moving

[enoch]

Poeple come here for advice for some reason so....yea
I live in texas. im 17 and I am moving to washington, seattle. I wont have much help so idk. I am also getting a lease on an apartment there.
>.> how much money do you think its gunna run me

(im not asking if its a good idea I ALREADY KNOW ITS A BAD IDEA LOL)

[enoch]

sorry if its blunt >.> the teachers can watch my PC with theirs and its not exactly something they need to know, so I typed it as fast as I could. nothing sais READ ME like a giant white text box >.>

[Katrina]

You can check sites like apartments.com, all you'll need is the city or zipcode. The listings should give you an idea of the price ranges, locations, etc. A lot have floorplans and some even video and/or pictures of the layout of the apartment.

[enoch]

well, the plane ticket is 170 all together...apartment fees could run me anywhere between 800-1000 a month but, I think hourly wages are higher in Washington. so right now I have around 1000. take the 170 out and i have 830.... that might get me an apartment. if I work and make at least 500 a month(thats pretty easy right?) I will have around 1700 to spare...hmmm that MIGHT get me 2 months in an apartment...not to mention bills etc and food... car insurance. anybody? if Im missing anything please say so.


btw im doing this on a whim (for the only reason a guy ever does anything stupid, you get my drift)
no help at all, no idea whats ahead, no clue, just trying to make sure I have enough cash


girls are aliens >.>



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[Solstis]

It is unlikely that you will have enough cash, or will be able to get an apartment without some sort of parental guarantor form/really good credit. Some complexes won't lease to those without steady jobs, as they'd rather not have to evict you.

That's how it works around here, not sure about other places. The more lenient with the rules, the shadier, so watch out.

Also, I'd like to point out that it's a stupid idea, though I'm glad that you realize this already. It really depends on what sort of quality of life you want to have. You can always become a freegan (dumpster dives).

Oh! Need to mention that apartments (at least in Gainesville) don't like to rent out on a month to month basis, and if they do, they hike up the fees.

Looking at it again, your best bet would be Extended Stay Hotels (http://www.ExtendedStayHotels.com/) which do daily rents, somewhere around $40-$50 a night.


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[enoch]

ha, looks like Im screwed. IDC about quality. Iwas actually planning on getting a lease. money is no issue, its time that is the issue. at least by the end of june i need to be there.

I might have to find a place to live until I find a job. IDK. its a wierd series of circumstances. I only have one friend there and its a girl( who I am guessing wont wanna have me living with her) getting there is out of teh way.

if you think I COULD pull this off, what would I have to do?

[EphekZ]

Forgive my asking, but why so abrupt?

[Allos]

1. Don't. Seriously, if you're going for the reasons I think you are, you're making a huge mistake. You're 17. Go to school.

2. As stated before, unless you have a steady income most apartment complexes will not rent a room to you unless you have a cosigner with collateral (i.e. a parent). Most leases are for a minimum of six months as well.

[Nitro Vordex]

On 2008-04-16 22:02, Allos wrote:
1. Don't. Seriously, if you're going for the reasons I think you are, you're making a huge mistake. You're 17. Go to school.

2. As stated before, unless you have a steady income most apartment complexes will not rent a room to you unless you have a cosigner with collateral (i.e. a parent). Most leases are for a minimum of six months as well.


Seriously, finish high school. Stuff will be MUCH easier. "I moved out at 17 and didn't finish high school," won't run well with sane apartment owners.
"I finished high school, and I'm looking for a new job," sounds much better.

[ABDUR101]

If you know it's a stupid idea, and all logic says "It's stupid"; then don't be an idiot; don't do it. Seriously, nothing worse than someone who can see a mistake and still walk right into it, eyes wide open.

Let me explain whats going to happen;
1. You're going to get there, shit is going to be hard to handle, you're not going to get help from anyone else, you're going to feel overwhelmed/frustrated and all the reasons you went there are going to diminish as you realise how big of a mistake it was. The reason you're there is going to change their mind about even wanting you there and you're going to be left high and dry, alone and in a strange place; calling home and asking to come back.(and the kicker could be that you get told no, and then you're really fucked.)

