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Nitro Vordex
Aug 23, 2008, 05:47 PM
TEH BESTEST WEAPON EVAR!!1!11oneoneeleventy

/spam

Dhylec
Aug 23, 2008, 06:03 PM
liez ;o
my 50 hit waz betta!

Tact
Aug 23, 2008, 06:09 PM
No way, my Cane with -5% Hit was the best. I thumped Boomas over the head with it many a time. :wacko:

Also, if it only has 10% Hit, you tekked it incorrectly.

Boogie Troll
Aug 23, 2008, 06:11 PM
If it's as bad assed as an L&K it won't matter if it's a mistekk.

Nitro Vordex
Aug 23, 2008, 06:13 PM
^This man knows what's what.

Also, I just felt happy using a mechgun in Ulty and actually HITTING ENEMIES.

:3

Tact
Aug 23, 2008, 06:15 PM
What are you, a Force? :wacko:

I'm only guessing based on your avatar, but still...a Ranger would never have that kind of trouble.

Leviathan
Aug 23, 2008, 06:21 PM
I have those. :wacko:

You're in ultimate?

Boogie Troll
Aug 23, 2008, 06:22 PM
Rangers are for little girls, running around with their Frozen Shooter/Spread Needle, staying back and not getting hit. I want to run up to an enemy. I want to see his face as I crush his bones. I WANT TO DRINK HIS BLOOD AND THE BLOOD OF HIS BABIES!

Tact
Aug 23, 2008, 06:25 PM
Rangers are for little girls, running around with their Frozen Shooter/Spread Needle, staying back and not getting hit. I want to run up to an enemy. I want to see his face as I crush his bones. I WANT TO DRINK HIS BLOOD AND THE BLOOD OF HIS BABIES!

First of all, it's a good thing I don't have to take offense to being called a girl.

Secondly, too bad the enemies' facial expressions never change. :wacko:

Nitro Vordex
Aug 23, 2008, 06:28 PM
BABIES!

And no Tact, I'm using a Hunter. >_> I find Rangers boring.

Weeaboolits
Aug 23, 2008, 06:32 PM
lrn2tek

also RAcaseal is the best ranger, go go.

Leviathan
Aug 23, 2008, 06:36 PM
Wait are those my L&K's?

Boogie Troll
Aug 23, 2008, 06:36 PM
I think more properly it should be lrn2buy50hitcharges.

Nitro Vordex
Aug 23, 2008, 06:37 PM
You watch your mouth.

Beserk+Resta FTW.

Tact
Aug 23, 2008, 06:39 PM
I'm a wuss and I wasn't willing to risk my HP, so I took Spirit for my S-Rank Twin and I used a Geist Laser. It worked fairly well on the one fight where I would actually use it. (That would be Epsilon in the Tower quests.)

Weeaboolits
Aug 23, 2008, 06:44 PM
I only use bererk on enemies that won't hit me during my attack, mostly the dragon.

Tact
Aug 23, 2008, 07:02 PM
Haha, the dragon is a joke. :wacko:

If Tycho hadn't already done it, I would try to beat the Dragon at level 1.

SStrikerR
Aug 23, 2008, 08:25 PM
I prefer spirit on my nubmar, my fluids is endless. ;o

Weeaboolits
Aug 23, 2008, 08:30 PM
Haha, the dragon is a joke. :wacko:

If Tycho hadn't already done it, I would try to beat the Dragon at level 1.That's why I use [berserk, it makes it go away even faster. :wacko:

Tact
Aug 23, 2008, 08:30 PM
I actually use my Geist Laser for TP regeneration, unless I'm really in a pinch. :wacko:

Even if I have no TP left, I'll probably use it over a Difuid. I'm that opposed to using items in role-playing games.

Weeaboolits
Aug 23, 2008, 08:39 PM
As I said before my RA is caseal, so no TP for me. :[

I use a handful of ranged and melee weapons from pre-ultimate.

FOmarl is fun, but I miss being able to see traps and afk heal.

Being able to buff more than twice per run is nice though.

Tact
Aug 23, 2008, 09:04 PM
I've actually memorized where all of the traps are in the Caves. :wacko:

I would walk into a room and say "Okay, this is the one with the traps laid out like this." And then I would just run around and blow all of the traps up.

Weeaboolits
Aug 23, 2008, 09:08 PM
I'm not so good at memorization, especially with multiple configurations sand some of the longer areas, I'd rather just be able to see them.

I hate it most in ruins since I have to contend with both ceiling traps and paralyze traps. :[

Nitro Vordex
Aug 23, 2008, 09:12 PM
Sometimes it's obvious if there's traps in a room. >_>

Weeaboolits
Aug 23, 2008, 09:18 PM
And sometimes it's not obvious WHERE in the room. >_>

Or you get those asshole traps that trigger immediately.

