English content update for April 25 (MAG, LV20 type cap!)

[EspioKaos]

http://xbox360.phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=165

http://www.phantasystaruniverse.com/community_quests.php?item=20080422a

It looks like there's a lot more than originally expected!

MAG begins!
Our next major event kicks off with the missions Maximum Attack G (http://psupedia.info/Maximum_Attack_G) C-S, Gifts from Beyond (http://psupedia.info/Gifts from Beyond) and "Kiriban Get" (Milestone Challenge (http://psupedia.info/Milestone_Challenge) or whatever they call our version). The last day of this event will be May 22.

Also, for the duration of MAG, Clyez City will be prettied up with decorations specifically for the event.

Mission updates
The recent update the Japanese servers received to take care of the ability to AFK level photon arts will be hitting our servers with this update. The following missions are affected:
* The Black Nest
* Mad Creatures
* Plains Overlord
* Endrum Remnants
* Duel in the Ruins
* Scarred Planet
* Grove of Fanatics

New items
* Numerous new weapons and line shields will be added to the game.
* The PSO clothes (some of them, more to come later) will be released.
* New room goods.
* New items at Casino Voloyal including new music discs.
* Shitenkaku's offering box will be updated.

System updates
* GUARDIAN type level cap will be increased to LV20!
* Swords will be adjusted so that they gain an extra target.
* Chikki-kyorenjin will be nerfed. The base attack power will go from 202% to 161%. The second hit will go from 342% to 182%. PP cost will also be reduced.
* Rifle bullets will receive higher elemental percentages, attack power and accuracy. (This of course does not apply to non-elemental bullets.) Also, rifle PAs at LV31+ will receive the knockdown effect.
* LV31+ Killer Shot will receive a PP cost reduction.
* The cost of shooting a rifle without a PA linked will be reduced.
* The elemental percentage of low level laser cannon bullets will be increased.
* The PP cost of Gifoie, Gibarta, Gizonde, Gidiga, Nosdiga, Noszonde and Nosmegid will be reduced.
* Fighgunners' proficiency with machineguns, handguns and twin handguns will be upgraded from A to S.
* Guntechers' proficiency with wands will upgraded from A to S. They will also receive a boost in their base TP.
* Fortetechers will receive an HP boost.

EDIT: Added link to the English site's update post.
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EDIT: Added a few new bullets that SonicTeam recently added to their news post.

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[Arika]

LOL, so it is only that they haven't done all PA update yet, so they just put the "half" version of the update. and still remain the PA level boost -.-

EDIT: may I link this topic in official forum?


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[Danny_Dark]

Hmm...Nice...
Thanks for the Info Espio!

[Jakosifer]

Ohhhhh, haha, man I'm slow today. Nevermind this.


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[pizzagirl]

Well its nice to see we at least got part of the PA stuff http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif (Yay Lasers)

[Neith]

Well, everyone who planned on spamming the un-nerfed Chikki through MAG is in for a rude awakening http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

What I find odd though is that to my knowledge, we weren't aware of receiving Lv20 jobs on our version of the game until today- but ST still couldn't implement an update that was originally schedules for a few weeks ago? Strange.

My Fortegunner's jumping with joy though http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Freshellent]

Thanks for the heads up. I can't wait to spam lasers more.

[jayster]

sega saved themselves a little with being able to put out part of the pa adjustments and increasing level cap. I bet they only decided to raise level cap because they know how pissed we are.

[Danny_Dark]

Agreed...

[Dhylec]

While this can't silent players from complaining about the delayed AP adjustments, this update is pretty nice. Too bad I'd have to miss the first week of it. ;]

[Chibi_psu]

wtf no guntecher changes? :S

And about that mission update whats the point of no more afk bullet training fix if we dont have yet the pa patch?

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[Miyoko]

Sooo... We get the AFK leveling fix immidiately after JP, something players obviously don't want... But no PA EXP% boost.

... Sigh, sega. If it weren't for the other PA changes being included in this patch, I'm sure you'd be getting a knife in the eye very soon >_>

[SabZero]

I wish they would give specifics of what room/casino goods will come out. Same when they say "new weapons drops" etc.

[Demon-]

This will be an awesome update. I can wait for the PA exp adjustment easily with all this. Seriously, missing it isn't the end of the world lol.



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[beatrixkiddo]

So, no Chikki for MAG AND no PA exp update for MAG.

gg

:|

[DarkEliteRico]

well glad to see we're getting something, but jesus they still pissed me off royally with no PA rebalance and it still only leaves some people lvl'ing up shots like crazy till thursday night

[amtalx]

I guess I'll take it...

It just feels like were starving for goodness and ST hands us a shit sandwich. Its a shit sandwhich...but I'm sooooo hungry.

[DarkEliteRico]

i lol'ed so much i almost fell out of bed there

oh well guess fortegunner 20 is a start, once i get what i want from MAG it's back to rattlesnake hunting

[Dirkster111]

On 2008-04-22 05:32, Miyoko wrote:
Sooo... We get the AFK leveling fix immidiately after JP, something players obviously don't want... But no PA EXP% boost.

... Sigh, sega. If it weren't for the other PA changes being included in this patch, I'm sure you'd be getting a knife in the eye very soon >_>



That's what I'm wondering, doesn't really make sense to me. They might as well give us the master classes at this point.

[pikachief]

wow the mess up on the update so they try giving us what they can of the update, and MORE, yet u all still complain! im more than happy that my blackbull purchase didnt go to waste, and maybe mym love inferno will actually sell now XD lol

[relentless]

Awesome update. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[DEM_CIG]

Glad all the gi and nos spells are reduced.

[Sol_B4dguy]

Ok, so everything except the PA exp udate went through. I see no reason to complain about; MAG was all I was looking forward to.

(buys more laser BAs for Caboose >_>)

[Ami~]

I personally don't see anything wrong with it. I mean, we get all these other cool updates in exchange for not getting this one. I can wait a few weeks!!! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-22 06:08, Sol_B4dguy wrote:
Ok, so everything except the PA exp udate went through. I see no reason to complain about; MAG was all I was looking forward to.

(buys more laser BAs for Caboose >_>)



aww i want laser BAs!

[Sylpheed]

Hoorah for the class level increase, now i can finally begin to permanently cap classes.

[Arakasa]

still no word on the GT boost? D: booooo

[Rust]

Waaaahhh, how am i supposed to one shot mobs nao, i didn't even bought a brain ! Dx

This update is a good one, yet i'll have to check in the casino what those new items are.

[LuigiMario]

On 2008-04-22 06:09, Ami_ wrote:
I personally don't see anything wrong with it. I mean, we get all these other cool updates in exchange for not getting this one. I can wait a few weeks!!! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


No PA exp is what wrong. Are you blind?

[Arika]

On 2008-04-22 05:56, pikachief wrote:
wow the mess up on the update so they try giving us what they can of the update, and MORE, yet u all still complain! im more than happy that my blackbull purchase didnt go to waste, and maybe mym love inferno will actually sell now XD lol




why sell ?
I thought u said u bought it 99 mil.
so you won't getting profit lol.



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[Ami~]

On 2008-04-22 06:31, LuigiMario wrote:

On 2008-04-22 06:09, Ami_ wrote:
I personally don't see anything wrong with it. I mean, we get all these other cool updates in exchange for not getting this one. I can wait a few weeks!!! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


No PA exp is what wrong. Are you blind?



Not at all, I just think there's more to this game than just PA's~

[Rayokarna]

WTF no GT update.

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-22 06:37, Arika wrote:

On 2008-04-22 05:56, pikachief wrote:
wow the mess up on the update so they try giving us what they can of the update, and MORE, yet u all still complain! im more than happy that my blackbull purchase didnt go to waste, and maybe mym love inferno will actually sell now XD lol




why sell ?
I thought u said u bought it 99 mil.
so you won't getting profit lol.



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bought at 70 mil, trying to sell for 99 mil http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

and even if i bought at 99, i have 1 mil, im a little broke i would've tried getting my money back lol

[Andy1423]

sega saved themselves a little with being able to put out part of the pa adjustments and increasing level cap. I bet they only decided to raise level cap because they know how pissed we are.


Agreed...

HMMMMMM Does anyone see that they added the AFK nerf but neglected the PA exp adjustment.

Did they think that we would take advantange of AFK with new PA exp?

:/ very strange

[Golto]

I do find it strange that they can implement a very recent change from the JPN pc/ps2 but are having problems with something that happened about 2 months ago. Changing monsters' ai, tp, and resta values shouldn't be that much easier than changing PA exp ranges.

[Arika]

[b]On 2008-04-22 06:41,

Did they think that we would take advantange of AFK with new PA exp?



pretty sure they are trying to prevent that, so they wanted to update both (exp faster, and remove afk prac) at the same date.
however, due to some reason, they couldn't done the PA exp one.

[Chibi_psu]

i hope they give us at least the guntecher changes this friday....(doubt it)

[Cracka_J]

More deliberate candy coating, meant to distract from the obvious.
It's like someone giving you a really nice pair of shoes for free, so you won't be as upset when they shoot you in the foot.

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-22 07:03, chibichibi wrote:
i hope they give us at least the guntecher changes this friday....(doubt it)



they wont, whatever is there, is what we're getting.

sux cuz i just made a second cast just for guntecher and i wont get my boost yet :/ oh well i still love the class http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[-Tidus_415-]

I like the LV20 update since I love Maxing out every class. Time to restock on every type of weapon.

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-22 07:05, -Tidus_415- wrote:
I like the LV20 update since I love Maxing out every class. Time to restock on every type of weapon.




all i have is FG, FiG, PT, and AF to lvl 15 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

oh well, ime to get my FG and AF to 20 during event! then i'll do GT, PT, FiG, AT, FT, and possibly WT for Master classes, right after the event, along wiht soem PA leveling when that comes out!

oh with the next rykoss mission and then the moatoob one coming soon after i'll have plenty to do for a long time in PSU! XD

[panzer_unit]

On 2008-04-22 06:58, Golto wrote:
I do find it strange that they can implement a very recent change from the JPN pc/ps2 but are having problems with something that happened about 2 months ago. Changing monsters' ai, tp, and resta values shouldn't be that much easier than changing PA exp ranges.

Yeah, it's almost like there's some serious problem with that one update and it's really hard to fix : Such things never happen anywhere else in the software industry I'm sure.

I'm glad we got more than we bargained for on the rest, and a little jealous that gunners who bit the bullet and leveled element lasers while they sucked get to hold it over the rest of us for a while.

