Future Newman Female Fighmasters Of The World

[Morganna]

Post here if you too are going to intentionally make a female newman fighmaster.

[Yusaku_Kudou]

I think I'm pretty much a given on that front.

[Cranberry]

What is the point of this topic? Not trying to be mean, but even if a list is made here what exactly do you plan to do with this information?

[Neith]

Yeah, had the requirements for a while now. It should be easy enough to play :wacko:

More importantly, I've had my weapons/armour for a few months, so no worrying about mass price inflation when the master classes release.

[unicorn]

What is the point of this topic? Not trying to be mean, but even if a list is made here what exactly do you plan to do with this information?


Well HUnewm/earl > FOnewm/earl. =3

I get angry when I see a Newman techer wearing the HUnewearl clothes. -_-

[Genoa]

Well HUnewm/earl > FOnewm/earl. =3

I get angry when I see a Newman techer wearing the HUnewearl clothes. -_-

I'm more upset at the deception of non-techers wearing PSO techer clothes because I'm expecting some kind of support, then quickly disappointed to find out there are no techs at all =/

I can't say I'll be doing the same however as far as Newman Fighmaster (not sure why you emphasize on the female... the gender difference isn't even noticeable).
I understand the fun in playing against the regular flow of race/type combinations... but when it's something like newman fighters who can't apply their dominant TP stat to the type at all =/ upsets me.

Primary jobs when Master classes are released for me:

Newman: Masterforce
Human: Acrotecher
Beast: Gunmaster
CAST: Fighmaster

My reasons?
Masterforce has no access to melee or ranged weapons and works purely off tech damage. Despite the low HP (especially with Newman), I still find Newman the most suitable for this due to ATP meaning NOTHING for this class.

Any Acrotecher is just awesome anyways, but I like Humans 5% bonus, giving great versatility with melee, ranged, attack techs, and support techs.

Gunmaster has no access to melee, therefore nanoblast will help me when it's required.

Fighmaster has no access to ranged weapons, so SUV will be great.

Seeing there's no racial bonus' for the Master classes, mixing cast/beast for gun/figh masters work well in my opinion.

[pikachief]

Well.....

i might make my beast a Master Force for a while :D lol

[Scejntjynahl]

Its funny how I see the master classes as a "limitation" class, for the few who want to be challenged. I just hope I dont hear later on a bunch of people complaining they can't handle the master classes. Perhaps that is the point, isnt it? To see who can, and who cant.

[pikachief]

Its funny how I see the master classes as a "limitation" class, for the few who want to be challenged. I just hope I dont hear later on a bunch of people complaining they can't handle the master classes. Perhaps that is the point, isnt it? To see who can, and who cant.

i also cant wait for the noobs of the 360 serverr, cuz day 1 everyone will be master class thena week later everyone will talk about how much they suck.

also i wouldnt be surprised if cuz they're all noobs and see a big cost on PP and only S ranks, they buy up a huge amount of 10*'s XD

[Sidney]

@Scejntjynahl: I don't think that will be the case. If you've seen videos of the Masterclasses in action, you'd say otherwise. It puts the game into "easy-mode". It will probably take very little skill to play; Gunmasters and Fighmasters just tear through everything in seconds. I think most people can "handle" it. It's just spamming Jabroga, Torando Dance, the square button if you're a Gunmaster, and watching everything die.

[Rayokarna]

Ick, no way!

What are you doing here? o_O

[pikachief]

Ick, no way!

im sorry but just u posting here made me lol :>

hiya welcome sorry your site is down D: lol

[pikachief]

My site isn't down, freak!

oh i forgot u actually had one i was referring to the main forums lol

[RyuRoots]

Oh lord. There goes the neighborhood. >_>

As for the topic at hand, I'll try it out. She's been a fighter since day 1, so it's not like it's too unexpected. It seems boring with so few weapons, but meh. FF is maxed and Figh is over 10, so might as well.

[Rayokarna]

@Scejntjynahl: I don't think that will be the case. If you've seen videos of the Masterclasses in action, you'd say otherwise. It puts the game into "easy-mode". It will probably take very little skill to play; Gunmasters and Fighmasters just tear through everything in seconds. I think most people can "handle" it. It's just spamming Jabroga, Torando Dance, the square button if you're a Gunmaster, and watching everything die.

I doubt it would put the game into easy mode since FF is still in place. For GM to even be effective, their PAs have to be maxed, which not everybody has. Then again everything on the above could be said for fF & fG. So I doubt how it can make it easier.

[steely]

i totally disagree with special k ive bin a beast gunner since day 1 of the game and just for the sake of special k im guna make my female beast into mastertecher :p
techer going beast lol :)

[Kyecsrai]

I'll try it out as well. No access to claws makes me sad though.

[AerisZeal]

Foxy makes me lol.

I'm gonna try Fighmaster prolly waaaay later on my main cause she does everything my alts do, but it'll be a long while after they're out still so that's not happening anytime soon.

[Rayokarna]

Im turning my main into a MF anyway. Yeah, I said it!

