How to play a class?

[Ken_Silver]

I've seen this before on the forums and I am curious as to finally see what people mean when they say the following:

To "Play a class" properly.

I mean to an extent, that is true. But at the same time, people pick a class to play as they like, right? When I first joined these forums and I heard that term, it made total sense. But now as I look at the forums, it seems like more people demand that in a party more than anything.

But just how do you play a class? I mean, you could even argue that the word "class" is not proper. It's your Guardian type, not necessary a class. Anyway... how do you play your class?

For example, I am a WT, so I think that in order to play a WT "correct" you would have to utilize your ranged, melee and technic skills and support your party whenever its applicable. Basically a "do it all" type.

So how would you define how to play a class; if someone asked you "Hello, how do you play a XY?"

And feel free to define how to play every class. I want to know. If I am playing a class wrong and pissing off people, let me know, so I can play that class right. (I have a WT. GT. AT and future FM.)

[S.T.K]

well theres really 2 ways to play race/class:
The Stereotype way, and then your own way

EX: Stereotype Fortetecher
Has to be a Newman, and has to heal and Buff whenever its needed,
attack in between healing/buffing

your own way: Fortetecher
Some may choose to use a Human, or maybe even Cast(dont think iv ever seen a B. FT)
u could use almost all wands instead of all Rods. Some may even choose to not buff at all


this game is all about personal choice and even if u decide to pick some weird race/class combo its not gonna hurt anyone.. and plus this game is easy so it really dont make a difference

i mean u can be any thing you want and still be really good at it!

[Chuck_Norris]

How to play Fortefighter: MAJARRA OOLLOL JABROGA DELAYED OOLLO MATEL LO MAJARRA MAJARRA MAJARRA MAJARA NANOBLAST/SUV/SUCKY CREA WEAPON OOLLOLOLLLOLOELLOHELL MAJARRA HEY BOSS JABROGA JBROGA BOSS DED OLOLLLLLLLOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!1on e!1

[Ken_Silver]

well theres really 2 ways to play race/class:
The Stereotype way, and then your own way

EX: Stereotype Fortetecher
Has to be a Newman, and has to heal and Buff whenever its needed,
attack in between healing/buffing

your own way: Fortetecher
Some may choose to use a Human, or maybe even Cast(dont think iv ever seen a B. FT)
u could use almost all wands instead of all Rods. Some may even choose to not buff at all


this game is all about personal choice and even if u decide to pick some weird race/class combo its not gonna hurt anyone.. and plus this game is easy so it really dont make a difference

i mean u can be any thing you want and still be really good at it!

I believe it, but some people have it as a pet peeve, when people play a class "wrong." So I am curious to see the right way. But you did tell me how a "FT" is supposed to be, so thank you for that. Don't get me wrong, I totally agree, but i want to see how people play a class wrong. I mean I picked the WT class for its weapon selection over anything else.

[S.T.K]

I believe it, but some people have it as a pet peeve, when people play a class "wrong." So I am curious to see the right way. But you did tell me how a "FT" is supposed to be, so thank you for that. Don't get me wrong, I totally agree, but i want to see how people play a class wrong. I mean I picked the WT class for its weapon selection over anything else.

oh well idka bout that.. lol
iv never played a FT.. that was just an example. Im a WT aswell

[gryphonvii]

Playing a class properly means playing the class to suit your playstyle.

How I play my techer by first casting buffs and gi resta then going on the attack while healing every once in a while. I play gunner by trying to cast as many SE's on as many enemies as possible. I play fighte by dealing damage, I don't use big knockback skills unless I am being gangbanged or face annoying enemies like go vahras.

For me that is what I consider playing a class properly. IN the end its a choice of personal style. You play how it suits you. Unfortunately most people think their way is superior. I may dissagree with the way you play your class, but I say you have the right to play your way.

[Alia]

This is how I play Fortefighter:

1) Make sure my pallette and armor is appropriate for the mission being run.
2) I Play a front-lines game; take hits for classes with less HP and Def, such as the Techers and some hybrids.
3) I make good use of healing items, as well as tact while in the fray; It's unrealistic to think that all techers will be able to heal you all the time. Also it's kind of lame/funny if you die repeatedly. Also I have Sols in my pallet for other players.
4) Deal the most damage I can. As a Fortefighter, it's expected, and I don't think it's a completely unrealistic expectation. However, as a human female, those in my party can't expect me to match a beast male. As long as that's understood, hey, great!