[Sekani]

I'd trade every ounce of this update in for the PA exp increase. That's the only reason I restarted my damned subscription.

[DarkEliteRico]

On 2008-04-22 06:40, pikachief wrote:

On 2008-04-22 06:37, Arika wrote:

On 2008-04-22 05:56, pikachief wrote:
wow the mess up on the update so they try giving us what they can of the update, and MORE, yet u all still complain! im more than happy that my blackbull purchase didnt go to waste, and maybe mym love inferno will actually sell now XD lol




why sell ?
I thought u said u bought it 99 mil.
so you won't getting profit lol.



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bought at 70 mil, trying to sell for 99 mil http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

and even if i bought at 99, i have 1 mil, im a little broke i would've tried getting my money back lol

If i had more cash i'd see if you'd work something out for the love inferno, but sadly i'm only sitting at 15+ mill right now.

half tempted to run the piss out of DG and snag a few rattlesnakes to sell/make to get the cash together to buy it, how long do you think you could hold onto it for?


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[pikachief]

On 2008-04-22 07:24, DarkEliteRico wrote:

On 2008-04-22 06:40, pikachief wrote:

On 2008-04-22 06:37, Arika wrote:

On 2008-04-22 05:56, pikachief wrote:
wow the mess up on the update so they try giving us what they can of the update, and MORE, yet u all still complain! im more than happy that my blackbull purchase didnt go to waste, and maybe mym love inferno will actually sell now XD lol




why sell ?
I thought u said u bought it 99 mil.
so you won't getting profit lol.



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bought at 70 mil, trying to sell for 99 mil http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

and even if i bought at 99, i have 1 mil, im a little broke i would've tried getting my money back lol

If i had more cash i'd see if you'd work something out for the love inferno, but sadly i'm only sitting at 15+ mill right now.

half tempted to run the piss out of DG and snag a few rattlesnakes to sell/make to get the cash together to buy it, how long do you think you could hold onto it for?


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i need the money before MAG ends...

making a little post-MAG event for u all the weekend MAG ends, and the prize money totals up to 30 mil lol.

[relentless]

On 2008-04-22 07:22, Sekani wrote:
That's the only reason I restarted my damned subscription.


lol *hasn't renewed subscription yet*

[Chibi_psu]

about the shitenkaku or the casino update any idea of what can we expect?Any new song or deco?

[Andy1423]

ON the good side of things, we'll get Awesome PSO music with old sckool maps. + paradi cataract

[pikachief]

idk about the box, but i do know we're most likely getting the robo pitch at the casino http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[pikachief]

oh and i LOVE Google translator!

here is a piece of the 4/18 update post

" Now everyone is reported to be late,
We apologize for any inconvenience and sincerely apologize for what you did."

LOL

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-22 07:28, chibichibi wrote:
about the shitenkaku or the casino update any idea of what can we expect?Any new song or deco?

From memory, the disc "Fight the Vicious Fate" was added to Voloyal's exchange counter during Japan's MAG. (Though, considering the boss this is the theme of, it might be released later in the event after we get to that particular point.) And since we're in the midst of the spring lobby, "Cherry Blossom" should be released, too.

[Golto]

On 2008-04-22 07:20, panzer_unit wrote:

On 2008-04-22 06:58, Golto wrote:
I do find it strange that they can implement a very recent change from the JPN pc/ps2 but are having problems with something that happened about 2 months ago. Changing monsters' ai, tp, and resta values shouldn't be that much easier than changing PA exp ranges.

Yeah, it's almost like there's some serious problem with that one update and it's really hard to fix : Such things never happen anywhere else in the software industry I'm sure.

I'm glad we got more than we bargained for on the rest, and a little jealous that gunners who bit the bullet and leveled element lasers while they sucked get to hold it over the rest of us for a while.


Look this is how difficult it would be to change Pa exp per hit

old way

for each successful hit
pa(x).exp = pa(x).exp +1


new way

for each successful hit

select case Pa(x).type

-case bullet
--hitexp=3
-case tech,skill
--hitexp=2
end case

pa(x).exp = pa(x).exp + hitexp

See they wouldn't even have to change the exp ranges and it would take a shorter amount of time to change than to compile the exe.

[EspioKaos]

Something I missed when I posted this earlier:

In our version of "Kiriban GET!!" (I'm calling it Milestone Challenge (http://psupedia.info/Milestone Challenge) until we get the official localization), each milestone is marked at the 50,000th kill instead of the 100,000th like it was for Japan's MAG.

[Sekani]

On 2008-04-22 07:38, Golto wrote:

Look this is how difficult it would be to change Pa exp per hit....




Spoken like someone who's never programmed anything except from a college textbook.

[Andy1423]

So is it only the player who kills the 50,000th creature for all milestone markings?

[Andy1423]

Spoken like someone who's never programmed anything except from a college textbook.

If the system was build correctly all they would have to do is change the values of integers

[amtalx]

On 2008-04-22 07:38, Golto wrote:

Look this is how difficult it would be to change Pa exp per hit

old way

for each successful hit
pa(x).exp = pa(x).exp +1


new way

for each successful hit

select case Pa(x).type

-case bullet
--hitexp=3
-case tech,skill
--hitexp=2
end case

pa(x).exp = pa(x).exp + hitexp

See they wouldn't even have to change the exp ranges and it would take a shorter amount of time to change than to compile the exe.



If software development were that easy, a lot of people would be out of jobs. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Knowing ST they have some really bizzare way of calculating PA experience that is most likely dependant on a whole series of other things it doesn't need to be dependant on.

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-22 07:59, Andy1423 wrote:
So is it only the player who kills the 50,000th creature for all milestone markings?

I think it's the entire party. I just went back over the Japanese MAG site and it says that points are added to the server tally once the event mission is cleared. If the party's total puts them at or above the necessary amount (in our case, a multiple of 50,000), the entire party is tagged to receive the reward. However, when you go to claim your reward, you have to do it individually since the claiming mission allows only one player. Also, the claim mission will be highlighted in red if you happened to miss the announcement at the end of the event mission telling you your party met a milestone.

[panzer_unit]

On 2008-04-22 07:38, Golto wrote:
Look this is how difficult it would be to change Pa exp per hit

old way

for each successful hit
pa(x).exp = pa(x).exp +1


new way

for each successful hit

select case Pa(x).type

-case bullet
--hitexp=3
-case tech,skill
--hitexp=2
end case

pa(x).exp = pa(x).exp + hitexp

See they wouldn't even have to change the exp ranges and it would take a shorter amount of time to change than to compile the exe.


Oh totally! I know exactly what you're talking about, there was this time I was flying on an airplane and the ride was pretty rough so I went into the cockpit and grabbed the controls away from the pilot because he was obviously stupid and incompetent for not being able to fly in a straight line.
Then the plane crashed because it wouldn't do anything I tried to make it do, it was probably put together by nimrods who had no idea how to put together jet engines and ailerons and stuff.

[EspioKaos]

Yeah, so how about taking the how-to-program argument elsewhere, please?

[Andy1423]

What are some of the other Milestone Marker Rewards?

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-22 08:13, Andy1423 wrote:
What are some of the other Milestone Marker Rewards?

If we go by Japan's version, [B] Bouquet was it. They might surprise us and add some other stuff, though.

[Miyoko]

... That's... Really lame... o_o It basically picks one player at random and gives them a price... wtf...

[Criss]

I'm kinda disappointed that we're not getting the GT tech boost, but lv 20 type cap is a nice surprise.

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-22 08:25, Miyoko wrote:
... That's... Really lame... o_o It basically picks one player at random and gives them a price... wtf...

No... whichever team gets the 50,000th kill (or subsequent multiples thereof) or puts the server total just over a 50,000 point mark gets the prize. It's not random.

[Pandaling]

I'm still disappointed that MAG will only last less than a month... 100 mil seems like a pretty big number :<

[AlMcFly]

Sooo jobs level 20 in this update also?!? I've read this thread a million times before. Have I just overlooked this aspect or was it recently added?

Edit: Ok, so I've noticed it's only 5 pages long. Did you just copy and repost most of the info from the 20+ page thread about the same thing?

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[Kinako78]

Never mind. I'm wasting my breath.



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[F-Gattaca]

I never AFK leveled my skills or bullets ... I never had a problem with leveling them out of active use. Even for the most excruciatingly hard-to-level ones like Killer Shot--which is a few % off of 40 right now--I never AFK leveled with.

And unlike half of the posters here, I'm not the type to look at the rest of the update and call it a candy coating or shit sandwich just because I don't get to level Killer Shot to 40 in two shots.

Maybe I come from another planet or something because not getting a PA EXP rate boost isn't a big deal to me and never was, and I never let my decision on whether or not to pay for PSU ride exclusively on how fast we can level them.

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-22 08:36, McFlyVII wrote:
Edit: Ok, so I've noticed it's only 5 pages long. Did you just copy and repost most of the info from the 20+ page thread about the same thing?

Nope, freshly typed info from what was posted on the Japanese 360 site this morning.

[Kinako78]

On 2008-04-22 08:45, F-Gattaca wrote:
I never AFK leveled my skills or bullets ... I never had a problem with leveling them out of active use. Even for the most excruciatingly hard-to-level ones like Killer Shot--which is a few % off of 40 right now--I never AFK leveled with.

And unlike half of the posters here, I'm not the type to look at the rest of the update and call it a candy coating or shit sandwich just because I don't get to level Killer Shot to 40 in two shots.

Maybe I come from another planet or something because not getting a PA EXP rate boost isn't a big deal to me and never was, and I never let my decision on whether or not to pay for PSU ride exclusively on how fast we can level them.



I must be from that same planet.

[Phoenix_Black]

On 2008-04-22 08:30, Pandaling wrote:
I'm still disappointed that MAG will only last less than a month... 100 mil seems like a pretty big number :<



We'll probibly have smaller goals, just like we did with 1up cup. The milestones re larger to accomodate JPs amazing population and determination.

[Battlestar]

On 2008-04-22 08:45, F-Gattaca wrote:
I never AFK leveled my skills or bullets ... I never had a problem with leveling them out of active use. Even for the most excruciatingly hard-to-level ones like Killer Shot--which is a few % off of 40 right now--I never AFK leveled with.

And unlike half of the posters here, I'm not the type to look at the rest of the update and call it a candy coating or shit sandwich just because I don't get to level Killer Shot to 40 in two shots.

