F-Gattaca
Jun 5, 2008, 11:29 AM
This is a split off of Ronin Cooper's topic (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2038787#post2038787). The exchange between Sychosis and I was starting to dominate Ronin's thread, and Sychosis didn't want to derail the thread further.
Neither do I, really, but I still want to talk with him on this, so there you go.
Did I mention I like how this new VBulletin system automatically links to the exact post you're quoting when you use the quote button, even if it's in another topic? That's awesome.
By all means let SEGA make them "mean something." As long as they don't have a meaning that equates to "ROFLSLOOOOOWDOOOOOOWN! :D :D :D" I'm fine with them.
No actually it is not. These are what I'm referring to:
Okay, wow. That IS weird. I'm totally BSing here since I'm no programmer, but my guess is that it would have to do with the way animations are done in the game.
Though, I'm curious as to whether or not this is more of an illusion caused by the client and not a wholly limiting quirk. What I mean to ask is by that is, is it proven that actually shortens the distance at which you hit monsters and not just the physical distance seen on-screen? I couldn't quite tell by the video ... and the way PSU's client talk to the server, and its netcode in general, causes some pretty wonky quirks.
Those glitches turned the Carriguine Room in MAG into an example on how to make tossed salad ... to say nothing of their short despawn radius for (and the size of) that room making them far more dangerous than they normally are.
Don't get me wrong, which you seem to be doing a lot, but I would love to still be playing. Unfortunately our thresholds for acceptable blunders vary.
Of course. Watching the way the community reacted to things prior to and including the FUBAR last month demonstrated a lot about the various tolerances in people who play this particular game. And I mean that as in, you could literally see a gradient reaction, like watching a bag of popcorn pop.
Although a bag of popcorn smells and tastes better. Not that I've tried eating any printed-out rants or anything.
Oh boy, here we go. Even after saying I don't know if you are or not since I haven't followed your posting history, we'll just assume the worst. What can go wrong?
Well, snark and sarcasm can be pretty hard to separate from a sincere statement. Now, I know that quite well, but I felt it was important to address it and put it to bed anyway, so as to leave no doubt. Keep in mind where we're having this discussion, after all.
As for calling people suckers ...
And you've adequately adressed that. You've put my mind at ease there.
Lord help me. I didn't enter this topic in argument mode and never intended to get into an argument.
Believe it or not, I feel exactly the same way.
Watch me now, I'm actually about to make a statement you an infer something negative about you from: Are you paranoid?
"Paranoia is the wind beneath my wings, sir. (http://schlockmercenary.com/d/20080605.html)"
Kidding aside, I'm more obsessed with trying to be thorough than I am paranoid. My posts aren't quite known for their brevity, here or elsewhere.
Good for the type of game they're in maybe. But good on the whole? Or even good considering the strain they put on a PC/360? If you think so, fine by me, but do yourself a favor and look at something different before claiming so.
See that first sentence in that quote snippet? You pretty much got me right there.
I'm not the type to claim that PSU's graphics are better than, say, Crysis. I'm just saying they don't look like crap.
PSU's graphics don't rock Crysis' house, that's for sure, but I think they look good for the kind of game we're dealing with. That's how I feel about your linking me to Lost Odyssey videos; that's a turn-based RPG where they can get away with apocalyptic FMV cutscene-type spells. I'm willing to bet that allows them to pull a trick or two to squeeze out some more eye candy from what the 360 offers in prowess.
Just a note: My new system setup doesn't "rev up" even with PSU on its maximum settings. When I am playing Half-Life 2 or other Source Engine games on high-end settings, Supreme Commander, Universe At War: Earth Assault, Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, or Company of Heroes, the computer will invariably get hot in the process (and the fans turn into jet engines). It doesn't happen with PSU, though.
I'm not sure why you're getting all flustered. I don't know you outside of that "there's no such thing as easy mode" topic you made a while back.
Actually, to clarify what you're remembering: It wasn't so much "there's no such thing as easy mode" as it was "the game isn't a carebear easymode-only experience like everyone claims it is. There are challenges if you look fr them." It's not the same thing as saying there is no easy mode in the game.
As far as this exchange, you were more or less answering a question I had about something you mentioned in passing. If I seem irritated, it's for similar reasons I was irritated when I made that thread you spoke of. But if you can believe it, I'm trying NOT to sound pissy about this, because you've at least been more civil about it than other people I could name ...
