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beatrixkiddo
May 5, 2008, 11:06 PM
Yes.

Shinko
May 5, 2008, 11:06 PM
I have a question. can beast do good as a gunner type. i mean i know there ata is low but shouldn't they be ok at higher lvls with guns?

Zarode
May 5, 2008, 11:08 PM
ANY RACE CAN DO ANY CLASS SUCCESSFULLY. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

Kerry157
May 5, 2008, 11:14 PM
On 2008-05-05 21:06, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Yes.

pikachief
May 5, 2008, 11:16 PM
On 2008-05-05 21:14, Kerry157 wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:06, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Yes.

Starrz
May 5, 2008, 11:24 PM
On 2008-05-05 21:16, pikachief wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:14, Kerry157 wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:06, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Yes.

Tink
May 5, 2008, 11:25 PM
On 2008-05-05 21:24, Starrz wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:16, pikachief wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:14, Kerry157 wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:06, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Yes.

Xefi
May 5, 2008, 11:39 PM
If a Cast can do "ok" as a fortetecher, then a beast gunner couldn't be much worst.

Ata is overrated; you'll still be able to hit things fine even with a solid/power s on.

And also, quote chaining can get you into trouble, so i will combo-break it. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

jayster
May 5, 2008, 11:42 PM
it can hit the largest numbers but has the highest chance of missing.

my beast used to be a forteGunner but I switched it to a Cast because I like it better. And Casts get a bonus as a forteGunner.

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steely
May 5, 2008, 11:44 PM
On 2008-05-05 21:25, Tink wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:24, Starrz wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:16, pikachief wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:14, Kerry157 wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:06, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Yes.

pikachief
May 5, 2008, 11:55 PM
On 2008-05-05 21:44, steely wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:25, Tink wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:24, Starrz wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:16, pikachief wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:14, Kerry157 wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:06, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Yes.

Chuck_Norris
May 6, 2008, 12:02 AM
Once you get into higher level, a Beast can technicly be the best gunner. Especially if you equip an ATA unit.

beatrixkiddo
May 6, 2008, 12:03 AM
ATA never matters (after like level 50 or so)

Chuck_Norris
May 6, 2008, 12:10 AM
On 2008-05-05 22:03, beatrixkiddo wrote:
ATA never matters (after like level 50 or so)



Extra insurance >->

DoubleJG
May 6, 2008, 12:25 AM
One of my secondary characters is a Beast fG and it works just fine. Sure, he gets a 0 here and there, but the attacks that DO hit make up for those rare 0s.

pikachief
May 6, 2008, 12:30 AM
On 2008-05-05 22:25, DoubleJG3288 wrote:
One of my secondary characters is a Beast fG and it works just fine. Sure, he gets a 0 here and there, but the attacks that DO hit make up for those rare 0s.



pfft even my cast FG hits 0's here and there!

guns and FG have so much ATA it doesnt matter at a high level what class u are! beast FG's are possibly the best FG's and cast FF's are the best FF's in my opinion lol

Chaobo99
May 6, 2008, 12:36 AM
ATA IS overrated..freakin lv.45 beast w/ solid power S..I have about 4 ATA if I remember correctly and Im still doing 1500+ dmg..and im a fighter..you'll do fine as a gunner

Battlestar
May 6, 2008, 01:13 AM
On 2008-05-05 22:25, DoubleJG3288 wrote:
One of my secondary characters is a Beast fG and it works just fine. Sure, he gets a 0 here and there, but the attacks that DO hit make up for those rare 0s.



not really.

Ashkahn
May 6, 2008, 01:15 AM
Beast Fortegunners are very good. ATA is oversaturated thanks to the class stats, and the extra power is nice.

...So says the Beast Fortegunner.

Genoa
May 6, 2008, 07:12 AM
(Female stats ;o )
F-beast lvl.130 Fortegunner 20:
HP:3115 ATP:1474 ATA:832 TP:699 DFP:260 EVP:579 MST:159

F-Cast lvl.130 Fortegunner 20:
HP:3012 ATP:1389 ATA:1165 TP:631 DFP:286 EVP:493 MST:143

I'm not sure if PSU rounds up, if so some are a point higher, but I did this with a calculator. You have to add in a +3% Bonus for the Cast.