[Lyrix]

I doubt it would put the game into easy mode since FF is still in place. For GM to even be effective, their PAs have to be maxed, which not everybody has. Then again everything on the above could be said for fF & fG. So I doubt how it can make it easier.

Fighmaster only has freeze G traps and double speed attacks on some of the most powerful melee weapons with the most broken PAs in the game, how could that NOT make it easier?

and a GM with high level rifle bullets will most likely be pretty broken as well, double speed rifles with knockdown? that doesnt really sound fair either.

[AweOfShe]

Already on it. :P

I can't go back to fF anymore. Loving the speed boost and the traps too much. :l Which is why I made the AF. For all the non-FM weapons, and PAs that I levelled. (Besides the different proportions, anyway :P)

[pikachief]

Who are you freaks?!

noo u are teh freaks! D:

and everyone who plays PSU knows u as well as they know me >.>

[Rayokarna]

Fighmaster only has freeze G traps and double speed attacks on some of the most powerful melee weapons with the most broken PAs in the game, how could that NOT make it easier?

and a GM with high level rifle bullets will most likely be pretty broken as well, double speed rifles with knockdown? that doesnt really sound fair either.

Look at it this way.

With HP of most enemies we have now (Bar Remaining Blades), most of them wouldn't stand a chance reguardless if it was a fF or FM. It will be like minimal time distance between the two interms of time finishing missions. It's just a case of the two classes going about the same thing from a different angle.

Rifles arn't really GM strong point since the time it takes an enemy to get up would make the speed boost redundant unless your going for damage. The most scary thing about GM is Shotguns & Laser Cannons and how fast they will be able to fire and how much power they pack behind it. Easily making it the strongest class in the game, with maxed stuff.

I dont really see it as much of a big change to be honest. Mission times will go down by what, 2 minutes best. And none of these classes are a instant win button unless your stuff is maxed anyway.

Im happy to see them, cause it will easily weedle out the good players to the people who dont know what they are doing.

[Scejntjynahl]

@Scejntjynahl: I don't think that will be the case. If you've seen videos of the Masterclasses in action, you'd say otherwise. It puts the game into "easy-mode". It will probably take very little skill to play; Gunmasters and Fighmasters just tear through everything in seconds. I think most people can "handle" it. It's just spamming Jabroga, Torando Dance, the square button if you're a Gunmaster, and watching everything die.

I would like to see a Masterfigher taking on an S2 boss that flies, or a mob of enemies that attack from a distance. Also would be fun to see a mastergunner take on, say a room full of magashis when they run out of PP and chargers.

[Foxy Nicole]

Everybody here knows me?! That's kind of freaky.

[Rayokarna]

I would like to see a Masterfigher taking on an S2 boss that flies, or a mob of enemies that attack from a distance. Also would be fun to see a mastergunner take on, say a room full of magashis when they run out of PP and chargers.

In terms for that flying boss they have already sorted that one out XD. 4 Jabrogas from a maxed out FM with a decent lvl'd Jabroga will kill it on S2. I will say give or take 7 on S3.

In terms of the Magashis, well, that isn't easy for anyone lol.



Everybody here knows me?! That's kind of freaky.

Cause when ever someone goes to General Discussion on the Offical forums one of your out landish topics are always one of the first 3 that aint stickied.

Happy now?

[AweOfShe]

I would like to see a Masterfigher taking on an S2 boss that flies, or a mob of enemies that attack from a distance

Yeah... All 2% of them. :lol:

Addendum: I tend to look at porn when the bosses fly btw. :l

[Rayokarna]

Yeah... All 2% of them. :lol:

Addendum: I tend to look at porn when the bosses fly btw. :l

Fucking Epic :lol:


My topics are not outlandish!

*facepencil*

[Scejntjynahl]

Fucking Epic :lol:



*facepencil*

Only you would think that porn is epic.

2% or not, it is still there. I will be so happy to play with a masterfighter in any quest that requires something to be shot at (ie switches) and then ask them to do it.

I still stand by my point. Furthermore I dont think highly of any class that just spams anything over and over again, I call them "limited".

[Akumamaru]

i was ganna make my male newman FF into a FM started on FG now at lvl6

[AweOfShe]

Only you would think that porn is epic.

2% or not, it is still there. I will be so happy to play with a masterfighter in any quest that requires something to be shot at (ie switches) and then ask them to do it.

I still stand by my point. Furthermore I dont think highly of any class that just spams anything over and over again, I call them "limited".

Well, I'm not saying it isn't a valid argument. Just not something you should put too much emphasis on (Not that it looks like you are anyway). :P

[Foxy Nicole]

I cant see my post?

[Rayokarna]

Only you would think that porn is epic.

2% or not, it is still there. I will be so happy to play with a masterfighter in any quest that requires something to be shot at (ie switches) and then ask them to do it.

I still stand by my point. Furthermore I dont think highly of any class that just spams anything over and over again, I call them "limited".

Call them limited if you want, but they are forced to to unload the most useful PAs in the game. Not like it makes much of a difference to what we are seeing now. Take it that there are only two bosses in the game out of melee reach(One likes staying on the ground anyway). And most enemies that fly will die before they do that anyway.

