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Kerry157
Apr 14, 2008, 03:14 PM
I don't really have to face this issue because the only TECHER class I play is Acrotecher, but if you did not know, Fortetechers only have access to A rank Tech-mags. Also, 9* Tech-mags are not always readily available to every fortetecher as both Ranpegi and Shato must be found from missions or obtained from other players. So when it comes time to make the decision which do you choose and why? I think the Shato is just awful in appearance so if I was limited to using A ranks I would definitely go for Ranpegi. However, Ranpegi seems to be in short supply compared to Shato thanks to Forest of Illusion. I am interested to know what people think.

(I would add a 7th option: "Why the f*ck don't FT get S-madoogs" but I think everyone already has thought this a number of times.)

Shinko
Apr 14, 2008, 03:16 PM
shato looks better but Ranpegi performs better.....

that pretty much sums it up

Anduril
Apr 14, 2008, 03:17 PM
Now as an fT I tend not to use TECH-MAGs aside from for buffing, but I personally prefer the Shato over the Ranpegi, just becuase of the looks and the fact that I had a little army of multicolored Satos on PSO GC. If I was brave enough to grind either above 4 then my opinion might change, but right now it's all about looks.

Kerry157
Apr 14, 2008, 03:21 PM
Shato
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2614/psu20080414160629000sl9.png

Ranpegi
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9209/psu20080414161912001mz9.png

ljkkjlcm9
Apr 14, 2008, 03:23 PM
Shato looks better, and considering there are so many of them, just grind it and it's better than ranpegi too

THE JACKEL

Kylie
Apr 14, 2008, 03:28 PM
Shato for looks mostly.

Katrina
Apr 14, 2008, 03:29 PM
I'd have to go with Shato. When Cat Line is released, it gives a nice bonus to Shato, (along with several of the 'catpaw' style claws, twin snowy, etc).

The bonuses are:

Tech +100
Ment +50
Eva +20
End +1
Def +20
Att +50

Celi-Ka
Apr 14, 2008, 03:32 PM
I guess it depends on whether or not you intend on using your A-rank TECH-Mags for offensive TECHs. Maybe. If you grind both to +10, Shato has a +139 PP advantage over Ranpegi, as well as a +9 TP advantage. At +6 or +7 Shato gains the PP edge. The TP difference is negligible.

stukasa
Apr 14, 2008, 03:33 PM
If you're not afraid to grind, Shato is better. I only grind mine to +3 but I still prefer Shato just for the looks. I only use Madoogs for support techs so TP isn't a big concern for me.

Shinko
Apr 14, 2008, 03:35 PM
On 2008-04-14 13:23, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
Shato looks better, and considering there are so many of them, just grind it and it's better than ranpegi too

THE JACKEL



mmm.... yea but if u grind ranpegi it would still be better....

ljkkjlcm9
Apr 14, 2008, 03:40 PM
oh wow
Ranpegi
Tech 443 455 467 475 482 489 496 502 510 523 538
PP 1081 1120 1159 1178 1199 1220 1242 1264 1288 1335 1385

Shato
Tech 395 410 422 440 451 471 480 497 505 525 547
PP 802 872 952 1012 1096 1150 1224 1274 1358 1404 1524

Shato wins out in the end... plus it's way more common... this was already mentioned earlier in the thread

THE JACKEL

Dragwind
Apr 14, 2008, 03:48 PM
Shato beats Ranpegi when grinded. As for PP regen, i'm not sure about, but I couldn't be bothered to care. Shatos are fairly common at FoI, so Shato flat out wins imo.

DEM_CIG
Apr 14, 2008, 04:20 PM
Shato is better when grinded, 10/10 shato one of the best tech mags in the game.

PALRAPPYS
Apr 14, 2008, 04:29 PM
Shato wins in looks by far. Also grind it a bit and it owns Ranpegi too. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Sinue_v2
Apr 14, 2008, 04:54 PM
Ranpegi looks like a fat duck with down syndrome. It's embarrassing to use. No thanks.

Inazuma
Apr 14, 2008, 04:58 PM
FT cant use S rank madoogs, but MF can.
my advice to you is to skip both ranpegi and shato and just wait for puushan. it should be released sometime during MAG and is better than shato by far.

Dragwind
Apr 14, 2008, 05:06 PM
On 2008-04-14 14:54, Sinue_v2 wrote:
Ranpegi looks like a fat duck with down syndrome. It's embarrassing to use. No thanks.