I very much enjoy having a Beast Fortegunner. However, that racial bonus upsets me just a tad that the Cast is not falling that far behind in any of that stats that Beast is ahead in.
But the Gunmaster has NO racial bonus AND has a slightly higher ATA mod, therefore Gunmaster will most definitely be on my Beast... no doubt ;o

But a Beast Fortegunner is quite nice because you actually have a VERY powerful melee attack as a backup, where as the Cast is pretty much all gun, gun gun... What's the Beasts very powerful melee attack? Nanoblast http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif


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KaffeKane
May 10, 2008, 08:37 AM
On 2008-05-05 21:55, pikachief wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:44, steely wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:25, Tink wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:24, Starrz wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:16, pikachief wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:14, Kerry157 wrote:

On 2008-05-05 21:06, beatrixkiddo wrote:
Yes.

GreenArcher
May 10, 2008, 08:51 AM
On 2008-05-06 05:12, MegamanX wrote:
(Female stats ;o )
F-beast lvl.130 Fortegunner 20:
HP:3115 ATP:1474 ATA:832 TP:699 DFP:260 EVP:579 MST:159

F-Cast lvl.130 Fortegunner 20:
HP:3012 ATP:1389 ATA:1165 TP:631 DFP:286 EVP:493 MST:143

I'm not sure if PSU rounds up, if so some are a point higher, but I did this with a calculator. You have to add in a +3% Bonus for the Cast.

I very much enjoy having a Beast Fortegunner. However, that racial bonus upsets me just a tad that the Cast is not falling that far behind in any of that stats that Beast is ahead in.
But the Gunmaster has NO racial bonus AND has a slightly higher ATA mod, therefore Gunmaster will most definitely be on my Beast... no doubt ;o

But a Beast Fortegunner is quite nice because you actually have a VERY powerful melee attack as a backup, where as the Cast is pretty much all gun, gun gun... What's the Beasts very powerful melee attack? Nanoblast http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif


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Race bonuses are already calculated

Yusaku_Kudou
May 10, 2008, 08:59 AM
I'm going to have to agree that a CAST fortefighter with Cati / Power on versus a beast without one is just as good if not better. ATA does matter, though, but more for fortefighter where ATA is fairly low for the most part.

Randomness
May 10, 2008, 10:13 AM
But there you're giving a unit to the CAST and not the beast. Thats hardly a fair comparison.

Fortegunner's ATA mod is so high you'll never have trouble hitting stuff. I play beast fG all the time.

Caylinn
May 10, 2008, 10:50 AM
CAST has SUV. Thanks Paradi Cataract http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

unicorn
May 10, 2008, 11:12 AM
Beasts are good Fortegunners but IMO, CASTs just do it better. Theres only a 100-ish ATP difference, and a 300 ATA difference.

Yeah, ATA is kinda overrrated....buuut 300 ATA difference? I kinda thought accuracy was a ranger's best stat. >_>

They do it better than Humans and Newmans, sooo Beast FG = win.

Beast Gunmaster I'm not sure of, but I'm sure it'll be rocking.



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Gen2000
May 10, 2008, 04:54 PM
Do you want Adaka Val or Super SUV? That's all it comes down to really between the two, if you were to be nitpicky then yes Beast FGs hits the hardest but it's not so much better than Cast FGs. It'll take the same number of shots to down one enemy with one race or the other.

If you're missing alot it just means your PAs are poorly level.

ATA doesn't matter even on Fortefighters, a majority of lv.40 PAs have very high ATA mods (ignoring Jarborga which doesn't even miss), much better than what a lot of Bullet PA ata mods are.



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Syl
May 10, 2008, 04:57 PM
Low level bullets might miss a lot, especially if your fG class level is low. Once you get it to 20 those 0's are practically gone, but they do pop up a bit more often than cast.

Saraphina
May 11, 2008, 01:58 AM
My Beast gunner is like, lv 127 i think? befor i got 065'ed but i was 100+ befor MAG started.. anyway in all honesty A cast's ATP as gunner is kinda close to a beasts but i wouldn't change my class or the race for the world http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif shes a sexi beast with guns! what more can you ask for? I also miss every now and then of course but its not that bad with acc gear and lv'ed bullets + If you get your hands on a rapid fire controller you feel better bout the few misses when you follow up with a couple 800+ shots one after the other from a Riffle


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ljkkjlcm9
May 11, 2008, 02:08 AM
ATA is the most overrated stat in the game, enemies die in seconds anyways

Combined with the fact that most people complain enemies die too fast and they often can't even tag them... you'd think people would support other people missing to give them a few extra seconds to get a tag in.

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