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EMPYREAN
Sep 18, 2008, 06:42 AM
ok, so i thought i play psu today as i havent had time to play it since the early beginning of neudaiz gbr but when i logged inn to day at 13:30 gmt +1 ther was hardly any1 in the game.

uni 2 was only half star! 0.0

last time i was on it was 2 full stars at around the same time so has anything special happend since then?

or is ppl just bored of this game and have left it for good?

darkante
Sep 18, 2008, 06:48 AM
Probably boredom, until something new comes.
Itīs pretty understandable, GRM shouldnīt be so long.
In with the new stuff plz. :P
I even try out PSO Private server because of this, can never go wrong with this game. ;D

Ryna
Sep 18, 2008, 07:10 AM
Universe 2 has been sparsely populated over the last few days. It is becoming a real challenge just to find a White Beast S2 game.

From the people I've talked to, they feel the game is very boring at the moment. Either they've capped all of Photon Arts/Characters or got tired of running the same missions over constantly in the latest MAG/GBR events.

Dragwind
Sep 18, 2008, 07:15 AM
I'm with many people on the Neudaiz GBR being too long. Sure, you don't have to run Neudaiz GBR, but for some players the boost is hard to ignore. This also means less people to play with that want to do something else. It's also becoming apparent that as more and more people begin to befriend each other in the community, many players leave Uni 2 and play on another Uni.

I'm sure the population will pick back up once there's another update/event, as it always does.

Neith
Sep 18, 2008, 07:15 AM
Universe 2 has been sparsely populated over the last few days. It is becoming a real challenge just to find a White Beast S2 game.

From the people I've talked to, they feel the game is very boring at the moment. Either they've capped all of Photon Arts/Characters or got tired of running the same missions over constantly in the latest MAG/GBR events.

This. GBR has dragged on for so long, and the drops are so easy to get (with a couple of exceptions), that everyone is burned out and sick to death of running it. Because of this, most people are either quitting (for good/for a short period of time) or trying to find games elsewhere, which is tough when most of the remaining population are still in GBR.

I know that me and a friend have been duoing for almost 2-3 weeks now, because no-one is ever online anymore. It should pick up a little when there's an update, but we have at least one more week of GBR (which will negate any chance for an update this week).

When no-one's on, I've been leveling PAs and hunting items for friends mainly, but even that grows stale after so long.

So, when you say 'Is PSU dead', i'd say 'not yet, but the prognosis isn't good'.

Kadajenova
Sep 18, 2008, 07:26 AM
PSU will be back to life IF :

1)we get lv150 cap, masterclasses, dengeki event, new story chapter, MAG2 rewards, new missions, all old events are back as regular missions (JP got it several months ago), all these things during october (not november, too long...)

2)no more rollback or 0xx errors during events ect...

3)sega should announce next expansion to make pple come back due to lack of updates, AND they should keep the pace of JP schedule (we were 2months behind at AOI launch, now we're 5-6 months behind)

necman
Sep 18, 2008, 07:29 AM
I just log on for the casino coins in hope something good is available one day. The game is doomed. not a very good community, what is left of it.

Cracka_J
Sep 18, 2008, 07:44 AM
you know, several people have been waiting for the stinkpit that is uni 2 to implode for quite some time.

for some, this is a good thing ;)

edit: I also wish they'd cut the uni's down to like 5 on the pc/ps2 side.
the only purpose those extra uni's are providing is further dividing the small community. we really have no use for them.

EMPYREAN
Sep 18, 2008, 07:44 AM
This. GBR has dragged on for so long, and the drops are so easy to get (with a couple of exceptions), that everyone is burned out and sick to death of running it. Because of this, most people are either quitting (for good/for a short period of time) or trying to find games elsewhere, which is tough when most of the remaining population are still in GBR.

I know that me and a friend have been duoing for almost 2-3 weeks now, because no-one is ever online anymore. It should pick up a little when there's an update, but we have at least one more week of GBR (which will negate any chance for an update this week).

When no-one's on, I've been leveling PAs and hunting items for friends mainly, but even that grows stale after so long.

So, when you say 'Is PSU dead', i'd say 'not yet, but the prognosis isn't good'.


well it had crossed my mind but i never thought ppl got bored of this GBR so fast and i have never seen a half star in uni2 before.
kinda sad realy.

Mag_Launcher
Sep 18, 2008, 08:03 AM
Yeah, the current situation is terrible, I just don't have the interest in playing right now. Not only that, my friends are NEVER on anymore, so I can't go hunting non-GBR items (or, hell, anything at all, really), and one friend even quit the game outright recently.