[enoch]

On 2008-04-16 22:02, Allos wrote:
1. Don't. Seriously, if you're going for the reasons I think you are, you're making a huge mistake. You're 17. Go to school.

2. As stated before, unless you have a steady income most apartment complexes will not rent a room to you unless you have a cosigner with collateral (i.e. a parent). Most leases are for a minimum of six months as well.


what reason would that be?
and Im finishing school before
I move

there are many reasons. the place Im going looks wonderful. (and honestly with all this graduation money thatIm getting I think I will be fine. Im definentally going to graduate) Im no enemy of the streets lol. Ive got enough dignity to do what I have to to get by.

and about it being a stupid idea, I know it is, but its like the lottery, its stupid but people play it anyway. eventually someone gets lucky >.>"



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and I wasnt asking if its a good idea I KNOW ITS NOT!!!!


i just wanna know how to go about doing it

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[ABDUR101]

How the hell do you expect us to answer that when you can't even explain the details?

Here, here's how you do it.

1. Get on plane.
2. ----
3. Fail.

Shit, be abit more vague why don't you.



what reason would that be?

Why don't you stop being stupid and just fucking tell us. Because by what you said beforehand...



btw im doing this on a whim (for the only reason a guy ever does anything stupid, you get my drift)

It sounds like you're moving for a peice of ass.

If you want solid advice; give solid details for what the hell you're doing and maybe we'll be able to offer more than "You're doing something stupid, don't do it."

If you have a friend in the area you're moving to, ask her about housing details and job availability and get a general idea of what to expect.

[enoch]

XD lol dont get so angry. of course. thats not teh only reason though. im moving out of state regardless, the only reason im moving to that place is cause of that. and it helps to know someone where im going. details...hmmm well I'll have my diploma when I leave, alot of muny (yay) Im sure I will have enough to get by. Ive been on my own before and its not as hard as everyone makes it sound

(sorry if im a smart ass, its just my way of making myself laugh >.>""")

its just there are always what I like to call "fees from hell" cause they come out of nowhere and you never expect them.
to be specific, is there any service i could use to transport my car there? or would I have to drive it? what are some good jobs for someone just out of high school? (i looked but i wasnt exactly sure what I was looking at) are roomates hard to find? (just as a backup incase it turns out I dont have enough money)

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif it aint just 4 teh girl. ive done all that before and I got screwed over with no place to live and lost about 1000 to her. its more for environment. the girl Im talking to makes hte place seem like paradise, Im tired of living in this 110 degree weather town with a population of 12 people(not really but its damn close) I wanna see some damn snow for once, meet some people whos conversations arent about toilets,dicks,or cow poop, or how they love thier cowboy hats. as sad as it is, everyone down here is so close minded and not open for change, ( who knows, maybe its like taht everywhere) Im really ready for change, and if I screw myself over its my own fault, and ill live with it.



I really do listen to the posts though, I think people come to forums for advice because of the many different views put into them. one of the posts made me think and then I thought HOLY HELL i dont have enough money for this. and because of that I took precautions and pulled money out of an account into a different one so now i THINK i have enough.

I likve the way you put it abdur XD "piece of ass" that really gets straight to the point, really wish everyone was as helpful as you(not sarcasm)

oh i probably forgot something on this post
but WTH....


oh yea, shes not much older than me...heh she has no idea about jobs or anything, in fact she dropped out and has no job so....umm yea as much as i want to, going to her for advice isnt workin out toooooo well

oh yea, see my "where I live" on my profile XD that should clear some things up >.>"""