Maybe I come from another planet or something because not getting a PA EXP rate boost isn't a big deal to me and never was, and I never let my decision on whether or not to pay for PSU ride exclusively on how fast we can level them.



how did you level all your other bullets if you spent the last 3 years getting killer shot to 40?

Don't lie http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif everyone AFK bullets.

[F-Gattaca]

On 2008-04-22 08:49, Kinako78 wrote:
I must be from that same planet.


*notices Kinako is from planet New Texas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3F5dot4pk) Texas, the same as him*

Well, they always did say Texas is like a whole different world!

[panzer_unit]

On 2008-04-22 08:36, McFlyVII wrote:
Sooo jobs level 20 in this update also?!? I've read this thread a million times before. Have I just overlooked this aspect or was it recently added?


I don't blame you for missing the type cap increase, you're still way ahead of the curve if that makes you feel better... most people missed the parts about MAG and PA changes as well. It's all about the PA experience boost because nobody's managed to cap any skills in the history of the game so far.

[Pandaling]

On 2008-04-22 08:51, Phoenix_Black wrote:

On 2008-04-22 08:30, Pandaling wrote:
I'm still disappointed that MAG will only last less than a month... 100 mil seems like a pretty big number :<



We'll probibly have smaller goals, just like we did with 1up cup. The milestones re larger to accomodate JPs amazing population and determination.



Well I'm sure we'll have smaller goals... but Chillaura already mentioned that we'd get more rewards IF we surpass 100m... which makes me wonder how much lower will the lower the goals to accommodate us :s

[McLaughlin]

The Sword buff is all I read. >_>

Thanks for the heads up Espio.

[amtalx]

On 2008-04-22 08:56, Battlestar wrote:

On 2008-04-22 08:45, F-Gattaca wrote:
I never AFK leveled my skills or bullets ... I never had a problem with leveling them out of active use. Even for the most excruciatingly hard-to-level ones like Killer Shot--which is a few % off of 40 right now--I never AFK leveled with.

And unlike half of the posters here, I'm not the type to look at the rest of the update and call it a candy coating or shit sandwich just because I don't get to level Killer Shot to 40 in two shots.

Maybe I come from another planet or something because not getting a PA EXP rate boost isn't a big deal to me and never was, and I never let my decision on whether or not to pay for PSU ride exclusively on how fast we can level them.



how did you level all your other bullets if you spent the last 3 years getting killer shot to 40?

Don't lie http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif everyone AFK bullets.



I've never AFK leveled and I have more bullets at 40 than not. Even those below 40 have been leveled above 31.

Sicne my bullets are at 40, the experience boost won't really effect me much. But the point is that they said they would deliver on something after already delaying it...and then they didn't.



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[AlMcFly]

On 2008-04-22 08:59, F-Gattaca wrote:

On 2008-04-22 08:49, Kinako78 wrote:
I must be from that same planet.


*notices Kinako is from planet New Texas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3F5dot4pk) Texas, the same as him*

Well, they always did say Texas is like a whole different world!



More like, the mid-western states are the only ones that still teach their children "What you get will directly be a reflection of how much work you put into it."

The one thing I found out after living a good deal in the coastal states is the surprising majority mentality that you DESERVE your rewards without having to earn them. (Now don't get all butthurt if you live on the coast. I said "majority", not each and every person.) I don't know if it is a product of the media in society or what.

It's my personal belief, for so many reasons, that this is a direct result of the continual feminization/left-wing-izing of America. Don't even get me started on this rant.

[F-Gattaca]

On 2008-04-22 08:56, Battlestar wrote:
how did you level all your other bullets if you spent the last 3 years getting killer shot to 40?

Don't lie http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif everyone AFK bullets.



Because Killer Shot doesn't take three years to level? In fact I got it to 30 in maybe a month's time of half-assed usage from looking for a Muzzlefever prior to 1-UP/AotI. Killer Shot leveled to 30 long before I actually found one.

Not everyone resorts to AFK leveling like you think, so wipe the smirk off your face. Some of us actually play the game.

[Kinako78]

On 2008-04-22 08:59, F-Gattaca wrote:

On 2008-04-22 08:49, Kinako78 wrote:
I must be from that same planet.


*notices Kinako is from planet New Texas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3F5dot4pk) Texas, the same as him*

Well, they always did say Texas is like a whole different world!



*laughs* Yep, I guess we really are from a different planet. XD

[Rust]

On 2008-04-22 08:45, F-Gattaca wrote:
I never AFK leveled my skills or bullets ... I never had a problem with leveling them out of active use. Even for the most excruciatingly hard-to-level ones like Killer Shot--which is a few % off of 40 right now--I never AFK leveled with.

And unlike half of the posters here, I'm not the type to look at the rest of the update and call it a candy coating or shit sandwich just because I don't get to level Killer Shot to 40 in two shots.

Maybe I come from another planet or something because not getting a PA EXP rate boost isn't a big deal to me and never was, and I never let my decision on whether or not to pay for PSU ride exclusively on how fast we can level them.



Welcome to my world. (Disappointing, but i'm not from Texas.)

[stukasa]

I'm pretty happy with this update. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif After reading that thread (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=174198&forum=20&171) about the PA rebalance delay I was afraid we weren't getting anything besides MAG this week (as if that wasn't enough by itself!).

I agree with previous posters when I say I think they should tell us what they're adding to the casino and offering box. ESPECIALLY the offering box, since I don't want to dump a pile of A-rank weapons and armor for something I don't even want. ;o

(I hope the PSUpedia offering box list is updated regularly! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif)

[DreXxiN]

I'm not HORRIBLY angered about the PA boost not being increased, but the fact that it was delayed once, then delayed AGAIN for MUCH longer is very, VERY upsetting. I'm pretty money tight at the moment, and whether it's a "big deal" or not, I'm still paying for imcompetence and false promises.

I really do think MAG will be a blast, and am still strongly anticipating it, though the no Guntecher rebalance thing really did turn me off.. =/

[Jarek]

I'm glad the other pa changes are going into effect. MP won't be a total waste now since the types are going to level 20.
I laughed at them snuffing out most of the afk leveling spots so quickly.

[DraginHikari]

Seems like a reasonable update... though most people aren't going to let that one thing go.

[Follisimo]

Updates are fine and I can wait on the PA boost. Classes going to 20 will be nice to give that extra little boost. I'm happy to see the chikki nerf. I wanna see all these people who brag about their speed runs do them after the chikki nerf and see the time difference.

All I am waiting for now is the official points needed for MAG.

[Ahkaskar]

Actually, I don't even remember reading about this PA update before. I was reading all the whining on the official forums and feeling a little peeved, but then I get to the JP site and read that the bullet and technic changes are still going in. Suffice to say I think I was never aware of this problem to begin with.

On the whole though, bullets are not hard to level. It used to be hard, and then it got easy. Now this update ought to bring them about to the point where they'll practically level themselves through regular use.

I was also surprised to see that I'd be getting the PSO parts (http://xbox360.phantasystaruniverse.jp/image/news/20080425/parts_off.jpg) that I'm after. I was fully expecting to see "everything but" in the update, not that there's a lot else for them to give and I'd probably be waiting all of another week or two. Just a little preemptively bitter considering I had to wait three months for parts I realized I didn't like. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

I also might add to the people who are complaining that it's easy to program changes... I highly doubt that these updates even involve hard-code. PSU most likely has tons of tables which outline the growth of just about every aspect of the game. Mis-entering one cell could mean that level 20 goes by in two shots, so they have to be careful to monitor this kind of growth. Otherwise leveling to 30 overnight won't be just an expression, and everyone will be incredibly pissed at THAT rollback.

If you think it's easy to modify this kind of stuff, go make a mod for Diablo 2 or Neverwinter Nights and come back to me. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


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[DreXxiN]

I don't think people realise you'll still be doing Close to 3k with a high % Slicer and Chikki 40

[desturel]

On 2008-04-22 08:45, F-Gattaca wrote:
I never AFK leveled my skills or bullets ...


I've never AFK leveled anything in this game, however I will mention that they have actually made it "harder" to level rifles and lasers by increasing their damage output, but not adjusting the amount of EXP you get per shot.

Since the rifles and lasers are stronger, you kill things quicker. Because you kill things quicker, you are shooting less shots. Because you are shooting less shots, you get less EXP per monster killed. Less EXP per monster killed = more runs to get the exp needed to level a bullet.

So by putting in one adjustment without the other adjustment people who have not already leveled their skills to 31 are screwed.

[Kinako78]

On 2008-04-22 09:43, Ahkaskar wrote:
I was also surprised to see that I'd be getting the PSO parts (http://xbox360.phantasystaruniverse.jp/image/news/20080425/parts_off.jpg) that I'm after. I was fully expecting to see "everything but" in the update, not that there's a lot else for them to give and I'd probably be waiting all of another week or two. Just a little preemptively bitter considering I had to wait three months for parts I realized I didn't like. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

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No HUnewearl clothes yet? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[panzer_unit]

On 2008-04-22 09:54, desturel wrote:
I've never AFK leveled anything in this game, however I will mention that they have actually made it "harder" to level rifles and lasers by increasing their damage output, but not adjusting the amount of EXP you get per shot.

Since the rifles and lasers are stronger, you kill things quicker. Because you kill things quicker, you are shooting less shots. Because you are shooting less shots, you get less EXP per monster killed. Less EXP per monster killed = more runs to get the exp needed to level a bullet.

So by putting in one adjustment without the other adjustment people who have not already leveled their skills to 31 are screwed.


... if you use the WRONG element you do a lot LESS damage, if you use a NEUTRAL element it's no different. I know, that's no fun. It's so much more enjoyable to complain.

[TUSCAN]

[/quote]It's my personal belief, for so many reasons, that this is a direct result of the continual feminization/left-wing-izing of America. Don't even get me started on this rant.
[quote]

please elaborate. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the subject. rant away!

[omegapirate2k]

This is a great update, looking forward to it, thanks for the heads up espio!

[Yuneiko]

Hrm, I'm excited for the new stuff. Are people never excited for new stuff? Oh well, no guntecher update means I have that much more time before I head back to the class to play around with other classes, I still want to finish up my unfinished protranser levels.

[Darius_Drake]

I am seriously excited now. I was just checking to see if there was a possibility of the job cap being increased. Wish granted. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Da_Wrecka]

So let me get this straight...As of Thursday, they're making it impossible to AFK bullets and certain techs, without making it possible to level them naturally?

Can we say "bullshit"?

