View Full Version : JP PSU How to Join the Japanese Server
AxelgearVII
06-28-2008, 11:06 AM
To accommodate the influx of PM's I've been getting lately, and the requests for it that I've been seeing on the boards, I made a PSUpedia article with my best instructions on how to sign up on the Japanese server:
http://psupedia.info/Joining_the_Japanese_Server
If anyone feels it's not thorough or accurate enough, feel free to tweak it. That's what wiki's are for, after all.
strikershadow
06-28-2008, 11:30 AM
MOD PLEASE STICKY THIS! This is great thanks, I am definately deciding on if this is the way to go or not.
Magitek_X
06-28-2008, 12:14 PM
Maybe Sega of Japan will appreciate my money more than Sega of America does.
TecherRamen
06-28-2008, 12:20 PM
Dumb question: Do you need to have a Japanese copy of the game?
Alastor_Haven
06-28-2008, 12:22 PM
Correct
If you wanna well.. you know what - You can't due to the fact it needs a CD-KEY
Magitek_X
06-28-2008, 12:22 PM
Yes, you need the JP version.
Edit: So if I decided to join the JP server, how would I go on finding English speaking players?
dentRED
06-28-2008, 12:29 PM
1 question, is it only possible to do on ps2?
Lyrise
06-28-2008, 12:55 PM
Yes, you need the JP version.
Edit: So if I decided to join the JP server, how would I go on finding English speaking players?
You do so on IRC. #psujp on irc.gamesurge.net. Everyone's been busy lately, or too busy to notice, so if you feel like you're being ignored, it's not intentional. (it happened twice yesterday, to those who came to the channel and found 0 response, my apologies)
Abashi76
06-28-2008, 12:57 PM
I think they should just merge out server with theirs, and assign an official english speaking universe or 2.
Yusaku_Kudou
06-28-2008, 01:00 PM
I think they should just merge out server with theirs, and assign an official english speaking universe or 2.
This would obviously make the most sense.
Seriously, though, learning katakana is ridiculously easy. The language barrier is only present when you run into kanji or grammar you don't recognize, but even that is possible to overcome. If you can play PSU in English, you probably don't even need to read the menus any longer anyhow.
pikachief
06-28-2008, 01:13 PM
This would obviously make the most sense.
Seriously, though, learning katakana is ridiculously easy. The language barrier is only present when you run into kanji or grammar you don't recognize, but even that is possible to overcome. If you can play PSU in English, you probably don't even need to read the menus any longer anyhow.
u dont lol when i join JP servers all i need to learn is how to read the weapon types so i know what board i have :P lol
Magitek_X
06-28-2008, 01:35 PM
I already have a JP PS2, which I use for playing Super Robot Wars. Menu memorization is something I'm use to. I don't know if I should join yet, I have around 400 hours dedicated to my characters and starting over is gonna be hard. I'll have to take some time to consider.
ashley50
06-28-2008, 02:11 PM
u dont lol when i join JP servers all i need to learn is how to read the weapon types so i know what board i have :P lol
You're just lazy or stubborn to listen to others...or so what I've heard to those people who tried to help you.
Shiro_Ryuu
06-28-2008, 03:13 PM
Yeah, it would be awesome to merge the servers. That way, those of us who can speak Japanese here like me or Espio who would want to play with Japanese people would at least have the option. But yeah, I might consider moving to Japanese servers. o.o
nice idea of putting it on the wiki
I think it should be stated that you cannot cancel the 30 day sign up until after your 2nd month begins
so basically you have to pay for a minimum of 2 months
goud71493
06-28-2008, 04:03 PM
I only got 2 questions about this.
1. Do you have to buy the original PSU also?
2. Is it still 10 bucks?
relentless
06-28-2008, 04:12 PM
To your first question, I think the exact same first question is asked in this thread:
http://pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145391
Hope that helps.
edit:
As far as I know you don't need the original PSU disc, but the AoI one.
Kizeragi
06-28-2008, 07:01 PM
You only need the JP AoI disk, not the orginal PSU one.
segadrm10
06-29-2008, 02:12 AM
does anyone know a website were u can buy the game for pc? and is it easy to pay for the monthly fee or is diffucult?
beatrixkiddo
06-29-2008, 02:22 AM
http://pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145599
Lyrise
06-29-2008, 02:24 AM
Places where you can buy the game (off the top of my head):
Play-asia.com
NCIX.com
himeyashop.com
As for paying for the game, you can use a timecode, Netcash (they discontinued webmoney again for the 3rd time), or you can use a credit card to enter auto-recurrence mode (where you will automatically pay for the subcription every 1st of the month, regardless of when you initiate that subscription; the earlier on you join in the month, the more of a "free trial" you get.)
2. Is it still 10 bucks?
It is roughly 10$ it really depends on how much your currency exchanges into yen,
last month it was 9.99$ with an international service fee of 30$ from visa.
I think thats the most i've paid since i joined last year
I one I signed up for is 1050 yen (as of right now = 9.89$)
you can check at xe.com :p
I think it should be stated that you cannot cancel the 30 day sign up until after your 2nd month begins
so basically you have to pay for a minimum of 2 months
this applies to credit/debit card payments (I havent tried the other methods)
Lyrise
06-29-2008, 10:57 AM
For those who are wondering why, the reason you cannot cancel until month #2 begins is to keep people from exploiting the possible loophole of not having to pay at all.
Remember I said that ISAO will only charge you on the 1st of every month, and ONLY on the 1st. Without that rule in place, what's to stop me from signing up on the 2nd, and cancelling on the 15th, whereby you've given the 2 weeks cancellation notice, and then reactivating on the 2nd again?
By forcing a 2 month rule, you are forced to pay up at least once.
str898mustang
06-29-2008, 11:19 AM
Yeah so I play the US version on dial-up internet. I'm guessing joining the JP server is outta the question.....
