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SportsComedian
Jun 25, 2008, 09:42 AM
Does it pay to level a PA past level 31 if the max is 40 for your class. With the new benefits being gained at each 01 level, are the last 9 levels pointless?

chaoskila
Jun 25, 2008, 09:43 AM
its convenient for when you need to lvl it to 41

Shou
Jun 25, 2008, 09:53 AM
Yes. Lvl your PA.

Alastor_Haven
Jun 25, 2008, 09:55 AM
The damage boost is quite big

~Huggles Anga Jabroga
Even if it's over kill

lololol

Zorafim
Jun 25, 2008, 09:58 AM
Depending on your weapon and class, every couple of levels of PA leveling more or less corresponds to an increase in weapon rarity. The difference between lv31 and lv40 majarra may be the same difference between using a 9* and a 11* lance. Forgive me if I can't get exact numbers out right now, but the numbers add up.

Golto
Jun 25, 2008, 10:03 AM
If it gains 2% or more atp per level I think its worth it, or you plan on going with one of the master types and will use the PA.

Mewnie
Jun 25, 2008, 10:08 AM
It depends on how badly you want to powerlevel them past 31. If you're going to use them often anyways, they'll level up with use naturally. And given the exp boost, that shouldn't take too long.

desturel
Jun 25, 2008, 10:09 AM
Does it pay to level a PA past level 31 if the max is 40 for your class. With the new benefits being gained at each 01 level, are the last 9 levels pointless?

In general most non striking PAs are the most efficient at the x0 level. You get the most power at the least cost. For example at level 1 tech and a level 10 tech cost the same amount of PP to cast, but the level 10 tech is 9% stronger than a level 1 tech. The level 11 tech is 10% stronger, but also has an additional PP cost attached to it that is sometimes not in proportion to the additional 1% of strength gained.

This was the problem with killer shot 31 before everything was rebalanced. It had the same level of ability as killer shot 30, but cost additional PP making it pointless to go past level 30 on the PA. Of course that is fixed now and killer shot has no PP increase from level 21 until level 50, but I am using that as an example.

In other words, there's no reason to leave your techs and bullets at "x1" level. They only get more powerful, but they do not cost any additional PP... unless you are the type that hates free extra damage.

For striking PAs, this also applies since for the majority of them, the additional PP cost only comes with the addition of another step on the PA. For example Renkai Buyou-zan cost 16 PP per part. So at level 1 doing one step of renkai costs you 16 (unless you are a FF). At level 11 doing one part of renkai costs you 16 and the second part costs you 16 (32 PP total). At level 21 the first part costs 16, the second part costs 16, and the third part costs 16 (48 PP).

So by the logic put forth in the original post, there's no reason to level Renkai Buyou-zan past level 21 because there's no additional gain in steps. It's still only 3 parts that still only cost a total for 48 PP from level 21 to level 40. In fact there's no point in leveling Bogga Zubba, Tornado Dance, or Anga Jabroga since those are single step PAs that gain nothing but power and accuracy. No point in leveling cards or twin handgun bullets since they don't gain status effect levels.

What I'm saying is, there's no reason to not max out your PAs to 40 if you want to do the most damage possible. Plus, as was already mentioned, it helps when you need to get your final spells and items to level 41 in the future. You only have one level to complete. Not 10.

EMPYREAN
Jun 25, 2008, 10:58 AM
if u r not planning on becoming a master ther is no need to power LV PAs past 31. just by playing and using them normaly will do the job fine.

but yes a 40 PAs is stronger than a 31.

SportsComedian
Jun 25, 2008, 11:16 AM
Great, thanks everybody. When looking on PSUpedia, it seemed like they only gained meaningful stat increases every 10 levels.