[landman]

Great Great Great, I have 12 jobs to cap in different characters and maybe I will try to cap new ones, 500 mission points per missions, piece of cake http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Neith]

On 2008-04-22 10:16, Kinako78 wrote:
No HUnewearl clothes yet? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



Even if not, we should receive them sometime during the event anyway, so at most, a couple of weeks.

[desturel]

On 2008-04-22 10:35, panzer_unit wrote:
... if you use the WRONG element you do a lot LESS damage, if you use a NEUTRAL element it's no different. I know, that's no fun. It's so much more enjoyable to complain.


Incorrect. When the replace the elemental percentages, they are also boosting the attack percentages. The attack percentage of elemental bullets gets a 20% increase. The elemental boost on a level 31 rifle bullet is 7%. You will be doing a significant amount more even with the incorrect element.

Even if the elemental boost and the attack boost were the same percentage, you would still do more damage as attack percentage affects a larger amount of ATP/ATT than elemental percentage.

The only way your statement would be correct would be if elemental percentage was boosted, but attack percentage remained the same.

It would be nice if you did some research before throwing out random insults.

I have four rifle bullets to 31 currently (fire, ice, dark, killer) as I mentioned in ye olden thread (http://pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=171641&forum=22&21) with two of those at 27+ (grav and rising) and one that I rarely if ever use (lightning shot, only level 11). So this hardly affects me as much as it affects other people who have not leveled these bullets previously.

[panzer_unit]

On 2008-04-22 11:20, desturel wrote:

On 2008-04-22 10:35, panzer_unit wrote:
... if you use the WRONG element you do a lot LESS damage, if you use a NEUTRAL element it's no different. I know, that's no fun. It's so much more enjoyable to complain.


Incorrect. When the replace the elemental percentages, they are also boosting the attack percentages. The attack percentage of elemental bullets gets a 20% increase. The elemental boost on a level 31 rifle bullet is 7%.

Oh rifles. I was thinking lasers which are just getting element boosts.

Still:
20% is relative to your base attack
7% is relative to your total non-elemental damage, which is almost twice as high

The difference is going to be minimal if higher at all.

[Kietrinia]

Oh wow! I'll get to level up my FT even more! Now I'll be able to even push Force to level 20 for fun. XD

Guess I need to spend a few nights in Rozenom to get a couple more cheap TECHNIC levels off before the update too. >.>;;

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[Pandaling]

On 2008-04-22 10:58, Da_Wrecka wrote:
So let me get this straight...As of Thursday, they're making it impossible to AFK bullets and certain techs, without making it possible to level them naturally?

Can we say "bullshit"?


There is a way to level them naturally... it's called DO RUNS.

Sheesh, people seem to think that the only way to level bullets is to afk <<;; The point of them leveling at all is so that you grow stronger as you play... what's so fun about being maxed out before you even really get started...



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[Kinako78]

On 2008-04-22 11:13, UrikoBB3 wrote:

On 2008-04-22 10:16, Kinako78 wrote:
No HUnewearl clothes yet? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



Even if not, we should receive them sometime during the event anyway, so at most, a couple of weeks.



Yeah, you're right. My apologies.

[AlMcFly]

Yeah, I haven't leveled a lot of range weapon PA's but I didn't think it was THAT terribly long. I can assume leveling a laser PA (which is slow as molasses) can be quite tedious. It's supposed to be though because laser will have a HUGE damage potential by the time it is at 40. Far higher than most other guns.

I ACCIDENTALLY leveled dark bullet on handgun to 15 and I ONLY used it in the time it took to level Force job to 10 on White Beast S runs. Now if any of you know what I am referring to, it basically happened in a span of maybe a few hours. "LOL TOO LONG TO LEVEL BULLETS WAAAH!!!"

I have a super packed life (every weekday I leave at 6:30 am and don't get home until 10 pm) and I'm not even complaining about PA's. I like to complain too! I don't even see why getting the bullets to 40 are a priority anyway.

1. The game is too easy anyway.

2. What are you going to do when you get them all to 40? You don't get anything special.

I'll tell you what you are going to do. You will BAAAW for a few weeks about how there isn't anything left in the game to do and when the developers don't add anything to your liking, you will cancel your account. You will still peruse the forums from time to time posting the occasional "That's exactly why I left" posts, and wait for something new to make you activate your account.

One of my main gripes about the feminization of America, is people expecting sh*t to come easy. Like getting a 7th place trophy in little league baseball. WTF IS THAT? How about you teach a child to actually work to get rewards. You can't reward losses, it's retarded.

[AmyPsycho]

... THis is nice and all, but are you kidding? I thought the PA xp increase was coming now. Why are you taking away afk and making this stuff still harder to level? Is there really a purpose behind it?

Odd that that update made it over here so quick when everything else takes two months.


I really like the overall updates, but this lack of PA extra exp % added with taking away afk just adds to the feeling that this game becomes a long winded, reward-free grind after a while.

[SonicTMP]

Ahhh classis game developer bullshit.

We don't get the PA rebalance, but they are more than happy to nerf chika (persaonally dont care) AND put in the afk leveling nerf which we logically shouldn't get for 2 months or so.

WHy is it they can't put in the PA rebalance, something we were over scheduled to get but they give us the AFK nerf the update right after it's put in japan? And I thoguht coding was hard....

[CelestialBlade]

So they can give us this AFK-level-fixing thing, barf out more Force favoritism, but still no GT update? What the hell. Next thing you know we'll get Masterclasses before that and there won't be a point anyway. And while I'm not a programmer, I do not understand why we haven't gotten the PA EXP boost, either. Say what you will about how we're all supposed to "work hard" for all our stuff or whatever good 'ol boy lingo you want to throw in there, there's still no reason we can get the AFK-leveling fix but not this. And it doesn't matter which one's easier to program.

The Ranger update is nice though, considering we've gotten the shaft since AoI started while ST jerks off to Fortefighters and Fortetechers. Just looking for a little consistency in this, that's all.

[-Tidus_415-]

Angry Guntechers.

[F-Gattaca]

On 2008-04-22 11:54, Typheros wrote:
So they can give us this AFK-level-fixing thing, barf out more Force favoritism, but still no GT update? What the hell. Next thing you know we'll get Masterclasses before that and there won't be a point anyway.


Wait--why would there be no point if Master types come in? I thought they were going to provide new ways to play and not subsume all the other types?

At least ... looking at their abilities, that's what it seemed like. (Yeah, the Master type videos were awesome to see but even then.)

[darkante]

I have read some post here and now stating why we should not flame ST because look of bla bla perspective.

I GET IT ALREADY! I know these things are hard to maintain..but i would like ST a whola lot more if they were a little more discrete with the annoncement until they are 100 % sure it will go underway.
Hell why not announce what update has been put in in after the maintence has been done?
Suprise annoncement is always fun! >.>

[PALRAPPYS]

Meh, super fast leveling PA's can wait. PSU is already too easy, so why will need to kill Dark Falz so fast with lv40 Photon Arts?

Go Update! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Everything in it is awesome. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

[CelestialBlade]

On 2008-04-22 11:57, F-Gattaca wrote:

On 2008-04-22 11:54, Typheros wrote:
So they can give us this AFK-level-fixing thing, barf out more Force favoritism, but still no GT update? What the hell. Next thing you know we'll get Masterclasses before that and there won't be a point anyway.


Wait--why would there be no point if Master types come in? I thought they were going to provide new ways to play and not subsume all the other types?

At least ... looking at their abilities, that's what it seemed like. (Yeah, the Master type videos were awesome to see but even then.)


PM'd since it's unrelated to the thread.

[AlMcFly]

On 2008-04-22 11:59, darkante wrote:
I have read some post here and now stating why we should not flame ST because look of bla bla perspective.

I GET IT ALREADY! I know these things are hard to maintain..but i would like ST a whola lot more if they were a little more discrete with the annoncement until they are 100 % sure it will go underway.
Hell why not announce what update has been put in in after the maintence has been done?
Suprise annoncement is always fun! >.>

Hi hi! My post wasn't at all directed at you. I actually agree with you whole-heartedly. Don't announce anything unless you are 100% sure it is coming on that date. Since it is impossible to be 100% sure, unless you can see the future, don't announce at all. We have no announcement, we have no BAWWWING over things being promised and not delivered upon. Don't give into the questioners "since Japon got this, when are we???" Let us speculate and give it to us when you decide. Don't tell us anything. Problem solved!

Edit: We need better communication however when problems arise ie: servers crashing and whatnot. Being hush hush on the updates does not mean you can be completely hush-hush about all other aspects of the game.

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[ACEAILANT]

Team AWESOME'D!!

[Kylie]

Now I have to use my main during MA:G. *sigh*

[Inazuma]

grove of fanatics is one of the missions that will be adjusted to prevent afk leveling?
is that the mission in the hakura temple on newdays? b/c the jp ver didnt have that one adjusted yet.

[Katrina]

MAG
XP Boost
The Trader items
Synth Bonus
New Music
PSO missions
Level 20 Types
New weeapons / shields
PSO Clothes

sounds good to me

[CelestialBlade]

On 2008-04-22 12:32, Inazuma wrote:
grove of fanatics is one of the missions that will be adjusted to prevent afk leveling?
is that the mission in the hakura temple on newdays? b/c the jp ver didnt have that one adjusted yet.


That's the mission, supposedly ST thinks it's a "place where people might AFK-level just because something has Resta ohmygod" so they're taking Resta from the female Armed Servant. That was one of the few missions left that actually had a semblance of challenge if you didn't have Killer Shot, and a lot of it was trying to keep up with the Armed Servants healing everything. You can't AFK-level off of them anyway because they do not have the predictable Go Vahra AI and actually *won't* heal themselves unless you're engaged in battle with them. Just a REALLY dumb move by ST.

[Randomness]

On 2008-04-22 11:54, Typheros wrote:
So they can give us this AFK-level-fixing thing, barf out more Force favoritism, but still no GT update? What the hell. Next thing you know we'll get Masterclasses before that and there won't be a point anyway. And while I'm not a programmer, I do not understand why we haven't gotten the PA EXP boost, either. Say what you will about how we're all supposed to "work hard" for all our stuff or whatever good 'ol boy lingo you want to throw in there, there's still no reason we can get the AFK-leveling fix but not this. And it doesn't matter which one's easier to program.

The Ranger update is nice though, considering we've gotten the shaft since AoI started while ST jerks off to Fortefighters and Fortetechers. Just looking for a little consistency in this, that's all.