So yeah, not caring until masterclasses or at least that remaining blades mission.

Arika
Sep 18, 2008, 08:14 AM
Probably boredom, until something new comes.
Itīs pretty understandable, GRM shouldnīt be so long.
In with the new stuff plz. :P
I even try out PSO Private server because of this, can never go wrong with this game. ;D
I wonder.. what is so miracle about PSO that never make people bored even it never have any update for years.
(also, how many people is still on PSO ?)

In PSU, every 2-3 weeks without update = desert,

really a big different between them. I really wonder what would happen to PSU, if they released all the content since the beginning like PSO :
A. everybody quit in a month, because of no update
B. everybody keep playing like what they did in PSO.

anyway, I agree on that point about people are no longer stay on Uni02. I don't know how long that I have played in random uni. may be a year?
...may be we should make campaign to get people back to uni02.


btw, don't expect too much about master class, if people bored of everything easily like this, master class will last no more than 2 weeks for you guys.
online game is all about hunting and grinding, I never hear any online game that give you new area every weeks.
there are many stuff to do if people care to do(alt char, PA, item hunt, grind. synthesis), but it is significantly that all of those stuff aren't what they cared about.
the fact that people know about Lumirus/kaosknight from JP server also make some of them dismotivate to find a red/knight. (during the whole JP GBR, people had high motivated to get red/knight, so their GBR was better)


EDIT: did anybody notice that the server connection speed has been increase lately? the damage number pop up as soon as I hit enemy, not even a little lag at all (today)

sephiroth115
Sep 18, 2008, 08:31 AM
I know I'm on the 360 side. I play in random uni's when I do get on to hunt rares, so I can play without a PW so friends can find me and to keep alot of randoms out

Ezodagrom
Sep 18, 2008, 09:00 AM
Dunno if it's just me but...PSU used to be more enjoyable before AOTI...
Dunno if it's the lack of high lvl missions (there's only 5 missions with lvl 150+ enemies, and looks like ST forgot about the old v1 missions, which have enemies 20 to 60 lvls below the US/EU cap and 40 to 80 lvls below the JP cap), or if it's the how easy missions have become with AOTI release (boosts on players stats and enemies remained the same).

Cracka_J
Sep 18, 2008, 09:38 AM
Releasing all content from day 1 would have been the way to go.
People could have actually been immersed and taken in and enjoyed everything the game had to offer. Instead, they became limited, not challenged, and bored. The gimmick of "time lock" has pretty much fired back on sega with the majority of their community leaving. Only the hardcore really got to see the game in full bloom with everything had to offer (and were still waiting on some stuff).

When someone picks up a game for $50 bucks, they want to see everything it has to offer right off the bat, not have to pay for a monthly sub for several months for content leaks. Seriously now, both pc/ps2 and 360 players have been playing this game for nearly 2 years now, been through an original release AND a expansion, and we still have unreleased items off of v1. That's 90 bucks dropped on pc/ps2 end for actual released discs, and around 70 on 360 end (not including extra copies purchased for worn discs), multiple sub fees (around $240 for monthly, $200 for 6 month), and all of V1 STILL HASN'T BEEN RELEASED. That's close to $300 bucks the people that have stuck with the game have dropped on it so far, and we still don't have all the content. It's absolutely pathetic when you break it down, and no big mystery why this community is hurting so much.

Alastor_Haven
Sep 18, 2008, 09:43 AM
Dunno if it's just me but...PSU used to be more enjoyable before AOTI...
Dunno if it's the lack of high lvl missions (there's only 5 missions with lvl 150+ enemies, and looks like ST forgot about the old v1 missions, which have enemies 20 to 60 lvls below the US/EU cap and 40 to 80 lvls below the JP cap), or if it's the how easy missions have become with AOTI release (boosts on players stats and enemies remained the same).

Yeah I miss those
20 grinna's running at if you remember DG in V1
- -

All I been doing is spamming WB as usual

Along rare hunting

Most are my friends are on the PSO BB until an update arrives

Understandable

This is boring -.-

Neith
Sep 18, 2008, 09:55 AM
Dunno if it's just me but...PSU used to be more enjoyable before AOTI...
Dunno if it's the lack of high lvl missions (there's only 5 missions with lvl 150+ enemies, and looks like ST forgot about the old v1 missions, which have enemies 20 to 60 lvls below the US/EU cap and 40 to 80 lvls below the JP cap), or if it's the how easy missions have become with AOTI release (boosts on players stats and enemies remained the same).