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[BlaizeYES]

lol... i take it that you don't really have a job right now either. well if you have a job and you're able to transfer, you may want to start by doing that. you're even probably going to start work now at a wal-mart or something and already tell them about your transfer in a few months. having one month's rent isn't going to be enough to get yourself "on your feet." typically when you move, you want to have a good chunk of money, usually around 3 months worth of rent to give yourself some coushin, on top of food, utilities, cable, internet, electricity, laundry(if your apartment doesnt have a washer and dryer in the room), and maybe even parking. you havent even thought of furniture yet, and i'm sure you dont want to go with inflatable loveseats. you're taking a plane, so you arent really going to be able to transport anything, as well. and you might as well start already looking for a roomate so you won't end up paying somewhere around 800 dollars a months and not be able to afford it, especially since it's starting to sound like you don't have a form of income. and you cant just walk into a place one day at 17 years old with little to no experience and find yourself making as much as you "figure" you'd make. it can actually take weeks, sometimes months for people that actually have degrees and more work-related skills than a kid just jumping out of highschool.

other people already said it, but you probably wont be able to sign the lease without a co-signer, seeing as you probably wont have a stable job you've been working at for a few years to show you're reliable, and you probably have no credit at all (or if your parents were thinkers, they already got a credit card in your name and kept paying it off to boost your credit for years for when you turned 18).

but it isnt like "the lottery." when you move, you dont just get up one morning, make some sort of "gut" decision, think unrealistically and believe everything will "work itself out." you're 17, and even that young and you see your first struggles at real life, you still need support from others before you just shoot off into complete independence. because i'm sure you won't take anyone's advice on here, but it's not really the most sound decision. you're probably going to have your parents co-sign, and they will probably be hesitant, and maybe sign. and if you fuck up and get evicted, thats going to be something branded on their credit as well... so think to yourself, "what are the chances that i'll be allowed to come back home?"


think rationally before you make a decision like that. you're still in highschool and you're going out on a "whim." to me, i think it's a RECIPE FOR DISASTER. but nothing i or anyone else here really say to you will make you change your mind. so good luck boy, PROVE THE NAY-SAYERS WRONG, OR BE LOST FOREVER

[Kylie]

Only seventeen and moving into a place of your own? Wow, that takes a lot of guts. I wasn't ready to move out from my folks until I was twenty-one, and I don't think my parents would've liked it if I had a day sooner. Anyway, good luck to you, and I hope your independent life is as good as you want it to be.

[enoch]

XD thats funny cause its so true

>.>""" parents arent really in the "condition" to help me, but I wont dwelve into my personal life. they arent dead or anything though lol.

didnt even think about furniture, I have enough for 3 months reant at least, and yea, a co-signer is a problem. furniture iss expensive!!!! oh my, looks like im getting a roomate then =D what fun! (complete sarcasm, i have never met a roomate that I have liked!) looks like I have alot of math to do. ;o btw if I find that there is no possible way to pay for this, I will wait.

recipe for disaster= 17 years of age+money+girl+ADHD+technology
I was working till about a week ago. currently on a job search till I move. but hey, I like the idea of a Wal-Mart transfer (thank you blaize, you are a life saver, and not one of those gross hard ones, your like the yummy gummy kind http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) maybe a best buy one would be better >.>. the apartments I found are pretty cheap for that area,

do you think my chances would improve if I had a job there before I moved? maybe 2? its nothing I havent done before, if I can handle school and 2 jobs, I can handle 2 jobs alone.
maybe the only smart thing im doing out of all this is NOT moving in with the girl. no way im paying for another one....at least for a while.LOL I will be lucky if its 800 a month.

oh yea. I could always win the lottery right?
I mean considering my luck on the psu casino >.>""""(see psu casino tpoic)

can I use a train as transport? would that allow me to transport more? i have an ex gf who did that, and it was way cheaper than a plane. (not to mention safer)

oh thank you kylie, honestly Im scared as hell though
its not really brave at all





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[ABDUR101]

You're going to find that, as the saying goes; "The grass always looks greener on the other side". You say you want change and the people where you are, are close minded, etc. Guess what, people are close-minded everywhere. The only difference is that once you move to the new area, you're the outsider, you're the one singled out and on your own to fend for yourself.

I'm not even sure why you'd be willing to blow all the money, effort and energy on such a stubbornly stupid move, shit; finish your life where you're at before you try and start one somewhere else. You say you've done it before? Look at where you ended up, back home; right? So quick to have history repeat itself or something?