Forces are getting cost reductions in gi- and nos- techs. Rangers are getting boosts in rifles and lasers. Seems to me like both of them are getting boosted in useful areas. Hunters are also getting nothing here, which is good, since they were already over the top in power. Yay for chikki nerf.

[Miyuki]

On 2008-04-22 12:33, Katrina wrote:
MAG
XP Boost
The Trader items
Synth Bonus
New Music
PSO missions
Level 20 Types
New weeapons / shields
PSO Clothes

sounds good to me



No synth bonus yet

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Just to make sure about something.... For the AFK.... Let says i do a buff party with some friends ( dont have a turbon controller) but im not really watch the game....watching tv while im doing....Would the game end or something......then again i dont think thats considered AFK since i really didnt leave my controller.

[Zorafim]

Erm, wow... That, erm... That's not at all what we're talking about.

[Mysterious-G]

On 2008-04-22 12:50, Charger89 wrote:
Just to make sure about something.... For the AFK.... Let says i do a buff party with some friends ( dont have a turbon controller) but im not really watch the game....watching tv while im doing....Would the game end or something......then again i dont think thats considered AFK since i really didnt leave my controller.



LMAO. then again i dont think thats considered AFK since i really didnt leave my controller.
LOL!
Don`t worry! Nothing like that will happen! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/whip.gif



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[Mewnie]

On 2008-04-22 12:50, Charger89 wrote:
Just to make sure about something.... For the AFK.... Let says i do a buff party with some friends ( dont have a turbon controller) but im not really watch the game....watching tv while im doing....Would the game end or something......then again i dont think thats considered AFK since i really didnt leave my controller.



I think they're just nerfing the spots in the game where you can afk level bullets ad infinitum.

Since buffs and debuffs don't actually damage their targets, they don't count.

[CelestialBlade]

On 2008-04-22 12:50, Charger89 wrote:
Just to make sure about something.... For the AFK.... Let says i do a buff party with some friends ( dont have a turbon controller) but im not really watch the game....watching tv while im doing....Would the game end or something......then again i dont think thats considered AFK since i really didnt leave my controller.


Nah, ST's not up to THAT task XD What they're doing is removing Resta from any monster than can cast it, and calling it an "AFK leveling solution."

Though if a group of special forces wearing Sonic masks break into your house and shoot you on sight....I'm sorry I mislead you o_o

[desturel]

On 2008-04-22 12:36, Typheros wrote:
You can't AFK-level off of them anyway because they do not have the predictable Go Vahra AI and actually *won't* heal themselves unless you're engaged in battle with them.

There is a map in grove that I'm sure can be used for AFK leveling. The C map (immediate crossroad, boxes at the front. enemies at the sides) where you get the three Ozuna on the bridge after you get the first key ( four boxes behind a laser fence and a healing spot after the second room). After you open the door and the three Ozuna spawn, you can run back into the box room and shoot the Ozuna with rifles. Since they can't hit you with Foie, they'll normally just cast resta over and over again.

At the time I found this out it pissed me off to no end (pre-AotI when Grove S2 was just released). It took me 30 mins to kill the three Ozuna on the bridge, but it was the only way to kill them without dying myself since their foie was pretty tough when soloing back in the before time. I'm not sure how well it would have worked after the elemental and power update though. Maybe as a female neuman guntecher level 1 with 1* neudaiz rifles and a hard hit charge you would be able to not kill them while AFKing (yes I know I'm exaggerating, but that's besides the point).

[Dark Emerald EXE]

O the King Vahras.......i forgot they thats how people afk bullets n what not.......i never did it so i never really looked into it.

Well leveling still wont b as hard....just have to actaully do runs rather then AFK XD

[EspioKaos]

http://www.phantasystaruniverse.com/community_quests.php?item=20080422a

^ Official English site update notes.

[McLaughlin]

I'm not quite sure why they're nerfing Grove either. I'm sure the AFKers on 360 avoid it because robots = memory leak. Though...I suppose that wouldn't matter much if you aren't playing...>_>

[Mysterious-G]

Ohh... If I read that properly, it says that we will get ALL PSO clothes at once. Yes'm! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
(If yes, gotta update your main post, Esp. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif)

And thanks for bringing us the infos, Espio. As always. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif




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[CelestialBlade]

On 2008-04-22 13:16, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
I'm not quite sure why they're nerfing Grove either. I'm sure the AFKers on 360 avoid it because robots = memory leak. Though...I suppose that wouldn't matter much if you aren't playing...>_>


I wasn't even aware people tried to AFK-level on anything but King Go Vahras, Olgohmon, or Vanda. There may be alternatives to those but I don't think it'd be anywhere near as easy to set up.

[RemiusTA]

fuck MAG , fuck the mission rebalances.

I want my my PA Level speed alterations goddammit.

[Mikura]

On 2008-04-22 13:28, RemiusTA wrote:
fuck MAG , fuck the mission rebalances.

I want my my PA Level speed alterations goddammit.



Seconded. (Although I really am looking forward to MAG and the other PA adjustments. I just wanted the PA exp boost the most).

[Kerry157]

On 2008-04-22 07:38, Golto wrote:

Look this is how difficult it would be to change Pa exp per hit

old way

for each successful hit
pa(x).exp = pa(x).exp +1


new way

for each successful hit

select case Pa(x).type

-case bullet
--hitexp=3
-case tech,skill
--hitexp=2
end case

pa(x).exp = pa(x).exp + hitexp

See they wouldn't even have to change the exp ranges and it would take a shorter amount of time to change than to compile the exe.





I doubt PHANTASY STAR UNIVERSE was written using Java in TextPad, lulz.

[Powder Keg]

I'd delay MAG before I delayed the PA rebalance.

[Mikura]

On 2008-04-22 13:38, Artea wrote:
I'd delay MAG before I delayed the PA rebalance.



Guess it depends what camp you're in. Seems right now, you have people divided into two groups: Team PA (PA exp boost > MAG), and Team MAG (MAG > PA exp boost).



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[aquafire]

*sides with Team PA* razonde level 40 plz.

[AlMcFly]

*Sides with Team MAG* Although actually, I may side with Team PA for the simple fact that it will delay all those posers from coming back only for the MAG event. If MAG is delayed further, they may forget and decide to quit for good. Freakin hypocrites.

[Zorafim]

I'm assuming team MAG is mostly hunters or casual players. Seeing how I consider myself both, that squarly puts myself in team MAG.
I think this update has enough in it, really. Yes, it'd be nice to have both, but I'd rather have a fun event (and a plenthoria of nice looking weapons and equipment [Heaven Punisher yay {lolbrackets}]) than being able to level faster. Especially since most of my good PAs are at lv30+ anyway, due to previous endevors.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Since i want to lvl my alts n get some nice stuff... Team MAG

I should do a poll bought this.
(idea came from Mikura)

[pikachief]

*sides with team MAG*

y? because i can wait to be lazy http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Sylpheed]

On 2008-04-22 13:49, Zorafim wrote:
I'm assuming team MAG is mostly hunters or casual players. Seeing how I consider myself both, that squarly puts myself in team MAG.
I think this update has enough in it, really. Yes, it'd be nice to have both, but I'd rather have a fun event (and a plenthoria of nice looking weapons and equipment [Heaven Punisher yay {lolbrackets}]) than being able to level faster. Especially since most of my good PAs are at lv30+ anyway, due to previous endevors.



I'd agree with everything you just said, if it was in the reverse of how you said it. The casual players are the ones that wan't the PA rebalancing becaue they're too god dam lazy to get off their asses and level them up now.

All my PA's that i use, which is melee at the current moment are also 30+. In all honesty i couldn't give a shit about the PA rebalancing. Why are so many people bitching about something that we don't even have yet? Can you not just be happy with a new event that's giving us a crap load of new content?

The only reason im even remotely interested at the moment is because SEGA seem to think they can shit in our faces repeatedly by promising content and failing to deliver it twice thinking we'll just sit and take it like good little followers. How they treat they're playerbase is quite honestly disgusting.



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[Chibi_psu]

where is team guntecher :S

[Para]

MAG's coming. Good update coming. Atleast we're getting something. Don't worry, be happy.

[Kylie]

On 2008-04-22 13:46, McFlyVII wrote:
*Sides with Team MAG* Although actually, I may side with Team PA for the simple fact that it will delay all those posers from coming back only for the MAG event. If MAG is delayed further, they may forget and decide to quit for good. Freakin hypocrites.


http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif Yeah, well, more people on our server can't be a bad thing, and if they are all hypocrites, at least we can attract some people that aren't by saying our community has grown. ;o Anyway, I think someone should make a poll about team MA:G and team PA. That would be interesting. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[pikachief]

it seems, with all the complaining, that people would rather have had nothing than no class lvl 20 or PA update >.>

at least their trying, because their compensating by giving us all another, great update instead because they werent able to get us the PA boost.

we never had the PA exp increase before, so y is it hurting u all so much? its not like we had it and they took it away and u miss it.

thats like saying someone will give u $100, this week, it comes around and he says "no wait i'll give it to u in a month" because for some reason or another he didnt have the $100 he was supposed to give u.

are u gonna complain about it the whole time or just wait patiently for your money? there is NOTHING u can do about this so please stop complaining and arguing it will not help anything in the least bit.


Be happy for what u do get and don't be mad at what you don't get.

[Sylpheed]

On 2008-04-22 14:10, pikachief wrote:
it seems, with all the complaining, that people would rather have had nothing than no class lvl 20 or PA update >.>

at least their trying, because their compensating by giving us all another, great update instead because they werent able to get us the PA boost.

we never had the PA exp increase before, so y is it hurting u all so much? its not like we had it and they took it away and u miss it.

thats like saying someone will give u $100, this week, it comes around and he says "no wait i'll give it to u in a month" because for some reason or another he didnt have the $100 he was supposed to give u.

are u gonna complain about it the whole time or just wait patiently for your money? there is NOTHING u can do about this so please stop complaining and arguing it will not help anything in the least bit.


Be happy for what u do get and don't be mad at what you don't get.



This is more or less what i just said.

>.>

<.<

[-Tidus_415-]

Photon Arts = Serious Business

[trentjosh]

yay for lvl 20 types and no slicer spamming x3

[Dark Emerald EXE]

On 2008-04-22 14:07, Para wrote:
MAG's coming. Good update coming. Atleast we're getting something. Don't worry, be happy.


Exactly ^_^

I mean atleast were get something.
Ironically since its a event.....your going to 4 maybe 5 stars n universe 1 & 2 24/7 on the 360 server lol not sure how it is for the PC PS2 server.