You're not the only one who thinks that. I actively prefer to run v1 missions to AotI missions. For some reason, I find a lot of the AotI missions uninspired and flat-out bland. Compare that with The Dual Sentinel, which I can still run and enjoy, or Desert Goliath, or even HIVE.

I think the combination of how easy it is to get 10*+ equips now with the increased stats making the game easy is boring many people. I mean seriously, even Lv150+ mobs don't take much of beating, unless you're solo- and even then it doesn't take TOO much longer to run.

My friend, Touka mentions this a lot, and I agree with him on it- it'd be awesome if ST could rebalance some of the v1 missions (or even add a harder rank?). Missions like The Dual Sentinel are great, but when the mobs are Lv100 in S2, not much can drop and everything dies in seconds, boss included. If there were a Lv150+ Dual Sentinel mission, you can bet I'd be running it. The problem we have now with v1 missions is that almost all of them are obsolete- either having terrible completion rewards and/or their drops in AotI missions. Moonlight Beast is a good example of this- the ONLY use I can see for it now is if you want a Hoshi-kikami. It used to be the only place to find Zanshu-Misaki, but with Sakura Blast S2 and Flowery Pursuit S2, Zanshu-Misaki has lost almost all of its value (down from 20mil+ to less than 1mil).

Giving everything on a silver platter in AotI missions makes people spam the hell out of them. The way the game is currently, v1 may as well not exist because most of the missions are pointless to run :/ I'd love to see improved v1 missions (be it 'S3' difficulty, or simply a rebalance), but it's extremely unlikely to happen now. Shame.

Micro
Sep 18, 2008, 10:02 AM
Giving everything on a silver platter in AotI missions makes people spam the hell out of them. The way the game is currently, v1 may as well not exist because most of the missions are pointless to run :/ I'd love to see improved v1 missions (be it 'S3' difficulty, or simply a rebalance), but it's extremely unlikely to happen now. Shame.

This. Agreed 100%.

I'd love to see v1 maps get a much needed difficulty boost. Doesn't exactly have to be S3 or whatever, just adjust the enemy levels to like 160ish and I'd be happy.

stukasa
Sep 18, 2008, 10:43 AM
My friend, Touka mentions this a lot, and I agree with him on it- it'd be awesome if ST could rebalance some of the v1 missions (or even add a harder rank?). Missions like The Dual Sentinel are great, but when the mobs are Lv100 in S2, not much can drop and everything dies in seconds, boss included. If there were a Lv150+ Dual Sentinel mission, you can bet I'd be running it. The problem we have now with v1 missions is that almost all of them are obsolete- either having terrible completion rewards and/or their drops in AotI missions. Moonlight Beast is a good example of this- the ONLY use I can see for it now is if you want a Hoshi-kikami. It used to be the only place to find Zanshu-Misaki, but with Sakura Blast S2 and Flowery Pursuit S2, Zanshu-Misaki has lost almost all of its value (down from 20mil+ to less than 1mil).

Giving everything on a silver platter in AotI missions makes people spam the hell out of them. The way the game is currently, v1 may as well not exist because most of the missions are pointless to run :/ I'd love to see improved v1 missions (be it 'S3' difficulty, or simply a rebalance), but it's extremely unlikely to happen now. Shame.
I've been thinking about this too and I don't see why they can't do it. They added a new difficulty to Bruce's Dungeon and that's a v1 mission. Bruce S was a huge jump in difficulty over the A rank version and it even included some AoI enemies and drops. They should add S3 rank to all v1 missions, followed by S4 when the level cap gets raised a few times, and finally S5, which would be the highest rank and would be higher than the final level cap (whatever that might be) so that players will always have a challenge even after ST stops updating the game.

DAMASCUS
Sep 18, 2008, 11:10 AM
For me MAG2 has left me really burnt out. Playing right now just feels like waiting for the MAG2 rewards but if I'm still bored of PSU then...so what?

I'm giving myself a break with the last few days of summer weather and playing FF TA2 and doing different things.

Once we get set up with the rewards I'll start running some solo missions and hope that some online friends start showing up again..

Kylie
Sep 18, 2008, 12:20 PM
It's dead right now, yes, but people will be back as soon as we get a new cap, the next event, or master classes. Then they'll leave again once they've picked apart what they desired from those, and they'll wait for the next carcass SEGA / ST decides to throw at them. They're like wild animals.

Powder Keg
Sep 18, 2008, 12:45 PM
Part of the problem is having the 140 cap with MAG, everyone has their mains and even alts at the level cap and some players don't want to use capped characters.

