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DUN
Jan 26, 2009, 12:47 PM
Because it would be awsome to have with my pallet right now that or the holy ray so if any one knows anything about them it would be helpful:]

Alnet
Jan 26, 2009, 12:49 PM
The first time it will be available is the Darkness event we have coming up. It drops from Dark Falz LV150. That event is a ways off, though, so be patient.

DUN
Jan 26, 2009, 12:51 PM
ok:/ thank you i guess ill suffer with 3 rattlesnakes till then

EspioKaos
Jan 26, 2009, 12:54 PM
The first time it will be available is the Darkness event we have coming up. It drops from Dark Falz LV150. That event is a ways off, though, so be patient.

Falz is not a boss during that event.

The board for Killer Elite was added to Falz's drop chart during MAG+, the first time it reached LV150. Likewise, it'll be available in The Dark God S2 when that releases over here.

WHlTEKNIGHT
Jan 26, 2009, 01:07 PM
Falz is not a boss during that event.

The board for Killer Elite was added to Falz's drop chart during MAG+, the first time it reached LV150. Likewise, it'll be available in The Dark God S2 when that releases over here.

Didnt it drop in the 2nd festa event before then though?

stukasa
Jan 26, 2009, 01:16 PM
ok:/ thank you i guess ill suffer with 3 rattlesnakes till then
"Suffer with 3 Rattlesnakes"? I know a few people who would be happy to "suffer" with you! :lol:

Calsetes
Jan 26, 2009, 01:26 PM
If you're on the PC servers I'd be glad to relieve you of your suffering and take one of those off your hands for you........ WINK!

EspioKaos
Jan 26, 2009, 01:47 PM
Didnt it drop in the 2nd festa event before then though?

Ah, you're right. Forgot about that one. Thanks!

Sexy_Raine
Jan 26, 2009, 02:13 PM
For us it'll be Dark God S2, since events take forever to come to us. I'm training Rising Prism to 50 just for this mission.

chu-chu-chu
Jan 26, 2009, 02:52 PM
For it'll be Dark God S2, since events take forever to come to us. I'm training Rising Prism to 50 just for this mission.can you do the mission if you dont? because i'm not a mastergunner.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 26, 2009, 03:44 PM
For us it'll be Dark God S2, since events take forever to come to us. I'm training Rising Prism to 50 just for this mission.
This.... Currently my highest prism is rising(lvl 28 ) the rest are 21+ but im workin on it :P


Lets see all we need are killer elites and shigga pakuda and my GM pallette would be all 12* ^^

Alnet
Jan 26, 2009, 05:37 PM
Falz is not a boss during that event.

The board for Killer Elite was added to Falz's drop chart during MAG+, the first time it reached LV150. Likewise, it'll be available in The Dark God S2 when that releases over here.
/slaps myself on the wrist for spreading false information

/vows to be more careful next time

LuigiMario
Jan 26, 2009, 07:55 PM
This.... Currently my highest prism is rising(lvl 28 ) the rest are 21+ but im workin on it :P


Lets see all we need are killer elites and shigga pakuda and my GM pallette would be all 12* ^^

And What about Shigga Pakuda?

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 26, 2009, 08:56 PM
This.... Currently my highest prism is rising(lvl 28 ) the rest are 21+ but im workin on it :P


Lets see all we need are killer elites and shigga pakuda and my GM pallette would be all 12* ^^


And What about Shigga Pakuda?
I mention pakuda already >_<

Delete
Jan 26, 2009, 09:59 PM
Im the one who started the whole, gunners getting screwed thing, (look at my forgetting fortegunners thread) and look, months later and still no new gunner weapons while beast and techers are getting stuff here and there. WTF.

Namine
Jan 26, 2009, 11:05 PM
We got 12 star twin handguns last month.

Chuck_Norris
Jan 27, 2009, 12:08 AM
Besides, gear hardly matters. Have you seen the kinda damage gunners can pull off?

autumn
Jan 27, 2009, 12:54 AM
Agrees with above ^

Besides gunners aren't the only ones who don't have huge amounts of variety in good weapons.