DreXxiN
06-29-2008, 11:36 AM
You..have...dialup? How....
Anywho, is it possible for PS2 players AND PC players to go on JP servers, or do I need to buy an imported JP PS2? I was thinking with MagicSwap I could possibly get an American PS2 to run it.
Lyrise
06-29-2008, 12:35 PM
You..have...dialup? How....
Anywho, is it possible for PS2 players AND PC players to go on JP servers, or do I need to buy an imported JP PS2? I was thinking with MagicSwap I could possibly get an American PS2 to run it.
Not sure what you're trying to ask here, but lets see if I can make sense of it here.
On the first point, of course it is possible for the PC and PS2 players to go to the Japanese servers with the local hardware available to you. (just as long as you aren't trying to access the Japanese servers with International versions of the game)
IF you plan on playing on a PS2 you should be able to play using a swap disc; import PS2 not necessary. Remember, the serial key is used for your online account, and PC offline play. So regardless of which version you have, you essentially have access to the 2 versions (though you would have to find a means to acquire the version you did NOT buy; which will also not be discussed here)
beatrixkiddo
06-29-2008, 12:58 PM
Didn't the official JP website have a direct download of the PC version for people who bought PS2 and wanted to use PC too?
str898mustang
06-29-2008, 01:28 PM
You..have...dialup? How....
Anywho, is it possible for PS2 players AND PC players to go on JP servers, or do I need to buy an imported JP PS2? I was thinking with MagicSwap I could possibly get an American PS2 to run it.
Yep been playing this on dial-up since the release. I've got a half-second to 1second lag time but I'm use to it. It's got some limitations like I only play with 3 other people and mission counters that have more than one mission like Raffon Field Base, I sometimes lag out at.
Didn't the official JP website have a direct download of the PC version for people who bought PS2 and wanted to use PC too?
I thought that was for the people having problems reading the dual layer dvd in their pc's
Midicronica
06-29-2008, 03:10 PM
Must be nice to post here and not automatically get called a troll, VII. :wacko:
I've always wondered what the grass was like on the other side but I don't think I could start over or if my PC could handle PSU.
AxelgearVII
06-30-2008, 01:16 PM
Must be nice to post here and not automatically get called a troll, VII. :wacko:
Only because the VII Factor fiasco blew over. :wacko: But even that was an informative thread.
pikachief
06-30-2008, 01:25 PM
idk y u did it, it was dumb >.> lol
VetroDrago
06-30-2008, 04:28 PM
Hmm, this all sounds interesting. I play on my PS3 (actually posting this from PS3), and I can change the system language to Japanese. When I do that and get on the system browser, Google is in Japanese. So it seems like I can register on my PS3 and play on the JP servers on my system. Is this correct?
beatrixkiddo
06-30-2008, 05:00 PM
Hmm, this all sounds interesting. I play on my PS3 (actually posting this from PS3), and I can change the system language to Japanese. When I do that and get on the system browser, Google is in Japanese. So it seems like I can register on my PS3 and play on the JP servers on my system. Is this correct?
No, because your system cannot read Japanese PlayStation2 discs.
Ken_Silver
06-30-2008, 09:58 PM
This is indeed a good idea, but I love the story of this game and I want to be able to read it too...
I'll use this as a last resort... because I get the feeling that the US servers may get shutdown before the JPN ones, like what happened to the PSOBB servers (Or so I have been told.)
I pray to the Holy Light that I am wrong though...
chaoskila
07-01-2008, 10:53 PM
how much does it cost per month to play in the jp servers. same amount?
10 bucks?
Itsuki
07-02-2008, 03:13 AM
how much does it cost per month to play in the jp servers. same amount?
10 bucks?
Depends on the month and the exchange rate. Right now, the dollar is kinda suck, so its more than it used to. Its 1050yen, so right now, that should be about $9.90. But, theres been months when it has been as low as like 8.75 or so. But its still usually in that $9 to $10 range.
For reference, its usually around 6 to 6.25 euro.
Seority
07-02-2008, 03:17 AM
Make sure you're ready to deal with a HUGE community of elitest. They don't take so-so for an answer.
I think that should be put into the guide, but that's just me I suppose.
:roll:
Make sure you're ready to deal with a HUGE community of elitest. They don't take so-so for an answer.
I think that should be put into the guide, but that's just me I suppose.
:roll:
Because you've played on that server amirite? ;o
Seority
07-02-2008, 03:29 AM
I've been told and even warned about it.
If I didn't already spend 2000k hours on my current acc and had a PC I'd so go over there also. I'd love a compitent community for a change!
^_^
Namira
07-02-2008, 03:45 AM
Make sure you're ready to deal with a HUGE community of elitest. They don't take so-so for an answer.
I think that should be put into the guide, but that's just me I suppose.
:roll:
Haha, you have no idea what you're talking about. I've been playing on JP servers since the beginning, and I don't play as much as most people; I've sometimes taken breaks for more than 4-5 months, and every time I play I'm always finding myself under leveled compared to the rest. I've never had more than a few million meseta, most of my equipment is A rank, with a few S ranks (None above 30% or grinded past 4) I still don't have more than 2 good elemental armors to switch to. My equipment and level is basically the exact definition of "so-so". Before the dark event started, my main was only at lv95.
And regardless of all that, I've had no trouble playing with the english-speaking community this whole time. I'm able to join parties with no problem (as long as I meet the level requirement), and no one has ever complained to me that my equipment isn't good enough or that I should play better. Whoever told you and warned you about the community being elitist must not have played enough or with the right people. The english-speaking community on PSU JP is great.
Edit: I'd really like to know who told you and warned you about it, by the way. =)
Arika
07-02-2008, 05:32 AM
JP players for the majority doesn't care your equipment (in random party). They only care how you play and that you are helpful or not. (so this is the different point than uni2 that allow spam PA) Usually, they also have very polite manner, when they don't want to have you in the party, they will leave the party instead of kick you out lol.