Another problem I think is that people are boring themselves to death with solo PA leveling/capping to the point where they never want to use that PA/character again.

Gunslinger-08
Sep 18, 2008, 01:13 PM
I usually get on once, every day, but more and more often, I find myself just getting a coin and logging, because maybe one of my friends is on at all. I still enjoy running GBR, but then again, my boost % is still only 36.

I've always taken my time with this game, never going into a long grind of hunting. I guess that's why I've not gotten really bored with PSU yet.

EMPYREAN
Sep 18, 2008, 01:25 PM
Dunno if it's just me but...PSU used to be more enjoyable before AOTI...
Dunno if it's the lack of high lvl missions (there's only 5 missions with lvl 150+ enemies, and looks like ST forgot about the old v1 missions, which have enemies 20 to 60 lvls below the US/EU cap and 40 to 80 lvls below the JP cap), or if it's the how easy missions have become with AOTI release (boosts on players stats and enemies remained the same).

i agree.
psu was alot more fun pre AoI and almoust everything was a challenge back then and the S/S2 was allways 10-20 LVs above the current cap back then.
i miss the old days.

(wonder if more ppl would return if the game got harder to play)

Dark Emerald EXE
Sep 18, 2008, 01:29 PM
I dont play on the PC/PS2 server but call i can say is this......*Cheers* S3....S3....S3 lol

DreXxiN
Sep 18, 2008, 01:40 PM
I've been thinking about this too and I don't see why they can't do it. They added a new difficulty to Bruce's Dungeon and that's a v1 mission. Bruce S was a huge jump in difficulty over the A rank version and it even included some AoI enemies and drops. They should add S3 rank to all v1 missions, followed by S4 when the level cap gets raised a few times, and finally S5, which would be the highest rank and would be higher than the final level cap (whatever that might be) so that players will always have a challenge even after ST stops updating the game.

There will be up to S5, assuming the community lives that long.

And man, I still love running TD :P

VetroDrago
Sep 18, 2008, 01:44 PM
To me, PSU has been dead since the Winter Event. I've had some ups but many downs with this game. Now, my friend and I get mad every time we play so I've decided that I'm finally going to leave the game. I will return for master types, but after that I'll probably leave for good. I always wanted Shide-misaki though lol.

Dark Emerald EXE
Sep 18, 2008, 01:46 PM
They should drop it to $5/month........*shrugs*

DeZZ
Sep 18, 2008, 01:48 PM
I've been thinking about this too and I don't see why they can't do it. They added a new difficulty to Bruce's Dungeon and that's a v1 mission. Bruce S was a huge jump in difficulty over the A rank version and it even included some AoI enemies and drops. They should add S3 rank to all v1 missions, followed by S4 when the level cap gets raised a few times, and finally S5, which would be the highest rank and would be higher than the final level cap (whatever that might be) so that players will always have a challenge even after ST stops updating the game.

That would be awesome! I think it would drive everyone back full circle to where it all started, and even out the availability of spammable missions instead of WB monopolizing everyone's playing time. I love some of the first missions that came out on Parum and especially Moatoob, but they just aren't worth the time to run anymore.

BRING ON OLD MISSION REBALANCE OR S3 RUNS...

Ithildin
Sep 18, 2008, 01:52 PM
Yeah, psu pc/ps2 is pretty dead atm. I try and play with friends at least twice a week. I have been on quite frequently recently because I'm off work sick. Every day I log on the servers and they are as quiet as a mouse. I agree with everyone mentioning that there is not enough to do. I think that sums it up really.

Dark Emerald EXE
Sep 18, 2008, 01:52 PM
I say the make mission to how like PSO was.....where missions where some what long....
So like make a mission that has an Ultimate version for PSU


Ultimate on Episode 2 on PSO was somewhat difficult.

Adora
Sep 18, 2008, 02:03 PM
Hopefully the Lightning Carnival will help bring some people back. I am getting close to being done with PSU too and its sad because I used to love playing. Lately I have just been bored. Constantely hunting for rares that dont drop or getting them and failing them. Or getting 500 of the same item. It gets old. Most of the time I am just excited and waiting for the next update. Cant wait for Master Classes and Skill Caps to 50 to come. That will be super fun!
:D

Dark Emerald EXE
Sep 18, 2008, 02:09 PM
Hopefully the Lightning Carnival will help bring some people back. I am getting close to being done with PSU too and its sad because I used to love playing. Lately I have just been bored. Constantely hunting for rares that dont drop or getting them and failing them. Or getting 500 of the same item. It gets old. Most of the time I am just excited and waiting for the next update. Cant wait for Master Classes and Skill Caps to 50 to come. That will be super fun!
:D


yea i feel the same....i mean yea im on the xbox server but im gettin bored kinda.....for the last week the most i played at one time was probably an hour
got off and played somethin else


on other fact for me being bored is bcuz some of the people i play PSU with her in high school so they be in school when im playing sometimes

Zorafim
Sep 18, 2008, 02:40 PM
Huh, there are alot more negative results from this topic than I expected.