I just saw this post, and I literally LOL'd. That is exactly how I feel about that things design.

Kerry157
Apr 14, 2008, 09:22 PM
I guess i am the only one that things shato looks stupid as f*ck?

Talise
Apr 14, 2008, 10:41 PM
I like the pegis(7-9), they make me think of (cute)weird anime bird pets... but I only use rods for attack as FT, so it doesn't matter whether I'm using a pitoc, shato, or, pegi.

Thrash777
Apr 14, 2008, 10:42 PM
...also, yet more translation error; the fact that Shato was spelt Sato in PSO... and even then, Sato was a popular MAG! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Svaltus
Apr 14, 2008, 10:52 PM
Shato is very cute too! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Ranpegi = Pokemon = sucks! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



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Pandaling
Apr 14, 2008, 10:57 PM
I like the pegi series! But they grind terribly http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif (the non-kubara ones at least)

Like lil hero penguins http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

ashley50
Apr 14, 2008, 11:49 PM
I like Cats...therefore
Shato> Pegi series

Gunslinger-08
Apr 14, 2008, 11:54 PM
Ranpegi looks like a freaking penguin! What more could you ask for?

AlphaMinotaux
Apr 15, 2008, 12:00 AM
Due to being a PSO veteran I will always choose Shato > Ranpegi. Heck I use Shato's over the S ranks XD

mvffin
Apr 15, 2008, 03:08 AM
for attacking or healing, Shato
for buffs, Pegic.

Shato 10 is actually better than a Dori 9.
0.o

no Ranpegi in my pallets. don't like the colors on it anyways.

Weeaboolits
Apr 15, 2008, 06:21 AM
I was never a fan of the A-ranked GRM's aesthetic, Shato is much better, think.

F-Gattaca
Apr 15, 2008, 07:05 AM
My AT, Aragan, uses Pegis simply because they remind me of budgies.

Gen2000
Apr 16, 2008, 01:19 PM
On 2008-04-14 19:22, Kerry157 wrote:
I guess i am the only one that things shato looks stupid as f*ck?



Nah, I actually prefer Ranpegi in terms of looks but Shatos are much easier to come by. Especially if you play on Moatoob a lot and get FoIs.

Also Ranpegi, along with other GRM Mags have a small DEF boost too. Not really important for ATs but for FTs and MFs every bit of DEF helps I guess.

LuigiMario
Apr 16, 2008, 11:46 PM
On 2008-04-14 19:22, Kerry157 wrote:
I guess i am the only one that things shato looks stupid as f*ck?


This hatred towards Shatos must have been from past experience with something else.

A cat or racoon or squirell maybe or something on PC. Deep inside, you love thins thing, but you can't love it because somethings in the way.

Something about its looks brings back memeories. Why else could someone hate this thing, its cute and so is Pushan, I bet you'll think Pushan is ugly. And Pegi looks wierd. Go with your heart.

drizzle
Apr 17, 2008, 01:12 AM
On 2008-04-14 20:42, Thrash777 wrote:
...also, yet more translation error; the fact that Shato was spelt Sato in PSO... and even then, Sato was a popular MAG! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif



'Shato' is the correct translation... 'Sato' was wrong http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif


As for the OP's question, Cats > Penguins!

Clint
Apr 17, 2008, 04:13 AM
I go for the Stats and performance,


Ranpegi / +10 = PP-1385 Tech-538

Shato / +10 = PP-1524 Tech-547

Looks? I could care less, what kills faster and lasts longer before recharge o.o

Shato FTW!

Mysterious-G
Apr 17, 2008, 06:18 AM
I guess I am one of the few ones thinking that a Ranpegi looks cuter/better than a Shato.
I really love it`s penguin look.

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LuigiMario
Apr 17, 2008, 09:13 AM
On 2008-04-14 19:22, Kerry157 wrote:
I guess i am the only one that things shato looks stupid as f*ck?


This hatred towards Shatos must have been from past experience with something else.

A cat or racoon or squirell maybe or something on PC. Deep inside, you love thins thing, but you can't love it because somethings in the way.

Something about its looks brings back memeories. Why else could someone hate this thing, its cute and so is Pushan, I bet you'll think Pushan is ugly. And Pegi looks wierd. Go with your heart.