Missions that need switches are like...

..uh, 2. And seeing a whole party will of Fighmasters running HSM will make me laugh so hard I'll get Heart Failure.


I cant see my post?

Now your just trolling to be silly. Go to FKL and hope they will accept you. (Punk is making me lose post count >.>; /sarcasm )

[autumn]

If you need EXP do not play with FM ^_^ FM is brutal ugly numbers over and over again. GM is just as sick once bullets are leveled. Its really depressing to put a MF beside either one, they don't stand up to either other type...
A newman FM is probably better then a MF if you're looking for newman damage so I don't see an issue with them. Besides then they'll just be jabroga tossing enemies all over instead of lagging other players with 41+ spells. ^_^

[Foxy Nicole]

I don't troll! And what is FKL?

[DreXxiN]

Only you would think that porn is epic.

2% or not, it is still there. I will be so happy to play with a masterfighter in any quest that requires something to be shot at (ie switches) and then ask them to do it.

I still stand by my point. Furthermore I dont think highly of any class that just spams anything over and over again, I call them "limited".


Sorry to burst the bubble but I already tested and all the switches in the game (Save missions no one does) can be hit by majarra's second attack or jabroga. ;/

INb4EGGTHEIVESROCKSANDHSMLOLOL.

Oh, and if you can't hit the switches, you just switch to Fortefighter.

Not that I plan on playing either of them regularly, I just know the sad truth of how far tactics go in PSU, lol.

[Zael]

Everybody here knows me?! That's kind of freaky.

Who are you?

[Adriano]

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm46/adrianopsu/MHM.gif

[darkante]

Newman Female FM ay...nah sorry don´t wanna gimp myself and lose alot of progress just to make the game "harder".

And i haven´t really put alot of effort into my Melee skills really, Guns is usually my forte.
No point switching to FM if most of your skills are underdeveloped.

Besides...i like my figurenes too much already. Should be reason enough. =P

[Chuck_Norris]

I don't troll!

Well ya sure as hell ain't making any useful posts.

On topic: No, I won't be making a female newman FM. :disapprove:

[pizzagirl]

I don't troll! And what is FKL?
Fresh Kills Landfill. A section of the forums. 0 post count forum where you can spam n stuff. Oh and lol @ Adriano.

[Finae]

Female Newman FM? Ya b/c I wanna look hot in that guardian formal outfit with my sexy axes if it ever reaches these crappy servers. Then after the hotness goes away, I will go back to my cast F FM who can SUV and hit harder which should be less than mmmm, a hour after I do th at?

Ofcourse, if that outfit was released for female casts, then the answer would definitely be no and she would stay a AT.

[DarkEliteRico]

I wasn't thinking about it until i saw this, my female neuman is an acrotecher/fighter currently but fighmaster would be a good change from my gun toting self on my main

[Seority]

*Throws this in the same pile with CAST techers.*

Next.

[unicorn]

*Throws this in the same pile with CAST techers.*

Next.

Don't be hatin on us CAST techers! Ya just wish your techer had shiney armour! >:0

[Yusaku_Kudou]

*Throws this in the same pile with CAST techers.*

Next.

CAST acrotecher = amazing. Next.

[autumn]

FM owns flying bosses watch until the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ec-earJ2ug

[Genoa]

FM owns flying bosses watch until the end:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ec-earJ2ug

omfg Onmagoug got super fuxed! :D

[Seority]

((Gets forced to say it in detail))
*Throws in same pile with CAST forces/fortetechers/masterforces*

~end.

[unicorn]

((Gets forced to say it in detail))
*Throws in same pile with CAST forces/fortetechers/masterforces*

~end.

Whatever, atleast they don't need stats to make them good gamers! =p

[Neith]

I'd post the pics of big numbers with a Newman fF, but it's been done several times already. While I'm really not a fan of Newman AF/FI, fF is no problem. fF's HP mod offsets the low Newman HP enough to be survivable, and ATP is still good. Fighmaster will be the same. Increased PP cost will suck, but counter that with increased speed and Lv50 Jabroga/Majarra etc... Monsters are gonna die fast, regardless of what race you are :wacko:

I mean seriously, like you even need to play an 'optimal' class in PSU, it's easy enough anyway :lol:

*points to sig*

[Seority]

Yes it's true.
PSU has pissed it's way to being a game you play it the first time only using C rank weaps for 20 hours and you're finished.
Nothing much else to see after that.
So CASTs can go and fire foie at things and pretend they actually help in parties when their party mate the newman force blasts her foie for x5 the damage while healing the party for more then 20 hp and doesn't need a useless force-atp-gimped paradi to actually be useful.

Mostly I can only see newman FM's only advantage is high evp. It is nice to not miss things when you attack, but isn't jabroken at 100% success hit anyway? And when you do hit, you deal the worst damage compaired to all the other races. With that higher EVP you also block more. Nothing is more annoying to a fighter when you're about to jabroga and some damn pannon lightly taps your butt, and you block it. Not only wasting hella pp, but also not dealing damage. (I guess that's a bad example mainly because jabroga should only be used on big / slow / creatures / bosses but we all know that most people will just 'broga spam anyway =P )
If you want higher accuracy, be a CAST. Not only that, but they acctualy deal a lot better damage and you have that wonderful high-atp paradi that is ever so useful.