I think that's about it....That sound like "playing your class right?"

[Chuck_Norris]

EX: Stereotype Fortetecher
Has to be a Newman, prefrebly female, short, named after a fruit, and has to heal and Buff whenever its needed, have all atatck techs at 40, all support at 30, pallet of 10/10 psycho wands and 10/10 Tesba/Pushan combos. attack in between healing/buffing, makes sure to use lots of emotes, and be in a Voloyal suit.


Fix'd. :wacko:

[Xenoguner]

You wud not believe how many ppl get pissed off when a techer doenst play "right".

I was in a party with my friend who's an FT, and this random person (known TFF or something) joins up. We all hit the next block at the same time, and started to move foward, when TFF said to my friend, "Um, buffs? lmao". My friend told TFF that she's not a buffer type. All of a sudden, that TTF girl starts going off on her about how she's a noob and that she fails at being a FT; Basically badmouthing her and complaining to no end.

We just booted that girl during her rant, but wow, goes to show how ppl take this too seriously, eh? ^^;

[chaoskila]

to play anyclass.
do w.e the fuk you want.
who cares if someone else thinks you suck whoopdee doo someone hundreds of miles away thinks YOU sucks.

[Telina]

But just how do you play a class? I mean, you could even argue that the word "class" is not proper. It's your Guardian type, not necessary a class. Anyway... how do you play your class?



Should i be the first to say you can't (or shouldn't) bring philisophical thinking to internet message boards?

The game isn't as strict as FFXI (for example) where your really rooted in your single class untill you change it. So the only way i can answer a question like this is with another question, Do you feel like your playing your class properly?

Answer and you'll hopefully find what your looking for.

But how i play my class? FT i do support. Not support as you or others may think of it. I play a 'suplimentary' role. I supliment the damage, the attackers, and i make use of all my options given to me. well....all but cards i can't seem to find a place for them :p so sue me....

[Rust]

I usually play classes with a gamepad.

Huh ? :wacko:

[Judgement]

In my opinion, classes are just about weapon choice. You pick a class because of what weapons you have access to, that's why some people play a Fighgunner for the double saber simply because they like the weapon. Every class is useful in its own right. Find your niche, practice with your weapons and photon arts and find out what works for you. Play whatever class you want, you don't have to please anyone but yourself.

[Shigecki]

This is how I play Fortefighter:

2) I Play a front-lines game; take hits for classes with less HP and Def, such as the Techers and some hybrids.

The image of someone jumping in front of a bullet comes to mind when I read this. I'm just imagining someone jumping in front of techers and taking damage for them. A little to theatrical for me. It made me laugh.

Anyway...The way to play a class properly is to not half-ass it. If you're going to be a fortetecher, then work as a fortetecher, then move on to another class if you want to. I've seen too many people with low level pa's on high level characters. Just finish out the class. I don't feel this helps anybody.

As far as class goes, each race does have a certain class that it has a bonus in. This is what they mean when someone say to play the class properly. But to me, I just think it just means don't half-ass it.

[Darklighter]

LOL, I am notorious for jumping in front of techers or lower lv characters to take the damage.

Anyway, on topic I think the best way to play a class is however you want. I do not care how bad a person's set up is or if there race is all wrong for the job. I just play for fun and getting bent out of shape because people are not playing the best way possible does not sound like fun. Now people going out of there way to play badly on purpose, that is another story all together.

[mvffin]

Everyone has their opinion on how a class SHOULD be played, but that doesn't mean their right.

Personally, I don't understand why techers hate buffing. It takes a few seconds, lasts a few minutes, and you're increasing the output of up to 5 other people. I would never boot anyone just for being a noobtecher, but seriously people, get with the program.

Another thing is when FF/FI/PT/whatever knocks enemies across the room. Do they not realize other people are trying to hit them too? If your jabroga isnt OHKO'ing, STOP IT. Being a noob is one thing, but when you're disrupting the whole party, you're an idiot.