While, the etilist group of JP alway lock party anyway. (but this is same to US lol)
However, all of all, you will feel really annoy when you feel like to talk, but can't chat in JP. many people can't stay long, because of that. Most of importers also are casual players since they don't have many JP friends(or have none). However, there are also few that very active too. The community will be very big if you know JP, but will be very small if you not.
Seority
07-02-2008, 05:50 AM
Nyaw! And I had my hopes up. :roll:
I heard it from the man called DreXxiN. He wants to go over there for that reason. I knew the Japanese players were into PSU, but I also questioned this elitest disease he spoke of. Well, off to Jaggo hunt some more.
Namira
07-02-2008, 06:08 AM
Heh, perhaps I misunderstood your post, I wasn't sure if you were talking about the english-speaking community or the Japanese community. >_> Either way, I've never had any problems in random parties either despite my "so-so" equipment, but if you're worried about random parties not being good, then that's not a problem either. Not that I normally look out for things like that, but I haven't been in many random parties that I've felt are inefficient or not playing well.
And I disagree with Arika about the community feeling small if you can't speak japanese, the english-speaking community isn't that small, and it's still not that bad (in my opinion) to not be able to fully communicate. You'll be able to communicate more in a random JP party than you would be able to in some US random parties anyways. -_-
Arika
07-02-2008, 06:17 AM
You'll be able to communicate more in a random JP party than you would be able to in some US random parties anyways. -_-
some of the best speaking group vs some of the worst in US group, that is very unfair comparison lol.
Every importers know how much English can major of Japanese speak. Also, you missed my point, my point is for those who have no ability in JP language. It is not same as old importers group who already be able to read and understand for general part. You can tell me how many active importers are there lol :-P
In MMORPG game, group of many friends usually make people stay longer+active.
My point is that "try it before the real decision" I don't want people to hope to high and then quit after a few weeks.
The JP server is indeed best of best. However, it is all up to how much language ability on each individual have. they will have different kind of enjoyment.
Also, basic requirement to be able to stay there is katakana. if you are unable to read any of that at all. no1 will translate everything for you all the time. For me, I m good there, because I know Kanji, kanatana , and also some general hiragana. Although, I m still not good at writting.
Namira
07-02-2008, 06:54 AM
some of the best speaking group vs some of the worst in US group, that is very unfair comparison lol.
Every importers know how much English can major of Japanese speak. Also, you missed my point, my point is for those who have no ability in JP language. It is not same as old importers group who already be able to read and understand for general part. You can tell me how many active importers are there lol :-P
In MMORPG game, group of many friends usually make people stay longer+active.
I'm just saying, I've been in a lot of US random parties where people won't say a single word or are unable to type properly, and I'd rather be in a JP party where at least (and this is only what I can understand) people say hi, yoroshiku, thank you, congratulations, etc. =P I can read katakana and hiragana, but I don't actually know more than 10-15 japanese words, and I don't mind that at all.
And when I first started playing again a few weeks ago, I thought there weren't many importers left, but there's actually been a lot of people returning lately and now there are a decent amount importers playing. (At least, enough to get a party of 3+ going) Right now I have 18 importers at #1 on my card list because I've seen them online in the past week. (This includes Midori twice though >_>) And actually, (You might have noticed this too), but I don't think I've ever seen you in-game Arika. =P And I don't have your card either. So that raises the number to 19, and as you can see in this thread there are a lot of new people considering joining.
So...I honestly can't say that I find anything wrong with JP servers when it comes to the japanese community OR the importer community. =/ But that's just my opinion, and obviously some people desire more communication and a bigger english-speaking community than I do. =P
DreXxiN
07-02-2008, 07:06 AM
You just have to try and use your class to the best of your ability there; No real PA leveling and such that doesn't benefit the team. Most of the community has their PA's pretty high, if not, at 40.
Elitist in American culture = Competent/respectful in Japan.
(Just as)
Geek in American culture = average. dedicated student in Japan
And some man called DreXxiN
Lol yes..just some ordinary man ;;
Arika
07-02-2008, 07:38 AM
honestly although I don't have much time there either, but I have been there all the time, whether there is an event or not. there is population increase when the event come, because people like you, come back. However, when there is no event, ... ;/
I m not style to be casual players, but I am forced to solo only if I want to play during non-event period. Or at best, duo with vectormanX ^^;
anyway, look at the AoI JP first period, we got like 30-40 people running around. Most of them came from US server. but then...phew.... ;/
I don't want something like that again, so I just want to let people here just have a try first.
It will be like the heaven for some of you, and opporsite for some.
It would be best for all lol, if every single people here just all move to JP, so we will have the same size community with JP update and customer support xD as if this is possible anyway <<;
Kylie
07-02-2008, 01:38 PM
Eh. Restarting all of my characters, leaving my friends, and diving into a bunch of moonspeak isn't worth it just to get better service and more content. Good luck to everyone else though.
Itsuki
07-02-2008, 01:57 PM
The JP server really fluctuates though. Theres been some months were its been down to only a handful, and then other times where theres multiple full parties running at once and you're finding a hard time to get in. Then again though, the english speaking JP community is the kind that will split the party into a group of 3 and a group of 4 if there are 7 people, rather than leaving someone out.
Now, as for the japanese on JP. There are certain circles that are very elitist. And there are certain circles that are very racist about english speaking players. They do really make parties with "JP ONLY" in the title. And I will admit I have been kicked just for speaking english. But, I'll tell you straight out, I've been kicked out of random parties on the US server for being underlevelled or leveling bullets FAR FAR more than I have on JP. Now, I'll admit, that these days, I almost never party with JP anymore, because I never need to. But, I've only been kicked from random parties maybe twice (counting out for speaking english). And those times, it was always in max level parties, where I was no max level and didn't have max bullets, but where they were hunting for specific rares and could not hold my own. And even then, both of those times, they kindly requested that I leave, they didn't just straight kick me.
