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Para
01-31-2003, 04:54 PM
i just noticed my hunewearl's ATA is in gold font at lvl 70 so im guessing it is maxed. when i lvled up i was supposed to gain +1 ATA but it didnt happen... im only maxed if i have my mag equipped though...

so maybe if you have a stat maxed because of your mag... its better to take it off before you are about to level?

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Look at this...
http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzEwNDQzMzUzNzkvMS80MDE4LzE1NS8zMi9KSkk1aEFBcX BmbXVCLXpGOHZ5SVFn/c09a57d59cb1f410fc840b4398e0753b/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUg1vTAhnMD5nGYvhWSKSRXjdmYY3si7jyy5D vPuW8PWXdUy86RHvLeUjgtDqvESuas$/jpg.jpg
This is me before i lvl with units on that increase my ATA. i dont have my mag equipped in this..

http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzEwNDQzMjAwNDEvMS80MDE4LzE1NS8zMi9kOGg0azFLU1 ljMUNzZVFBYXYwS3ln/a057ba07d7dd73738763bc723feb684c/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUg1vTAhnMD5nGYvhWSKSRXjX5jTTco1KKfoV lEkSzOGc0IpiF2!TzI022SdCELYQlg$/jpg.jpg
this is me with my mag addin dex/ata along with the units to increase my ATA to max.

http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzEwNDQzMjAwNDYvMS80MDE4LzE1NS8zMi8zV3JyMERNU1 QxYkZzb3pVNUx4MnB3/7c6d43beefc993c7f7d46475e86b2317/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUg1vTAhnMD5nGYvhWSKSRXjvvr9*adxe*IH9 a0zC2acg8t*8QOhJvYkV9VWEv142Hs$/jpg.jpg
This is me after i just lvled up with my mag on me but i unequipped it after i lvled..... LOOK AT MY ATA... it decreased!!!

http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzEwNDQzMjAwNDYvMS80MDE4LzE1NS8zMi9sOEtsTjdhQU dqRzFvT0pIbzYzN25B/1ae840704a130c86ab1e0387a032097c/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUg1vTAhnMD5nGYvhWSKSRXj4ALUVZ7oHSmh0 iSKdzrUoxEtgv2z1LDdD13OFzvPoO8$/jpg.jpg
This is me after i lvl without the mag being equipped at all but with units... notice that my ATA didnt change at all... ;_;

http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzEwNDQzMjAwNDYvMS80MDE4LzE1NS8zMi94NnFkWHk2d1 84X1U3dWRPRXVmWFJB/9ad9d6384a080e14137644071efa29b1/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUg1vTAhnMD5nGYvhWSKSRXjTHoXreB17tzNd IrQy!a94uGTljtgrRp9me*q0PT6miY$/jpg.jpg
This is me without any ATA units increase and without my mag... before i lvl..


http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzEwNDQzMjAwNDYvMS80MDE4LzE1NS8zMi9BOXh5eWtyY2 M0U1BrYVBra21mYU9B/6e9925ab872a23fa4708f1c910ce801f/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUg1vTAhnMD5nGYvhWSKSRXjpjTvIuaS8nrtn AGPipV6IqQO7EbmkkjMNEEPMGbtHTs$/jpg.jpg
This is me after i lvl without the mag and units... OMG my ATA did increase....


This is maybe an interesting stat BUG....

note: my screenshots arent pretty since geekshelf is going down and MSN likes to reduce the resolution of my screenies >.<




here are some more shots to help prove...

http://photos.msn.ca/imageserver/image.aspx?Image=HcZNnT9kkUg1vTAhnMD5nGYvhWSKSRXjV KZABpMm4dKJ7rHuzutfEW75MAlBV!pr1tBQeqKHG1KZtW2EifA UUfW7DDsQvwOOGXwgNjBEXxoS25*68WEg6tx9kBc4DiGfQV6Ac 09fqUVbF3vUwgRfuQ$$
My stats once again before i Level to lvl 73.... i have unit on but no Mag on..

http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzEwNDQzMjA0NTIvMS80MDE4LzE1NS8zMi9FS3d0dVFKM0 RsTTZIb3Y4VWx4MXdn/f17f6d40ad07bdbd5c7948555cc46496/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUg1vTAhnMD5nGYvhWSKSRXjYVWrWzEPFoELo Uea1WWVGheilKD3X5Yb!PBh0cCQ9!w$/jpg.jpg
i just lvl to lvl 73 with the unit... i gain +1 ATA but wait... it doesnt show that i gain +1 ATA when i lvl???? is this the +.5 ATA?? doesnt make sense...