I've actually temporarily quit PSU for WoW, simply because I can't think of a thing to do in PSU. We're what, 4 months behind PSUjp? I've gotten bored of cakewalking everything with fF, I've gotten bored for grinding for skill levels, I have nothing to hunt, and I don't find missions fun enough to do for the hell of them. It's a shame the game doesn't have any quests in it, that put you in an area but doesn't make you run through it...

ErtaiClou
Sep 18, 2008, 03:07 PM
I logged in last night and uni2 had 2 stars but it was 10 minutes before I saw someone. No one in the casino, planetside lobbies, Mt. Shitenkaku... Everyone was at WB lobby. I didn't think people would've burnt out on this GBR so fast, but I guess people were more prepared this time around and got their rares faster. Also when you do see a GBR loop these days it almost always ask for 40%+ per boost., so most people have capped by now.

Too bad a lot of the loot is at white beezy. Not enough milla raiding partys at Sakura Blast or something else to distract people.

Shinko
Sep 18, 2008, 03:45 PM
yea it pretty much is. every time i log in i see half star in uni2....

its sad because i REALLY like psu. I dont want another pso or anything like it. i like psu i just really wish it did better.

Maybe i'll just change to 360.... Sigh but i just dont want to have to do EVERYTHING over.... sigh.... well at least i wouldnt be bored......sigh...idk

i really dont want to leave the comminity its samll enough as it is but.... i like playing with others... at least 360 have a lil decent amount of players.....sigh....idk what to do :(

stukasa
Sep 18, 2008, 04:47 PM
There will be up to S5, assuming the community lives that long.
ST sure is taking their time releasing them, then. I don't think JP even has a single S3 and they're half a year ahead of us already. ^^;

Cracka_J
Sep 18, 2008, 04:50 PM
i really dont want to leave the comminity its samll enough as it is but.... i like playing with others... at least 360 have a lil decent amount of players.....sigh....idk what to do :(

Then give 360 a try. But know that you probably have just as many intelligent players playing pc/ps2 as you do 360, so that's definitely something to consider.

Sidney
Sep 18, 2008, 04:53 PM
I've quit PSU temporarily for PSO - PSO just has the excitement and level of difficulty that PSU just doesn't provide me anymore. I've been having tons of fun on PSO, but very little lately on PSU. I'll come back at the next event!

System-Id
Sep 18, 2008, 04:54 PM
yea it pretty much is. every time i log in i see half star in uni2....

its sad because i REALLY like psu. I dont want another pso or anything like it. i like psu i just really wish it did better.

Maybe i'll just change to 360.... Sigh but i just dont want to have to do EVERYTHING over.... sigh.... well at least i wouldnt be bored......sigh...idk

i really dont want to leave the comminity its samll enough as it is but.... i like playing with others... at least 360 have a lil decent amount of players.....sigh....idk what to do :(

You are gonna back so quick like my friend.
Bigger community = more lil annoying kids on mic
and more ***holes on the game....
our community is smaller but much better. nuff said

Ezodagrom
Sep 18, 2008, 05:09 PM
Huh, there are alot more negative results from this topic than I expected.

I've actually temporarily quit PSU for WoW, simply because I can't think of a thing to do in PSU. We're what, 4 months behind PSUjp? I've gotten bored of cakewalking everything with fF, I've gotten bored for grinding for skill levels, I have nothing to hunt, and I don't find missions fun enough to do for the hell of them. It's a shame the game doesn't have any quests in it, that put you in an area but doesn't make you run through it...

It's 6 months behind PSU JP now, and if we don't get Mission Carnival before the end of October, it will be 7 months then.


There will be up to S5, assuming the community lives that long.
Where did you heard/saw that? You mean the picture with S2, S3, S4 and S5 icons? Well, since missions don't use icons, it's possible that missions higher than S2 won't even exist.

