$4.03

[Sekani]

So... how much are you guys paying for a gallon of gasoline these days?

[ABDUR101]

$3.65 if you're lucky, $3.80 if you're not.

[Nitro Vordex]

3.20-3.50 out here.

[MetaZedlen]

$3 fucking 50, man I want to bitch-slap the government, or whoever the hell is in control of our gas...

*Looks back 6 years ago, when gas was $1.09...

[Kylie]

About $3.15 to $3.30 these days.

[Retehi]

Hovers around $3.50/60 in Vegas here.

I kinda wish I had my bike again.

[ljkkjlcm9]

usually about 3.19 a gallon

THE JACKEL

[Powder Keg]

3.40-something outside of Philadelphia.

[Ketchup345]

$3.54 is the lowest according to one site for regular for a place that isn't a major grocery store. Diesel appears to start at $4.36.

On 2008-04-21 18:23, Zedlen wrote:
$3 fucking 50, man I want to bitch-slap the government, or whoever the hell is in control of our gas...

*Looks back 6 years ago, when gas was $1.09...
I remember paying $1.75 in 2003. It seems like the time the price was between that and $3 minimum was a week.


At the rate these go up, it looks like the extra cost of a hybrid may soon be repaid in as little as a week. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Randomness]

Why is it that we have known the downsides of oil consumption for years... and its not until oil becomes expensive that we start noticing the alternatives?

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2008-04-21 19:48, Randomness wrote:
Why is it that we have known the downsides of oil consumption for years... and its not until oil becomes expensive that we start noticing the alternatives?


because the current alternatives are actually just as if not more harmful

THE JACKEL

[Shadowpawn]

3.60 here.

[Leviathan]

$3.40.

$60 for the whole week. (//_X)

Outrageous considering we drive only to school, &the grocery store.

<Flashes back to when gas was only $2.25.>

Oh how stupid we were to think that was outrageous. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Blitzkommando]

About $3.20 here. Diesel is about $4.00-$4.20 though. When I looked back through the gas logs for our truck (1995 Dakota) I found that we were paying under a dollar up through 1999 and in 2000 it finally hovered around $1.00 with occasional drops down to under a dollar up through summer of 2001.

Cars use up hardly any oil compared to energy companies. A single, small power station can use up thousands of cars' worth of oil a day with no sweat. If you want to lower oil costs, reduce the usage of it in power stations (or, preferably, eliminate its usage entirely along with coal and natural gas). Ideally we'd be doing like most of the rest of the Western world is doing, nuclear. Unfortunately we have too many ignorant people in this country that are convinced that nuclear energy = LOL NUKES. Meanwhile France sits pretty producing 85% of their energy from nuclear as just one example.

What this country needs is an energy reform. We're trying to use the same antiquated technology and burn fossil fuels because it's cheaper in the short run (well, and it's far more lucrative due to the vastly larger number of stations that are needed). Oh, and we spend time and money building completely worthless stations like wind and solar which make fossil fuel efficiency look incredible. Well, and fart collectors which are even less efficient and more retarded.

[Siyamak]

3:70ish

[Ketchup345]

On 2008-04-21 19:50, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
On 2008-04-21 19:48, Randomness wrote:
Why is it that we have known the downsides of oil consumption for years... and its not until oil becomes expensive that we start noticing the alternatives?
because the current alternatives are actually just as if not more harmfulSome alternatives aren't that bad. Many people could be able to work with a smaller vehicle if they don't mind giving a little bit of comfort/power/room/whatever up, they would likely save money on both gas and the vehicle cost. I know am considering looking at a smaller vehicle than I intended for my next vehicle (though I'm unsure at this point if it would help much, the number differences between compacts and subcompacts are fairly small). Some people who drive larger vehicles all the time should consider how often they need the extra power or space and think if rentals would be worth it.

Hybrids can be very useful. Toyota offers a battery recycling program for its hybrids, I am unsure about other companies but assume they have something similar. Also I haven't heard of any Prius batteries wearing out. Hybrids are supposedly more reliable due to less moving parts, which means less parts ending up in a junk pile. Before anyone brings it up, the "Dust to Dust" report is severely flawed, as is that CCSU article.