[Mman2000]

How I play my FF:

1. Carry weapons of the right elements for the mission.
2. Kill stuff
3. Nanoblast
4. Kill more stuff

Of course the usual shit about hitting the monsters before they hit techers comes in mind too.

How I play my FG:

Similar to FF, but drop the line about weapon elements, replace "kill" with "shoot" and "nanoblast" with "SUV", and add a line about making sure to hit flying enemies to bring them down.

How I play my FT:

Buff, attack, heal, repeat. Nuff said.

How I play my WT:

Ok no smartass sarcasm here. I carry mainly one hand strinking weapons and madoogs, and a few 2 hand striking weapons for backup. I use whatever seems right at the time. I DO NOT carry buffs at all on my WT. I don't need people telling me to buff when I'm running a saber through something or a slot in my palette dedicated to buffs that aren't that good so I just use megistar. Anyone who wants to complain about that in game can tell me how my boot tastes.

[Mwabwetumba]

AoI has, in a way, dumbed down the way I play ForteFighter. I no longer pick weapons and armour of corresponding colour with the mission that is being played. Even when using a Saber with Light as it's element in White Beast, it still deals thousands upon thousands of damage. And that was supposed to be the weak element for the job, eh? :p

So anyway, now I just roll with whatever I think looks good. And when versing enemies that are opposite elements to the armour I'm wearing, great, it just means I'll have to play more carefully and tactically.

So, my ForteFighting.

-Leap into the fray, try to keep the enemies on their backs.
-Carry Sol Atomizers.
-Heal self when it is appropriate to do so.
-And if everything else checks out, it's time to deal my Big Numbarz. :)

[Chuck_Norris]

Ok no smartass sarcasm here. I carry mainly one hand strinking weapons and madoogs,

You win 10 points, Sir. :wacko:

Anyway, in my opinion, you're doing it right if you're using resta and reverser as a techer, and Sol and Star Atomizers when you're something without access to magic.

[Stryker Diaz]

I'll tell u how to play every class right!

You..... dont worry *music plays* be happy :3

lol really its all up to choice, im an AT and i completley am F'd up, I have three sabers each with different Skills, no offensive Technics except Megid and Rammegid(instant kill and confusion always nice and all I need), and buffs.... and alot of resta xD thats it. Im not saying my way is right but ya its the way I play my character right :3

[Ken_Silver]

lol at posts. Maybe its me, but I see a paradox here. Most people say to play how you like for the most part (which I agree.)

But then you have some people who get mad, when you don't do things right. (huh?)

Maybe its one of those things that can't be answered in the way I imagined it would. I mean what people seem to want from a player is "commom sense." And there's no problem with wanting that in a party.

I dunno. But it doesn't bother me either. I play how I feel like playing and at the same time, I do what I can to support my party. I was just wondering if I could find what people expect in a party member and then to put it out there... so that you don't end up pissing someone off without knowing why.

But in the end, it's simple: Use common sense. I can go with that. Besides, I never got complaints about how I play in a party and I do randoms all the time.

Oh well, you know what they say, Curiousity Kills the Cat. :)

[darkante]

The thing is that i have got a feeling that the PT class for example is all about traps and using axe move Jabroga or spear move Majara..kinda like FF but with traps rofl.

The thing is when i try out PT class, i don´t use axes and i don´t use majara with my spear if it´s not an very hard mission. Sword is much more fun.
And.. i prefer to do things my way and help out with my traps when needed, and that works almost always.
I´m not all about numbers, and if i were i would go FF.
Fun is what i pay for, not work. :P

[BIGGIEstyle]

BIGGIE's Personal Line of THinking Toward Classes

Fortefighter: Use your weapons pallet to it's fullest extent. You can have a bunch of really nice combos of weapons even though most "noobs" jsut go straight for Majarra and Jabroga. While those are both good skills, they're a techer/gunner's nightmare to try and hit something.

Make sure you're being the most useful you can be as a fighter while not hampering the usefulness of the party.

Fighgunner: The whole thing is italicized because you can do both! Make use of your awesome equip spread and don't be the tornado-spamming retard of the party. While Tornado dance is a nice skill and has it's uses there are better skills to use when in a party/ fighting mobs rather than a large multi-part enemy. Again: Make sure you're being the most useful you can be as a fighter while not hampering the usefulness of the party.