Sure, go ahead and be special if you don't mind being the worst off player. As I said before, PSU is too easy for anyone to care about stats or even being a good gamer. Hopefully things in the future will change this, but for now, go ahead and spam your mejibrogas while I'll do x3 more damage and be able to take a lot more hits then you as a beast FM.
If we are both happy, what does it matter right? Lol.

[AweOfShe]

No, the EVP is still low, mine is still under 100. FM isn't an EVP class to begin with. MST is like, a lot higher, but we all know MST (just like most base stats) doesn't mean shit anyway. :P

And 3x more damage? That's... a bit of a stretch, but I'm sure you're just exaggerating anyways. :lol:

[Rayokarna]

snip.

>.>;

I think people play the least optimal class/race because they think its fun. Which is always a good thing. Way too many beasts fF, Cast fG & Newman fT anyway.

[Seority]

Hmm, well ok. I guess I just dremt that newmans where just a bit more then just attractive tech-flinging ninnys, but I spose I'm wrong ;><

I know that many people will be doing damage testing so whenever they do come out, we will see just how much damage a female newman FM can do compaired to a male beast/cast FM (capped and such).

Here's some numbars to look at: http://psupedia.info/Fighmaster

So far no female FM's (lol) but from whats there is this.
sex+race: atp/ata/evp/mst
male beast: 1943/568/86/252
female beast: 1873/542/90/263
male cast: 1799/775/71/217
male newman: 1512/724/101/553

Let's just do this by % compaired to the beasts for temparary stats.
female newman: 1457/691/106/577

Seems like you girlies will have the highest evp (I thought so lol) and the lowest atp. You also have the second highest ata for FM, so I suppose that's still you're only plus. (Calculates HP) Yep, you'll have about 757 less hp then Seority would as a FM.
3168 hp is defenitly better then your MF hp of a whopping 1791. Even though this isn't for me, I hope all of you people enjoy the gimpedness that is a fem newman FM. (Just figuring all this out almost makes me just wanna test out the damage xD)
Let's all just have little fun we can on PSU by 'broga spamming the crap out of everything =3

[Seority]

>.>;

I think people play the least optimal class/race because they think its fun. Which is always a good thing. Way too many beasts fF, Cast fG & Newman fT anyway.

I understand this is all for fun. Note PSU is a game, not a career choice ^^
The reason that there are many of those is not because people are non-creative, it's just that they work out the best. Many people enjoy doing the best they can in games just as much as you people who want to be the most unique in them. Just preferable choice.

I made Seo to be a tiny loli girl who swung around big swords and axes and I'm just #245,367th person to think that up on PSU. I eventually got tired of the grudgyness of the fF and went to something more fast paced like AF. Then I found out masterclasses where coming out and my dream was answered. Now I can fly threw the air, propelled by an axe at crazy speeds as a tiny loli beast in a skirt =)

[Neith]

Just consider that 14XX ATP is roughly what a Caseal Fortegunner has at Lv140, and think of how much damage that can do. I think everyone wanting to play a Newman FM knows we'll be weaker than other races, but it'll still be easy to play. With fF on a Newman (Lv115) I can hit 4-5k with Jabroga, which isn't too bad. That's with fairly low % Axes (I should really try with my 42% Zagza). While FM drops a little ATP from fF, factor in Lv50 Jabroga (over fF's Lv40), and increased attack speed.

But yeah, everyone playing Newman melee now, and everyone wanting to be a Newman FM/Cast MF do it for fun. Although admittedly, I have respect for Cast Forces, it's not something I could ever do.

[Connor Bray]

what wepons can the fighmaster use?

[AweOfShe]

I, uh... don't think anyone needs a stat calculator to tell us we're the weakest. I'm sure the game established that upon it's creation. :lol:

But there are some things within the game that will test the level of competency a player has. 'Cause honestly, whether you have 4000 HP, or 3000 HP, that Foie that does 2500 damage ( Fucking buffed level 150 Vanda Orgdas... D: ) is going to kill you in two hits if you don't heal, no matter what race you are. :P

[Seority]

Simple.
Don't get hit by that foie again! xD
It's kinda like getting hit by that foie then smacked by claw for 1000 (some how). I will still survive, and you sadly perish.
But I guess the thing we should both learn is to dodge the foie =)
If anything, you're more resistant to that foie then I am, so I'll dodge the foie as you dodge the claw and hopefully the tech-whatever will come to our rescue xD

@ConnerBay: Click that nifty link I posted before and it will solve all your questions~

[IrisForscythe]

Honestly if your playing a game for numbers and efficiency then your playing for the wrong damn reasons. People should be allowed to have fun and play what they want and NOT be put down for it. It's one of the things that the PSU community does that simply pisses me off.

Newman MF? sure go for it, if you find it fun it's worth doing. Just because they choose a bad class choice doesn't make them bad players, infact if they are just as effective as beasts or casts (and trust me with a correct set up the damage change is very unnoticeable ) then doesn't that make them BETTER players?

