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Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:16 PM
You can deny the existence of the game, but if you deny the existence, that means you know of the game, and the rules state that if you know of the game, you're playing, and you therefore lose.

Baha.

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:16 PM
damnit!

Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:17 PM
I already lost the game, so I can do this at the moment.

Randomness
Jun 12, 2008, 02:18 PM
So if someone knows of the concept of a god they believe in him?

Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:19 PM
Nope, that's not what I said. I said the rules of the game itself state that if you know of the game, you're playing it. Since you've stated NUMEROUS times that you deny it's existence, you know of the game. So, since you know OF the game, you're playing, and everytime you deny the existence of it, you lose. :)

Randomness
Jun 12, 2008, 02:31 PM
On the contrary, I deny the truth of the rules, which is different.

Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:32 PM
You still know of them, so you're still playing.

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:33 PM
leave it be nitro, he's losing but he doesn't know it

Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:34 PM
He knows it. :wacko:

Nai_Calus
Jun 12, 2008, 02:47 PM
Godfuckingdamn you all. My brain just exploded at all the circular fucking logic.

Actually I think we've gone beyond circles here.

Randomness
Jun 12, 2008, 02:47 PM
No, because the statements are false, I'm not playing. Unless you can prove that statement, you have no grounds to claim that.

The issue at hand is there is no evidence or reasoning to support the absurdity of the game. Further, claiming it works is an extremely nihilistic viewpoint.

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:49 PM
The game is a game

Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:52 PM
Of which you've already lost.

You already know of the game, that's as far as you need to go.

Tessu
Jun 12, 2008, 02:53 PM
This is the most ridiculous thing to argue about. D;

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:55 PM
indeed, but that is precisely why we have to argue about it

Randomness
Jun 12, 2008, 02:56 PM
Its FKL, after all. And it gives me something to do while Dennou Coil loads.

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:56 PM
plus its just fun to argue sometimes

Tessu
Jun 12, 2008, 02:56 PM
Yeah, I was thinking that. Still. :disapprove:
Why don't we all be productive...and clean our rooms simultaneously!?

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 02:59 PM
eww cleaning

Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 03:00 PM
eww cleaning

This.

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 03:13 PM
wait aren't you the janitor?

Randomness
Jun 12, 2008, 03:18 PM
His definition of cleaning... well... see "super disinfectant".

ShinMaruku
Jun 12, 2008, 03:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUS6nKpddec

Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 03:28 PM
wait aren't you the janitor?

Yeah, so?

I don't have to like cleaning, you know.

astuarlen
Jun 12, 2008, 03:31 PM
Godfuckingdamn you all. My brain just exploded at all the circular fucking logic.

Actually I think we've gone beyond circles here.

I think it's some sort of mating ritual.

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 03:36 PM
no its more like spiral logic... a destructive spiral :wacko: *lights a fuse*

Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 03:41 PM
*throws in C-4*

You got fiive secooonnds *is running like hell*

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 03:43 PM
*running*
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http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r168/talonshadowfox/explosion-in-space-wallpaper.jpg
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Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 03:44 PM
I have that pic set as my background for my phone. :)

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 03:47 PM
i collect pictures of awesome yet highly unrealistic explosions

Sgt_Shligger
Jun 12, 2008, 04:10 PM
What the Hell is wrong with you people. Whoever is agreeing you can just deny the game is a dolt. You don't need to believe something is true for it to be true. Just because I don't believe in molecules because I can't see them doesn't mean they aren't there.

You hear of the game and therefor you are playing the game even if you don't believe the game exists. Let's say I don't know and don't think the rules of baseball exist. That doesn't mean people are just moping around in a field hitting a ball with bats and running to bases for no reason. It's still baseball whether I want to call it that or not. Same thing goes for The Game. Just because someone denies the truthfulness or existence of the rules does not mean the game does not exist. Just because you don't see any evidence of the game existing doesn't mean you're hanging out in your own special plane where rules don't apply to you.

All this circle logic is annoying; it's like a five year old asking "why?" to every damned answer.

Randomness
Jun 12, 2008, 04:12 PM
And just because you believe in something doesn't make it real. I can believe you're a cat, but it doesn't make you one. (Barring Tact) I love arguments, but if you're going to come in that serious, please...

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 04:12 PM
shligger, its not so much whether we are wrong or right, we're just bored and this is something to argue about...

Sgt_Shligger
Jun 12, 2008, 04:16 PM
A game isn't something that you can just pick up and eat either. A game exists whether there are players or not. It's an idea. You can't say an idea doesn't exist.

Also, don't argue with annoying circle logic. Make a good debate topic and there will be people glad to argue in there. This isn't a good topic to argue on because the argument against it is purely philosophical and opinionated at best.

Randomness
Jun 12, 2008, 04:17 PM
The argument for it is too.

Sgt_Shligger
Jun 12, 2008, 04:20 PM
It's not philosophical or opinionated to say a game is an idea. Games are ideas and there's no two ways about it. It's philosophical or opinionated when you say the idea isn't real because there is a part you don't believe.

Nitro Vordex
Jun 12, 2008, 04:37 PM
SHIT JUST GOT REAL.

Randomness
Jun 12, 2008, 04:48 PM
It's not philosophical or opinionated to say a game is an idea. Games are ideas and there's no two ways about it. It's philosophical or opinionated when you say the idea isn't real because there is a part you don't believe.

It is, however, philosophical to argue one can be made to play a game against their will.

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 04:49 PM
wil? ha! you have no will! FKL owns your soul!

Randomness
Jun 12, 2008, 04:50 PM
Wil may have no will, but I do.

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 04:52 PM
FKL owns your soul! no will for you!

Randomness
Jun 12, 2008, 04:54 PM
ERROR:FKL SOUL CAPACITY EXCEEDED

Thats what showed up...

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 05:02 PM
they just got a new server, your in luck :wacko: once you enter FKL there is no leaving

Weeaboolits
Jun 12, 2008, 05:04 PM
His logic is full of holes, loops I'm not so sure on, though.

astuarlen
Jun 12, 2008, 05:16 PM
And then everyone fell into a hole and were never seen or heard from again.



God, I love happy endings.

Sgt_Shligger
Jun 12, 2008, 05:30 PM
It is, however, philosophical to argue one can be made to play a game against their will.

You're not being forced, that's just the rule of the game. You're playing as soon as you know it exists.

ShinMaruku
Jun 12, 2008, 06:19 PM
Godfuckingdamn you all. My brain just exploded at all the circular fucking logic.

Actually I think we've gone beyond circles here.
Circular enjoys union with logic >_>

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 06:38 PM
shin: the loophole in everyone's logic

ShinMaruku
Jun 12, 2008, 06:42 PM
shin: the :E in everyone's logic
Fixed :E

TalHex
Jun 12, 2008, 06:44 PM
see what i mean! there is no logic!

ShinMaruku
Jun 12, 2008, 06:55 PM
:E is :E