EMPYREAN
Jan 27, 2009, 05:18 AM
We got 12 star twin handguns last month.

then we r missing single handgun, xbow,bow(little unshure if we have it or not),rifle,granadegun,shotty,laser,card(?).....hav e i forgotten something??

and kubara stuff is not an option.

so get to work and give us the guns segac and not w8 another year be4 giving it to us.

LuigiMario
Jan 27, 2009, 08:42 AM
Besides, damage hardly matters. Have you seen how gunners look with them new S rank guns?

This is damn true.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 27, 2009, 08:44 AM
This is damn true.

Depending on the twin PA (most are 31+) I can hit bout 900-1000 per shot
I'm lovin battlestoppers ^^

amtalx
Jan 27, 2009, 09:16 AM
then we r missing single handgun, xbow,bow(little unshure if we have it or not),rifle,granadegun,shotty,laser,card(?).....hav e i forgotten something??

and kubara stuff is not an option.

so get to work and give us the guns segac and not w8 another year be4 giving it to us.

Umm... We have a 13* Handgun, 12* Bow, 13* Shotgun, and 12* Laser Cannon. Seriously, stop complaining gunners. Its not as bad as it used to be. The only group of classes that has any right to complain are techers really.

LuigiMario
Jan 27, 2009, 10:20 AM
Umm... We have a 13* Handgun, 12* Bow, 13* Shotgun, and 12* Laser Cannon. Seriously, stop complaining gunners. Its not as bad as it used to be. The only group of classes that has any right to complain are techers really.

VERY few people have the handgun which no one cares about since it's only a trade item to everyone. 12* bow is ONLY for techers/transers and he might not be a GUNtecher or a protranser. 13* Shotgun is not within the 99mil price range unless is its broken (6/6 is rare and 5/5 and below are overpriced) and the 12* Laser Cannon (Kubara version is crap) is EXTREMELY rare and only drops for one week and is NEVER within 99mil price range unless broken beyond recognition. A casual player can only have one of these, 2 if he lucky, 3 if he's ebays.

Delete
Jan 27, 2009, 10:37 AM
We got 12 star twin handguns last month.

OOps, forgot that one.

amtalx
Jan 27, 2009, 11:08 AM
VERY few people have the handgun which no one cares about since it's only a trade item to everyone. 12* bow is ONLY for techers/transers and he might not be a GUNtecher or a protranser. 13* Shotgun is not within the 99mil price range unless is its broken (6/6 is rare and 5/5 and below are overpriced) and the 12* Laser Cannon (Kubara version is crap) is EXTREMELY rare and only drops for one week and is NEVER within 99mil price range unless broken beyond recognition. A casual player can only have one of these, 2 if he lucky, 3 if he's ebays.

So you're saying casual players should have a full pallet of the best weapons available for bargain bin prices? :???: I think not. Let's just cut out the middle man and sell everything up to 12* from the NPC.

LuigiMario
Jan 27, 2009, 11:12 AM
So you're saying casual players should have a full pallet of the best weapons available for bargain bin prices? :???: I think not. Let's just cut out the middle man and sell everything up to 12* from the NPC.

I'm telling you that most people can't afford these things much less see them in shops or even see them drop.

Calsetes
Jan 27, 2009, 11:31 AM
Wow. Lots of arguing.


I'm just happy I managed to pick up a shigga baret board for 6 mil (thus making me poverty level once again), and I'm considering myself lucky that I found it for that cheap. Now all I need is one of them thar Rattlesnakes (or Rattlers if you're from Texas). Also, what's this laser cannon you speak of? The Love Inferno? I plan on hunting one if I can this year, just because it fits with my gunner character. Same thing with the Madam Brella, if I can.

Also, I personally say heck with the stats on a weapon, unless there's a ginormous difference that I care about. I'm happy with my Protranser having this bad mamma jamma here (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/1/1608/kohibumiteri/). I do have a Hirokteri board, in case I decide to give up being special though.