Acrofighter: SAme as #1 and #2

Fortegunner: You are the ultimate in crowd control. The only thing that can argue you as a crowd control specialist is a Jabroga spamming, Majarra-riding retard with little regard to the party. FG has a great spread of High element, High SE, High Dmg nasty at their hands if used well.

You should be dealing Dmg proportional to the FF and FT of the group. (My opinion of Dmg dealers FF, FG, FT sorry everyone else...)

You are a supportive damage dealer.

Guntecher: Italicized because there are many ways to go with this one. Cast (or even Beast) GTs do great damage with their guns at the loss of dmg with their techs. If you are one of these power yourself up and go to town with your great gun selection.

As a Human or Newman you're more of a hybrid Techslinger. Your techs come out pretty decent and your damage doesn't suffer to poorly on your bullets, making you the ultimate in ranged offense.

Fortetecher: One word. BOOM. That's all you should be expected to do. High end FTs are amazing damage to groups of enemies and even better dmg vs. 1 target. If Techs hit multiple body segments this would outdamage any other class hands down.

You're the big ugly Tech damage. While your buffs would be great, your damage is good enough. Just because you're a techer doesn't mean you're a NURSE. Blow it all up and let the Holy Light sort it out.

Acrotecher: Italicized because it's Acro TECHER not Acrobuffer. Lv40 support is nice, but show me a character who does NOTHING but support. As an acrotecher your speed with techs and weapons (yes I said it. weapons!) make you a fast lethal barrage of damage.

I agree that if you got such great buffs then use them, but you're not a nurse. Do your own thing.

Wartecher: A class I've never played and wanted to. A mediocre-looking class with a wonderful weapon spread. once this class hits Lv30 support there's nothing this class can't do well. If you don't use it ALL, then pick another class really cause you're wasting talent.

Edited: Protranser: Wow, how can I forget this one. this is simple. See FF and FG. Your ATP and ATA may be gimp compared to them but you're their little cousin. And with those homemade explosives you make in the backyard you certainly hold your own as well.

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All "Fighter" Classes: If you melee at all you are a "fighter" class. I can't say it enough. QUIT THROWING ENEMIES AROUND. IF YOU KEEP DOING IT THEN THERE'S NO WONDER WHY THE TECHER DOESN'T HEAL OR BUFF YOU!

All "Gunner" Classes: If you use guns at all you are a "Gunner" class. Make use of your weapons. Nothing urks me more than a gunner standing there waiting for his weapons to charge because he/she doesn't have a striking weapon and is out of charges.

All "Techer" Classes: If you use techniques you are a "Techer" class. (Even you WT). It's not your job to heal/buff others, but it is nice. If you're hurt and can stand to do so without dying, walk over to the group before you heal. If you buff yourself and you see someone else needs it, go buff them as well (if they don't mind it.) If you see someone else buffing the party, check their buff levels before you buff over them, and ask them if they mind. It's only common courtesy.

All Classes: Everyone, even Hunter/Ranger/Force. YOU HAVE ITEMS. Just because you aren't a techer it doesn't mean you can't heal/remedy/buff yourself. It also doesn't mean you can't Heal/remedy the party as well!

USE YOUR ITEMS FIRST. DON'T EXPECT THE TECHER TO DO IT.
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This is all my line of thinking. Criticize me if you like, but my ideals are my own and are to be taken with a grain of salt :P

to Op: Hope this is helpful for you Ken. I've seen you party with Autumn before and I think you do great.

[Ail]

i'm mostly with BIGGIE's line of thinking

talking about myself.. i love to play fighgunner. i started to play it because of the initial S rank selection, and always used only the S rank weps/skills of my job. just because.. i like it.. i like the style of the weps and i like to play with this style, even if some A rank could be powerful. yeah.. majarra.. (oh well days ago i maxed majarra too because i had no more useful skill to level up >_>)

this was the melee part.. but since i'm fighGUNNER i also love my xbow and i can't immagine to play a guardian type without it. also twin handguns are essential for flying enemies and bosses. machinegun are cool. i use them too but yeah, i prefer xbows.