I out DPS Beast FF's all the time and I'm just a Neuman WT with a pair of Double Daggers.

[Seority]

When did anyone ever say it's wrong or bad to be a female newman axe flinger?
Arn't games just a bunch of 1 and 0's anyway?
Arn't most Japanese MMOs all about grinding to better numbars?
Why is it so sinfully wrong to want to play a game to be the best when it's perfectly fine to be "unique" or "creative" with it?

[IrisForscythe]

When did anyone ever say it's wrong or bad to be a female newman axe flinger?
Arn't games just a bunch of 1 and 0's anyway?
Arn't most Japanese MMOs all about grinding to better numbars?
Why is it so sinfully wrong to want to play a game to be the best when it's perfectly fine to be "unique" or "creative" with it?

I never said anyone here did. But I have heard it before. Especially on the actual game. Sorry if it seemed like I was bitching at you.

[Cracka_J]

I really don't see what the big draw is here.
You could just as easily play a beast female if all you care about is the clothing access. Basically what it comes down to is your trading in your nanoblast and an atp/dfp boost for pointy ears. That doesn't seem like a fair trade, but whatever floats your boat. You pay for your account, do what you feel like doing.

and edit:

Honestly if your playing a game for numbers and efficiency then your playing for the wrong damn reasons. People should be allowed to have fun and play what they want and NOT be put down for it.

I actually play the game for numbers and efficiency and get my fun out of that. If that's how I enjoy playing it, wtf is wrong with that? This quote is extremely hypocritical, you are saying at one time it's not ok for people to derive enjoyment from efficient play, but at the same time not to put down others for just wanting to have fun. You can't have it both ways.

Anyone deriving any aspect of fun, no matter how they play the game, competitively or casually, should be able to play the game how they want to, and not judged for it.

[AweOfShe]

Simple.
Don't get hit by that foie again! xD
It's kinda like getting hit by that foie then smacked by claw for 1000 (some how). I will still survive, and you sadly perish.
But I guess the thing we should both learn is to dodge the foie =)
If anything, you're more resistant to that foie then I am, so I'll dodge the foie as you dodge the claw and hopefully the tech-whatever will come to our rescue xD


That was the message I was getting across, about competency. If you made a character with some damn legs, having 1000 less HP shouldn't matter. And I still wouldn't get smacked by a claw, because I'm awesome. :P

And Foie was just an example. Zampvas are still assholes that like to tackle everyone for a billion damage all over the stage, and run away at the speed of FUCK YEAH! D:

[IrisForscythe]

That would fit most characters, but Iris isn't normal. She does everything, has access to everything can do EVERYTHING. Just somethings not as good as others.


I really don't see what the big draw is here.
You could just as easily play a beast female if all you care about is the clothing access. Basically what it comes down to is your trading in your nanoblast and an atp/dfp boost for pointy ears. That doesn't seem like a fair trade, but whatever floats your boat. You pay for your account, do what you feel like doing.

and edit:


I actually play the game for numbers and efficiency and get my fun out of that. If that's how I enjoy playing it, wtf is wrong with that? This quote is extremely hypocritical, you are saying at one time it's not ok for people to derive enjoyment from efficient play, but at the same time not to put down others for just wanting to have fun. You can't have it both ways.

Anyone deriving any aspect of fun, no matter how they play the game, competitively or casually, should be able to play the game how they want to, and not judged for it.

Indeed. If thats how you get your fun then more power to you, it's just most people think it has to be one or the other.

[IrisForscythe]

[delete this post]

[Anduril]

I am going to get the requirements for Fighmaster on my Female Newman, but I'll really only play it for shits and giggles.

[ichris]

i also cant wait for the noobs of the 360 serverr, cuz day 1 everyone will be master class thena week later everyone will talk about how much they suck.

also i wouldnt be surprised if cuz they're all noobs and see a big cost on PP and only S ranks, they buy up a huge amount of 10*'s XD

give me my damn gnome back!!!!!

[Seority]

Indeed. If thats how you get your fun then more power to you, it's just most people think it has to be one or the other.

Like you? lol

[unicorn]

Seo doesn't understand ATP/TP.

Newman FT doesnt do 5x more tech damage than CAST. CAST honestly only does around 2/3 the damage. Beast also doesn't do 3x more damage.

And I dunno how you tech, but I'm not using Diga/Foie/Nosdiga most of the time. >_>;

Sure it does add up, but enemies die waaaay to fast that one extra axe swing or foie won't screw up clear time in missions drastically. I don't care if you take pride in doing high numbers in such an easy game.

Hey, if you enjoy playing your optimal classes thats fine. But don't go around bashing other people's choices. If you want that, WoW and FFXII are that way. >>>

My fun does not come from digits. I get my fun from my aesthetics. I don't mind playing with people who want to be optimal choices, so why does it bother you soo much that I play my Focast or Hunewm?

And I dont mind not being as strong as a beast ff or newman ft. I just like looking spiffy.

Ontopic: Newman fighters are sexier than Beast fighters.

