Acrofighters Q: Are they considered Rangers?

[Clunker]

For purposes of Ranger-only gear (Storm Line), are Acrofighters considered to be Rangers, since they have a Ranger requirement?

[DEM_CIG]

No I dont think they are considered rangers and I dont think they can equip stormline

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-22 11:24, DEM_CIG wrote:
No I dont think they are considered rangers and I dont think they can equip stormline




no they arent but yes that can wear them.

they can use storm lines cuz u had to lvl up ranger to be them http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[desturel]

You can wear stormline and castest line as an Acrotecher and Acrofighter.

Acrotechers can also wear force only armors except for Hiragi-senba.

Acrofighters can also wear hunter only armor.

[pikachief]

AT cannot use baji-senba

[desturel]

On 2008-04-22 11:31, pikachief wrote:
AT cannot use baji-senba


Hmm, I've equiped Baji-senba with my acrotecher before. Although I guess I could have been a fortetecher at the time. I can check when I get home from work though.

*edit*
PSUPedia (http://psupedia.info/Baji-senba) also seems to think that acrotecher can wear baji-senba. It would be strange to restrict an AT from a set with an S rank wand.

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[Alizarin]

On 2008-04-22 11:31, pikachief wrote:
AT cannot use baji-senba



But they can. My AT at least seems to be able to.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Acrofighter can use S rank handguns... of course they can wear Stormline

THE JACKEL

[desturel]

On 2008-04-22 11:51, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
Acrofighter can use S rank handguns... of course they can wear Stormline


Protranser can use S rank handguns... of course the can wear... oh wait a second.

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2008-04-22 11:57, desturel wrote:

On 2008-04-22 11:51, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
Acrofighter can use S rank handguns... of course they can wear Stormline


Protranser can use S rank handguns... of course the can wear... oh wait a second.



Protranser shouldn't even have handguns, I have no idea why they do. They shouldn't have single sabers either.

THE JACKEL

[landman]

Protranser is not a ranger class because they are experimental, every other class that needs force/hunter/ranger lvls can equip force/hunter/hanger specific items

[desturel]

On 2008-04-22 12:02, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
Protranser shouldn't even have handguns, I have no idea why they do. They shouldn't have single sabers either.


I like handgun on protranser. Protranser, Fortetecher, and Fortefighter are the only classes I use handguns on anyway. Well, I do on acrotecher sometimes as well.

[ACEAILANT]

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[TresIngram]

Really that's interesting.

[amtalx]

Meh. Every class can use a handgun and saber...until the Master Classes come along.

[gryphonvii]

handguns are so that for missions where you need to shoot a button or a sample you can get it. I rally wish some ff's out there would have a handgun, I've been in too many party's where I am the only way to do damage to de rol le b/c no one had any gun.

[pikachief]

On 2008-04-22 11:42, Alizarin wrote:

On 2008-04-22 11:31, pikachief wrote:
AT cannot use baji-senba



But they can. My AT at least seems to be able to.



then sega jsut doesnt want my techer to use my 3 boards, cuz it says that i cant equip it :/

is the armor newman only? is there another armor besides haragi-senba that AT's cant equip?

[DraginHikari]

Considering the Class requires 5 Ranger Levels I would hope it would >>

[_K1_]

On 2008-04-22 12:02, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
Protranser shouldn't even have handguns, I have no idea why they do. They shouldn't have single sabers either.

THE JACKEL


Protranser has saber and handgun for the same reason Fortetecher does: because they are a base weapon set any class can use. I agree they don't make any sense for PT, and are useless to FT.

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[desturel]

On 2008-04-22 18:40, _K1_ wrote:
Protranser has saber and handgun for the same reason Fortetecher does: because they are a base weapon set any class can use. I agree they don't make any sense for PT, and are useless to FT.


Since when was mobile level 3 status effect useless? It's a one bullet crossbow. Of course for people who never solo, DPS is the only thing you can think about.