And don't assume I'm angry, why the fuck would I care if user #58085 on the PSOW forums went off and fucked away their own money and time? I'll gladly give you advice, but don't mistake me being quite verbal about my viewpoint as me showing any kind of emotion toward you or your self-inflicted situation. =]

[enoch]

XD you crack me up so much, I love reading your posts abdur

[Allos]

On 2008-04-17 11:30, enoch wrote:


oh yea. I could always win the lottery right?
I mean considering my luck on the psu casino >.>""""(see psu casino tpoic)




I sincerely hope you're joking here...

[BlaizeYES]

On 2008-04-17 11:56, ABDUR101 wrote:
You're going to find that, as the saying goes; "The grass always looks greener on the other side". You say you want change and the people where you are, are close minded, etc. Guess what, people are close-minded everywhere. The only difference is that once you move to the new area, you're the outsider, you're the one singled out and on your own to fend for yourself.




lol, abdur is really right with that comment. trust me, the area i grew up in michigan(yes, it is quite worse than where i'm at now) i figured to be the "exception to the rest of the US." leading up to my first "big move," i was 18 and going several states away, and i figured "everything will be different: the people, places, and the culture." essentially everything is basically the same, the only major contrast is the subtle behavior differences, religion, and a bit in the sense of humor. you can't really let yourself believe that a change of enviornment will make you happier... maybe for a week, but you'll find out that there's really not that much of a difference between the places, so you can't move because someone else builds up a typical city to be a utopia. theres shit everywhere, in every city, and you cant expect anything to be as pure as you envision it.

and yes, it would help if you had a job, and even two would be great... and it definitely helps to have a car. but make sure neither jobs conflict, or else you're going to start slacking in both when you're experiencing a mental burnout working each one 30-35 hours a week, and then you're going to screw yourself over because you just loathe your daily routine. but with the move, you need to realise how much you really will be sacrificing, and even with "independence," you're not going to get nearly as much freedom as you used to have. you're going to have to manage your time, money, and even your friends to fit your schedule... and you have ADHD, right? then start practicing CONSISTENCY and monotonous routines now before the move. don't "live up your free time before the move," you need to start planning. because when you're working constantly to keep your place, you're not going to be living life spontaneously until you are physically and mentally capable of doing more on top of your already hectic schedule and knowing exactly when you have free time. lol, i'm telling you this now, because it is information that is rather important, the last thing you want is to have your young mind start thinking, "you know, i'm getting tired of doing all of this, i miss not having to worry about everything"... that's usually the hardest part for the first 4-6 months to knock out of your brain. after that, it just starts to flow smoothly.


and you should probably invest into a cheap car, maybe a friend has an old beat up one you can buy off of them that could make the trip to washington, because even with public transportation, a car is going to make everything much more manageable and convenient when you have a way to control exactly what you're doing. a car can shave 10-15 minutes off of a walk you could avoid if there was a parking garage nearby and you were personally driving. also, it'll be easier to bring things from home as well as small pieces of furniture. well, thats about all the advice i can think of off the top of my head, but it's things you should all keep in perspective. THE JOURNEY WILL BE HARD, BUT WITH PERSEVERANCE, YOU MAY SUCCEED... just make sure you plan everything and get yourself mentally ready before you take a step that could potentially screw up everything for you and your family... hah

[enoch]

;o think its gonna be ok
I was joking about the lottery XD ive never won a single bet online!!! maybe today is teh lucky day

im told I have adhd >.> I never took the pills
I think Im set then, thank you all for teh advice o.o I learned alot

[EphekZ]

dude, if you have all that money... go to college in state but far from your current home. like an hour or hell even more from your home. it'd still be a new environment, but there'll still be people you can depend on if you really need to.
use that money wisely.
By the way, this girl who "you're really not just moving for her seriously" dropped out? and doesn't have a job? Why do you want that? stay local dude. There's new people everywhere, but it doesn't have to be in a different state.

edit: What you could do, is apply for a university in Washington. make sure you can get a dorm there, atleast then you'll meet people etc etc also that way, you can apply for scholarships, student aid and so on.

