Final cap will be 200+ ?

[Kadajenova]

During GM live support , GM named Sage told that the max lv online will be higher than 200.

Do you think it's a new lie from Segac ?

[chaostroop3]

times change, not everything in this game is going to reflect PSO. or so we have heard

[NegaTsukasa]

wow. over level 200. insane. perhaps 250 or 300 if its going to happen.
Sega has always stayed with the traditional 200 mark though.
You never know for sure until revealed. ^_^

[Ken_Silver]

I believe it to a degree.

So many people have already reached the level cap of now. Every time we get it raised a bit, they max it out again. Plus there won't be much of a story after the end of episode 3. So why not kick it up a notch and give us higher than 200 to compensate.

[deadpool612]

they could come up with a new story for us....

[goldbrease]

or they could release an adventure expansion were you can purchase vehicles and travel to dungeons on the planet that are really big and don't have missions attached to them, and may have side quests possibly. you hearing this sega! maybe a good idea for the next expansion!

[Golto]

Technically it would be easy to do but there will have to be some kind of major change to missions if they don't make S3s and above. Imagine being 2x-3x the lvl monsters are in current S2s.

[pikachief]

ITS OVER 200!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Omega_Weltall]

some one just HAD to do it just HAD do to it >_>

[Kadajenova]

If job lv increases proportionaly, lv200 means lv30 jobs.
lv300 means jobs lv50 -> fortefighter beast with 10k HP lol

[beatrixkiddo]

Unless he said something further than what I saw, it's less of "Segac Lies" and more of "#1 You need to learn English"

08:31:38 <Public> Hikaru(20041344)
hey sage is lv 200 the max in online mode?
08:31:57 <Public> Sage(20038490)
Actually the game might support higher than 200
08:32:19 <Public> Sage(20038490)
200 is the highest we could go in testing though

itt might = will

[Ezodagrom]

This: (bold the most important)
Actually the game might support higher than 200
200 is the highest we could go in testing though


Since jp is getting lvl 160 cap around september, that could be the last lvl cap before a possible next expansion, and in the next expansion...well, the cap could be higher than 200, but it's possible that it could just be 200, and nothing more.

[Ken_Silver]

ITS OVER 200!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wat?!? 200!?!

[Omega_Weltall]

/facepalm >_<

[Powder Keg]

Something tells me that more reading was necessary before assuming this.

[Inforcer]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the Level Cap goes over 200.

[Omega_Weltall]

my guess is that they'er gonna stop at 210 er so

[Syanaide]

lol201

[Omega_Weltall]

ya with a xp gap from 200 to 201 bigger than the Grand Canyon

[Kylie]

Over 200? That's very... interesting. I can't see them not releasing S3 missions or another expansion now.

Imagine us doing the current S2 missions; it's a stretch even for LV200.

[PrinceBrightstar]

What's the big deal? we had over 200 in Episode 3 for PSO.

[Omega_Weltall]

Episode 3 is the bastard child of Phantasy Star Online and shall never be mentioned again... EVER! under penalty of DEATH! but no, seriously episode 3 was ass

[goldbrease]

episode 3 had a nice story line... that would have worked better as a mmo expansion not a card game.

[Ruru]

ugh card games....

anyway i'm positive they'll make S3 anyway. with all the missions items that japan is getting from higher level bosses like deghana level 150 etc. they either HAVE to make S3 or continue to make more missions that just start out at much higher levels. or there wont be a point in playing over half the missions that are out because we'll all be at 200 (or higher) 200 will still be bad enough running through whitebeast S in less than 5 minutes solo.

[pikachief]

Something tells me that more reading was necessary before assuming this.

yup which is y i broke my scouter :(

[Kadajenova]

They won't make S3, they'll just increase mobs lv when we will reach lv 160-170 , which is mobs lv from AOTI S2 mish. And some 13-15* drops at S2 AOTI mish and they wont make 16-18* lol

[Silver19]

I actually hoping that Sega will increase the lv cap soon. All I have been doing lately is PA lving. I need more muscle :P

[Ruru]

They won't make S3, they'll just increase mobs lv when we will reach lv 160-170 , which is mobs lv from AOTI S2 mish. And some 13-15* drops at S2 AOTI mish and they wont make 16-18* lol


and how do you suppose new players will level up if all they do is increase the existing mobs levels? that doesn't make sense. the only thing they CAN do is make S3 or make NEW missions. they wont just increase the levels of already existing enemies.

[Weeaboolits]

Episode 3 is the bastard child of Phantasy Star Online and shall never be mentioned again... EVER! under penalty of DEATH! but no, seriously episode 3 was assI rather enjoyed ep3, it was a very well put together strategy card battle game, I think.

[Ezodagrom]

and how do you suppose new players will level up if all they do is increase the existing mobs levels? that doesn't make sense. the only thing they CAN do is make S3 or make NEW missions. they wont just increase the levels of already existing enemies.