The biggest things I think, to enjoying playing on the JP server:
- You have to be willing to party with JP people at least sometimes. Some of us never have, but elevates a lot of leveling issues, especially with newer players. If you join during an event, this isn't as much as an issue, since the english speaking community can and will power level you to like 80 as fast as you want. But, its far more enjoyable once you get into a level range where you can hunt for stuff.
- Being available / willing to play at night in north American time is preferable. I haven't seen any of my European player cards on in a while. But, the NA players tend to be on the most from like 9pm to 3am EST. Excluding weekends, when people are on randomly.
- You have to get along with others. Another issue people leave is because they get into random arguments with people. Not liking 1 or 2 people and avoiding partying with them can be fine. But if its any more than that, or depending on which people it is, you may find yourself finding it hard to find parties. I will admit theres some JP players that I don't particularly like, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to party with them every now and then.
- You have to be willing to party where the party wants to, rather than where you want to. A lot of us try to go level in random place when people want to look for certain things. But, it may not be where you want to go. Also, because we're very open to leveling n00bs, if someone signs on that is too low for the current area, we're probably going to move to a new place to accommodate. Basially, the more you party with us, the more we're going to party with you.
- About the only rule that we do have is that you contribute. If we help you level when you're a n00b, we expect that if another n00b comes on or if someone creates an alt, you'll help them level too. Or for example, its understood that talking without killing is something you do on IRC. Talking about random stuff is good and all in game, as long as its while killing/partying. We're not the kind of people to sit around in our my rooms and talk for more than a few minutes.
Chaegyung
07-02-2008, 04:54 PM
Is there a specific universe the English speaking community plays on or is it just random?
Itsuki
07-02-2008, 05:04 PM
Is there a specific universe the English speaking community plays on or is it just random?
It used to be universe 15, but lately its been whatever universe we spawn in. So its been pretty random.
Ken_Silver
07-02-2008, 05:27 PM
Is there a specific universe the English speaking community plays on or is it just random?
We should make one. It'll make the transfer a lot mre easier for those who don't speak Japanese and still want to play the game.
It's one of my major problems. I want to learn Japanese, but until I do... well, you know.
Googlebonker
07-03-2008, 05:57 AM
lol Talk about one way to merge servers, huh? It would be interesting to do, but, as many people would probably say, starting over at this point would seem like such a chore. PAs, characters, items. @_@ Oi.
Maybe if all the non-JP PC/PS2 users migrated, then we could whine about getting some English language compatibility.
Someone show THIS thread to SEGA and see what they do. XD lol
Itsuki
07-03-2008, 07:14 AM
lol Talk about one way to merge servers, huh? It would be interesting to do, but, as many people would probably say, starting over at this point would seem like such a chore. PAs, characters, items. @_@ Oi.
Maybe if all the non-JP PC/PS2 users migrated, then we could whine about getting some English language compatibility.
Someone show THIS thread to SEGA and see what they do. XD lol
Personally I think its easier than most people thing. PAs do take quite a while, that I will not deny. But getting up to level and getting basic equipment isn't that bad usually. Especially if you join during an event, since you have double exp.
Googlebonker
07-03-2008, 07:37 AM
Whoa! :O
I posted a thread about this one on the official PSU forums, asking GMs if they would encourage, take a neutral stance on, or discourage an exodus of non-JP PC/PS2 server users to the JP PC/PS2 servers. essen said that VII posted a thread about this subject on the official PSU forums, and that it had been deleted.
Not too long after, my post had also been deleted.
Is Sega of America threatened by this prospect? The deleting of those two threads along with the history of non-JP PSU fuels me to consider less the progress I was speaking about that I might not want to let go of. Honestly, it makes me want to head or assist with a project to help with such an exodus. >.>
SEGA and/or Sonic Team have been so annoying, and now they don't want us to assist and talk about something like this? That's messed up.
Kerry157
07-03-2008, 08:03 AM
This game is not good enough to warrant restarting on a different server. If you're going to start over, do so with a better game.
Squid_Gogglez
07-03-2008, 08:03 AM
Several of my posts and topics have been deleted without warning
when the subject pertained to an outside matter regarding Sega of America.
This doesn't surprise me in any way. I do hope some changes are made for the positive.
Seems that Sega of America is running a Kubara Version of Sonic Team's Phantasy Star Universe/AoTi.
With the audacity to charge its users for the real version of Sonic Team Product.
autumn
07-03-2008, 08:15 AM
My JP copy arrives Tuesday. If any of the JP playing community finds that they will be on over the course of the day please PM me so hopefully I can meet up with some of you. A universe where the US/EU players go would be wonderful and very helpful to those of us making the move as well.
BIGGIEstyle
07-03-2008, 08:31 AM
My JP copy arrives Tuesday. If any of the JP playing community finds that they will be on over the course of the day please PM me so hopefully I can meet up with some of you. A universe where the US/EU players go would be wonderful and very helpful to those of us making the move as well.
Biggie agrees with this.
LoL My copy is arriving Tuesday as well... then I get to do what my friends are always bugging me to do and power through a bunch of katakana and then rebuild characters over there.
So for now, Happy 4th to everyone who celebrates it and JP community I'll see you Tuesday or Wednesday.
Magitek_X
07-03-2008, 10:32 AM
I've been unable to logon for a week due to problems with the billing server. I'm practically trying to give SoA my money, and they don't act like they want it. This is a problem they've known since the May, and they didn't do anything because they gave everyone a free period and they rested on their laurels.
I'm gonna try to finish a few games I have on the backburner, and I'm jumping servers if it isn't fixed by then.