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[Raine_Loire]

Well, I'll tell you what my mom told me when I wanted to move around a lot- I wanted a change, I wanted everything to be different. She looked at me, hugged me, and said "Honey, wherever you go, you'll still be YOU. If you have problems here, you'll have them wherever you go." And I didn't listen, and I failed. Not once, not twice, but 3 times in 3 different states. The last one I ended up in the hospital, malnourished and nearly in renal failure.

You have been on your own and it's not hard, Enoch? Really? It's not? So you need to start a career teaching men and women on the streets who can't find decent work and feed their families by stealing, selling drugs, and being prostitutes. Go on into the ghetto, and get those lazy effers on their feet! Go tell them IT'S NOT HARD!

OK, a little practical advice- you won't get a lease. Minors can't be held legally accountable for contracts they enter into. So no place at risk for losing money will rent to a minor. They can't take you to court, they won't get anything if you decide just to live there and pay nothing. It will also be tough for you to find a roommate, for that reason. If you flake, they're the only one on the lease. When my husband first moved in with me, he was a minor and I had to add him to the lease under "children living with you." Nice, huh?

I think it's funny that you ask advice and everyone says "Don't, it's dumb," and you say "I know it's dumb" and then you say "well, I'm set. Thanks for the help."

LOL, as good of advice as Blaize had, last I heard Wal Mart doesn't do interstate transfers, and I'm pretty sure best buy doesn't either. Especially not for new hires, and I believe the probationary period is 3 or 6 months. I worked at Target for 2 years when I Was 19 and had to jump through hoops to get a transfer to a different city. And they were DYING for people. You can maybe MAYBE get preferential hiring, but you can't support yourself, not rent, utilities and food on Wal Mart or Best Buy salaries. That's why other than managers, mostly high school students and retirees work there.

You know what you can support yourself with? A job that takes a college education to get. Know how you get one of those? Going to college. You know what doesn't help your income potential at all no matter how many times you do it? Getting laid. So if you're going to do this, do it right. Do what EphekZ said, apply to school there, even a community college would give you student status, and all kinds of CCs even have deals with nearby apartments for cheap rent for students. You need to be PATIENT, and you need a plan. Not "I have a months worth of rent money." Do you know how much it costs to ship a car? More than the gas to drive yourself will cost. Plus you'll have rent, a deposit, your utility set up fees (which are higher for people with no credit- if they even do it for a minor at ALL) so that'll probably run you $100-200 per EACH utility (gas, electric, water, phone, etc) and food costs... and when you're starting out in a new city you want at LEAST 2 months rent and food and gas money on top of that. Plus laundry money, it's something often overlooked by teenagers who want to strike out on their own, but when you're scraping by trying to get a job, you're going to want clean clothes.

Do you see where I'm going? I know you say you'll have graduation money, and maybe you have VERY wealthy family, and you'll get 5k as graduation money (which is the LEAST I'd say you'll need considering the distance you will be from everyone except this one girl I ASSUME you have only met online.. which means that you'll most likely know NO ONE in the city within 6 months... and that 5k is on top of the initial transportation costs...) but if that isn't the case, and you're like me- I got like $800.

And dear god, tell me your basis of moving there is more than just "She lives there and makes it sound like paradise." PLEASE. Have you done a cost of living assessment for the area? I grew up in Naperville, IL. It was the best place in the country to raise a child according to some magazine for like 2 or 3 years. It's a WONDERFUL place. I miss it all the TIME. My parents moved when I was 17 and I had to go with them, because I was a minor. Now I'm 28, married and have my own child and I WISH I could raise my son in that place. But, when you are an adult you know nice places are nice for a reason. I couldn't afford to live there, I was lucky to have wealthy parents, but I'M not!!! So if this girl you talk to is living with her parents, she's not going to know all that goes into living in a place.

Now keep in mind, I don't know the WHOLE situation, that's because you asked for advice without explaining the WHOLE situation... what a surprise...