As a fortetecher cards only have level 2 status effect. Bows have level 4, but are not mobile. There are no mobile techs. So for times when you need to hit a status on the run, handgun is your only option. I use it on Vanda Orga, Go Vahra (on runs without safe spots), Orcadillian, Gol Dova and other creatures that don't exactly stand around and wait for you to cast Noszonde to knock them over or come charging through the dam spells. Regrant is a good alternative some of the time, but becomes dangerous the more enemies that are in the room.

Heck rising hit is very good for Mother brain runs when you aren't exactly immune to megid. But again, for people who run in groups of six with Chikki a flyin' there's no need to be mobile since you mow down enemies quicker than you can blink.

As a protranser, again you have no other choice for mobile weapons. Techers can at least fall back on a card. You don't have that choice as a protranser. EX traps have helped that matter greatly since you can stun/burn or virus G/Freeze damn near everything to death, but the handgun is a low cost option to get out of a situation without resorting to traps. That and putting a hangun with a saber with rising strike keeps the "right in your face" enemies back.

Normally I'll do a rising strike on a carriguine when it keeps charging past my grenades as it's a bit quicker on the startup than Dugrega or Bogga Zubba. fighting the four Carriguine at the end of Dark Satellite takes a bit more strategy than "lol Jabroga" when you are solo. Ikk Hikk? Gravity Break? Dus Majarra? All nice ways of having the second Carriguine pop you in the back with megid.

Of course I'm probably one of maybe two people in the game that solo Dark Satellite and Seed Awakening as a Fortetecher. So I can see why you would think handguns are useless.

[_K1_]

On 2008-04-22 22:06, desturel wrote:
Since when was mobile level 3 status effect useless? For a long time, even before AotI. This just isn't classic PSU where an FT or FG could solo and rely on SEs as a primary form of damage.



As a fortetecher cards only have level 2 status effect. Bows have level 4, but are not mobile. There are no mobile techs.Guns would, I suppose, be useful to silence or stun enemies, but other than that, you're doing worse in the long run by trying to land an SE rather than do pure damage.

Also, I solo almost exclusively, and have since launch. Thanks for the advice, though.

As for Electronic Brain, you'll have better luck playing a different clas. FT is simply not a good choice for fast moving enemies, and hitting them with a Rising Strike level 10 is overall not your best choice. I play a female newman meleeer as my main and have soloed these missions many times (never getting my blackheart ;_;)


As a protranser, again you have no other choice for mobile weapons.When I said, they don't make sense, I meant that as PT is a heavy wepaons specialist. PT is one of my favorite classes, period, and I appreciate having sabers on that class, but it still just doesn't fit with the other weapons. As for SEs, you have traps. Those are your specialties. Also, lasers, shotties, and to a lesser extent, gernades.


Of course I'm probably one of maybe two people in the game that solo Dark Satellite and Seed Awakening as a Fortetecher. So I can see why you would think handguns are useless. No, SEs have lost much of their use, period. I don't solo those as an FT because my newearl main has better classes for them. If you like FT the most, by all means go for it, but if you're relying on SE damage from a handgun, it's simply not the best class or playstyle to solo most missions anymore.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Uhm, are we forgetting that techs apply SE, often of the same or higher level than the handgun bullets. Fortetecher does not need handgun to apply SE. Use a tech. If you need a gun to do damage, a card is a much better choice.

And yeah, protranser is a heavy weapons specialist and has their traps. They do not need them either.

THE JACKEL

[EphekZ]

On 2008-04-24 18:20, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
Uhm, are we forgetting that techs apply SE, often of the same or higher level than the handgun bullets. Fortetecher does not need handgun to apply SE. Use a tech. If you need a gun to do damage, a card is a much better choice.

And yeah, protranser is a heavy weapons specialist and has their traps. They do not need them either.

THE JACKEL



bows suck :/

[Weeaboolits]

Every class (aside from masters) can use saber and handgun, PT just got S-rank everything, so it gets them s-rank, makes sense to me.

[Zorafim]

I never quite understood why handguns were the junky weapon of the ranged weapons, while sabers are actually kind of good.