Edit:
Ah screw it. I had an extra Play Asia coupon, so I just bought it. JAPAN OR BUST.
Second Edit:
Mine's arriving later, apparently they're shipping in a week. See ya guys in two week or so.
Itsuki
07-03-2008, 06:10 PM
My JP copy arrives Tuesday. If any of the JP playing community finds that they will be on over the course of the day please PM me so hopefully I can meet up with some of you. A universe where the US/EU players go would be wonderful and very helpful to those of us making the move as well.
LoL My copy is arriving Tuesday as well... then I get to do what my friends are always bugging me to do and power through a bunch of katakana and then rebuild characters over there.
So for now, Happy 4th to everyone who celebrates it and JP community I'll see you Tuesday or Wednesday.
When you two do, the best bet is always to grab us on the IRC server, or over aim or msn. IRC server is usually the best bet, but I'll be sure to be looking out for you all.
autumn
07-03-2008, 07:12 PM
Going out on a limb and sounding exceptionally stupid, what is an IRC server?
Lyrise
07-03-2008, 07:21 PM
IRC= Internet Relay Chat.
In other words, chat server.
Grab an IRC client, like mIRC, HydraIRC, LeafChat, etc, connect to an IRC server, enter a specified channel, and chat with everyone there.
The importer community largely frequents irc.gamesurge.net (the server) on channel #psujp.
Itsuki
07-03-2008, 08:35 PM
Yes, as Lyrise said, its basically a chatroom. IRC is old as time... well, not really. But its older than the world wide web.
Servers are basically collections of channels. Channels are basically chatrooms. Basicalyl you need to download a client. Theres several different clients for accessing the servers. Just like you can access the world wide web with firefox, internet explorer, opera, etc. there's several clients for accessing IRC servers and each has different features.
mIRC is the most popular, mainly because its the most customizable. Most guides online are going to use this. Also its lack of features and complexity (without addons) makes it simple enough for new users.
You then need to join the server (irc.gamesurge.net in this case). And then use the pretty much universal command:
/join #channel
Which in this case would be
/join #psujp
And then viola, you can chat with us.
RemiusTA
07-03-2008, 08:41 PM
Whoa! :O
I posted a thread about this one on the official PSU forums, asking GMs if they would encourage, take a neutral stance on, or discourage an exodus of non-JP PC/PS2 server users to the JP PC/PS2 servers. essen said that VII posted a thread about this subject on the official PSU forums, and that it had been deleted.
Not too long after, my post had also been deleted.
Is Sega of America threatened by this prospect? The deleting of those two threads along with the history of non-JP PSU fuels me to consider less the progress I was speaking about that I might not want to let go of. Honestly, it makes me want to head or assist with a project to help with such an exodus. >.>
SEGA and/or Sonic Team have been so annoying, and now they don't want us to assist and talk about something like this? That's messed up.
SoA and SoJ are techincally two different companies. Of course, all the games that come out of SoA are fucking garbage (save for Sonic Adventure 2, but most of the employees were from japan anyway, obviously from looking at the credits.)
SoJ makes all the good games, and SoA just likes to fuck shit up. Im under the impression the translation squad for Sega of America are the same fucking losers who made Shadow the Hedgehog (that horrible, Superman64-esque shitpile of a game), which would explain why everything is so slow and why everybody on the staff is so damn incompetent.
Im seriously thinking of just ditching my people on these doomed servers and joining the only ones getting real attention. At this point the iceburg already hit and a fucking meteor is right behind it (MAG2 cancel anybody?), so I'd like to jump off this sinking ship before it starts to burn as well.
So even though they are both "SEGA", technically one of them would be losing money and one would be gaining money.
Magitek_X
07-03-2008, 09:15 PM
Well, SoJ isn't without it's faults, especially Sonic Team. They've mishandled quite a bit of Sega IP badly.
RemiusTA
07-03-2008, 10:06 PM
Oh yeah, SoJ are fucking idiots too. Its just that their epic screwups (which are INDEED epic) are not nearly as bad as SoA.
SoJ releases constantly buggy updates that require rollbacks.
SoA releases Test Missions on the player servers and kills the Billing Servers during key summer events.
See the difference? One is forgiveable, the other is just plain pathetic.
Adriano
07-03-2008, 10:17 PM
When you say things like that, you make it sound as if it were so uncomplicated, I imagine things are a bit different though, I'm sure it takes a lot of time and effort to even put forth what they do as it is, bottom line is, if youre tired of the errors of SoA then stop playing psu.
or join the ...nvm :lol:
Treize K
07-04-2008, 03:41 AM
I cant wait for mine to get here :grin:
autumn
07-04-2008, 12:02 PM
Oh boy more low level company! :D
moomoopenguin
07-04-2008, 01:02 PM
i can't seem to get it to workl >.<
Lyrise
07-04-2008, 01:06 PM
You can't get what to work?
moomoopenguin
07-04-2008, 01:09 PM
my last name won't tranlate to kanji and i think i'm filling out stuff wrong >.<
Your characters made on US/EU servers don't carry over to JP, right?
Adriano
07-04-2008, 02:06 PM
That is correct.
Kamica
07-04-2008, 02:30 PM
my last name won't tranlate to kanji and i think i'm filling out stuff wrong >.<
We can help you better if you come to our irc channel
moomoopenguin
07-04-2008, 03:22 PM
We can help you better if you come to our irc channel
ok there but no one's in there >.>
Lyrise
07-04-2008, 03:57 PM
Are you sure about that? There have been people in there, including myself for the past few hours. Maake sure you've got the address right - #PSUJP on irc.gamesurge.net.
moomoopenguin
07-04-2008, 04:17 PM
mirc right?
Kamica
07-04-2008, 04:19 PM
mirc is fine
Lyrise
07-04-2008, 04:35 PM
Doesn't matter what client you use, just get the server and channel right. #PSUJP on irc.gamesurge.net.
