References in PSU, did anyone else notice?

[Blue-Hawk]

I know people probably did and I might be a little slow to catch onto this little nod, but I'll ask anyway.

These three materials-
Hapotite
Zepotite
Chicotite

Possible refferences to the classics
Harpo
Chico
Zeppo

Three members of the great Marx brothers. Still looking for a Groucho refference. :P

[Genoa]

EDIT: NONSENSE D:

[Aisha379]

"beat those"...?

The Marx Brothers are old comedians, not games D=


And I never noticed it. I doubt it was intentional though =S

[EspioKaos]

It was intentional. The names of many of the game's metals are derived from metric units. It just so happens that the Marx Brothers' names were used to create five SI units: harpi-, grouchi-, zeppi-, gummi- and chici-. Though some of the connections were lost in localization, others are still noticeable as you've pointed out.

Hapotite = harpi- (10^27)
Gurtite = grouchi- (10^30)
Zepotite = zepi- (10^33)
Gamotite = gummi- (10^36)
Chicotite = chici- (10^39)

Also, the prefixes mega-, giga-, tera-, peta- and exa- were used to create the -nite series of metals.

[System-Id]

espio has point :P

[STRANG]

thats cool. while we r on wierd facts, u ever notice the gold coins in the treasure chests we got 4 mag. Liberty(Mercury)Dimes, which were actually pure silver. Strange thing is the us stopped making them right after they nuked Japan. *finger to the chin*hmmmmmm...........

[Aisha379]

It was intentional. The names of many of the game's metals are derived from metric units. It just so happens that the Marx Brothers' names were used to create five SI units: harpi-, grouchi-, zeppi-, gummi- and chici-. Though some of the connections were lost in localization, others are still noticeable as you've pointed out.

Hapotite = harpi- (10^27)
Gurtite = grouchi- (10^30)
Zepotite = zepi- (10^33)
Gamotite = gummi- (10^36)
Chicotite = chici- (10^39)

Also, the prefixes mega-, giga-, tera-, peta- and exa- were used to create the -nite series of metals.

Well, I meant I didn't think it was intentional for Sega to reference the Marx Brothers specifically - just seemed odd.

I never noticed that about the metric units though (or knew they had metric units named after them)

I just always assumed everything on PSU was named by pulling random letters from a hat >_>

[TecherRamen]

Ill add a weird fact as well.. The sweet death's name and its chance to inflict the sleep status are a reference to Greek Mythology. To die peacefully in one's sleep was Hera's greatest gift. Look up the story of Biton and Cleobis.

[Astarin]

Very cool! What other materials have a story behind their names? I know the ores are named after the Greek/Roman gods, and that many of those got lost in translation as well. (Merculine = Mercury, Kerseline = Ceres, Aporaline = Apollo, etc.) The gemstones are obviously a play on real gemstones. What else is there? This might require an entirely new thread...

[sephiroth115]

crea= creator, maybe. that might explain why only humans and neumans can use, i.e. beasts and casts were "created"

[Darius_Drake]

This is very interesting. A thread should be made collecting all the mythos behind PSU and the names they use for different items.

[Darius_Drake]

crea= creator, maybe. that might explain why only humans and neumans can use, i.e. beasts and casts were "created"

Good one, with that though it would seem that humans should be the only one to be able to use crea weapons. All of the other races were created from the humans making the humans the creating race. I like this type of stuff. Sorry, geekdom is slipping out. :)

[Blue-Hawk]

This is very interesting. A thread should be made collecting all the mythos behind PSU and the names they use for different items.

I believe we have one started here. :P

I knew about the Greek/Roman gods and the metals, but a few others I didn't. Kind of interesting.

[Elbereth_Gilthoniel]

I'm sure there's some Roman mythology in there somewhere too.

Marseline - Mars
Dianaline - Diana
Chronoseline - Chronos
Junaline - Jupiter or Juno?
Vulcaline - Vulcan
Vestaline - Vesta
Neptuline - Neptune

Maybe it's just me, but I think that's how they got thier names. I'm not expert on mythology though. Oh and anyone else having any bother using the PSU site still? It's where I usually post :x


I believe we have one started here. :P

I knew about the Greek/Roman gods and the metals, but a few others I didn't. Kind of interesting.