How are event time with you guys?????

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[Emblem00]

Sides with Team MAG* been waiting to long for this

[DraginHikari]

Now people are seperating themselves into Team to complain or approve of updates... this takes on a whole meaning of ridculious.

[garjian]

who would be sad enough to want to waste more of their boring life on white beast for another second yet alone week or whatever... MAG should be fun and i could give a sh*t how fast my PA's level for the next 2-3 weeks... snap out of it..!

[-Tidus_415-]

On 2008-04-22 14:05, chibichibi wrote:
where is team guntecher :S



Also Team Chikki

[DraginHikari]

On 2008-04-22 14:33, -Tidus_415- wrote:

On 2008-04-22 14:05, chibichibi wrote:
where is team guntecher :S



Also Team Chikki



While we're at it why don't we just add Team Job 20 too just for kicks?

[ChronoAurion]

I'm happy about the update, I've been waiting for MAG since I saw what it was like when japan got it, and the level twenty jobs and the rifle and laser boosts are an added plus. I don't really see why people are complaining so much. I also can't wait to get the ramarl clothes back, I hope they come in black.

[Ryudo]

The first post of this topic made me quite happy, Thank you as always Espio

the rest of this topic made me rage

[Da_Wrecka]

On 2008-04-22 11:54, SonicTMP wrote:
Ahhh classis game developer bullshit.

We don't get the PA rebalance, but they are more than happy to nerf chika (persaonally dont care) AND put in the afk leveling nerf which we logically shouldn't get for 2 months or so.

WHy is it they can't put in the PA rebalance, something we were over scheduled to get but they give us the AFK nerf the update right after it's put in japan?

My sentiments exactly. They treat us to a vicious beating with the Nerf bat, and then don't have the god-damn common courtesy to give us anything to soften the blows.

[AlMcFly]

On 2008-04-22 14:10, pikachief wrote:
thats like saying someone will give u $100, this week, it comes around and he says "no wait i'll give it to u in a month" because for some reason or another he didnt have the $100 he was supposed to give u.

are u gonna complain about it the whole time or just wait patiently for your money? there is NOTHING u can do about this so please stop complaining and arguing it will not help anything in the least bit.

I am on your side COMPLETELY. Being the mind that I am though, I see a way someone may argue with your analogy.

The difference is that we are actually putting money into what we are receiving.

So a better analogy may be:

"Your parents (Sega) are getting you and your sibling gifts. They try to keep it even but it isn't always easy. Your older brother (Japon) gets a car. Your parents don't have enough money (time, resources, approval, whatever their excuse is) to get you both a car but your older sibling gets seniority. You can b*tch and moan all you want, but nothing will change the fact that you will get it when you get. You WILL get it eventually though."

Hope that helps. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[PALRAPPYS]

On 2008-04-22 14:40, DraginHikari wrote:

On 2008-04-22 14:33, -Tidus_415- wrote:

On 2008-04-22 14:05, chibichibi wrote:
where is team guntecher :S



Also Team Chikki



While we're at it why don't we just add Team Job 20 too just for kicks?



No, we need Team Casino Rarz!

[Umberger]

On 2008-04-22 14:40, DraginHikari wrote:

While we're at it why don't we just add Team Job 20 too just for kicks?



Team Level Cap 140. =p

[fronebullare]

I don't think i can join team PA nor team MAG;I'm very upset with ST failing, yet again, to successfully execute what they promised and then trying to placate the community(whats left of it) by throwing a bunch of random, unannounced updates at us. And even though I'm not a programmer, I'm also confused as to why it's so difficult to give us a simple PA experience increase, especially since its been delayed once before. But, despite all this disappointment, I think that particular update can wait since we'll be plenty busy with MAG. Its not like people are going to go level their PAs instead of participate in MAG anyway (at least I wont).

[Yuneiko]

I thought I read that the PA exp increase update couldn't come because of it requiring another title update for the 360. Due to the higher ups wanting to "keep parity" between the 360 and PC/PS2, neither side gets it. At least, from what I read someone say when they asked Clumsy on the official forums about it.

[fronebullare]

On 2008-04-22 15:09, Yuneiko wrote:
I thought I read that the PA exp increase update couldn't come because of it requiring another title update for the 360. Due to the higher ups wanting to "keep parity" between the 360 and PC/PS2, neither side gets it. At least, from what I read someone say when they asked Clumsy on the official forums about it.

I haven't heard about that little piece of info. Interesting. I see no purpose in keeping "parity", seeing as how the 360 players and the PC/ps2 players have nothing to do with each other at all. Whats the problem if we are ahead of them in updates...

[Noblewine]

Sweet the game just go more interesting. Job classes at Lv 20 is no longer a pipe dream.

[Aries2384]

All this fucking whining. We are getting something to DO. We have MAG and type lvl to 20. Wah wah wah I can't decimate all with Chikki/Ican'tafkLvlmybullets/MyartsdontlvlfastersoIcantellpeopleImGodly Waaaaaah!
Sheesh guys! We're getting MAG hello! We havent had a single decenet event on this game for months. I say its high time for it. I can wait longer for the rebalance. Hell we're getting half of it! Chillax!

[GuardianElite]

On 2008-04-22 15:17, Aries2384 wrote:
All this fucking whining. We are getting something to DO. We have MAG and type lvl to 20. Wah wah wah I can't decimate all with Chikki/Ican'tafkLvlmybullets/MyartsdontlvlfastersoIcantellpeopleImGodly Waaaaaah!
Sheesh guys! We're getting MAG hello! We havent had a single decenet event on this game for months. I say its high time for it. I can wait longer for the rebalance. Hell we're getting half of it! Chillax!


maybe they should charge 5.99 instead of 9.99

[Soda]

HAHA! for u afk ppl

ps;they didnt take all of them away O.O

[Yuneiko]

Found the post about the "parity between servers" part I read.
Read it at
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=174198&forum=20&start=225&240#228

[AmyPsycho]

hm.. I'm definitely disappointed theres no PA xp boost yet, but that will definitely not ruin my excitement of MAG. At least I'll be inspired to use my techs enough to level them in MAG... afterwards will probably be the PA boost, and I'll happilly tekk myself silly while waiting the extra month for Dengeki Carnival, and our lovely Master Classes.

Kinda like if someone put the wrong color frosting on a cake for me. I'm a little mad because i had planned on it being one way... and though im slightly displeased that the color isnt exactly what I wanted, I cannot deny that the cake is delicious.

As soon as I play MAG, i'll be happy lol. I just hope the PA rebalance comes soon.

[Pandaling]

It's fail to delay MAG... as most mods/GMs would say... they have to follow a schedule. Would you want later events delayed/shortened just so you can lvl PAs faster? so you got lvl 40 PAs... but you'd get a shorter time to hunt rares. Think about that.

[JC10001]

I can't believe Sega had the nerve to half-ass the PA update. Actually, wait a minute, this is Sega. Nevermind, I believe it.

Oh, and I'm not surprised at all that they are taking away AFK leveling as soon as they are. Whenever there is a patch that negatively affects players it gets released almost immediately after Japan gets it (synth canceling to reuse a board after a weapon fails would be another example).

And since Sega can never leave well enough alone, they not only take away AFK leveling they also fail to increase the experience that PAs gain. Great.



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[GuardianElite]

On 2008-04-22 16:09, AmyPsycho wrote:
hm.. I'm definitely disappointed theres no PA xp boost yet, but that will definitely not ruin my excitement of MAG. At least I'll be inspired to use my techs enough to level them in MAG... afterwards will probably be the PA boost, and I'll happilly tekk myself silly while waiting the extra month for Dengeki Carnival, and our lovely Master Classes.

Kinda like if someone put the wrong color frosting on a cake for me. I'm a little mad because i had planned on it being one way... and though im slightly displeased that the color isnt exactly what I wanted, I cannot deny that the cake is delicious.

As soon as I play MAG, i'll be happy lol. I just hope the PA rebalance comes soon.


Yeah and watch them delay the Master classes http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[lvyhd]

chikki will still be effective jsut not as strong. As for the new items i can't wait to see what they are and have fun farmin them during mag. I think this is goin to be a nice and well deserved update.

[nooblet]

i was more interested in the pa lvl boost than anything else. what im pissed about is the fact that it will take a few weeks to implement after mag. people are very upset and sega should get this up asap not wait a month or two. hell i would be happy if they do implemented next week.

[Bliven]

I don't see how making chikki weaker affects C spam lol.

[SonicTMP]

On 2008-04-22 15:17, Aries2384 wrote:
All this fucking whining. We are getting something to DO. We have MAG and type lvl to 20. Wah wah wah I can't decimate all with Chikki/Ican'tafkLvlmybullets/MyartsdontlvlfastersoIcantellpeopleImGodly Waaaaaah!
Sheesh guys! We're getting MAG hello! We havent had a single decenet event on this game for months. I say its high time for it. I can wait longer for the rebalance. Hell we're getting half of it! Chillax!



And then you realize mag isn't anything speicial. Seriously it's an exp event with some new items. If we got the PA rebalance and a delay on MAG everyone would be just as pissed.

[Zato-2TWO]

Chikki nerf = Protransers playable again? =D

[Neith]

On 2008-04-22 17:47, Zato-2TWO wrote:
Chikki nerf = Protransers playable again? =D



Playable again?

To everyone whining about Chikki- it's still going to have 180%+ ATP mod after the nerf. It'll cost less PP. Instead of killing everything in one combo, it'll be two. It might (gasp) not be totally broken now, though I'll reserve judgment on that until I try it after the nerf.

Also, regarding the HUnewearl set, the official update page lists all 12 PSO costume types, so maybe we do get them all.

Much lulz @ FOmarl set being called Formal Set though.

HUney costume now- I've been waiting too long to use it D: I don't even have my Newman to use it anymore, but I can improvise :<

[Zato-2TWO]

Har har, I'm just kidding =P I still hear people trashing on PTs, but I love my transer =P I bet half the Jabroga-tards out there wouldn't be able to land a single one of those on a pack of rampant Ollakas if it weren't for a well-placed stun bomb =P.

I'll just take my PSO costumes and love them =P

[Complex_Jao]

Oh NO...OH NO...MY XBOX HAS THE RED RINGS!!!NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Celi-Ka]

I'm not too concerned with the PA EXP update being delayed, considering what we ARE getting this week. Here's to enjoying the upcoming event!

