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jimmer411
01-31-2003, 03:01 AM
Well we all know that when you get corrupted you lose all your chars. and well im not sure if it affects other saves on the mem card, pso is the only thing that occupies this one. but what im wondering abotu and am worried about is what if on xbox your HDD gets corrupted? id hate to lose 12 chars, but further moreid hope and pray i wouldnt lose all the saves for my other 25 games. just slap me if im too worried.

Celestial
01-31-2003, 03:17 AM
your too worried...

nothing happends to other saves on your same memory card...

CajunSamurai
01-31-2003, 03:24 AM
This is just theoretical, and I really don't know too much about the technical crap, but... To my understanding, data on GCN memory cards are saved to a chip, right? It's been my experience that data saved to RAM ships can easily be wiped if you're not careful.

Xbox data is, of course, saved to a physical hard disk, which wouldn't be susceptible to corruptions very easily at all. At least not the entire hard disk, I'm pretty sure about that.

Someone please back me up on this if I'm anywhere near correct. o_O

VulpesMundi
01-31-2003, 03:40 AM
The main reason data gets corrupted is simply because the file in question is incomplete. A perfect example of this is with my one and only corrupted character back on DC ver.1. I was playing online and just burst down to Ragol and the auto-save engaged as I came out of the teleportal. In the middle of the auto-save my DC magically reset. Since the save was incomplete, so was the file. Ergo the data was incomplete, the file corrupt, and the character lost. With the Gamecube version this goes one step further. There's up to four characters saved on one file (seven if you count the three temporary slots). If the data gets corrupted for one of these characters, the entire file will be lost along with all those characters. I don't know how the X-Box save files work, but being on a hard drive doesn't save the files from corruption. It'd be nice if the game was programmed to back up each character on the hard drive each time it's successfully saved. But knowing Sega and Sonic Team they'd either not think of something so simple or screw it up so royally that everyone and their grandmother could duplicate items to their heart's content. To coin the phrase "You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't" would be a phenominal understatement in this case.

Zolpner
01-31-2003, 03:49 AM
erm i heard (somewhere i dont know where) that you cant delete xbox save files if this is true and you get fsod'd then wouldnet you be stuck with you r 12 corrupted characters and no be able to create more because of the 12 character limit?

although I may be wrong...

_Zero_
01-31-2003, 08:32 AM
That's what scares me about the XBOX is the hard drive. (no offense to XBOX'ers) All hard drives eventually do crash. Sometimes is takes a while but eventually they will crash.

RagMasterRappy
01-31-2003, 08:39 AM
On 2003-01-31 01:24, CajunSamurai wrote:
This is just theoretical, and I really don't know too much about the technical crap, but... To my understanding, data on GCN memory cards are saved to a chip, right? It's been my experience that data saved to RAM ships can easily be wiped if you're not careful.

All memory cards use a flash ROM. If saving is interrupted when the system is accessing it, the only thing that happens is the region of the ROM that was most recently written to will more than likely have a few scrambeled bytes, but it does nothing to everything else.

Xbox data is, of course, saved to a physical hard disk, which wouldn't be susceptible to corruptions very easily at all. At least not the entire hard disk, I'm pretty sure about that.

Memory cards are generally a little bit more durable than hard disks. Hard disks have moving parts which makes them more susceptible to physical damage and data corruption.

Omikron
01-31-2003, 03:00 PM
On 2003-01-31 01:49, Zolpner wrote:
erm i heard (somewhere i dont know where) that you cant delete xbox save files

Of course you can delete Xbox save files, you just turn on the xbox without putting a disk and you can manage memory