If I'd done that two minutes faster I wouldn't look as dumb now XDD

[sephiroth115]

Good one, with that though it would seem that humans should be the only one to be able to use crea weapons. All of the other races were created from the humans making the humans the creating race. I like this type of stuff. Sorry, geekdom is slipping out. :)
that is true, I thought that neumans were the first ones created? dunno much about the history ;p. maybe its bc the neumans have "similar" traits to the humans, such as no special ability, maybe they were created more along the lines of humans as opposed to the beasts and casts, which are obviously not like humans. omg I'm rambling again. sry. lol

[GeekRuler]

Par Wood = Wood
Par Ash = Ash
Par Ebon = Ebon
Par Walna = Walnut
Par Ork = Oak
Par meaning Parum (durr...) Mot Moatoob Neu meaning Neudaiz

I am the incredibly amazing Captain Obvious~ :D

[landman]

Isn't all this in the japanese wiki or some similar japanese website?....

[l_Will_l]

I found something similar to this today actually just hitting random links. was lookin at the asura hiken on psupedia here:

http://psupedia.info/Asura-hiken


clicked on the link that the word asura may be a group of superbeings in some religion. here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asura


In the first paragraph in there it states they were opposed to the deva's (like deva-zashi? lol) which clicking on the word deva led me here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_(Hinduism)

And then finally on this page of Hinduism youll notice at least 8 or 9 of the hindu gods names are firmillar? well most of them are pso mag names or pso mag names dirived from there. Now i know its not completly psu or if its brought up already but we were on the mythology topic so yea ^^

Never realised they named the things that are to watch over our shoulder and walk beside us without leaving footprints after gods. lol

[_K1_]

crea= creator, maybe. that might explain why only humans and neumans can use, i.e. beasts and casts were "created"
Newmans were genetically engineered as well. On the Japanese servers, they're called 'Clair' weapons and according to PSUPedia that is possibly a reference to the PSO NPC.

[sephiroth115]

Newmans were genetically engineered as well. On the Japanese servers, they're called 'Clair' weapons and according to PSUPedia that is possibly a reference to the PSO NPC.Hey, thanks for the info, like I say, not much history knowledge. Just picked up PSU this year, never played the rest :cheepcheep:

[9lotus]

Acenaline - Athena
Wenceline - Venus
Aporaline - Apollo
Dianaline - Diana
Marseline - Mars
Upteline - Jupiter
Kerseline - Ceres
Vulcaline - Vulcan
Vestaline - Vesta
Junaline - Juno
Merculine - Mercury
Neptuline - Neptune
Terseline - Tellus
Uranseline - Uranus
Chronoseline - Chronos

[haruna]

The JP wiki's page on name origins
http://psu.fei-yen.jp/wiki/html/A4BDA4CEC2BE2FA5CDA1BCA5DFA5F3A5B0.html
http://psu.fei-yen.jp/wiki/html/A4BDA4CEC2BE2FA5CDA1BCA5DFA5F3A5B02FC1F5C8F7C9CA.h tml

The GRM bows are all related to archery in various European languages. Same with the new GRM Rods. A lot of Tenora weapon names have Swahili origins.

[SLY_J]

I just always assumed everything on PSU was named by pulling random letters from a hat >_>

I think you may be confusing item names with enemy names. Many (if not most) items in PSU have some sort of naming patern. Enemy names on the other hand are seemingly random. Personally, I think it'd be best not to look for references in enemy names. After all, if a "Kog Nadd" is a reference to something, I'd rather not know what it is.

[EspioKaos]

The JP wiki's page on name origins
http://psu.fei-yen.jp/wiki/html/A4BDA4CEC2BE2FA5CDA1BCA5DFA5F3A5B0.html
http://psu.fei-yen.jp/wiki/html/A4BDA4CEC2BE2FA5CDA1BCA5DFA5F3A5B02FC1F5C8F7C9CA.h tml

The GRM bows are all related to archery in various European languages. Same with the new GRM Rods. A lot of Tenora weapon names have Swahili origins.

Likewise, with GRM's line of cards, the names come from different playing card names (Jack, Queen and King) in Italian, Latin and Greek.

[landman]

And... where can I find this in the psupedia?? ;)

:D

Wops, sorry, corrected the pedia name xD

[EspioKaos]

And... where can I find this in the psupedia?? ;)
We don't have a specific article dedicated to this info, but individual weapon and item articles usually have details on name origins and the like. Well, not all of them yet, but we'll get there eventually. ;)

[thematesV2]

no-one seemed to note this so i figured I would add, although not really for PSU...


alot, if not all of the basic Mags from PSO were named after gods/goddesses or mythical creatures/beings from different religions. just recently I began noticing..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apsaras
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhairava
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garuda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga

although it seems like the link between meaning and appearance/power is slim...

Segac seemed to attempt to bring about their own set of cultures here with PSU though, so the names of weapons/items may be harder to trace than the older PSO stuff.