[DreXxiN]

Seo doesn't understand ATP/TP.

Newman FT doesnt do 5x more tech damage than CAST. CAST honestly only does around 2/3 the damage. Beast also doesn't do 3x more damage.

And I dunno how you tech, but I'm not using Diga/Foie/Nosdiga most of the time. >_>;

Sure it does add up, but enemies die waaaay to fast that one extra axe swing or foie won't screw up clear time in missions drastically. I don't care if you take pride in doing high numbers in such an easy game.

Hey, if you enjoy playing your optimal classes thats fine. But don't go around bashing other people's choices. If you want that, WoW and FFXII are that way. >>>

My fun does not come from digits. I get my fun from my aesthetics. I don't mind playing with people who want to be optimal choices, so why does it bother you soo much that I play my Focast or Hunewm?

And I dont mind not being as strong as a beast ff or newman ft. I just like looking spiffy.

Ontopic: Newman fighters are sexier than Beast fighters.

I completely respect you playing anything you want, but you seem to kinda "throw it out there" and BRAG because you're "LOLUNIQUE". This is just my observation though.


Newman fighters can still pwn and have high MST which is a plus (which doesn't matter, because the loss of HP is worse than the MST gained, but yeah.

Techers already have a disadvantage and need all the TP they can get to keep up with others. So as a CAST techer, you can be all "Look at me I'm unique and cool!", But your party's going to be like "OH fuck, not this again, not another useless fucking moron who just wants some attention.".

Hey, just being honest here. ;/


I out DPS Beast FF's all the time and I'm just a Neuman WT with a pair of Double Daggers.

LOL. Who the FUCK ARE YOU PLAYING WITH!! XD

[Seority]

Seo doesn't understand ATP/TP.

Newman FT doesnt do 5x more tech damage than CAST. CAST honestly only does around 2/3 the damage. Beast also doesn't do 3x more damage.

And I dunno how you tech, but I'm not using Diga/Foie/Nosdiga most of the time. >_>;

Sure it does add up, but enemies die waaaay to fast that one extra axe swing or foie won't screw up clear time in missions drastically. I don't care if you take pride in doing high numbers in such an easy game.

Hey, if you enjoy playing your optimal classes thats fine. But don't go around bashing other people's choices. If you want that, WoW and FFXII are that way. >>>

My fun does not come from digits. I get my fun from my aesthetics. I don't mind playing with people who want to be optimal choices, so why does it bother you soo much that I play my Focast or Hunewm?

And I dont mind not being as strong as a beast ff or newman ft. I just like looking spiffy.

Ontopic: Newman fighters are sexier than Beast fighters.


I never put anyone down about being a fem newm FM. I just said you have the lowest atp out of all the FMs.
And I was just exaggering with the x# things. For the real points I made, I used real numbers and stats and used some math to make up temporary stats of a fem newm FM. ^^

[Aisha379]

ITT: PSU version of "What kind of music do you like?" thread arguments.


All comes down to preferences. Not to mention equipment, PA, and class levels >>>>>>> innate race stats anyway.

I have no problem with people who try to max out their numbers for the fun of it (Like Cracka J) but anyone who thinks it actually makes a big enough difference to change the outcome of a run significantly, I laugh at.

Seriously, PSU is horrendously easy, unless your trying to solo all the "hard" missions (which, really, are only hard when trying to be solo'd) then number-crunching isn't going to do anything significant.

Oh, also, such fighting like this is very stupid, but entertaining, so feel free to ignore me and continue on for our amusement.

[NDW]

what wepons can the fighmaster use?

Sword
Spear
Double Saber
Axe

My friend is going to make a Newman Failmaster Fighmaster with all :neutral: Kubara knockoff weapons grinded as low as possible. It will be funny to watch him play. :lol:

[unicorn]

I completely respect you playing anything you want, but you seem to kinda "throw it out there" and BRAG because you're "LOLUNIQUE". This is just my observation though.

Techers already have a disadvantage and need all the TP they can get to keep up with others. So as a CAST techer, you can be all "Look at me I'm unique and cool!", But your party's going to be like "OH fuck, not this again, not another useless fucking moron who just wants some attention.".



Tell me where I said I was unique. I don't play for uniqueness. I just play whatever I like because I like it. I can be unique as a Newman, Human, CAST, or Beast. You're just trying to defend your GF and making a moot point and putting words in my mouth.

Techers already have a disadvantage I agree, but who cares? PSU is eeeeasy, any disadvantage is a welcomed one.

And I have NEVER run into a party that didn't want me around. Maybe you just play with bad techers. I dunno. I don't need attention in some MMORPG, I get enough irl. Kthanx.

[darkante]

Sword
Spear
Double Saber
Axe


Let´s see here all IMO...Spear dull Check...Double saber also Dull check...Axe Fun check..Sword A little fun..Check..

Got no stinking claws,twin saber, daggers or anything though! =(
Nah, think i skip FM...sounds really freaking dull.

[Aorre]

Beast FM > Newman FM

That's all there is to it.

PS: I like Newman ears.