[mvffin]

Give it a week. Mag will be boring and everyone will be tired of running with level 10 bullets.

[McLaughlin]

I'm a Fighgunner and I have most of my bullets over 20. Why would anyone who specializes in guns have a bunch of level 10 bullets, and why would anyone who doesn't specialize in guns care about their bullet levels?

[MrNomad]

Honestly, people, stfu about no PA update. It brings nothing new to the game other than pushing the "EASY" button.

"BUT NOMAD, MAG IS JUST ANOTHER EXP EVENT BLAH BLAH POINTLESS ARGUMENT WITH NO REAL IMPORTANCE"

As you can see, with MAG we get lvl 20 job classes, more weapons and "gasp" PSO clothing, casino items etc etc. It may not seem like "much" to the whiney PA update enthusiast, but in all contrary, it's 101% more than a lame PA update. Some of you out there dont understand, most of us have our PAs leveled up. Now we want something new to do, hence MAG.

[EtherForce]

Woohoo now mission points are worth something again!

[Emblem00]

On 2008-04-22 21:43, MrNomad wrote:
Honestly, people, stfu about no PA update. It brings nothing new to the game other than pushing the "EASY" button.

"BUT NOMAD, MAG IS JUST ANOTHER EXP EVENT BLAH BLAH POINTLESS ARGUMENT WITH NO REAL IMPORTANCE"

As you can see, with MAG we get lvl 20 job classes, more weapons and "gasp" PSO clothing, casino items etc etc. It may not seem like "much" to the whiney PA update enthusiast, but in all contrary, it's 101% more than a lame PA update. Some of you out there dont understand, most of us have our PAs leveled up. Now we want something new to do, hence MAG.

Yes

[jobber]

woohooo

Rifle knockdown

Can't wait

My dark and killer shot bullet levels are both over 35 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
Lighting and Ice are still in the 20s

I'm hitting for 700-1100 with my dark bullets on a 6/10 rattlesnake w/o shifta. If the bullets get a nice boost, I could wipe away any light monster in 5 hits. On White Beast S, it usually takes 10 shots to wipe a small enemy away. If I infect a non-light enemy, it eats up 850 every 5 seconds.

So I'm guessing we have to wait for Master classes to get bullets over 40.


wtf we don't get knockdown with shotgun bullets?!

boo-urns.


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[Indica]

wow, I guess ST actually put in some Overtime hours to make sure we get this update.

[Limonade]

On 2008-04-22 18:06, UrikoBB3 wrote:

On 2008-04-22 17:47, Zato-2TWO wrote:
Chikki nerf = Protransers playable again? =D



Playable again?

To everyone whining about Chikki- it's still going to have 180%+ ATP mod after the nerf. It'll cost less PP. Instead of killing everything in one combo, it'll be two. It might (gasp) not be totally broken now, though I'll reserve judgment on that until I try it after the nerf.


yeah it doesnt really sound like the taking chikki down that much. Basicly instead of one hit it will take 2 or 3 and really that dont seem to bad if you know how to work it. So really if you one who spams it its not the end of the world if your one that gloating about it i dont think you have much to gloat about. But im more a fan of the other slicer skill so meh

[BahnKnakyu]

So how should I jump into this thread.

1) Bitch about how Sega dropped the ball on the updates.

2) Bitch about the people bitching.

3) Bitch about the people who are bitching about the people who are bitching.

4) Lose my faith in Sega and just take this one in the nuts and move on since we're at least getting SOMETHING and since the game is fun regardless of how poorly managed it is.

5) Quit.

I'll take #4. Basically, I'll go back to what I'm doing, and just keep playing. At least we're getting something, not what was promised, but something. I like the game engine too much to stop playing, it's too damn unique and there are few if any online games that match this.

I just hope Sega of America learned their lessons from this debacle. Parity be damned, the "parity" is messing up both sides of the platform fence - I would understand having to keep the two platforms in sync IF THE SERVERS WERE DIRECTLY LINKED, but they're not. Whether one side gets an update and the other doesn't will not affect gameplay in any way.

I can (sort of) understand why Sega of America is siding with the XHueg, because that's where more of their money is coming from. That's the reason why PC/PS2 is getting more attention on the JP side of things, because that's where THEIR money is, but I can betcha they probably could've made even more money had they gave a damn about the PC/PS2 side here in the states, considering, you know, there's tons of Wintendos and PS2 owners out there, but I guess (for some reason) their marketing budget for PC/PS2 is smaller than that of the XHueg.

Ah well. *goes back to WB runs and random hunting*

[F-Gattaca]

On 2008-04-23 00:26, BahnKnakyu wrote:
So how should I jump into this thread.

I'll take #4. Basically, I'll go back to what I'm doing, and just keep playing. At least we're getting something, not what was promised, but something. I like the game engine too much to stop playing, it's too damn unique and there are few if any online games that match this.


That's sort of how I feel, except less with the dramatic "feeling kicked in the nuts" and the usual railing against the host company ("I've lost my faith!" "Sega has committed crimes against God and humanity!" "We should take Sega to court!" etc. etc.).


You know what my reaction was?


A nonchalant shrug.


(My reaction to certain obnoxious people here on PSOW has been considerably more livid.)

Seriously, if (and when I say "you" or "you've" here I'm speaking to PSOW as a whole) you've played a lot of MMOs and you've paid attention, you'll find that slip-ups like these are all too common an occurrence. I've come to expect update delays, server downtime, and other mishaps as a natural feature of the MMO genre. It's going to happen, even to dominating companies like Blizzard.

So ya'll either accept that MMOs are always going to be like this, understand that events like these are the small stuff and therefore nothing to sweat, or quit playing MMOs altogether. That simple.

Perhaps the only time I'll ever get as worked up as any of you have over this mess is if Sega does something like allow billing information to find their way into the hands of identity thieves. Something like that I would find worthy of what a number of you have been screaming over the past few days, considering identity theft is an extremely dangerous financial matter.

[gamewarp]

phantasystaruniverse.jp update: (http://xbox360.phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=165)
we get also:
* Fighgunners restrictions on machineguns, handguns and twin handguns will be upgraded to S.
* Fortetechers receive an increase in HP.
* Killershoot lv31+ will receive a PP cost reduction.
* Guntecher can use S wands, increase in TP



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[Chibi_psu]

On 2008-04-23 02:10, gamewarp wrote:
phantasystaruniverse.jp update: (http://xbox360.phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=165)
we get also:
* Fighgunners restrictions on machineguns, handguns and twin handguns will be upgraded to S.
* Fortetechers receive an increase in HP.
* Killershoot lv31+ will receive a PP cost reduction.
* Guntecher can use S wands


WHAT??????????????????????????????????????? ESPIO PLEASE TRANSLATE D:



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[DPShiro]

New items
* Numerous new weapons and line shields will be added to the game

Anyone have a clue what weps and shields we get?

[DavidNel]

As long as there is something to kill, I'm satisfied...

[RedMussel]

On 2008-04-23 02:58, -SHIRO- wrote:

New items
* Numerous new weapons and line shields will be added to the game

Anyone have a clue what weps and shields we get?


Look at PSUPedia and MAG missions and Trade Thing...

[EspioKaos]

On 2008-04-23 02:24, chibichibi wrote:

On 2008-04-23 02:10, gamewarp wrote:
phantasystaruniverse.jp update: (http://xbox360.phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=165)
we get also:
* Fighgunners restrictions on machineguns, handguns and twin handguns will be upgraded to S.
* Fortetechers receive an increase in HP.
* Killershoot lv31+ will receive a PP cost reduction.
* Guntecher can use S wands


WHAT??????????????????????????????????????? ESPIO PLEASE TRANSLATE D:

Ah, it's true. They added those things to the update post late last night, it seems. I'll update my initial post with this info. Thanks for the tip, gamewarp!

[EMPYREAN]

as long as chikki gets nerfed and guns gets some love im gonna be very happy.

[Neith]

As much as I don't agree with Fighgunners getting more S-Rank, it happens that:
- My main is currently leveling Fighgunner
- I have a Muzzlefever, Vipric and Hyper Viper I wasn't using http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Yay for fT HP boost too. It just annoys me that months ago I deleted my Newman fT because of that sole reason http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Apone]

So we're getting EVVEN MORE stuff?? the S rank guns for fiighgunner and the fortetecher HP? thats pretty cool.

[Hrith]

On top of things again, Espio http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[CellarDoor]

Haha, of course I waited until two days ago to finally give in and buy a controller and download Joytokey. Oh well, must be a sign http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Cracka_J]

On 2008-04-23 00:26, BahnKnakyu wrote:
4) Lose my faith in Sega and just take this one in the nuts and move on since we're at least getting SOMETHING and since the game is fun regardless of how poorly managed it is.

I'll take #4.

Same, #4 as well, for pretty much the same reasons you gave. Weighed my options, and I really just enjoy the game too much to leave over this. It sucks, but all we can really do is just move on and enjoy what we're getting.



On 2008-04-23 00:26, BahnKnakyu wrote:
I just hope Sega of America learned their lessons from this debacle.

It's happened before, it'll happen again. ST and the GM/admins on the official psu site have an awesome habit of telling people things with no intention of following through on them. If you continue to play psu, you can only expect more of this. Just like you said, this incident combined with others in the recent past has opened my eyes. Faith in ST is lost, and those admins are nothing more then rumor mills imo. That doesn't mean I still don't love psu http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif


On 2008-04-23 00:26, BahnKnakyu wrote:Parity be damned, the "parity" is messing up both sides of the platform fence - I would understand having to keep the two platforms in sync IF THE SERVERS WERE DIRECTLY LINKED, but they're not. Whether one side gets an update and the other doesn't will not affect gameplay in any way.


See, this is what I'm not getting as well. PC/PS2 and 360 servers are not linked, yet we are getting a leaderboard that spreads across both servers. I really think there's more to this then people are noticing...perhaps part of the patch ST has to submit to XBL (the pa exp part), did not pass some sort of certification, and due to this, had to be left out on both servers to make them "equal" for the leaderboards to be effective. A PC/PS2 server with pa exp up and a 360 server without said patch DURING a major event WITH shared leaderboards would be even more devastating than what's currently happening.

So ya, if that was the case, I'm glad it was left out. Fire and brimstone would be raining down on the 360 servers come friday...

[Anduril]

This isn't bad. I have no problem with not getting the PA adjustment yet; it'll come when it comes, it's not like we won't ever get it. And yay to fT HP boost! Now I won't die nearly as often.



