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HeY_iTz_LiNxX
Oct 13, 2008, 10:45 AM
Ok....I went to go grind some weapons. Ihad my Cast at 3* Luck and I was using S+10's. I had already gotten 2 weapons to 5/10. So i figured I was doing good...Until I went to grind a Mugunruk. It broke on the 2nd grind like 2 times, so I fed it to my bot. Then i bought another dark one, and it broke on the first grind....Is there any pattern that is used? I'm on the Xbox 360 if that means anything.

sephiroth115
Oct 13, 2008, 10:52 AM
A few of us have a theory that only using +10 anything makes the item "used to it" so it will break. I don't know if agree 100% with that theory, cause I got a chao 10/10 like that. But I have found that if you start with like a +3 or +4 and then maybe a +8 then so on that you have a better chance. I got 2 10/10 chaos by using A+3, 4-A+7, 3-A+9, and 2-A+10. I also had a P-Wand that broke @ 2/10 trying to go into the 3rd grind that I only used +10s on
P.S. Btw I'm also on 360

RedRaz0r
Oct 13, 2008, 11:00 AM
10/10 chaos aren't that big of a deal, S weapons have a better chance of braking...


I personally think it is all just luck, there isn't any pattern.

I have made 10/10 weapons using only +10s, and I have using a bunch of different ones.

sephiroth115
Oct 13, 2008, 11:05 AM
Lower rank items are overated for breaking. I broke 4 pumpkinheads in a row, during the grind boost, with 3* luck, and only used C+10s

RedRaz0r
Oct 13, 2008, 11:23 AM
Lower rank items are overated for breaking. I broke 4 pumpkinheads in a row, during the grind boost, with 3* luck, and only used C+10s

thats just sad...

2* luck, took 2 rappy tips (no grinding bonus) to 10, and i only have +7 and +9s

WHlTEKNIGHT
Oct 13, 2008, 12:01 PM
its all random.... like rolling dice on each grind. All these people who think that you have to have a set plan on grinding are wrong.
There is even a few charts around that show the odds of sucess on each grind.

DAMASCUS
Oct 13, 2008, 12:01 PM
If I find a pattern of grinders that works and stick to it I usually can get a lot of weapons up to decent levels with minimal breakage.

If I start using different grinders or move to a different shop( Yohmei hates you ) I start getting a lot more breaks.

sephiroth115
Oct 13, 2008, 02:17 PM
thats just sad...

2* luck, took 2 rappy tips (no grinding bonus) to 10, and i only have +7 and +9sIts not sad its unfair. Btw, not trying to flame, but why do you always seem so negative to others in posts?

SStrikerR
Oct 13, 2008, 02:24 PM
No, he's right, that is pretty sad that whoever did that has that much shitty luck. And he's only negative if you read his post from the...hmm..angle that makes it seem negative. You aren't liking your luck, so anyone with some nice luck that manages to accomplish something obviously is being rude to you. My grinding pattern is using a +1, then a +3, then a +6 or 7, then +10s the rest of the way. I also grind the first 2 on any day, even with no luck.

Mikura
Oct 13, 2008, 02:51 PM
It's all completely random. I just wing it every time I grind something and use what I think is appropriate at the time (Meaning I have no grinding method or pattern whatsoever).

Cracka_J
Oct 13, 2008, 03:08 PM
here ya go, use these charts.
they are all, as already stated, just probabilities.
you are tossing the dice everytime you grind and it's not guaranteed. there are no gimmicks, tricks, or mass replies to chain mails that will make your grinding luck any better.

Enjoy!
http://psupedia.info/Weapon_grinding

DarthLasek
Oct 13, 2008, 03:46 PM
What i usually do is use any junk grinders for the no failure grind...then ill use +7's and 8s until 5 or 6....then ill use 8s and 9s until 8..sometimes 9....ALWAYS use +10 on 10th grind.......works wayy better on A weps for me...i dont really have balls on S ranks ....only got 1 S rank to 10

Dark Emerald EXE
Oct 13, 2008, 03:53 PM
Eh the only pattern i've tried (worked quite well) is get an item you really dont care for and the item you want grinded....basically grind the unwanted item until it breaks...when it breaks grind the weapon u wanted grinded once....then grind the unwanted weapon until it breaks and repeat the process

On some days that actually works although i rarely do it.
My highest success on that was a 8/8 20% ice blackheart
I havent done that pattern in a month tho so who knows.

SStrikerR
Oct 13, 2008, 04:28 PM
There are no patterns, that's just your luck.

Don't make me break my hammer out.

BIGGIEstyle
Oct 13, 2008, 07:31 PM
If I find a pattern of grinders that works and stick to it I usually can get a lot of weapons up to decent levels with minimal breakage.

If I start using different grinders or move to a different shop( Yohmei hates you ) I start getting a lot more breaks.

Maybe for you. I can't get the Kubara Bitches to grind ANYTHING well.

I've taken 5 yamata misakis to 4/10 with S+1s but my Kubara stuff breaks on the second or third grinds with S+7-9s.

It's all luck

sephiroth115
Oct 13, 2008, 07:49 PM
Kubara can go either way. I usually use the guy on the right. He just got my Gaozoran to 8/10

Cracka_J
Oct 14, 2008, 08:06 AM
Kubara can go either way. I usually use the guy on the right. He just got my Gaozoran to 8/10

The guy on the right aka "the grinding pimp". My psycho wands know him well :D

sephiroth115
Oct 14, 2008, 08:33 AM
The guy on the right aka "the grinding pimp". My psycho wands know him well :DLmao, nice. never heard him called that before. He has been better to me then the other guy there :p

ichris
Oct 14, 2008, 11:28 AM
there is no pattern whatsoever. It's random. /end topic

Cracka_J
Oct 14, 2008, 11:36 AM
Lmao, nice. never heard him called that before. He has been better to me then the other guy there :p

While I agree, it's all just coincidence. The guy on the left did my friends 10/10 repca, so it really doesn't matter.

I just call him that cause he did a helluva job on my grinds. I did 17 consecutive grinds with the guy on the right during the grind boost to cap 3 5/8 pwands and 2 5/9 pwands, all in a row. I realize it was all luck but I felt I shoulda taken a trip to the casino after that streak :D

oooFokkerooo
Oct 14, 2008, 06:40 PM
I agree with Damascus... seems like if you switch shops your luck gets worse.
S weapons are THE most fragile.
Seems like once you break it once the chances of failing again on that weapon go way up.

Of course I'm sure it's all COMPLETELY random but you'll find a system that makes YOU feel luckiest.

WHlTEKNIGHT
Oct 16, 2008, 02:57 AM
They break more because the success rate is lower on each grind compared to A ranks. :)

BIGGIEstyle
Oct 16, 2008, 04:26 AM
The grinding Pimp and his knock-off brother are both evil men.

I can say the pimp did his job getting my Bico to 10/10, but after that he saw fit to break every single damn S rank I gave him going to 3/x until I got frustrated and logged out.

They hate me for some reason.

Majarra
Oct 16, 2008, 03:25 PM
I heard some people saying if you grind once a day it removes some stress and can give it a better chance.

WHlTEKNIGHT
Oct 17, 2008, 10:01 AM
also heard if you use your hairy hand that will relieve the stress as well.

sephiroth115
Oct 17, 2008, 10:14 AM
some believe the once a day. I personally marathon grind: where it stops no one knows. and for those that get 1/1s and 2/2s i have no idea what you do wrong, the lowest i've gotten marathon grinding is 6/6