milla http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13871.jpg


http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13873.jpg

it must've dropped here
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13869.jpg
Yep its milla
Female onry :3
http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu13875.jpg

Im guessing it wont be long before they see Guld.
I wonder how the combinations will work http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif
assuming there ARE combinations http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_redface.gif

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[Mysterious-G]

Does the Milla replace the Varista? :/
Anway, knowing SEGA, the twin version just will drop somewhere. *shrugs*



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[RadiantLegend]

So i guess yasha and sange dont combine as of yet. Thats sucks big time.

[MinervaEros]

When you say that the method for obtaining a rare map has changed....
does it mean just for Fires of Illusion, because its new?

or is this affecting Forest of Illusion too?

[Golto]

Looks like the handgun mila drops made from lvl 150+ Jigo Boomas.

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-12 06:06, MinervaEros wrote:
When you say that the method for obtaining a rare map has changed....
does it mean just for Fires of Illusion, because its new?

or is this affecting Forest of Illusion too?

It will affect "Forest of Illusion," too. But as of this moment, only on the Japanese PC/PS2 version. The English version of the game still uses the old method, and likely will until we get "Fires of Illusion."

[LuigiMario]

Why would a non-FF gun replace a gun usuable by an FF?

[LuigiMario]

On 2008-04-12 01:34, Mysterious-G wrote:
Does the Milla replace the Varista? :/
Anway, knowing SEGA, the twin version just will drop somewhere. *shrugs*



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[Arika]

On 2008-04-12 06:57, LuigiMario wrote:

On 2008-04-12 01:34, Mysterious-G wrote:
Does the Milla replace the Varista? :/
Anway, knowing SEGA, the twin version just will drop somewhere. *shrugs*



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what do u mean by replace Varista?
Varista is a junk, it drop soo easy on every rank.
Mila is a lot better and very rare/expensive.

and the power of Mila beat all other handgun out of range. (has 100 atp more than 12*)

but the true is.....hand gun still a weakest gun.


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[Mysterious-G]

Nono, I wondered if the Milla replaced the Varista drop. But it seems to drop from Jigo Boomas. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Adriano]

Tomagiri-zashi's special effect
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nYhYgNdDopo



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[Neith]

lol, Milla. I read it as 'Mira' for ages, until it dawned on me http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

It'll be awesome if you need to perform a synth with Guld and Milla as ingredients to make Guld Milla, but I can't see it happening. I'm guessing we'll see both Guld Milla and Sange & Yasha as seperate items.

I find it odd that Milla is Female-only (like PSO), but Neiclaw is usable by anyone though >_>

[mvffin]

On 2008-04-12 11:38, Adriano wrote:
Tomagiri-zashi's special effect
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nYhYgNdDopo



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Thank you for reading.
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