Itsuki
07-04-2008, 05:49 PM
The name needs to be in katakana if I recall correctly. You can always copy and paste it in from the examples if you have no other choice. You need IME enabled to do this, and japanese has to be set as a language on your browser (not the ability to see japanese text, but the language must actually be added). I see you may have already gotten a hold of some of them in IRC, but we'll see. ^^
Treize K
07-05-2008, 01:36 AM
>.> I cant get on dat IRC thing >.>
edit i got on no1 there >.>
Kamica
07-05-2008, 02:02 AM
>.> I cant get on dat IRC thing >.>
edit i got on no1 there >.>
If you see no one there, you are not doing it right. There are always at least 8 people there...even in the dead of the morning.
This link:
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85873
Gives a step-by-step instruction
RedMussel
07-05-2008, 02:10 AM
When i get my new computer i think i might do this sense i hate most of the players/GM on the NA servers. Also i am disliking box. >.>
Treize K
07-05-2008, 02:51 AM
ops im there atm lol
Broodstar1337
07-06-2008, 12:40 PM
I still have my JP version of AOI. Might jump on it again but it's still a bit of a pain being the fish out of water again. I'd be lvl 1 so I can't play with any importers and I'm foreign so I can only really contribute to the party through how I play. My understanding of katakana is next to nonexistent now and trying to understand what items I'm getting would be a pain in it's own right.
Lyrise
07-06-2008, 01:01 PM
I still have my JP version of AOI. Might jump on it again but it's still a bit of a pain being the fish out of water again. I'd be lvl 1 so I can't play with any importers and I'm foreign so I can only really contribute to the party through how I play. My understanding of katakana is next to nonexistent now and trying to understand what items I'm getting would be a pain in it's own right.
There are tons of new players joining in. And a portion of the existing importers do not mind helping out. We've helped at least 4 players go from LV1, and I think the lowest level currently is now 76.
That said, jsut ask, and we can do the same for you.
autumn
07-06-2008, 01:03 PM
THere are a few of us who will be level 1 on Tuesday or Wednesday and at least one more over the next week or two who will be the same. For the katakana just get a print out and keep it next to you while you play and you'll start picking it up. I'd like some other low levels to play with seeing as I'm really excited about the game.
The_Brimada
07-06-2008, 01:22 PM
I should be on sometime tomorrow.
Ceresa
07-06-2008, 01:46 PM
Giving away a free Psychowand to new importers if they can meet the following criteria:
Must be lvl 150/20 MF by no later then Aug 15 (there's an event making it trivial, plus hardcore players bring a tear to my eye, the purity of the the true gamer and such)
Must have an account created no earlier then June 20.
Must send a ss of your account status page showing said account creation date plus an active recurring subscription cycle (no quitters are getting my shit!) Item will be delivered on Sept 1 after ST collects our money.
You will receive no PL from me as my power is not the type to help others train, but I don't care if you get it from other sources.
Instant disqualification for any of the following:
Setting up buffs on your MF palette (megistal is ok~)
Playing a non-newman.
Unlocking AT.
Playing FT or WT past 10.
Being horrible at the class.
To enter just find me and give me your card, now you don't have to feel bad about leaving your Psychowand behind on the NA servers!
Of course, I'm not made of money, Only the 1st and 3rd people to make it will receive one. 2nd gets a lovely 2/2 Pushan if it's still for sale, else you get nothing.
ashley50
07-06-2008, 02:39 PM
hehe that's a nice way to welcome new importers :)
Kizeragi
07-06-2008, 02:59 PM
I would try, but I'm not going to JP... well... yet...
The_Brimada
07-06-2008, 03:09 PM
Too bad I don't plan on using a newman or going MF :p
Aussei
07-06-2008, 03:47 PM
If I already have the JP PS2 version but my PS2 is not from Japan can I still connect? I haven't ever tried.
Also, everytime I try to create an account it says "Please use a Japanese-enable web browser"
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb60/Datei_Engel/que.jpg
Lyrise
07-06-2008, 04:47 PM
I have no clue about Opera's options, but in both IE and Firefox, there will be language options, for what your preferred language to display pages in are. Make sure Japanese is in that list; if not, add it.
Aussei
07-06-2008, 05:18 PM
It never done this to me before but it does it to me in both Opera and Internet Explorer. I made an account a long while ago so I know it works but for some reason now when I try to make an account it don't go through. I can log in and access the other places on the websites but not to make a new account....
Is it really just me?
Lyrise
07-06-2008, 05:42 PM
If you made one a LONG time ago, then the reason why its doing this now is because PSUJP switched account and billing servers. If your account isn't converted to ISAO from SegaLink, then that would be the reason why.
Aussei
07-06-2008, 08:08 PM
Ah w.e I'll find the problem out on my own you don't get it. lol
Itsuki
07-06-2008, 08:44 PM
You may need to have japanese language enabled on your browser. Even if you see japanese text visible, you may not have the language enabled. In IE you need to go to internet tools, langauges, and add japanese.
EDIT: This is the ONLY reason why you would get that message. Unless of course your internet explorer / opera is completely broken and needs to be reinstalled. So let me re-iterate. Even if you can see japanese text, you can write japanese text, and you are viewing it in a japanese encoding. YOU MAY NOT BE USING A JAPANESE ENABLED BROWSER.
Aussei
07-06-2008, 10:33 PM
No, actually, you're wrong. Lol. The real problem was that they are blocking certain IP addresses and ISPs. Unfortunately mine is one so I had to use a proxy.
I knew that it wasn't my language support. Lol.
Thanks anyways. e_e;
beatrixkiddo
07-06-2008, 10:58 PM
What ISP do you use?