Mikura
Sep 18, 2008, 05:14 PM
I have to admit, things have been really slow lately. I'm disappointed to see Uni 2 so barren, but it's just temporary. Once the updates starts rolling again, the population will return to the status quo. My only complaint is I wish the population wouldn't fluctuate so much. I agree with Arika. How can a game like PSO with practically no updates or changes made to it whatsoever have such a steady population for years, yet the PSU population comes and goes like the tide. I really don't mind how small the population is, but the spikes and dips is what bothers me.

AweOfShe
Sep 18, 2008, 05:19 PM
How can a game like PSO with practically no updates or changes made to it whatsoever have such a steady population for years
Nostalgia is a very strong thing. :P

Kizeragi
Sep 18, 2008, 05:22 PM
Not really playing PSU right now, I go on to do maybe 2-3 runs a day. Playing other games and college studies right now. Doesn't sound like everything is going well though. :l ST need to hurry up with the good updates...

Mikura
Sep 18, 2008, 05:38 PM
Nostalgia is a very strong thing. :P

I meant when PSO was new. Not the players coming back to it now because of nostalgia. When the PSO games were still new and new versions were coming out, the population remained pretty constant. PSU doesn't seem to be receiving the same kind of love, despite the fact that in reality, it's received more updates and changes to it than PSO ever did.

AweOfShe
Sep 18, 2008, 05:44 PM
I think in that case, it was more because it was like, the first online Console RPG (or one of). People were more forgiving back then because we didn't know any better, and were giving more leeway for errors.

And I guess with all the shit they did wrong with PSO, you'd think Sonic Team/SEGA would have learned their lesson by now, many years later with a newer, more polished game, but alas... >.>

But hey, I'm not one to complain. This is just strictly conjecture. :P

Mikura
Sep 18, 2008, 06:16 PM
I think in that case, it was more because it was like, the first online Console RPG (or one of). People were more forgiving back then because we didn't know any better, and were giving more leeway for errors.

And I guess with all the shit they did wrong with PSO, you'd think Sonic Team/SEGA would have learned their lesson by now, many years later with a newer, more polished game, but alas... >.>

But hey, I'm not one to complain. This is just strictly conjecture. :P

I've had discussions like this before with some of my friends that played PSO too, and what you've just said is pretty much what we've concluded as well. Simply put, the bar has been raised dramatically since PSO first came out when it comes to online gaming standards, and Sega/ST simply hasn't caught up with the times. It's sad too since as you mentioned, you think all the experience and troubles they had with PSO, they could have learned from that and made PSU into a better, more polished game. In some ways, it is, but the idea of unlocking content that's already on the disc and using that as "updates" was a terrible idea on their part.

I hate to bash on PS2 users, but that platform is the sole reason why PSU can't have true updates like most other games. The lack of hard drive use and true downloadable content and patches is a huge disadvantage PSU has, and it'll always be the one thing that will hold it back from being a long-term online RPG.

Now before anyone jumps on me, let me remind everyone that I'm not complaining, nor do I have anything against the game. I still love it and I'll still play it as long as ST continues to update it and give it attention, but I'm merely pointing out the vast potentional this game "could" have, but doesn't. It really hurts me knowing this, because I've never wanted a game to succeed as much as PSU, but a lot of things are holding it back from doing so.

darkante
Sep 18, 2008, 10:53 PM
PSU: Easy mode, Rares being to easy to get and is pretty much just handed over.
These reasons makes me more to just go and level P.A to have something to
do, and even that get old sometimes.

PSO: *Challenges are always there and enemies brutal in Ult, specially Towers.
Higher star stuff are actually pretty damned hard to
get and there are a huge amount of rares*.
And if you are not properly prepared as a Cast character, you will
have a extremely hard time with bosses.

*That is what PSU need to keep population.

Arika
Sep 18, 2008, 11:15 PM
well, at least it has 2 star now. hope it goes up a bit <<;
doing bruce atm.

Neobeast
Sep 19, 2008, 03:30 AM
I just got PS2 AotI with v1 on the way (already play on 360). Hopefully there's still a strong crowd on PS2/PC, so I can drop another MMO I've been playing and stick with this one. It'd save me a few bucks and I'd have the entire PSU community to run with.

sephiroth115
Sep 19, 2008, 08:46 AM
PSU is seeming like Old Yeller, but we're just waiting to take it out back of the shed and... yeah

Zorafim
Sep 19, 2008, 09:28 AM
It's 6 months behind PSU JP now, and if we don't get Mission Carnival before the end of October, it will be 7 months then.

Good god. If this is accurate, I don't think I'm even going to bother logging in for 7 months. Is PSUna really letting the game slip this much?