so.. i use the S melee weapons (and i have all skill for them to 40.. yeah.. before the pa rebalance..) because like i said, i like the style of em and to play with my style (like i use yellow badge because i like to never miss and block, but also because the color fit my char xD )

after all if i wanted to be uber powerful and use uber devastating and easy to use majarra and jarboga.. i may have made a fortefighter.. i played it.. but even if it can solo faster, i find it so boring and i prefer go with something else..


last thing. like biggie said, use your items. easiest way to learn how to survive (but also keep the party/npc alive) is play solo in some dificult area. after some runs.. you will never find the need of a healer again xD

[Llord Bacchus]

to play a class right is to do whatever you want with it - it is a game and meant to be fun

it is not designed for some elitist to pass judgement on - if that is what they want you to do, tell them to go change their class and do it themselves

yes, you wanna help youir party, but i'm a firm believer that "you cannot please all the people all the time so you might as well please yourself"

[Cracka_J]

I only have 1 general rule for all guardian types:

Take advantage and abuse everything at your disposal, and learn how/when/where to use it all properly.

You'll be fine if you follow that guideline.

Also, while something like a Cast FT will never be able to reach max statistic potential, it doesn't mean the player behind the wheel isn't proficient. There is a point though (that I also arrived at playing Human FT), that you WILL WANT those stat boosts. Once AOI came around, I just transfered my techs off my former main to my newman ho. I enjoyed all the boosts so much, she's my absolute favorite character to play on now.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is a good player can play any race/type combo, and be effective. However if they are playing a mix, they may get sick of the stat disadvantages eventually, and go pure.

[desturel]

Some may choose to use a Human, or maybe even Cast(dont think iv ever seen a B. FT)


One of the first people I meet on the game was a Beast FT (who ran with a cast FT). He stayed a Beast FT until AotI came out, then he switched to Wartecher.

[JAFO22000]

While there isn't one correct way to play a class, each class does offer a strength that can help a party out. I feel that if you are a class that can tech, you should buff and heal the party as needed. This is something that you can bring to the party to help them out. If you are a gunner class, help the party out with status effects to the best of your ability.

What I can't stand are people who refuse to use weapons/skills that their class can use. For example, FTs who don't heal/buff; you don't have to be a heal-bot, but you should use this skill to your advantage. Also, Fighgunners who don't use the "gunner" part of their name. I understand you like double sabers, but pull out a ranged weapon against things that are melee resitant.

Is it too much to ask a class to help out as much as they possilby can?

[panzer_unit]

Is it too much to ask a class to help out as much as they possilby can?

lol yes, if it conflicts with someone's "style"... it's more important to play at your own pace in a way you enjoy than playing to the strengths of the guardian type you've picked for your character.

Maybe their style is to Dus Majarra everything because there's some witch-girl or genie-dude concept going on. Even as a Fortetecher. That's like prime magician stuff right? After all Harry Potter flies around on a broom instead of throwing fireballs at everybody. He knows Diga though I'm pretty sure.

Or you know, maybe your character was a boy adopted by a convent of nuns. He's full of holy light so you use Regrant as your main attack as an acrotecher. That's some cool style right there. You could easily have a dozen awesome quotes to use all the time with it. "Come back here, I'm not done with you yet!!" see?

[JAFO22000]

lol yes, if it conflicts with someone's "style"... it's more important to play at your own pace in a way you enjoy than putting playing to the strengths of the type you've picked for your character.

Maybe their style is to Dus Majarra everything because there's some witch-girl or genie-dude concept going on. Even as a Fortetecher. That's like prime magician stuff right? After all Harry Potter flies around on a broom instead of throwing fireballs at everybody. He knows Diga though I'm pretty sure.

Or you know, maybe your character was a boy adopted by a convent of nuns. He's full of holy light so you use Regrant as your main attack as an acrotecher. That's some cool style right there. You could easily have a dozen awesome quotes to use all the time with it. "Come back here, I'm not done with you yet!!" see?

LOL! I'm going to start a character that is a member of PETA. He joins a party with no weapons in the pallette and preaches hate to everyone who slays an Olgohmon or picks up Ollaka Meat. One of my sayings will be "God INTENDED these creatures to be mad!!" and "YOU are the ones who are coming into THEIR territory!!! Let them be!!!"