One thing to consider about damage from vehicles is where the damage occurs, in some cases centralized may be better than widespread.

Ethanol is one of those that is of questionable use, but for some people leans towards the negative side. It lowers efficiency, but is cleaner. It also supposedly responsible for at least a portion of the rise in cost of say corn (I don't do grocery shopping, so I don't know if that applies to that kind of corn, or just corn used in animal feed and for HFCS).


On 2008-04-21 20:50, Blitzkommando wrote:
What this country needs is an energy reform. We're trying to use the same antiquated technology and burn fossil fuels because it's cheaper in the short run (well, and it's far more lucrative due to the vastly larger number of stations that are needed). Oh, and we spend time and money building completely worthless stations like wind and solar which make fossil fuel efficiency look incredible. Well, and fart collectors which are even less efficient and more retarded.We do need a change in how we produce energy with nuclear as a nice starting point. I think it may be worth investing more research in improving wind and solar though, which may be useful for some remote areas or as a personal backup system.


We need to change how most of us get our energy for travel and home usage. People can't do too much for nuclear power besides gain community support and write their energy company and political representatives. Each person can easily make even a small impact by their vehicle choice for ownership or even each individual trip.

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[ljkkjlcm9]

Wind and solar energy are so in efficient though. Most solar energy is max 20% effecient. I believe I read that they might be able to get up to 40% efficiency through solar, but that's about it. The fact is Nuclear power can currently produce at like 98% efficiency. It is by far the most efficient energy source, just as stated, people hear the word Nuclear and freak out.

Also hyrbid cars or any car you have to plug into an outlet, is currently getting that energy from power plants mostly powered through coal. Until we change that, you might as well be using a regular car.

We need to build Nuclear Power Plants, that would be the first step, while we try to make other sources more efficient.

THE JACKEL

[Nai_Calus]

3.79

They need to stop trying to make Ethanol out of motherfucking corn and use shit like sugarcane like other countries are doing. Using corn just wastes a ton of goddamned *water* used to raise the stupid corn. -_-;

[Weeaboolits]

One of the primary problems with nuclear is storing the waste. Not to mention how potentially catastrophic system failure can be, aside from that though, it's a pretty good energy source.

Granted system failures shouldn't happen if the plant is run properly, Chernobyl only blew because some jackass decided to remove ALL of the control rods before powering up the reactor.

[Ketchup345]

On 2008-04-21 23:06, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
Wind and solar energy are so in efficient though. Most solar energy is max 20% effecient. I believe I read that they might be able to get up to 40% efficiency through solar, but that's about it. The fact is Nuclear power can currently produce at like 98% efficiency. It is by far the most efficient energy source, just as stated, people hear the word Nuclear and freak out.If this is replying to me, this is what I said (or at least meant). Solar and wind can be very useful though for either backup or power sources for remote areas though.

Also hyrbid cars or any car you have to plug into an outlet, is currently getting that energy from power plants mostly powered through coal. Until we change that, you might as well be using a regular car.As far as I know, no plug-in hybrid is commercially available for use in the United States. The closest we have are either modified hybrids or test vehicles. PHVs may cause pollution by using energy provided by coal, but that's what I meant by consider where the damage occurs. Sometimes having a single source of pollution is easier to deal with than having the pollution source be more spread out.
We need to build Nuclear Power Plants, that would be the first step, while we try to make other sources more efficient.

THE JACKELAgreed.

[KodiaX987]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/Shurikane/1146786210412.jpg

[Raine_Loire]

KodiaX, you're terrible http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I wish hybrid cars were more affordable. They're decent used but tough to find used ones in good shape... especially if you live off the beaten path.

Actually, this website http://www.gas-water-car.com fascinates me. At first when I read the ad to "save money by running my car off water and gas I thought it was a site telling you to water down your gas! I was thinking "ummm that's not... good..." but they claim you can convert your car so you convert water into hydrogen or something. I wonder if it's really possible.

Oh, and gas here is umm between 3 and 3.30 a gal.


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[Sekani]

A news report this morning claims that gas prices are expected to rise to nearly five dollars per gallon by the end of summer.