Sayara
Aug 23, 2008, 09:24 PM
My Beserk arm finally got me killed by an enemy, it was sorta frustrating really haha

SStrikerR
Aug 23, 2008, 09:26 PM
If by arm you mean the weapon "arms", then gee, fighting with a shot at close range?

MetaZedlen
Aug 23, 2008, 11:20 PM
BABIES!

And no Tact, I'm using a Hunter. >_> I find Rangers boring.

400 BABIES!!!!!!!

You knew it wuz coming...

Sayara
Aug 23, 2008, 11:38 PM
Just a stroke of surprise really, i used it to mass kill like a zillion claws then a dimenian snuck up and pimped me.

Boogie Troll
Aug 23, 2008, 11:57 PM
I memorized where traps were for the most part. I did, however, memorize all of the big traps. And I hit them. When I get to higher levels I need all of the Photon Blast I can get, and traps were a great way.

I don't like Berserk because I like having HP. With my luck, enemies would pop up behind me and hit me. Or I'd miss, and they'd hit in the bit of freedom they have.

Mixfortune
Aug 24, 2008, 04:32 AM
I remember when percents were a damage multiplier... good times.
Ult DCv2 with a high percent weapon, one second you're struggling to hit for 100, the next you're breaking the DEF barrier and dishing out 800+ crits. Makes me want to break out the DC again, if I could find the game.

Adriano
Aug 24, 2008, 05:42 AM
Just a stroke of surprise really, i used it to mass kill like a zillion claws then a dimenian snuck up and pimped me.

omg claws are the worst thing ever, I hate that they have like the tiniest hp, but critical like a mother$%^^%&$%^$^. They need to die.
And wtf Bulclaws are a joke D= 5 bulclaws should turn into a claw if you ask me xD

Sayara
Aug 24, 2008, 08:33 AM
Apperently bulks (the naked Buclaw after droping its Claws) can do a 1hp instant hit at some point,

Though ive yet to see it.

Weeaboolits
Aug 24, 2008, 10:26 AM
I've never had a bulclaw survive long enough to split or attack.

Boogie Troll
Aug 24, 2008, 10:46 AM
I have. When they grab me to split into Claws, I can't always make it out. All of the Claws surround me and then the Bulk makes it's way around to me and spits. Annoying. Even more annoying is that Bulclaws never drop their damn rares.

Tact
Aug 24, 2008, 10:50 AM
Apperently bulks (the naked Buclaw after droping its Claws) can do a 1hp instant hit at some point,

Though ive yet to see it.

Well, you can always go off into the Ruins and test it out. :wacko:

Who says you have to save afterwards?

TalHex
Aug 24, 2008, 10:59 AM
the autosave feature in blue burst?

Tact
Aug 24, 2008, 11:17 AM
I was talking about Phantasy Star Online for the Gamecube. :disapprove:

I guessed that Sayara/Tingle would still have characters on that version.

Sayara
Aug 24, 2008, 11:21 AM
I have both Tingle and Usada in GC and BB now. >_>

Tact
Aug 24, 2008, 11:24 AM
Ha, I knew it. :wacko:

Take your pick and go test it out. Be sure to let us know what happens.

astuarlen
Aug 24, 2008, 11:31 AM
This thread is (pick one)
A) an Abomination
B) an Anachronism
C) Awesome

Adriano
Aug 24, 2008, 11:35 AM
CCCCCC

Sayara
Aug 24, 2008, 11:39 AM
Yeah maybe next week when i dont have work for abillion hours :disapprove:

Boogie Troll
Aug 24, 2008, 11:45 AM
Wait, was the title of this thread always -10 hit?

Nitro Vordex
Aug 24, 2008, 12:09 PM
No. More modhax.

Boogie Troll
Aug 24, 2008, 12:22 PM
Curses.

Tact
Aug 24, 2008, 01:35 PM
I don't think it's even possible for a weapon to have any percentages that low.

I mean, sure, you could probably hack it to have abnormally low percentages. But, why would you?

Boogie Troll
Aug 24, 2008, 01:39 PM
-10? Impossible. -5? Possible, but worthless. As for hacks, I've never actually seen it. Actually, I mainly see hacked 300% weapons, where all the percents are stacked in one area, causing assloads of damage.

Tact
Aug 24, 2008, 01:44 PM
-10? Impossible. -5? Possible, but worthless. As for hacks, I've never actually seen it. Actually, I mainly see hacked 300% weapons, where all the percents are stacked in one area, causing assloads of damage.