[panzer_unit]

LOL! I'm going to start a character that is a member of PETA. He joins a party with no weapons in the pallette and preaches hate to everyone who slays an Olgohmon or picks up Ollaka Meat. One of my sayings will be "God INTENDED these creatures to be mad!!" and "YOU are the ones who are coming into THEIR territory!!! Let them be!!!"

I'VE BEEN DOING STUPID STUFF LIKE THAT SINCE V1 :D

Sometimes I pretend my character's back-story is that he was found as an orphan and raised by friendly Vahras/Golmoro/Gohmon/Vanda/Deljabans ... I refuse to fight any of them myself and plead for their lives with my teammates. Anything else though I'll kick it's butt and collect all the useless remains (even if it's set to order or random) to feed my adoptive family and prove who's the dominant predator around these parts.

EDIT: For class specific advice, I'm a believer that Poison Trap G is an important historical part of the Fighgunner arsenal. Back in v1 they were crucial to keeping gunners from outdamaging fighting classes on a party and it seemed like all the FI's were spamming them especially in Mad Beasts S2... you'd have Protransers and Fortegunners fully loaded with Burn and Virus but the first character on the scene was always a FI with good 'ol poison.

[Kylie]

I play as I want, and I extend the same courtesy to people around me. I mean, I want them to be an asset to the team and not get in the way, but I'm not going to jump on every little thing and tell them they have to do things my way. In fact, I rarely notice what people around me are doing.

[Darius_Drake]

I say play the way you want. The only thing I knew people got mad at is when people ignore the very strength of their class. In most cases it still doesn't matter, but in special events somebody might pick you because they needed somebody of your class. I guess an example of this is picking up an acrotecher because you feel you wanted somebody in the party to buff and then finding out the acrotecher you picked up doesn't even have a single buff on them. Better yet picking up a protranser because it would be so much easier to do the mission when somebody is laying traps and the protranser doesn't like using traps and doesn't carry or use them. It seems to be more of a cry not to use your class wrong. Still, I say play like you want to. Not everybody gets into that issue.

[darkante]

I say play the way you want. The only thing I knew people got mad at is when people ignore the very strength of their class. In most cases it still doesn't matter, but in special events somebody might pick you because they needed somebody of your class. I guess an example of this is picking up an acrotecher because you feel you wanted somebody in the party to buff and then finding out the acrotecher you picked up doesn't even have a single buff on them. Better yet picking up a protranser because it would be so much easier to do the mission when somebody is laying traps and the protranser doesn't like using traps and doesn't carry or use them. It seems to be more of a cry not to use your class wrong. Still, I say play like you want to. Not everybody gets into that issue.
If you see me as a PT and i´m not using traps to help when asked in dangerous situation..then my brain must have exploded. XD

[Rust]

Well, the only reason why I play my beast as a Wartecher is for the Resta / Retier whenever I want, costs less than mates. I otherwise only use melee weapons (with a gun when needed) and I don't give a crap for buffs, my PM does that for me.
I'll eventually level up FT and MF on her when I have capped WT, since she's my only character with a BG matching the techer types. :wacko:

[Sekani]

In most cases when people say play your class right, they mean one of three things:

1) Fighgunner, stop using Tornado Dance!
2) Acrotecher, stop using that whip!
3) Hey, you have techs, heal and buff me NOW!

If you don't fall into any of these categories there's a good chance you'll NEVER have to worry about playing your class right.

[Shigecki]

How is using a whip playing the class wrong?

[Mman2000]

How is using a whip playing the class wrong?

Because a techer of any kind is obviously supposed to be used for heals and buffs, didn't you get the memo?

I got it and promptly tore it up after reading it.

[autumn]

I don't care what someone is doing providing they aren't being inconsiderate (that includes knockback spamming fighters, or techers who keep getting me in the midst of their rafoie or ramegid so I lag and can't move) Not to say don't use the PAs at your disposal, just use them wisely. Be polite too, and don't cuss people because they aren't doing what you want. Most of us are people, not PMs or NPCs with superior (sometimes) AI. So long as you are doing something reasonably useful and being courteous I think you're playing your type ok.