Don't get the issues confused, this isn't so much about saving the environment as it is about saving peoples' livelihood. Alternative fuel vehicles are all more expensive to own than gasoline-powered ones as far as I'm aware. Hybrids are the only realistic alternative at the moment, I just wish they didn't suck so much. I've actually managed to kill the battery on my Civic Hybrid commuting through a hilly area.

In the long term there's the expensive and sometimes difficult task of investing more in mass transit so that people don't have to drive so much. I've found that this tends to work well in some places, not so well in others.

I might as well add in a few gas-saving tips that I've found can actually make a difference.

First, brake early and coast towards red lights. If you can avoid coming to a full stop you'll save gas by not having to accelerate as much. The effectiveness of this technique varies depending on how congested your commute is, but I've managed to gain 10 to 15 MPG on a variety of different vehicles using this method.

Secondly, roll the windows up. Wind resistance drains your mileage more than running the A/C.

Third, keep your tires inflated. Not sure how much of a difference this actually makes, but properly inflated tired are safer and more comfortable to drive on.

Fourth, start a carpool. Who wouldn't want to cut their gas usage to a fraction of normal?

[enoch]

jesus...it was 3.00 a week or two ago, now its 3.50, oh well good thing my car is awesome http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif even though i dont have it yet...

[McLaughlin]

$1.20 a liter. That would be around...$4.60 per gallon I think (go go mental math!).

Canada is America's largest supplier of crude oil, and we're paying (substantially) more for gas.

Nuclear's fine and dandy, but where do you put all the waste? That stuff takes centuries to decompose.

Ethanol is to blame for the rising cost of wheat. Farmers are more inclined to plant corn seeds in the place of wheat because it's more profitable now.

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[KodiaX987]

And the fun part is that those corn fields are used for feeding cars instead of feeding people. Whoops!

[McLaughlin]

BUT IT'S NOT GASOLINE RITE!? THAT MAKES IT BETTER THAN GASOLINE!!!

[Sekani]

On 2008-04-22 09:40, Obsidian_Knight wrote:

Canada is America's largest supplier of crude oil, and we're paying (substantially) more for gas.

Blame your government, the extra is for taxes.

And I thought our largest supplier was Venezuela?



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[Ketchup345]

On 2008-04-22 09:40, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
Nuclear's fine and dandy, but where do you put all the waste? That stuff takes centuries to decompose.Newer nuclear reactors produce less waste, and some have a way to recycle at least part of the waste.

I just paid $3.55 per gallon, and that's after the $0.05 discount and $0.10 coupon.

[BlaizeYES]

yes, gas prices are getting horrible. but i'm still waiting until they convert the best form of energy into automobile use: LOVE. and when that fossil fuel burns, it fills the ozone layer with happiness and RAINBOWS

[McLaughlin]

On 2008-04-22 10:02, Sekani wrote:
On 2008-04-22 09:40, Obsidian_Knight wrote:

Canada is America's largest supplier of crude oil, and we're paying (substantially) more for gas.

Blame your government, the extra is for taxes.

And I thought our largest supplier was Venezuela?



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Not as far as I'm aware, but I could very well be wrong.

In Ontario our taxes total 15%. 15% of $1.20 is approximately...$0.18? We're still higher by thirty cents a gallon for no real reason.

[Sekani]

http://www.fin.gc.ca/toce/2006/gas_tax-e.html

[McLaughlin]

All I got out of that was that you have less taxes on your gas. I suppose that's the "no real reason"?

[Raine_Loire]

On 2008-04-22 10:53, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
On 2008-04-22 10:02, Sekani wrote:
On 2008-04-22 09:40, Obsidian_Knight wrote:

Canada is America's largest supplier of crude oil, and we're paying (substantially) more for gas.

Blame your government, the extra is for taxes.

And I thought our largest supplier was Venezuela?



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Not as far as I'm aware, but I could very well be wrong.

In Ontario our taxes total 15%. 15% of $1.20 is approximately...$0.18? We're still higher by thirty cents a gallon for no real reason.



I think you're right about Canada http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2006/06/27/energy.html

Funny thing. In high school, we were taught that the US was the largest producer of oil in the world, we just consumed way more than we produced. I actually believed that crap for years. What a noob.