I know -5% is possible, but none of my weapons have that because I spent thousands of Meseta on tekking it to raise the percentages. :wacko:

TalHex
Aug 24, 2008, 02:58 PM
-10% is possible, i've gotten it before

Boogie Troll
Aug 24, 2008, 03:01 PM
You cannot magically add percents to a weapon. If it is found with zero in a category, it can only have zero. You can find stuff with 5% in a category and when you take it to get identified, the Tekker can only add 5 or 10 percent, and he can subtract them too. 5-10=-5. You lie. And yo breath stank.

TalHex
Aug 24, 2008, 03:03 PM
i think there is an item that adds stats

Boogie Troll
Aug 24, 2008, 03:19 PM
Once you do a certain side quest in one of the Towers, Photon Drops/Spheres add percents. The other Tower's side quest allows you to add special abilities to S Ranks. They ADD. Not subtract. Do not make me repeat myself.

TalHex
Aug 24, 2008, 03:23 PM
yes but you can find weapons with negative stats (i have several on GC) i never said they subtract

Lance813
Aug 24, 2008, 05:14 PM
I hayte -10%.

I've had it on a last survivor. Good thing they're shitty.

Nitro Vordex
Aug 24, 2008, 06:29 PM
I found a -10% one time. >_>

Tact
Aug 24, 2008, 06:55 PM
If I ever find a -10% on anything, I'm going to have the Tekker reduce it to -20% just so I can have a really rare bad weapon. :wacko:

Randomness
Aug 24, 2008, 06:56 PM
If I ever find a -10% on anything, I'm going to have the Tekker reduce it to -20% just so I can have a really rare bad weapon. :wacko:

...

Gib 0/0/-20/-20/-20 Spread needle!

Tact
Aug 24, 2008, 07:00 PM
It would be really awesome to have a rare weapon that bad. Well, that is, except for the fact that it is actually that bad. :disapprove:

TalHex
Aug 24, 2008, 07:07 PM
i've seen some hacked weapons before with -100% stats XD

Randomness
Aug 24, 2008, 07:25 PM
How about a 999/999/999/999/-999 Tsukimiri or something?

astuarlen
Aug 24, 2008, 08:01 PM
Once you do a certain side quest in one of the Towers, Photon Drops/Spheres add percents. The other Tower's side quest allows you to add special abilities to S Ranks. They ADD. Not subtract. Do not make me repeat myself.

*rewinds Boogie PaTroll*
Could you repeat that? I missed it the first time.

Tact
Aug 24, 2008, 08:03 PM
We should make that paragraph into a broken record. :wacko:

It would make him repeat himself without him having to repeat himself.

astuarlen
Aug 24, 2008, 08:10 PM
Now playing on continuous loop: Mr. Boogie Troll.

Weeaboolits
Aug 24, 2008, 08:24 PM
How about a 999/999/999/999/-999 Tsukimiri or something?Get out.


If I ever find a -10% on anything, I'm going to have the Tekker reduce it to -20% just so I can have a really rare bad weapon. :wacko:
play sum ver2, I saw weapons at like -30 all the time. :disapprove:

Tact
Aug 24, 2008, 08:33 PM
play sum ver2, I saw weapons at like -30 all the time. :disapprove:

Yeah, I've heard tales of truly outrageous percentages on Version 2 weapons. However, I've never played it myself.

Weeaboolits
Aug 25, 2008, 02:26 AM
Version 2 negative %s are just as, if not more common than positive ones.

Tact
Aug 25, 2008, 05:08 AM
Ooh, man, that has to be bad. Imagine finding that weapon you wanted and then figuring out it had negative percentages. :disapprove:

Mixfortune
Aug 25, 2008, 06:32 AM
DC ranges were -60% to 60% (either after tekking, or tekking didn't change it, I don't remember, I just remember 60% was the maximum) and could not be raised after the fact.

However 60% back then did much more than even 100% in the GC version and later. The common day percents would only influence the ATP bonus of the weapon. So, say... a mechgun that adds 25ATP would instead add 50ATP at 100%. It only really helps much for larger damage output weapons, or when combined with Berserk etc.

The old damage calculation method (DC) would have the percentages influence the end result damage directly. So, if you did 200 damage per hit with mechguns, with 50% you'd now do roughly 300 damage. This allowed for quick mop ups in VHard down the road... for example I had a 60% machine Spirit Gungnir that would crit for 1600+ in Mines... then proceeded to do 8 damage in Ultimate. :disapprove:

HAYABUSA-FMW-
Aug 25, 2008, 06:32 AM
BABIES!

I find Rangers boring.
Oh no, you did not just desecrate the name of the l337 RAmar Ninjas!

Also old threads looking into, Nidramag knew what a WMD was and was outRAGED about it after a youtube about some American stupids are on the street interviewed, triangle has 4 sides answers, etc.

And you still don't cuBan.

So who's the real baby... baby? "ellipsis baby" on the comeback trail? One can try.