Question about Gunmaster

[Dark Emerald EXE]

I was just looking at the stas of it... I could be wrong but it seems like a down grade compared to fortegunner....I'm pretty sure someone has already made a topic about this but.....yea

Cast Female (Fortegunner 20) - Online
Level HP ATP ATA TP DFP EVP MST STA
140 3206 1482 1286 662 305 540 150 15


Cast Female (Gunmaster 20) - Online
Level HP ATP ATA TP DFP EVP MST STA
140 2965 1398 1357 257 271 150 212 9


My female cast is at lvl 132 but im pretty sure i can get her to 140 before the master classes....
Idk, from what i've read it just seems bad.........


I guess the only people who can answer are those who can use them :P

[Sybian]

Those stats suck, I hope those numbers are wrong

[Kizeragi]

I don't use it but, the extra 10 bullet levels and speed make up the difference.

GM will outdamage fG, but only if bullets are leveled properly.

[Alastor_Haven]

Downgrade?

A large boost in speed
Level 50 bullets
Hey NO launcher?. Use a shotgun
Level your bullets and I will tell you GM with a shotgun at Gatling gun speed will outdmg a FG


Not a downgrade
But that's just my opinion

Inb4WEHAVEacertainsomeone say they fucking fail because THEY CAN'T FUCKING MELEE

That is all

[Syl]

The only way you won't see any kind of gain over fG is if your bullets aren't in the 31+ range. Sure, GM might only have 4 guns, but shotguns and lasers alone are monstrous when you cap them. Not to mention you fire faster.

Thing is, you have to have lots of good gear and top notch PA's before you can utilize GM properly. And besides, most of the stats aren't significantly lower where you're going to seriously see that lack of stats anywhere.

[Alastor_Haven]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD2zVyF6iTo

Here's a GM

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Downgrade?

A large boost in speed
Level 50 bullets
Hey NO launcher?. Use a shotgun
Level your bullets and I will tell you GM with a shotgun at Gatling gun speed will outdmg a FG


Not a downgrade
But that's just my opinion

Inb4WEHAVEacertainsomeone say they fucking fail because THEY CAN'T FUCKING MELEE

That is all
lol i understand that completely....i mean they are master classes of course..... More then likely i'll go back to fortegunner when i spam True Darkness (just in case i get that monster who is bullet restistant)

I guess i shoulda rewrote it.....im not saying GM in general is a downgrade....i mean that stats :P

[Alastor_Haven]

Well they have no racial bonuses as well haha

It's just the speed
and bullets levels pretty much

Other then that

The forteclass is still good

[Dark Emerald EXE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD2zVyF6iTo

Here's a GM

Hmmm i see your point.....although i wont be having a love inferno or spread needle :P

[Alastor_Haven]

You don't need a Needle or a Love inferno

Shotguns damage is IT'S A SHOTGUN like ATP matters on it
Or even a Love faggot cannon

Just level your bullets

and you can do the same with smaller damage output

A desta
A Meteor cannon

Even those can do the same amount of damage with smaller outputs

[Dark Emerald EXE]

You don't need a Needle or a Love inferno

Shotguns damage is IT'S A SHOTGUN like ATP matters on it
Or even a Love faggot cannon

Just level your bullets

and you can do the same with smaller damage output

A desta
A Meteor cannon

Even those can do the same amount of damage with smaller outputs
True true.......

If i try Fighmaster....i might have a lil issue since known of my DS PAs are at 31+,Swords....only using spinning break,(need to level gravity), spears....only Dus Majarra and robado, and axes......only one i got past 21 is redda...althoguth jabroga doesnt take that long to level....

[RegulusHikari]

Where were you comparing stats?
I recall hearing that GM was the only master class to get stat boosts higher than its Forte counterpart.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Ummm i got it from here....

[RegulusHikari]

Didn't notice PSOW had the option. I see now. Guess some JP player had their info wrong.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

Didn't notice PSOW had the option. I see now. Guess some JP player had their info wrong.
I may havent been wrong....it could of just been that way at first....idk

[Alastor_Haven]

Where were you comparing stats?
I recall hearing that GM was the only master class to get stat boosts higher than its Forte counterpart.

Eh where did you hear this?

[Cracka_J]

and just so you know...don't stress the current rarity of love infernos

white day + pf in 2009 = a shitload of love inferno influx
that should be right around the time we get master classes ;P

[Alastor_Haven]

Besides

The 13 cannon makes it look like shit

Too bad we won't see it

For a very very long time :l

[Syl]

GM has always had lower stats or else they'd be (even more) broken. lol

Also, Degahna Cannon+ want

[Golto]

If you are a cast comparing type lvl 20 of both you'll lose 9% atp, other races lose 6% atp. I'm not sure all the stats/race combo tables are correct at JPN psu wiki. I think someone just put in data they thought was correct.

But you gain more atp% from those extra 10 bullet levels plus increased elemental % to make up for that 6~9%.

Gunmaster does have higher ata% than FtG so maybe that is what that guy was talking about.

[Dark Emerald EXE]

What about the pp consumption....well then i guess cati bullet would cancel that out