*edit* german gas is 90 euro cents a liter. I don't know what that all converts to though. I'm pretty sure it's higher than what americans pay, because we need ration cards to buy gas on post, and lots of germans try to steal them if you leave them unattended.


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[Mewnie]

Sitting here in Calgary, the oil capital of Canada, we're about... $1.20/litre? Last time I checked, at least.


I ride the C-Train and bike, thankfully.

[Mewnie]

Oh, about the nuclear power, yes it's efficient. And all in all, clean.

But there's the NIMBY of the spent rods. Nobody wants to bear the burden of the millenia it takes for them to decompose.

[Blitzkommando]

Anyone been to Oklahoma? There's salt mines under Oklahoma that span for miles underground that have been cleaned out of salt. If you can't use the spent material (which, most of which can be used especially the DU) dump it there where it will be left undisturbed, well, forever. And, actually that's what is being done. Still, the lowlevel stuff that takes thousands of years to decay is rather small. Most will decay to a stable level within decades.

Oh, and for the record gas was $3.57 today but was $3.29 yesterday. Fuck ethanol. I need that corn to eat (the Mexicans need it too as their tortilla prices have skyrocketed due to ethanol). Whoever decided that a staple food (for both humans and animals) would make a good source for fuel needs a swift kick to the jewels for being such a naive moron. Now everything that has anything to do with corn is going up in price, like meat, milk, poultry, tortillas...

[Sekani]

On 2008-04-22 13:03, Raine_Loire wrote:

*edit* german gas is 90 euro cents a liter. I don't know what that all converts to though. I'm pretty sure it's higher than what americans pay, because we need ration cards to buy gas on post, and lots of germans try to steal them if you leave them unattended.

Rough conversion is around $5.60 a gallon. Blame taxes for that too.

[RemiusTA]

Gas companies have gained BILLIONS of fucking dollors profit from gas prices.

Right now the gas prices are going up, but i have no fucking clue why no political figures are SAYING anything about it.

Fuck both clinton AND obama if they arent going to do anything about the gas prices, because NEITHER of them have said anything about it yet in fear of fucking it up.


George Bush is robbing America BLIND. You pay the $4/5 dollors for gas, but i HAS ANYBODY ASKED WHY YET.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5179131

There is no reason for gas prices to be raising right now. No fucking reason at all, you cant come up with one. America needs to wake the fuck up. When an oil company makes a mother fucking TEN BILLION DOLLOR PROFIT for no god damn reason, i think a few hands should start to raise.

[McLaughlin]

On 2008-04-22 13:38, Blitzkommando wrote:
Anyone been to Oklahoma? There's salt mines under Oklahoma that span for miles underground that have been cleaned out of salt. If you can't use the spent material (which, most of which can be used especially the DU) dump it there where it will be left undisturbed, well, forever. And, actually that's what is being done. Still, the lowlevel stuff that takes thousands of years to decay is rather small. Most will decay to a stable level within decades.


That'll contaminate the ground water, among other things. It's likely the best option currently, but that doesn't necessarily make it a good option.

[ljkkjlcm9]

I think it's funny how every other country actually pays more for gas then America, yet Americans seem to complain the most about it.

THE JACKEL

[Sekani]

On 2008-04-22 16:19, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
I think it's funny how every other country actually pays more for gas then America, yet Americans seem to complain the most about it.

THE JACKEL


1) Americans drive more for various reasons.
2) You probably hear Americans complain more because you live there. There's plenty of international bitching as well.

[Nitro Vordex]

3) They have better paying jobs.

I suppose.

[Ketchup345]

On 2008-04-22 16:19, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
I think it's funny how every other country actually pays more for gas then America, yet Americans seem to complain the most about it.

THE JACKELPart of it may be being too used to paying very little for it, then seemingly overnight it jumps. Like I said above, I don't remember the time between $1.75 and $3.00. Within the past month we seem to have jumped from $3.15 to $3.55. Blitz just had a 28 cent jump overnight.

Also some people just can't handle rapid price increases in an often necessary part of their lives.

[Blitzkommando]

We hardly pay the least in the world. Go to Russia, Venezuela, Argentina, or the Middle East and gas prices are absolutely minute. Moscow pays on average right around a dollar for a gallon for instance.