Maybe rebalancing the old missions. All aoi missions except Awoken Serpent and Caves of Ice are getting lvl 150+ monsters on S2 (Sacred Stream, White Beast, Sakura Blast, Scarred Planet, Lightning Beasts, Electronic Brain and 2 new ones...all of those got monsters lvl 150 or higher on S2 difficulty). One thing that would be possible is to change the psu v1 missions and also the aoi ones with monsters below lvl 150 on S2 (caves of ice and awoken serpent) so they have at least something like this:
C - between lvl 5+ and lvl 20+ monsters
B - between lvl 25+ and lvl 45+
A - between lvl 50+ and lvl 95+
S - between lvl 100+ and lvl 145+
S2 - between lvl 150+ and...dunno 175+? 200+?
Currently those missions on S2 have monsters between lvl 80 and 115, this would make them be on par with the recently released aoi missions on jp.

Other option would be to release S3 difficulty for the v1 missions and have lvl 150+ monsters on those...but it was said by a GM some time ago that there were no plans to release S3 missions (they also said that there were no plans for a future expansion, but most likely there will be one, there should be one to at least have episode 3 story offline, like aoi have ep2 story offline XD).

When the cap gets high enough so lvl 150 - 175 or 150 - 200 monsters are too weak, then there should be a S3 difficulty with them at lvl 175 - 200 or 200+

[furrypaws]

I love how I can go somewhere and do an S2 mission with level 85 creatures but then go and do an S rank mission with level 100 creatures. Sega needs to balance this game out before they even think of dragging the cap higher.

[Ezodagrom]

I love how I can go somewhere and do an S2 mission with level 85 creatures but then go and do an S rank mission with level 100 creatures. Sega needs to balance this game out before they even think of dragging the cap higher.

Yeah, I agree xD
During the moatoob live support on june 17, I asked if there were plans to rebalance old missions...sage answered that it could be possible, but it could never happen though x.x

(btw didn't posted this in the topic I made about the june 17 live support log because I don't think it was important to put there ^^;)



07:58:15 <Public> Johana(20039007)
I was wondering about v1 missions, the ones with
07:58:26 <Public> Johana(20039007)
monsters below lvl 100...are there plans to
07:58:33 <Public> Johana(20039007)
"rebalance" those
07:58:55 <Public> Sage(20038490)
Johana, it would not be hard to rebalance those
07:59:08 <Public> Sage(20038490)
Dont know when or if that will ever happen though

[Kizeragi]

They should I think. Would make boards such as Mugunruk ALOT less expensive.

[Ezodagrom]

They should I think. Would make boards such as Mugunruk ALOT less expensive.
One thing that could be a problem to get lvl 100+ monsters on mine defense and valley of carnage would be lapucha x.x
Lapucha drops arb boa board at lvl 100+, which is aoi only...what they could do about that is they dropping a different thing at lvl 100+ on those v1 missions.

(Also if someday there would be lvl 150+ monsters on S2 v1 missions, those would have to be aoi only ^^;)

[AlliThePally]

It would be fun to see missions with really high level monsters though, the missions with the higher levels monsters are the ones I have the most fun with. As for a level 200 plus level cap that would be insane :razz: But I cant see it going past 200 it would take forever to Max your levels out But then again with higher level monsters there would be more exp given out for a kill, and then when an event with an EXP boost came out with those monsters it would be kinda fun :razz:

[amtalx]

I would be more excited if they were talking about enemy levels. Do you really need to kill things even faster than we are now?

[deadpool612]

they wouldnt reblance the levels... they give new players everything... why make them lose out on playing a level. they would just make S3 runs

[Illuminate]

If job lv increases proportionaly, lv200 means lv30 jobs.
lv300 means jobs lv50 -> fortefighter beast with 10k HP lol
xD Please, I want to do 10,000 without using JA with Anga Redda. LOL

[Freshellent]

At what lvl do I get to snipe DeRagan from B1?

[Ezodagrom]

they wouldnt reblance the levels... they give new players everything... why make them lose out on playing a level. they would just make S3 runs

New players wouldn't lose anything...posted on official psu forums (suggestions and ideas part) this, my idea of a possible rebalance:
(of course something like this will never happen ^^;)

Put it in spoiler box because it's a bit too much text xD
[spoiler-box]
Examples of how the missions could become:

Mission name:
Difficulty - Enemy lvl/Boss lvl (or mini boss)

For example Unsafe Passage could have the lowest lvl monsters other than the tutorial mission, which has lvl 1 monsters:
C - lvl 5 (or lvl 1, if lvl 5 is too much for a new player)
B - lvl 20
A - lvl 50
S - lvl 100
S2 - lvl 150

Fight for Food:
C - lvl 10/15 (or 5/10)
B - lvl 25/30
A - lvl 55/60
S - lvl 105/110
S2 - lvl 155/160