Neither do I, really, but I still want to talk with him on this, so there you go.
Did I mention I like how this new VBulletin system automatically links to the exact post you're quoting when you use the quote button, even if it's in another topic? That's awesome.
By all means let SEGA make them "mean something." As long as they don't have a meaning that equates to "ROFLSLOOOOOWDOOOOOOWN! :D :D :D" I'm fine with them.
No actually it is not. These are what I'm referring to:
Okay, wow. That IS weird. I'm totally BSing here since I'm no programmer, but my guess is that it would have to do with the way animations are done in the game.
Though, I'm curious as to whether or not this is more of an illusion caused by the client and not a wholly limiting quirk. What I mean to ask is by that is, is it proven that actually shortens the distance at which you hit monsters and not just the physical distance seen on-screen? I couldn't quite tell by the video ... and the way PSU's client talk to the server, and its netcode in general, causes some pretty wonky quirks.
Those glitches turned the Carriguine Room in MAG into an example on how to make tossed salad ... to say nothing of their short despawn radius for (and the size of) that room making them far more dangerous than they normally are.
Don't get me wrong, which you seem to be doing a lot, but I would love to still be playing. Unfortunately our thresholds for acceptable blunders vary.
Of course. Watching the way the community reacted to things prior to and including the FUBAR last month demonstrated a lot about the various tolerances in people who play this particular game. And I mean that as in, you could literally see a gradient reaction, like watching a bag of popcorn pop.
Although a bag of popcorn smells and tastes better. Not that I've tried eating any printed-out rants or anything.
Oh boy, here we go. Even after saying I don't know if you are or not since I haven't followed your posting history, we'll just assume the worst. What can go wrong?
Well, snark and sarcasm can be pretty hard to separate from a sincere statement. Now, I know that quite well, but I felt it was important to address it and put it to bed anyway, so as to leave no doubt. Keep in mind where we're having this discussion, after all.
As for calling people suckers ...
And you've adequately adressed that. You've put my mind at ease there.
Lord help me. I didn't enter this topic in argument mode and never intended to get into an argument.
Believe it or not, I feel exactly the same way.
Watch me now, I'm actually about to make a statement you an infer something negative about you from: Are you paranoid?
"Paranoia is the wind beneath my wings, sir. (http://schlockmercenary.com/d/20080605.html)"
Kidding aside, I'm more obsessed with trying to be thorough than I am paranoid. My posts aren't quite known for their brevity, here or elsewhere.
Good for the type of game they're in maybe. But good on the whole? Or even good considering the strain they put on a PC/360? If you think so, fine by me, but do yourself a favor and look at something different before claiming so.
See that first sentence in that quote snippet? You pretty much got me right there.
I'm not the type to claim that PSU's graphics are better than, say, Crysis. I'm just saying they don't look like crap.
PSU's graphics don't rock Crysis' house, that's for sure, but I think they look good for the kind of game we're dealing with. That's how I feel about your linking me to Lost Odyssey videos; that's a turn-based RPG where they can get away with apocalyptic FMV cutscene-type spells. I'm willing to bet that allows them to pull a trick or two to squeeze out some more eye candy from what the 360 offers in prowess.
Just a note: My new system setup doesn't "rev up" even with PSU on its maximum settings. When I am playing Half-Life 2 or other Source Engine games on high-end settings, Supreme Commander, Universe At War: Earth Assault, Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, or Company of Heroes, the computer will invariably get hot in the process (and the fans turn into jet engines). It doesn't happen with PSU, though.
I'm not sure why you're getting all flustered. I don't know you outside of that "there's no such thing as easy mode" topic you made a while back.
Actually, to clarify what you're remembering: It wasn't so much "there's no such thing as easy mode" as it was "the game isn't a carebear easymode-only experience like everyone claims it is. There are challenges if you look fr them." It's not the same thing as saying there is no easy mode in the game.
As far as this exchange, you were more or less answering a question I had about something you mentioned in passing. If I seem irritated, it's for similar reasons I was irritated when I made that thread you spoke of. But if you can believe it, I'm trying NOT to sound pissy about this, because you've at least been more civil about it than other people I could name ...