We bitch and moan about it because we buy more of it than any other country in the world because we drive more. The fact we do this makes me feel like it's a logical complaint. I myself drive for about an hour for just one round trip to the college I go to, and most days I have to go back and forth twice. That's a hell of a lot of travel time and far more gas than I wish I was using. There's not a college closer so I don't have a choice in the matter, and this is the way for a lot of Americans. Unlike Europe and Japan with their awesome public transit systems (compared to the U.S. they are unbelievably awesome) most Americans have to drive anywhere they want to go if they live outside of the big cities (ergo: most Americans). The fact prices fluctuate as much as $0.50+ in a single week is also what irks a lot of people. If prices were steady and went up slowly you wouldn't have people complaining too much. But suddenly charge them a quarter more at 5 in the afternoon than the price that was set at 7 in the morning and you'll have lots of people raging (I cite that as an example because I've literally seen that happen).

I'm sorry if I came off rather defensively but the cold hard truth remains that Americans spend more of their lives wasting away in cars than any other place in the world. (And, yes, that's a bad thing in countless ways but it's not changing any time soon) That's why we complain, because it is such a big part of our lives and expenses.

[Alamar]

$3.39 here in the midwest. This corn gas lol is not the solution. The amount of energy and money it takes to get fuel out of it makes it really not worth the effort. As for other crazy prices: I went to the store to get a tomato for the deli meat I bought. How does 3.50 for ONE Tomato sound? I stood there in shock I just could not believe what I was reading. I will say, if this don't end this will bring us to our knees. I now believe that bombs won't destroy a nation. Whats happening now is how you kill a country. economic failure thats what I think anyways.

[Raine_Loire]

On 2008-04-22 16:19, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
I think it's funny how every other country actually pays more for gas then America, yet Americans seem to complain the most about it.

THE JACKEL



You're saying we pay the least from an uniformed perspective. Sekani did the conversion for me for German gas, and that's how much it would cost ME as an American whose husband is paid in dollars, not euros. But we're in GERMANY and they are paid in EUROS not dollars. So the price is about 3.50 a gallon in Euros. And they're paid more as well. You're just not taking currency conversion into account.

In fact, Germans who come to the base to work here get paid in Euros because they're contracted through a german company. But they are allowed to buy groceries at our commissary, and the prices are in dollars. So a loaf of french bread is a euro at a German store, and a dollar at the commissary, by your logic, it's the same price? No- these civilian contractors not only get paid way more for doing a job than an american would, but on top of that, they pay about 66% of what they would be paying for groceries, clothes, cigarrettes, alcohol, even fast food.

Anyway, I digress, the point is, if you look at value of currency, we have to pay a larger percentage of our income towards gas than other countries. And for no obvious reason.

[Seority]

$0.
I ride my bike.
^_^

[Anduril]

Cheapest I saw in my area was like $3.59. But I usually fill up around campus and for regular it is betweeen $3.71 and $3.89. Luckily I can make it on $20 for a week an half since I drive like an old man. 20 miles back and forth everyday, though only 4 days a week. I should really consider signing up for my school's carpool program, but I'm afeared to go on the freeway, after an incident, so I'm street-bound.

[McLaughlin]

I ride my bike too. Looks like that won't be stopping anytime soon. >_>

[ljkkjlcm9]

Well where I work is literally right across the street. So I don't drive all that often. I fill up once maybe twice a month.

THE JACKEL

[Raine_Loire]

-_- I have to drive Laguna to work, he doesn't have a license... when you figure in that it's round trips, plus morning and afternoon pt, plus lunch, I make the drive 10 times a day. It's only about 9 miles, but it adds up fast. Plus it's an hours drive to a town since we're in farmland. I fill up once a week... it would be more if I didn't have a stick.

[SStrikerR]

$3.38 around here. *Remembers back in summer '03 it was $.99 a gallon*

[Sekani]

In the three days since I made this thread gas prices have jumped ten cents per gallon. I'm seriously considering taking the bus to work from now on, even though it's a 3-hour trip one way.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

I walk, or if I must, I'll take the bus, and pretty soon, the subway or Shinkansen once I go to Japan.

[Sekani]

$4.45. Haven't driven to work in over a month.

[McLaughlin]

It was $1.26 a liter a couple days ago. Haven't checked since. Last week it was $1.38 though, so it's gone down a bit.