Parum: Mad Creatures, Train Rescue, AMF HQ Recovery, Scarred Planet.
Neudaiz: Mizuraki Defense, Forested Islands, Sacred Stream.
Moatoob: System Defense, Valley of Carnage:
C - lvl 10/15
B - lvl 25/30
A - lvl 60/65
S - lvl 110/115
S2 - lvl 160/165

Colony: Dark Satellite, The Black Nest.
Parum: Military Subway, Lightning Beasts, Sleeping Warriors, Crimson Beast, Lab Recovery.
Neudaiz: Cost of Research, Sakura Blast, The Holy Ground, The Eastern Peril, Forest Infiltration, Hill of Spores.
Moatoob: Mine Defense, Rogues' Shortcut, Tunnel Recapture, Caves of Ice, Remote Base:
C - lvl 15/20
B - lvl 30/35
A - lvl 70/75
S - lvl 120/125
S2 - lvl 165/170

Colony: True Darkness, Seal of the Dark God, SEED Express.
Parum: Plains Overlord, The Mad Beasts, Endrum Remnants, Duel in the Ruins.
Neudaiz: White Beast, Demons Above, Sakura Warpath, Moonlight Beast, Grove of Fanatics, Dancing Birds.
Moatoob: Desert Terror, Stolen Weapon, Awoken Serpent, Remaining Blades:
C - lvl 15/20
B - lvl 30/35
A - lvl 80/85
S - lvl 130/135
S2 - lvl 170/175

Colony: SEED Awakened, Maximum Attack G', Program DF'.
Parum: Electronic Brain, The Dual Sentinel, The Egg Thieves, Mine of Illusion.
Neudaiz: White beast, Her Secret Mission, Fires of Illusion.
Moatoob: Desert Goliath, Bruce Dungeon, Forest of Illusion:
C - lvl 20/25
B - lvl 40/45
A - lvl 90/95
S - lvl 140/145
S2 - lvl 180/185 [/spoiler-box]

Like this there would be monsters (not including bosses/mini bosses) at lvl 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 55, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 105, 110, 120, 130, 140, 150, 155, 160, 165, 170 and 180 (enough for new players and old players, I guess :P)

[Golto]

They like to have some monsters at the end of a version to be higher than the lvl cap. Anyone who thinks AOI won't have at least a lvl 200 cap is mistaken. So they will have to put lvl 200+ monsters somewhere.

[PrinceBrightstar]

You'll have to create new drops for V1 missions.

[bp_shoruko]

we could officially change the beast foetefighters name for fortebroken should such a thing happen... not that they aren't already.

[Poncho_Jr]

I'm hoping to see a level cap 200, about two years from now. People will get bored. Bored people leads to less play. Less play eventually leads to not playing at all. Not playing at all leads to cancellation of account. Cancellation of account leads to no more monthly payment. Need I go further?

[Ruru]

kinda like alfort tylor >.>; he does massive damage with his blackheart.... can't even compare with my cast AF lol. he outdamages her when she's got acrotecher buffs and he's got nothing....

[Totori]

Just for you to know i asked the question to sage AhHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Elley]

I hope the cap is higher than 200. It's 130 already, and I don't want to be able to stop leveling anytime soon. :s

[EMPYREAN]

hmm some1 said that this game is gonna last for 5 years. and since we r getting a new cap every 2-3(i think) months then we might have the 200 cap during next spring/summer.
to not be able to Lv upp again for the remaning say 2 1/2 years seems strange and boring to me.

[Kadajenova]

What do you think about this hypothesis:

year 1 (october 2006-october 2007) : cap 50 to cap 100 -> 5 caps

year 2 (oct.2007 to oct.2008) : cap 100 to cap 150 -> 5 caps (so we're in a good timing)

year 3 (oct.2008 to oct.2009) : cap 150 to cap 200 -> 5 caps

year 4 (oct.2009 to oct.2010) : new expansion, cap 200 to cap 250 ?

year 5 (oct.2010 to oct.2011) : cap 250 to cap 300 ?

[H3Av3NS PUNISH3R]

What do you think about this hypothesis:

year 1 (october 2006-october 2007) : cap 50 to cap 100 -> 5 caps

year 2 (oct.2007 to oct.2008) : cap 100 to cap 150 -> 5 caps (so we're in a good timing)

year 3 (oct.2008 to oct.2009) : cap 150 to cap 200 -> 5 caps

year 4 (oct.2009 to oct.2010) : new expansion, cap 200 to cap 250 ?

year 5 (oct.2010 to oct.2011) : cap 250 to cap 300 ?

If this hypothesis IS true, we will not get a cap for at least 2 more months...:no:

[ForteGunnerW]

I think it could be true. but i wish sega could let us have hoverboards so it was quicker and you could attack on them that would be awsome