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[McLaughlin]

Woot! I'll be usin' all my S Rank guns sooner than I expected.

[darkante]

On 2008-04-23 06:01, CellarDoor wrote:
Haha, of course I waited until two days ago to finally give in and buy a controller and download Joytokey. Oh well, must be a sign http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif


Hah good call. I don´t even wanna play the ranger class without the JoytoKey program. It´s mostly button mashing in any case so you save yourself the pain. (>.>)

[stukasa]

On 2008-04-23 02:10, gamewarp wrote:
* Fortetechers receive an increase in HP.
Perfect timing. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[str898mustang]

yeah, JoyToKey is a lifesaver when it comes to a range class. Only problem is when I have it on, it scrolls through everything I have typed cuz of the way I have set the buttons.

[Mikura]

On 2008-04-22 13:51, Charger89 wrote:
Since i want to lvl my alts n get some nice stuff... Team MAG

I should do a poll bought this.
(idea came from Mikura)



If you really want to do a poll about the different "teams," you're welcome to. But I'm not going to do it myself and I suggest no one else does either. We have enough arguments in this thread as it is. Creating a poll asking people which camp they're in would just be adding fuel to the fire.

On topic: I'm a bit more pleased about the update now and I think I'll be able to enjoy MAG a lot. Once again, my main complaint was the false hopes and dates of when we'd get the PA boost rather than the delay itself.

From now on, I demand we don't receive any news or date on a specific update until it is guaranteed. Unless it can be proven without a doubt (or least anywhere from 80% to 95% confident), don't bother to give us any date. Period.

Edit: Struck out my first remark since I didn't know Charger already made the poll. So that's now null and void. xD





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[Sasamichan]

On 2008-04-23 02:10, gamewarp wrote:
phantasystaruniverse.jp update: (http://xbox360.phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=165)
we get also:
* Fighgunners restrictions on machineguns, handguns and twin handguns will be upgraded to S.
* Fortetechers receive an increase in HP.
* Killershoot lv31+ will receive a PP cost reduction.
* Guntecher can use S wands, increase in TP



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We will see when its added on the main site.

[Sekani]

On 2008-04-23 04:33, EspioKaos wrote:

On 2008-04-23 02:24, chibichibi wrote:

On 2008-04-23 02:10, gamewarp wrote:
phantasystaruniverse.jp update: (http://xbox360.phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=165)
we get also:
* Fighgunners restrictions on machineguns, handguns and twin handguns will be upgraded to S.
* Fortetechers receive an increase in HP.
* Killershoot lv31+ will receive a PP cost reduction.
* Guntecher can use S wands


WHAT??????????????????????????????????????? ESPIO PLEASE TRANSLATE D:

Ah, it's true. They added those things to the update post late last night, it seems. I'll update my initial post with this info. Thanks for the tip, gamewarp!


The hell is this?! Are they for real?

[Mikura]

On 2008-04-23 09:07, Sekani wrote:

On 2008-04-23 04:33, EspioKaos wrote:

On 2008-04-23 02:24, chibichibi wrote:

On 2008-04-23 02:10, gamewarp wrote:
phantasystaruniverse.jp update: (http://xbox360.phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=165)
we get also:
* Fighgunners restrictions on machineguns, handguns and twin handguns will be upgraded to S.
* Fortetechers receive an increase in HP.
* Killershoot lv31+ will receive a PP cost reduction.
* Guntecher can use S wands


WHAT??????????????????????????????????????? ESPIO PLEASE TRANSLATE D:

Ah, it's true. They added those things to the update post late last night, it seems. I'll update my initial post with this info. Thanks for the tip, gamewarp!


The hell is this?! Are they for real?



Seems like this update has gotten pretty huge in the past couple of days, hasn't it? Frankly, I'll reserve my enthusiasm until after it's been implemented on Friday.

[-Tidus_415-]

Fighgunner update omggggggg YES!

[chalka]

huzzah! if this is true, i will be one happy camper.

[LeMan_Bayon]

Interesting on the guntecher part, s rank wands but no lvl 30 attack techs. I guess they are waiting till the release of master classes so all techer classes get a boost? (guntecher to 30 attack, wartecher to 30 support, fortetecher to 40 support and acrotecher to 50 support)

[Yusaku_Kudou]

Who cares about the PA EXP boost when we have level 20 job update. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[darkante]

On 2008-04-23 12:29, Yusaku_Kudou wrote:
Who cares about the PA EXP boost when we have level 20 job update. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


My rifle needs some more love now that i finally got a Rattlesnake. :S

[Anduril]

Do you guys think that it would be a crazy idea to delete my lv 62 CAST Fortegunner, just to recreate her and level her up from scratch during the event? She has my Armor PM so I don't have to worry about getting that back up, especially if we hit the Clothes Discount.

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[fighgunners]

so this means fighgunners can use s guns now?FRIGGING SWEET!......hehehehehehehe....

[Powder Keg]

On 2008-04-23 12:33, Anduril wrote:
Do you guys think that it would be a crazy idea to delete my lv 62 CAST Fortegunner, just to recreate her and level her up from scratch during the event? She has my Armor PM so I don't have to worry about getting that back up, especially if we hit the Clothes Discount.

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What reason would you have to do that? Unless you really want to change your name and/or proportion, I wouldn't do it. But if you think you want to for those reasons, now would be best.

[Nirvash7]

On 2008-04-23 12:29, Yusaku_Kudou wrote:
Who cares about the PA EXP boost when we have level 20 job update. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



If you and me were sitting on a bridge thinking about what would be good for dinner, I'd push you off.

[Anduril]

On 2008-04-23 16:54, Artea wrote:

On 2008-04-23 12:33, Anduril wrote:
Do you guys think that it would be a crazy idea to delete my lv 62 CAST Fortegunner, just to recreate her and level her up from scratch during the event? She has my Armor PM so I don't have to worry about getting that back up, especially if we hit the Clothes Discount.

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What reason would you have to do that? Unless you really want to change your name and/or proportion, I wouldn't do it. But if you think you want to for those reasons, now would be best.

Already did it. Made her shorter, luckily I didn't forget to transfer all the PAs back into discs. Took me 10 minutes just to give her all her parts back....

[Mikura]

On 2008-04-23 18:17, Anduril wrote:

On 2008-04-23 16:54, Artea wrote:

On 2008-04-23 12:33, Anduril wrote:
Do you guys think that it would be a crazy idea to delete my lv 62 CAST Fortegunner, just to recreate her and level her up from scratch during the event? She has my Armor PM so I don't have to worry about getting that back up, especially if we hit the Clothes Discount.

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What reason would you have to do that? Unless you really want to change your name and/or proportion, I wouldn't do it. But if you think you want to for those reasons, now would be best.

Already did it. Made her shorter, luckily I didn't forget to transfer all the PAs back into discs. Took me 10 minutes just to give her all her parts back....



Wish I could do that but even with MAG, trying to reach 130 again would be a pain -_- (I'd do it for the same reason as you btw. I never have been 100% satisfied with my fem beast's proportions).

[Genoa]

Oh man, I don't know who I want to play as during max attack...
I wanna play my Force because he'll be a FOmar =D
I wanna play my beast PT because I want those seksi lvl.20 PT stats...
I wanna play my cast Gunner because of that MASSIVE rifle update....
D: I dunno what to do first <____>

[Xiber]

On 2008-04-22 05:15, chibichibi wrote:
wtf no guntecher changes? :S

And about that mission update whats the point of no more afk bullet training fix if we dont have yet the pa patch?

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The list of updates says that guntechers get S rank wands and more TP. Lucky you. The update for fighgunners dont quite interest me because my 9* handguns (both single and twin) are grinded to at least +9, putting them well above the 10 and 11 star handguns stats.

Im glad to see the job level increase. I will have fun getting fighgunner, fortegunner, and acrofighter to 20.

[Sasamichan]

Looks like Ruby confirmed about the extra update from the post on the main boards.

[CelestialBlade]

Huzzah for the GT boost :D

But seriously, why are Fortetechers getting an HP boost? Isn't that supposed to be a limiting factor for them? Or is nobody allowed to have a weakness anymore?

[Astarin]

Hey, FT HP will still be low. Just a little less... don't-blink-or-something-will-kill-you. They'll still have the lowest HP of all classes, unless I'm mistaken.

[CelestialBlade]

I guess it's to separate them from the upcoming Masterforce. At level 20, MF has an HP mod of 85% while the current fT at level 20 has 90%. I'm guessing fT will probably get boosted to around 100% because it wouldn't make sense to put them too close to GT at 118%. Just enough to separate them from MF, but not enough to be effective in real combat. That's my theory, anyway.

[LeMan_Bayon]

I believe fT 20 is 112% after the boost.

Edit yea GT and fT are close now. Female newman 130/20 GT= 2421 and fT= 2310.



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[stukasa]

On 2008-04-24 16:23, LeMan_Bayon wrote:
Edit yea GT and fT are close now. Female newman 130/20 GT= 2421 and fT= 2310.
2310?! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif I would have settled for 2000. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[pikachief]

ok i am going online on tuesday and still wanna be part of the top 100 players. lets see if i can accomplish that missing almost a whole week still http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

cya guys tuesday http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[MSAksion]

Regarding the ForteTecher HP BOOST

Without the PA Boost at least i get the HP boost for my Fortetecher. I've been training Melee as a Wartecher with 2775 hP. I found and synthed my Kazarod and went back to FT and found my HP drop to 1662 Total T_T.

Everyone else is already pushing past 2000 and some near 3000 HP and i'm stuck with HP i had back months ago. I cannot wait for this 'SMALL' Gesture to us Glass-Cannons.

Regarding Figunners getting S rank GUNTECHER guns

I am also liking this too. Enemies are getting even stronger now and figunner guns need to keep up with S2 and S3 and S4 monsters. If were fighting S-THREE rank monsters with 9* guns that is not productive.

To keep up with damage to stronger monsters the best choice is to take those GUNTECHER S-rank guns and give them to the 'OTHER" small arms masters - the figunners. I cannot wait for this gift to us Dancing Doublesaber users.

[CelestialBlade]

On 2008-04-24 16:23, LeMan_Bayon wrote:
I believe fT 20 is 112% after the boost.

Edit yea GT and fT are close now. Female newman 130/20 GT= 2421 and fT= 2310.



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Uh, wow, that's retarded. Let's just give them 999 DFP while we're at it.

[Zorafim]

May as well. 999 DFP blocks about 200 points of damage.