As far as that PSO thing goes, pretty much everything that happened in PSO made me go "whoa". Granted I was 12, but I still get rushed of pleasure whenever I turn it on. I'm not sure if this is nostalgia or not, but there seems to be a fair amount of times where I play old games and don't get the same kick as this. So I don't think I'd chalk it up to pure nostalgia, it was just a good game.

Ezodagrom
Sep 19, 2008, 10:01 AM
Good god. If this is accurate, I don't think I'm even going to bother logging in for 7 months. Is PSUna really letting the game slip this much?
Yep, it's accurate.
JP finished Mission Carnival on April 10 and Neudaiz GBR on May 8.
We're on the last week of Neudaiz GBR and we'll get Mission Carnival sometime in October.
May 8 + 6 months = November 8. Assuming Mission Carnival lasts 4 weeks, we'll be 6 months behind JP if we get Mission Carnival on October 10.
May 8 + 7 months = December 8. We'll be 7+ months behind JP if Mission Carnival doesn't start before November 7.


PSU: Easy mode, Rares being to easy to get and is pretty much just handed over.
Well, rares aren't that easy to get on PSU, except on events, GBRs and the rare free missions :/.

LaMBoLOgy
Sep 19, 2008, 11:07 AM
Being on psu since day 2, a lot has gone wrong. The release of aoti is what killed psu, the ominous easy mode, rares arnt rare, unbalanced missions, unbalanced pa's... Then there is ST, the neglect from sega is impudent..I hardly play anymore, but not because I don't like psu, but because no one seem to know how to do somthing different, no one wants to challenge themself; if psu is so easy, run v.1 missions and get that 34mp from an s2. Sega just needs to release everything at once, or the community will never prosper.
And the community needs to stop segregating itself from one another, everyone knows where uni 2 is. If the community bothers you stay away from hot spots.

_tsunami
Sep 19, 2008, 11:15 AM
Yeah, psu pc/ps2 is pretty dead atm. I try and play with friends at least twice a week. I have been on quite frequently recently because I'm off work sick. Every day I log on the servers and they are as quiet as a mouse. I agree with everyone mentioning that there is not enough to do. I think that sums it up really.

Oh boy i have to keep you in line.

Please Ith we've talked about this lol. Find my hizeri / mind hahahaha.
The game is fine as it is as Arika stated sega has given this game 10 times the updates PSO ever got and content wise PSU has more elements (bosses, missions and items) and a refining battle system. So its pretty unjust to to just 'agree' with everyone mentioning that theres not enough to do. There is always something to do its just the majority of the negative self esteem with the players themselves.

This kind of mirroring behaviour is similar to the school playgrounds flock of sheep. One person gets picked on and the rest will follow 'baaaah baaah'. Finding whos to blame? just look in the mirror. It's really your lack of spirit to play thats brought the game down. Look PSO we played the heck out of towards the future. Whats so great about it? nothing. Just finding tonnes of club of laconiums. But what it really comes down to is if people find in themselves to just get on and spend some friendly company with other players which currently seems to me is what is lacking from the spirit of foreign player base compared to JP.

I still spend time on it. theres usually something to do but mostly im waiting online for friends to run with. If its the population thats discourage you then do something, get on with some friends instead of spreading the hate and killing it yourself. (ith im just mad your not on today :P)

RedRaz0r
Sep 19, 2008, 11:19 AM
Probably boredom, until something new comes.
Itīs pretty understandable, GRM shouldnīt be so long.
In with the new stuff plz. :P
I even try out PSO Private server because of this, can never go wrong with this game. ;D

GRM shouldn't be long?


You mean GBR sir?

Ithildin
Sep 19, 2008, 11:32 AM
Oh boy i have to keep you in line.

Please Ith we've talked about this lol. Find my hizeri / mind hahahaha.
The game is fine as it is as Arika stated sega has given this game 10 times the updates PSO ever got and content wise PSU has more elements (bosses, missions and items) and a refining battle system. So its pretty unjust to to just 'agree' with everyone mentioning that theres not enough to do. There is always something to do its just the majority of the negative self esteem with the players themselves.

This kind of mirroring behaviour is similar to the school playgrounds flock of sheep. One person gets picked on and the rest will follow 'baaaah baaah'. Finding whos to blame? just look in the mirror. It's really your lack of spirit to play thats brought the game down. Look PSO we played the heck out of towards the future. Whats so great about it? nothing. Just finding tonnes of club of laconiums. But what it really comes down to is if people find in themselves to just get on and spend some friendly company with other players which currently seems to me is what is lacking from the spirit of foreign player base compared to JP.