Itsuki
07-06-2008, 11:16 PM
That doesn't make any sense at all. This isn't a 401, 403, or 404 or something. This is a "You aren't using japanese". I don't mean to be an ass or anything, but I'm going to have to call you out on this one. Because there has been no comments or notifications about IPs being blocked and you are facing an error with a known resolution.
I'm not saying that a proxy wouldn't fix it. I mean, perhaps you using a proxy makes it unable to tell that you're explorer isn't set to a japanese language, but it still should have to do with your language settings.
Internet Explorer -> http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f369/Akukame/LangIE.jpg
Firefox -> http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f369/Akukame/LangFF.jpg
autumn
07-07-2008, 12:22 AM
Curious: Does anyone know why this topic gets deleted off the official boards? I've seen it some up in 3 threads there and all 3 mysteriously vanished. Its been asked before but does anyone have an answer?
Lyrise
07-07-2008, 12:45 AM
Simply put, its Financial Responsibility and Corporate Interest. Every company will have some kind of policy about this, Sega of America is no different.
Leaving those topics there, on an official board no less, is akin to losing money, and losing control of the customers they're supposed to serve.
BIGGIEstyle
07-07-2008, 12:45 AM
Sega is afraid of the storm that's coming...
autumn
07-07-2008, 12:48 AM
I suppose...
It would make sense if people were discussing another game but to make such a fuss over switching to another version of the same game?
If they remove it though it probably violates something so I'll take this at face value.
Itsuki
07-07-2008, 01:15 AM
It probably also violates the EULA of the japanese version in some way to be playing it from another country. Sega has never done anything about it, but that isn't necessarily saying that they couldn't.
AxelgearVII
07-07-2008, 07:29 PM
Hmm....maybe Importer Meeting IV is in order?
autumn
07-07-2008, 07:37 PM
Importer Meeting?
VectormanX
07-07-2008, 07:55 PM
When and where? :o I'll be there. If i'm not at work, that is.
Chaegyung
07-07-2008, 08:00 PM
And Importer meeting would be nice~
I'm getting tired of doing solo runs. D:
Kamica
07-07-2008, 08:03 PM
An importer meeting should definitely be on Saturday if we have one. Axel would need to update the topic title accordingly.
AxelgearVII
07-07-2008, 08:51 PM
If you can all come to an agreement on when and where to have it I'll edit the topic title.
how about 5 minutes before maintenance?
this saturday is good for me
Treize K
07-08-2008, 04:16 AM
Well my copy wont be here till Wednesday so ill be lvl 1 :-?
Treize K
07-08-2008, 04:17 AM
illplay with you ^^
Broodstar1337
07-08-2008, 04:24 AM
how about 5 minutes before maintenance?
this saturday is good for me
When is maintenance anyway?
ashley50
07-08-2008, 06:43 AM
When is maintenance anyway?
Wednesdays...
Treize K
07-08-2008, 01:41 PM
I have one question if I have PSU U.S version installed in a PC, then install the JP version, will they work together or do u have to do some thing for both to work? Thxs
Itsuki
07-08-2008, 01:50 PM
The loader for the US version will break if you ever change any of the options on the JP version. There are a few ways to fix this. You can copy the loader from the JP version over to the US version. Or you can do a complicated mix of files changing to give the US version the JP version's options menu. Lastly, you can make a shortgun to US PSU that reads:
"<drive>:\<PSU Directory>\PsuIlluminus.exe -PSU" and it will load up PSU without doing the loader screen first.
ashley50
07-08-2008, 01:50 PM
install it another place...
that way you can have both copies US and JP
This is what i did at least...
JP Copy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ashley_riot/PSU01.jpg
NA/EU copy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ashley_riot/PSU02.jpg
Treize K
07-08-2008, 01:55 PM
: ( hard stuff
Treize K
07-08-2008, 02:08 PM
install it another place...
that way you can have both copies US and JP
This is what i did at least...
JP Copy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ashley_riot/PSU01.jpg
NA/EU copy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ashley_riot/PSU02.jpg
hmmm mine is vise versa I only have US/EU atm but my US version is save on SEGA folder http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c137/wendell_0195/Untitled-3.jpg
ashley50
07-08-2008, 02:15 PM
you can put the JP copy to another folder that you like.
Since I got the JP AoI first before US, that's why its on the "C:SEGA" files folder, or you can just do what I did :)
Treize K
07-08-2008, 02:20 PM
you can put the JP copy to another folder that you like.
Since I got the JP AoI first before US, that's why its on the "C:SEGA" files folder, or you can just do what I did :)ahhh i c, ima leave US version as is then i guess i just to remember to save JP on diffrent folder right.. ^^; ?
BIGGIEstyle
07-08-2008, 02:44 PM
Yeah LoL I accidentally overwrote my EU/US version, so I just made two SEGA folders SEGAJP and SEGAUS LoL
PS- on the side note less than an hour before my JP copy is here ^_^
Treize K
07-08-2008, 03:06 PM
Yeah LoL I accidentally overwrote my EU/US version, so I just made two SEGA folders SEGAJP and SEGAUS LoL
PS- on the side note less than an hour before my JP copy is here ^_^
>.> dam youuuu..... lol im talking in IRC atm with Autumn lol
Itsuki
07-08-2008, 03:20 PM
I think you all misunderstood me. Let me explain:
- Have each installed in a different directory
- Even if they are both installed in different directories, because they both use the same settings file, if you change any settings while on the JP version, then the US version will no longer open properly because it can't properly read the settings file.
- If you attempt to open "online.exe" which is what you'd normally start the game with, the screen opens, shows up for a split second, and disappears.
The easiest fix for this is to change your shortcut to the US version. (Using mine as examples)
Original shortcut:
"F:\Games\SEGAU\PHANTASY STAR UNIVERSE Illuminus\online.exe"
Changed shortcut:
"F:\Games\SEGAU\PHANTASY STAR UNIVERSE Illuminus\PsuIlluminus.exe" -PSU
This runs PsuIlluminus.exe directly, bypassing that "story mode, network mode, options, credits" loader screen and just immediately bringing up the game.