I wrote a long and detailed guide to living alone in THIS THREAD: http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=170359&forum=9

If you do do this... make sure you have money set aside JUST IN CASE... to go home if you need to. Never enter someplace without an exit plan, k?



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[enoch]

On 2008-04-18 05:21, Raine_Loire wrote:
Well, I'll tell you what my mom told me when I wanted to move around a lot- I wanted a change, I wanted everything to be different. She looked at me, hugged me, and said "Honey, wherever you go, you'll still be YOU. If you have problems here, you'll have them wherever you go." And I didn't listen, and I failed. Not once, not twice, but 3 times in 3 different states. The last one I ended up in the hospital, malnourished and nearly in renal failure.

You have been on your own and it's not hard, Enoch? Really? It's not? So you need to start a career teaching men and women on the streets who can't find decent work and feed their families by stealing, selling drugs, and being prostitutes. Go on into the ghetto, and get those lazy effers on their feet! Go tell them IT'S NOT HARD!

OK, a little practical advice- you won't get a lease. Minors can't be held legally accountable for contracts they enter into. So no place at risk for losing money will rent to a minor. They can't take you to court, they won't get anything if you decide just to live there and pay nothing. It will also be tough for you to find a roommate, for that reason. If you flake, they're the only one on the lease. When my husband first moved in with me, he was a minor and I had to add him to the lease under "children living with you." Nice, huh?

I think it's funny that you ask advice and everyone says "Don't, it's dumb," and you say "I know it's dumb" and then you say "well, I'm set. Thanks for the help."

LOL, as good of advice as Blaize had, last I heard Wal Mart doesn't do interstate transfers, and I'm pretty sure best buy doesn't either. Especially not for new hires, and I believe the probationary period is 3 or 6 months. I worked at Target for 2 years when I Was 19 and had to jump through hoops to get a transfer to a different city. And they were DYING for people. You can maybe MAYBE get preferential hiring, but you can't support yourself, not rent, utilities and food on Wal Mart or Best Buy salaries. That's why other than managers, mostly high school students and retirees work there.

You know what you can support yourself with? A job that takes a college education to get. Know how you get one of those? Going to college. You know what doesn't help your income potential at all no matter how many times you do it? Getting laid. So if you're going to do this, do it right. Do what EphekZ said, apply to school there, even a community college would give you student status, and all kinds of CCs even have deals with nearby apartments for cheap rent for students. You need to be PATIENT, and you need a plan. Not "I have a months worth of rent money." Do you know how much it costs to ship a car? More than the gas to drive yourself will cost. Plus you'll have rent, a deposit, your utility set up fees (which are higher for people with no credit- if they even do it for a minor at ALL) so that'll probably run you $100-200 per EACH utility (gas, electric, water, phone, etc) and food costs... and when you're starting out in a new city you want at LEAST 2 months rent and food and gas money on top of that. Plus laundry money, it's something often overlooked by teenagers who want to strike out on their own, but when you're scraping by trying to get a job, you're going to want clean clothes.

Do you see where I'm going? I know you say you'll have graduation money, and maybe you have VERY wealthy family, and you'll get 5k as graduation money (which is the LEAST I'd say you'll need considering the distance you will be from everyone except this one girl I ASSUME you have only met online.. which means that you'll most likely know NO ONE in the city within 6 months... and that 5k is on top of the initial transportation costs...) but if that isn't the case, and you're like me- I got like $800.

And dear god, tell me your basis of moving there is more than just "She lives there and makes it sound like paradise." PLEASE. Have you done a cost of living assessment for the area? I grew up in Naperville, IL. It was the best place in the country to raise a child according to some magazine for like 2 or 3 years. It's a WONDERFUL place. I miss it all the TIME. My parents moved when I was 17 and I had to go with them, because I was a minor. Now I'm 28, married and have my own child and I WISH I could raise my son in that place. But, when you are an adult you know nice places are nice for a reason. I couldn't afford to live there, I was lucky to have wealthy parents, but I'M not!!! So if this girl you talk to is living with her parents, she's not going to know all that goes into living in a place.