[Sexy_Raine]

I really don't see what the big draw is here.
You could just as easily play a beast female if all you care about is the clothing access. Basically what it comes down to is your trading in your nanoblast and an atp/dfp boost for pointy ears. That doesn't seem like a fair trade, but whatever floats your boat. You pay for your account, do what you feel like doing.

and edit:


I actually play the game for numbers and efficiency and get my fun out of that. If that's how I enjoy playing it, wtf is wrong with that? This quote is extremely hypocritical, you are saying at one time it's not ok for people to derive enjoyment from efficient play, but at the same time not to put down others for just wanting to have fun. You can't have it both ways.
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So do I Cracka, who the hell wants a weak main? I sure don't. I have nothing to prove playing something inferior, and don't see the "fun" in it. Why the hell should I slow down my mission hunts? If I really wanted I could be a newman fortegunner and plow through any mission. I just don't feel like it and don't need to prove it. There's no reward for being something inferior. Maybe if there were unique items to gain than maybe I'd see a point to it, and please don't say Creas!!! If the damage gap wasn't that huge, then maybe it wouldn't be too bad. And I could care less about looks, ANA is butt ugly, but does fighter good enough to be useful in a group. That's all that matters.

I'll make a deal though, if Sega decides to give us newman a special or something unique where I'm not completely outdone by the Beast or Cast in the next expansion(if there is one), then I will play Acrofigher or Figunner. I promise.

[unicorn]

. No you fail and are cleary only doing it b/c ur an attention whore.

I don't see how someone's race immediately makes them fail. Check out some numbers some HUnewms have pulled out and talk about fail.

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Different strokes for different folks! I noticed some people get violently angry in this game about something soooooooo stupid. Its retardly amusing.

Some people play for numbers, some for chatting, some for looks, at the end of the day, you're still PLAYING. Let people play their own damn game.

If I decide to shove $10 dollars a month into my FOcast's ass, then lemme be. I promise to do my best in your party with my 31+ techs okay? If you don't like it, replace with with a Foie/Diga spamming techer. Whatever. -_-

I can't believe I'm still arguing this. I'll shut up now, forum stubborness is uncurable. *disappears*

[DreXxiN]

Tell me where I said I was unique. I don't play for uniqueness. I just play whatever I like because I like it. I can be unique as a Newman, Human, CAST, or Beast. You're just trying to defend your GF and making a moot point and putting words in my mouth.

Techers already have a disadvantage I agree, but who cares? PSU is eeeeasy, any disadvantage is a welcomed one.

And I have NEVER run into a party that didn't want me around. Maybe you just play with bad techers. I dunno. I don't need attention in some MMORPG, I get enough irl. Kthanx.


That's very funny that you tell me I'm just blatently agreeing with her because "She's my GF and I'm defending her olol" When if you search elsewhere in the forums., you can tell we are very differently opinionated when it comes to this gane, Nice assumption though. For someone trying to be so different on PSU, you sure throw me into a pot of unoriginality as far as handling relationships go on the webz. lol.


Seriously, I just don't see a point of having such a weak techer (Cast), though I do thing mine looks pretty badass when I'm leveling techs on it. >_>

[Neith]

So do I Cracka, who the hell wants a weak main? I sure don't.

I stopped reading there. This is a wrong assumption (that a lot of people have). Newman FM (or even fF) is not necessarily weak- they are still extremely strong, just less than other races. I think we've all firmly established that the people playing Newman FM (or any 'gimped' job/race combination for that matter) know that our LOLDPS is lower than other races. Does it even really matter? No.

I solo maybe 2-3 minutes slower than a Beast fF of equal level/job. I don't really consider it slow. In a party, I can keep up with anyone else- contrary to popular belief, Newman melee characters don't hit a monster and then go cower in the corner. It's extremely easy to play (the only mission I have any trouble soloing is Bladed Legacy S2, because of a) Bead Groodes are a pain in the ass b) Magashi army. Any other mission is fair game or not a challenge.

If you guys are happy playing for stats, and DPS, and all of that scene, then great, go ahead. It doesn't make you any better players though. Statwise, yes, but in a game that is so easy already, stats barely matter.

For the record, I have a Caseal Fortegunner, so I DO play 'optimum' classes as well.

[DreXxiN]

I stopped reading there. This is a wrong assumption (that a lot of people have). Newman FM (or even fF) is not necessarily weak- they are still extremely strong, just less than other races. I think we've all firmly established that the people playing Newman FM (or any 'gimped' job/race combination for that matter) know that our LOLDPS is lower than other races. Does it even really matter? No.

I solo maybe 2-3 minutes slower than a Beast fF of equal level/job. I don't really consider it slow. In a party, I can keep up with anyone else- contrary to popular belief, Newman melee characters don't hit a monster and then go cower in the corner. It's extremely easy to play (the only mission I have any trouble soloing is Bladed Legacy S2, because of a) Bead Groodes are a pain in the ass b) Magashi army. Any other mission is fair game or not a challenge.

If you guys are happy playing for stats, and DPS, and all of that scene, then great, go ahead. It doesn't make you any better players though. Statwise, yes, but in a game that is so easy already, stats barely matter.