I still spend time on it. theres usually something to do but mostly im waiting online for friends to run with. If its the population thats discourage you then do something, get on with some friends instead of spreading the hate and killing it yourself. (ith im just mad your not on today :P)

Yeah well maybe that's why I'm finding it hard to get excited about it these days. It's so quiet, nobody plays like they used to. It's hard to keep your sense of spirit when there isn't anyone to play with. Look at you, you got so bored you moved to the Jp servers when you were so dead against foreigners going over there, saying "it's not their place!". I'm not gonna compare pso with psu anymore cos that's been done before, to death even. Friendly company is one thing Tsu, playing an online game that not many are interested in anymore is another.

darkante
Sep 19, 2008, 12:33 PM
GRM shouldn't be long?


You mean GBR sir?

Yesh, mistakes is bound to happen sometimes. X)

_tsunami
Sep 19, 2008, 11:04 PM
Actually Ith i was waiting for you you didn't come lol. Got nothing to do with me being on JP i can speak JP so thats ok lol

and i have never ditched anyone for JP, I'm mostly on Eng servers waiting around

Googlebonker
Sep 19, 2008, 11:34 PM
Oh boy i have to keep you in line.

Please Ith we've talked about this lol. Find my hizeri / mind hahahaha.
The game is fine as it is as Arika stated sega has given this game 10 times the updates PSO ever got and content wise PSU has more elements (bosses, missions and items) and a refining battle system. So its pretty unjust to to just 'agree' with everyone mentioning that theres not enough to do. There is always something to do its just the majority of the negative self esteem with the players themselves.

This kind of mirroring behaviour is similar to the school playgrounds flock of sheep. One person gets picked on and the rest will follow 'baaaah baaah'. Finding whos to blame? just look in the mirror. It's really your lack of spirit to play thats brought the game down. Look PSO we played the heck out of towards the future. Whats so great about it? nothing. Just finding tonnes of club of laconiums. But what it really comes down to is if people find in themselves to just get on and spend some friendly company with other players which currently seems to me is what is lacking from the spirit of foreign player base compared to JP.

I still spend time on it. theres usually something to do but mostly im waiting online for friends to run with. If its the population thats discourage you then do something, get on with some friends instead of spreading the hate and killing it yourself. (ith im just mad your not on today :P)

As if! XD Why did people play PSO TTF over and over and over? What other online RPGs for consoles were there at the time? lol One major factor in the dislike of PSU features has been the progression of online RPGs. We that didn't have good enough PCs to enjoy and wanted to play online RPGs at the time didn't have any other option until FFXI came along.

Many of us have compared PSU to other online RPGs currently available on the market and are disappointed in some of what PSU has. We think that if other companies have proven great features, why would they decide to leave them out of PSU?

Nitro Vordex
Sep 19, 2008, 11:42 PM
ST did have a complete restaffing. New young kids. ITT:Programming newbies.

Noblewine
Sep 21, 2008, 10:33 AM
The games has transformed into a ghost town but I'm not complaining. The people who left during the dry spell will eventually return or they won't either way the game is abit more enjoyable since the decrease.

Arika
Sep 21, 2008, 10:34 AM
In the plus side, people who say he quit, always return afterward <<;
there is a magic in it...

EMPYREAN
Sep 22, 2008, 03:17 AM
In the plus side, people who say he quit, always return afterward <<;
there is a magic in it...


so it seems. maybe ppl actualy likes this game alot.

as for my self, i will never quit but i do take breaks when ther is down periodes like the 1 we have now.

thunder-ray
Sep 22, 2008, 05:42 AM
Im still into this game dued the the fact that I have pas to lvl and certain S ranks to hunt for. But yeah it has turned into a ghost town which is ok with me since I mostly solo missions now and days.

SStrikerR
Sep 22, 2008, 06:33 AM
Yeah, psu is a ghost town now. I truly liked some of the gameplay and the music, but there was absolutely nothing for me to do. Leveling was boring, PA leveling was just stupid, and hunting items was more frustrating than anything. Then when I got 065'd in both MAGs I decided to just quit.

_tsunami
Sep 22, 2008, 07:37 AM
Yeah, psu is a ghost town now. I truly liked some of the gameplay and the music, but there was absolutely nothing for me to do. Leveling was boring, PA leveling was just stupid, and hunting items was more frustrating than anything.

Now.. that sounds like what you do in any online RPG.. :P
Perhaps switch to a different type of game?