Now keep in mind, I don't know the WHOLE situation, that's because you asked for advice without explaining the WHOLE situation... what a surprise...

I wrote a long and detailed guide to living alone in THIS THREAD: http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=170359&forum=9

If you do do this... make sure you have money set aside JUST IN CASE... to go home if you need to. Never enter someplace without an exit plan, k?



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Raine_Loire on 2008-04-18 05:22 ]</font>


;o seems like I have alot to learn. actually by the time I move, i will be 18., but Ive actually decided to take a "vacation" for a few days, just to see if I actually like the place. haha, I probably will end up going though but who knows. the reason life alone was so easy for me here was cause I was REALLY prepared before I moved out. like I said before too, Im not going unless im sure I can do it. not unless I have a job and car at least. btw I said before, Im not moving because of the girl. Im moving there because she is the only person I know out of state. XD id be stupid to move out of state for someone whom i dont even know has intrest in me. but then again...i am a stupid teen whos going to do stupid things for stupid reasons and regret them later....maybe >.>. I have done quite a bit of money assessment.
but the whole transfer thing you said has thrown me off course. however, Im going to work at wal-mart anyway because I need to make somemore $$$$$. college sounds nice ;o DO YOU THINK if I went to college there, I could do better? get a room at the school? cause my family would definentally pay for the college. id just have to take care of the room and board.
XD life ISNT hard on your own T.T but its REALLY repetative. theres a really nice college in seattle Ive heard about, im planning on going into nursing. >.< damn I REALLY dont wanna go to school AGAIN, but if I have to......

[ABDUR101]

You're just a hard headed kid, you've gotten alot of solid advice and from every one of your replies all I see is "lol i know but I'm gonna do it anyway; and I AM planning ahead and I prolly won't go through with it, maybe."

I think you just need to go, have it blow up in your face, have your parents dig you out of the hole you dug for yourself and learn the lesson the hard way.

And the following makes no sense.



btw I said before, Im not moving because of the girl.




Im moving there because she is the only person I know out of state. XD

What kind of reasoning is that? Redundant much? You're still moving because of the girl, stop trying to slice it differently. I think you just want a vacation, you're going to be there for a month tops and realise what its like living a 'barebones and necessities' lifestyle and realise it's not worth being there just because you know one girl. News Flash: There are girls where you live too.
Go out, get to know them, you might be surprised with what you find.





but then again...i am a stupid teen whos going to do stupid things for stupid reasons and regret them later....maybe >.>

Thats a very pathetic excuse, and it only gets you so far. My advice? Don't fall back on 'lol I'm a teenager, I'm supposed to make mistakes"; you know why? Teenagers make mistakes because they don't know any better; you seem to know better and are just hard-headed, despite everyone here being very detailed and trying to point you in the right direction.

[enoch]

im sorry lol, half of whati say is a joke. it lightens up my posts o.o
stupid teen,stupid etc lol
;o but i never asked weather it was a good idea, I just wanted help on how to go through with it. you probably knew from the beginning that it was pointless to try and persaude me ( though it almost really actually worked o.o)

i should have been more clear though I wanted to originally move to michigan ( I love the great lakes, and the cool weather) but washington..yaddda yadda.

girls were i live XD yea ive met many of them.........forgive me for posting so much >.>""""""
i have like 5 computer classes at school and I get REALLY bored.

but like I said before. Before i go through with it, Im going to take a VACATION there first. what if I do hate it?what if this girl is an alien like the rest of them and takes me to her far off planet? >.>""". at least I wont be stuck there.
not trying to be rude or anything ( im sure I brought this upon myself somewhere i this topic) but id rather just stick to the how, and not the why, and "you shouldnt do it" posts

raine, blaize, and abdur were, particularly hepful on that end

[thunder-ray]

Like my dad used to say "A hard head makes a soft ass".

[enoch]

really? my dad used to say "go to your room dipshit" XD

[thunder-ray]

WOW you totally missed the point to what that saying meant. He also used to say *There's nothing like a brought lesson* I wonder what you will reply after reading this.

[Jehosaphaty]

hahahah the 17 yr. old mind