Now, the reason for this is because the settings in the settings file changes this:
LANGUAGE=J
So, its looking for japanese language files. Now, optionally, you can copy, I believe its online.exe, LangJ.bin, and maybe option.exe (forget if option.exe was required) from your japanese installation folder over to the US installation folder.
Treize K
07-08-2008, 03:26 PM
I think you all misunderstood me. Let me explain:
- Have each installed in a different directory
- Even if they are both installed in the same directory, because they both use the same settings file, if you change any settings while on the JP version, then the US version will no longer open properly because it can't properly read the settings file.
- If you attempt to open "online.exe" which is what you'd normally start the game with, the screen opens, shows up for a split second, and disappears.
The easiest fix for this is to change your shortcut to the US version. (Using mine as examples)
Original shortcut:
"F:GamesSEGAUPHANTASY STAR UNIVERSE Illuminusonline.exe"
Changed shortcut:
"F:GamesSEGAUPHANTASY STAR UNIVERSE IlluminusPsuIlluminus.exe" -PSU
This runs PsuIlluminus.exe directly, bypassing that "story mode, network mode, options, credits" loader screen and just immediately bringing up the game.O.o so whos right^^; u wrote more so maybe ur right lol :wacko:
Itsuki
07-08-2008, 03:55 PM
O.o so whos right^^; u wrote more so maybe ur right lol :wacko:
You quoted before I editted. ^^; Sorry sorry. I did mean to say that you still need to have them in different directories. I was just trying to explain why even in different directories it still doesn't work 100%.
Treize K
07-08-2008, 03:59 PM
You quoted before I editted. ^^; Sorry sorry. I did mean to say that you still need to have them in different directories. I was just trying to explain why even in different directories it still doesn't work 100%.ahhh ok well i have 3 computers so ill might just do 1 PC US, 1 PC JP
in tennis we call that game, set match ^^
Treize K
07-09-2008, 11:45 AM
freaking UPS taking to long to deliver >.>
norrisj15
10-18-2008, 06:57 PM
How is everyone doing with their imports. I read about a lot of people ordering copies, but then I heard nothing back about how it turned out. I'm considering making the jump myself, so more experience stories would be nice! :)
autumn
10-19-2008, 05:31 PM
Its very easy to do, and other importers are crazy nice and I didn't have much difficulty playing with the JP populace. Atm I don't have the $$ to cover to accounts though and the JP one is slightly more expensive due to international fees through my bank >.> so its currently not active.
RedRaz0r
12-02-2008, 08:13 PM
Alright I just imported the game, and I got a few questions.
Is everything going to be in Japanese text that I can't read at all, or is there some type of half-ass translation at least? I have a feeling theres not but its worth the asking lol
Also, how am I going to know which items are which, if there is no translation?
moomoopenguin
12-02-2008, 10:35 PM
http://www.amesani.org/psu/db/index.php
This site has the Japanese item names
http://nihongo.j-talk.com/parser/
This site to actual convert them so we can search for them correctly. Granted some of them are a little difficult sometimes ><
You now also have a group invite for the importers. Get to know some of the people, ask Vec to introduce you to some of them so you can get cards and such. I'll be on sometime tomorrow if you'd like to drop me a place and time to meet after about 5pm est =) And welcome to the Japanese version, you're gonna have a blast!
RedRaz0r
12-02-2008, 10:53 PM
Wow thanks a lot, I'm enjoying JP already =]
I just ordered it today from Play Asia so I won't have it for a while but I would loveve to meet up with some people. I am transferring from 360 so I will have to learn the controls for pc as well as becoming more familiar with the Japanese text and what not. Thanks again, I would love to meet up when I get on =]
moomoopenguin
12-02-2008, 11:33 PM
The controller lay out is pretty much the same, but you can't use your triggers. I have figured out how to use the back button for the mission stat thing (the one you use to get your mp). I'll take a pic of my layout a little later for you.
Inazuma
12-03-2008, 07:04 AM
http://xbcd360guide.50webs.com/index.html
check this site out. itll help you get your triggers to work.
RedRaz0r
12-03-2008, 11:04 AM
http://xbcd360guide.50webs.com/index.html
check this site out. itll help you get your triggers to work.
Sweet, I will look at that ^^
The controller lay out is pretty much the same, but you can't use your triggers. I have figured out how to use the back button for the mission stat thing (the one you use to get your mp). I'll take a pic of my layout a little later for you.
That would be cool, no rush though =]
moomoopenguin
12-03-2008, 01:14 PM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/moes_2006/untitled-3.jpg
I have no clue why it does the ?????? but that's my controller layout ^^
You might want to get your windows ime working right before hand. Here's a forum post about how to do it:
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153028&highlight=ime
RedRaz0r
12-03-2008, 01:31 PM
Sweet that should come in handy =] And I got all of that installed and ready yesterday, now I just have to wait
Magitek_X
12-03-2008, 04:24 PM
Question.
I tried to access the import community irc channel, but no one's there. Has it been dropped?
Alazar313
12-31-2008, 08:19 PM
Do I need a JP ps2 to play this if i want to play on ps2 or does my normal ps2 slim work?
Clint
12-31-2008, 08:31 PM
Do I need a JP ps2 to play this if i want to play on ps2 or does my normal ps2 slim work?
You need a Japanese PS2 to play PSU-AOTI Japanese Version along with the KEY.
ashley50
12-31-2008, 08:32 PM
Do I need a JP ps2 to play this if i want to play on ps2 or does my normal ps2 slim work?
You'll need a JP PS2 or a modded PS2 (if im correct) to play a JP game.
This is due to the region Lockouts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_region_code
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