[Out_Kast]

Don't work in gallons, so it's litres.

Aand... it's £1.33 per litre.
Takes about... £70-80 to fill our car up.
Stupid people carrier >(

[Sekani]

For the metric impaired (or vice-versa), 1 gallon is roughly equal to 4 liters.

[Anduril]

Here the price for regular seems to have stabilized at about $4.25/gallon the past few weeks. Luckily I haven't had much reason to actually use my car as of late, so the price isn't effecting my wallet much.

[Sgt_Shligger]

$4.45. Haven't driven to work in over a month.

You've got it better than us in Wisconsin. The price has settled down to $3.99 a gallon and is fluctuating between said price and $4.50. Lucky we don't drive SUVs.

[Syl]

It's $4.35 right now at the cheapest. Thank god I can just ride a bike or take the bus wherever I'm needed to go >.>

[KodiaX987]

A gallon is what... 4L? At roughly 1.40$/L, that brings me to 5.60$ per gallon in Canadian bucks.

[Nitro Vordex]

$0.
I ride my bike.
^_^

Win.

Gas prices are one of the reasons as to why I'm not totally eager to get a car.(That, and insurance BS. >_>)

[Powder Keg]

Was like $4.22 a while ago, but it's gone down recently to like $4.10, and I've also seen a few other stations at $3.98 or so.

Thank god I only drive a four-cylinder.

[Brainwrecked]

Pittsburgh area (as close as I'll let you know) is hovering around $3.959 - $3.999. Came home today and saw prices "down" to $3.959 in my home town. Yay?

Diesel topped out at $4.799 a while ago, came back down to $4.599 a couple of days ago. Heard the price of diesel raised airline ticket prices, which meant the airlines sold less tickets, which resulted in less diesel consumption, which resulted in diesel coming back down.

I love these morons driving F-350, Hummers, and SUVs complaining about the prices. If you need those vehicles, fine. But using these vehicles for every-day purposes increases oil consumption, which increases demand, which increases price. Economics 101.

[Mixfortune]

It's about, 4.50 per gallon for regular around here...
I was going to say, I thought it was more expensive overall then what I was reading, then I realized this thread was from April and got a nice three month bump.

[SkywalkerPSO]

last week when I went on vacation gas was at $4.19, of course.... now that I'm home and done traveling for a bit gas has come down to $3.85.... It's not fun filling up a '04 Escalade when your getting low on gas! Costs me about $90-$100 to fill my tank. Pretty sad when ya get excited that gas has come DOWN to $3.85. I miss the days of $1.05 and under gas!!!!!! Every time I fill my tank I think to myself.... OUCH, I coulda bought 2 new video games with all that loot! =(

[McLaughlin]

Why do you need to drive an Escalade?

[Nitro Vordex]

Why do you need to drive an Escalade?

Because paying more money on gas than your car is fun.







Oh wait.

[Anduril]

Because paying more money on gas than your car is fun.


Oh wait.
My parents got sick of having to waste $100 to fill the tank on their SUV so they decided to replace it with a Ford Focus. The thing get's great mileage being only a 4-cylinder, so they waste like 1/3 of the money they did with the SUV a week.

[Donut_Hunter]

Not sure about the average price, but I payed $4.20 a gallon in New York near Buffalo.

I'm tired of people bitching about gas prices when they drive gas hogs and drive around by themselves in them.

1. Shut up
2. Don't drive
3. Get a new car

Pick any of those if you feel the constant need to bitch about high prices.

Also ticks me off when people reminisce about times when gas was around a dollar a gallon. Most of the people I see doing this have only been driving two years max.

I recently bought a 2008 Toyota Yaris. With my driving habits I get around 36-40 mpg. I rarely have another person in my car, I don't need a big one. With the daily drive I'll be making to college it will pay itself off just from gas savings compared to the Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo I drove before. Including the actual price of the car it's also cheaper than living on campus, which I don't plan to do until I'm able to live somewhere besides the crappy freshmen dorms.

I still have the Jeep. It has a lift kit and a bunch of other fun mods. Great for off-roading.

[HeartBreak301]

About $3.80-$4.00 here in northeast Ohio.