For the record, I have a Caseal Fortegunner, so I DO play 'optimum' classes as well.


My main character is human and make him my favorite looking and most fun character I can. My others (Like the TA leaderboard CAST) are ones I use sheerly for getting shit done.

I see where Luu's coming from, but any game where you need to GIMP your capabilities to make the game difficult is a fail game IMO.

[Arika]

why does one always try to force individual opinion into different one?
Well, just play with whoever you please, play whatever class you want.
I play every classes on my main xD
and I m sure, no matter what classes you be, if you are a pro, then you play better than noob with optimum class anyway.

[Seority]

How about we all just play?
Noob/pro/elitest/whatever.

[Cracka_J]

Just for clarification Neith, I know you never directed your comments toward me, but I just wanted to make sure you got my real point across about me not caring. The way I play the game is the way I play it, I don't think I've ever, or ever will try to force that on someone (strangely enough this is my same stance on religion lulz).

But I think you probably got that already by reading my earlier post. Just wanted to make sure because I'm fucking Switzerland in this shit.

Really though, back on semi-topic, nobody ever answered my question as to why people pick this combo. As I said earlier, the only noticeable tradeoff is pointy ears for a nano/atp/dfp reduction. I just don't get why people would give all that up for such a slight visual feature? So I think a lot of people are getting confused as to why some are picking that combination.

The only semi-logical explanation, from my point of view, is that people leveled their characters in the "suggested" types, got bored of the type and switched to something else more fitting for their personal playstyle. Now that's fine. I played human fT for over a year before aoi allowed PA swapping and I could level a proper newman fT. I guess what I'm saying, is with the ability to PA swap AND piles of event EXP, there's really no reason not to have an optimized race/class combo. But then again, it could all just be in good fun, and be as simple as "I want pointy ears". Which really translates to "I want my character to look and play exactly how I want, regardless of stats." If that's the bottom line, I'm perfectly fine with it.

[Rayokarna]

EDIT: Scratch that

After reading Cracka post, I agree with the "I want my character to look and play exactly how I want, regardless of stats.". Coming from CAST FT/WT/PT.

Nothing wrong with a class/race combo if you play it well.

[Neith]

Just for clarification Neith, I know you never directed your comments toward me, but I just wanted to make sure you got my real point across about me not caring. The way I play the game is the way I play it, I don't think I've ever, or ever will try to force that on someone (strangely enough this is my same stance on religion lulz).

Oh yeah, I don't have a problem with people like you who play optimal, the only reason I'm even voicing my opinion in this topic is because a lot of people could potentially be tricked into thinking Newmans can't melee, which isn't exactly true. As long as you understand that you WILL be worse off statwise than other races, and can adapt your playstyle to suit, it's a very viable option.



The only semi-logical explanation, from my point of view, is that people leveled their characters in the "suggested" types, got bored of the type and switched to something else more fitting for their personal playstyle. Now that's fine. I played human fT for over a year before aoi allowed PA swapping and I could level a proper newman fT. I guess what I'm saying, is with the ability to PA swap AND piles of event EXP, there's really no reason not to have an optimized race/class combo. But then again, it could all just be in good fun, and be as simple as "I want pointy ears". Which really translates to "I want my character to look and play exactly how I want, regardless of stats." If that's the bottom line, I'm perfectly fine with it.

You pretty much just described exactly what I've gone through on PSU. As many of you know, my first character was a Beast fF. I got her to Lv130 (when that was the cap), and got very, very bored. I didn't really find it fun with how overpowered the class was, and as time went on I went off Beasts as a whole. I decided that I'd try a Newman melee character (following what I played on PSO), and it didn't work out at first. Bear in mind this was in v1, so it was a bit tougher. After playing my gunner as main for a long time, I decided to give Newman melee another shot, and I love it. Part of the reason I like it is (as stupid as it sounds) the looks. Newmans have always been my favourite race, even in PSO. If I can melee with a Newman and get away with it, I'll do it.

I guess I've always been a firm believer in looks over stats- if I don't like the look of a character, I won't play it. I think it's pretty pointless to sit and argue over whether it's pointless or not to play a 'gimped' class, because everyone is just going to have drastically different views on it.

[Dragwind]

Let's try to keep this on-topic about the roll call folks.

[IrisForscythe]

EDIT: Scratch that

After reading Cracka post, I agree with the "I want my character to look and play exactly how I want, regardless of stats.". Coming from CAST FT/WT/PT.

Nothing wrong with a class/race combo if you play it well.

Quoted for truth.

ON Topic: As Iris can do everything Fighmaster is totally an option (And will likely happen)

[Seority]

Yes, Iris can do everything!

Even fail! LOLOLOLOL
~jk~nr~

[Kyecsrai]

Really though, back on semi-topic, nobody ever answered my question as to why people pick this combo. As I said earlier, the only noticeable tradeoff is pointy ears for a nano/atp/dfp reduction. I just don't get why people would give all that up for such a slight visual feature? So I think a lot of people are getting confused as to why some are picking that combination.

I do it for the lulz. The fact that it really seems to irritate some people is just an added bonus.