http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzEwNDQzMjA0NTIvMS80MDE4LzE1NS8zMi9iM2NwWGtnNj NGd3M1Tk5tMm1LV2JR/69416005d0cbbba1dcf3b3ef1e5c2b5e/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUg1vTAhnMD5nGYvhWSKSRXjIe4Jshm2hg3M7 w5GLouOfXreg!qIuQ!n5GYdbdv9DYw$/jpg.jpg
Now this time im wearing no units or mag...

http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzEwNDQzMjA0NTIvMS80MDE4LzE1NS8zMi9veFkwMVlsck lLNVZiUUZuQ3JjNGp3/b50170fc7a99a0ca63ccc1ec247b231c/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUg1vTAhnMD5nGYvhWSKSRXjL2*iF2Rgmq!sN 4X6EJD*iO6K0xovQlaXGLpGiyLSAXo$/jpg.jpg
I lvled but... i didnt get a boost in my ATA at all!
could this be the +.5 and that the unit actually gives an extra .5 to ATA?

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Nites on 2003-02-02 19:14 ]</font>

TenguMan007
01-31-2003, 05:08 PM
Yea. Take it off when you about to level.

Celes152
01-31-2003, 05:22 PM
On the DC versions you would keeping gaining a certain stat until it was maxed with no equipment on, even if it was yellow. Odds are, that was one of those levels you weren't going to gain an ATA anyways.

An example would be if you equipped four God/Powers to max your ATP, well it would still give you ATP at level up until it reached max without units in..



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Celes152 on 2003-01-31 15:26 ]</font>

Para
01-31-2003, 05:40 PM
On 2003-01-31 15:22, Celes152 wrote:
On the DC versions you would keeping gaining a certain stat until it was maxed with no equipment on, even if it was yellow. Odds are, that was one of those levels you weren't going to gain an ATA anyways.

An example would be if you equipped four God/Powers to max your ATP, well it would still give you ATP at level up until it reached max without units in..



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Celes152 on 2003-01-31 15:26 ]</font>


i was just doing some experiments and guess what... if you have units on and your stat isnt max... i didnt gain any ATA for some reason... when you have your mag and units equipped and your ATA is maxed... before you level up check out your stats with all ATA gains removed and lvl up... you will noticed that your ATA will actually DECREASE.
Look at the screenshots!!! X.X;;


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Nites on 2003-01-31 15:51 ]</font>

Celes152
01-31-2003, 07:39 PM
Hmm. Because even though my MST was max with MAG I'd always gain 3 or 4 a level reguardless..wow...did V2 really look that bad? I've forgotten. x.x

Para
01-31-2003, 08:54 PM
graphically no... the poor screenshots are a result of the MSN Photos method of compression >.<

Elixer
02-01-2003, 09:14 AM
with ata you dont get +1 every level up most of the times at ghigher levels you get +1 every other level

rena-ko
02-01-2003, 09:55 AM
i think your mag has an .5-increase in ata. you'll get 0.5 ata per level so you only get 1 full ata every 2 level.
hm... dex raises ata, right? does your mag has an odd number in dex?

and about the gold-stats - its okay the way it is. you can only max yourself out via level-ups and materials... temporary raises via units and mags dont count when leveling up.

Para
02-02-2003, 02:17 AM
then why would my ATA would decrease when i lvl for one of the situations??? explain

rena-ko
02-02-2003, 01:03 PM
hm... you took off the pictures?
well... it decreased after you took off the mag. so far so bad. since i cant see the pics and dont know the exact stats you had, i can only speculate...

i guess you mean, ata decreased compared with before the leveling? hm... this is strange... maybe just a glitch...
could you please make the pictures available again?

anyway... its v2, theres no mat-limit yet - so i wouldnt care so much about the actual stats...

Para
02-02-2003, 05:12 PM
ok i updated the screenshots.... this time i added some more evidence...

rena-ko
02-03-2003, 07:55 AM
for your new pics:
when your mag has a dex of 3, this seems ok.

the screenings that pop in when leveling seem to be preset - so you get your .5 ata every level but it says +1 every 2 levels... so... you get +1 ata (with an odd dex at your mag) even if its not saying so.


for your old pics:
you unequipped the mag but not the units right? and ata got decreased by 4 points? hm... more than strange...

the decrease seems to be a bug... but then again, find yourself 5 hit-mats and youre set... ^_^

(sorry for not being of much help)

Para
02-03-2003, 02:48 PM
i just hope someone can confirm this on their PSOs..