GreenArcher
Jan 27, 2009, 11:44 AM
VERY few people have the handgun which no one cares about since it's only a trade item to everyone. 12* bow is ONLY for techers/transers and he might not be a GUNtecher or a protranser. 13* Shotgun is not within the 99mil price range unless is its broken (6/6 is rare and 5/5 and below are overpriced) and the 12* Laser Cannon (Kubara version is crap) is EXTREMELY rare and only drops for one week and is NEVER within 99mil price range unless broken beyond recognition. A casual player can only have one of these, 2 if he lucky, 3 if he's ebays.

I care about that handgun, it's a great handgun. Not to mention it will lead to the best twin handguns in the game.

Guntechers are gunners too.

13* Shotgun was within everyone's price range, not once but twice. All you had to do was work for it.

Love Inferno actually dropped for a bit more than a week :)

The casual player could have the Nasuyoteri, but what casual player has Psycho Wands, Agito Repcas and the like?

LuigiMario
Jan 27, 2009, 12:33 PM
I care about that handgun, it's a great handgun. Not to mention it will lead to the best twin handguns in the game.

Guntechers are gunners too.

13* Shotgun was within everyone's price range, not once but twice. All you had to do was work for it.

Love Inferno actually dropped for a bit more than a week :)

The casual player could have the Nasuyoteri, but what casual player has Psycho Wands, Agito Repcas and the like?

Casual players complained during MAG about aquiring the spread needle. That say something.....

amtalx
Jan 27, 2009, 01:52 PM
The SNGs were a reward. You generally don't get rewarded with one of the most powerful weapons in the game for being 'casual'... I understand casual players need to have fun, but they also need to understand that you aren't going to get the best stuff if you don't work for it. I'm on of them. I only play a few hours a week, but I don't complain that I don't have top notch equipment because I don't deserve it. The players that drown themselves in 30+ hours a week do.

EMPYREAN
Jan 27, 2009, 02:24 PM
Let's just cut out the middle man and sell everything up to 12* from the NPC.

thats the way it should have been from day 1 yes, when the result of the current system is that a 11* non kubara in player shops sells from 4 mill upp to 50 mill ungrinded depending on how easy they r to find and how popular the wep is.

Calsetes
Jan 27, 2009, 02:55 PM
This is what I think, and it might just be me saying this.....

If they had 12 star weapons in the shop (as in NPC shops), that'd be cool if (and I mean only if) they were not as good as synthesized weapons. For example, you could buy.... we'll say a Sweet Death from the NPC shop, but it'd either be neutral element (thus not as good because it has no element), or it has a random element on it but it'd be a "base" Sweet Death. One that I synthesize rom my PM will have the element I specify, and it'll have a random bonus to it (like....... 50 more ATP, or 30 more ATA, or an extra 100 PP or something).

That way, people who don't have all this money that people say is easy to get (which I STILL don't see, even being over 100 and having threats of my room being taken in lieu of a box on the colony's first floor) can afford the "better" weapons, and people who synthesize them will have a reason to synthesize them still (because I know I'll gladly take a weapon with more ATP for a little bit more). Then again, this probably would require such an extensive overhaul of the current synthesizing system that it's completely impractical, so it'll stay a small tiny minuscule dream of mine, and I'll just drool over the stats of some cool weapons I want through the store search function.

LuigiMario
Jan 27, 2009, 03:32 PM
The SNGs were a reward. You generally don't get rewarded with one of the most powerful weapons in the game for being 'casual'... I understand casual players need to have fun, but they also need to understand that you aren't going to get the best stuff if you don't work for it. I'm on of them. I only play a few hours a week, but I don't complain that I don't have top notch equipment because I don't deserve it. The players that drown themselves in 30+ hours a week do.

Well, no one liked the fact that you had to be one of the top 500 whores to get a Spread Needle.

Tetsaru
Jan 27, 2009, 03:33 PM
Although I agree that higher-grade weapons need to be earned, I still think gunners have had to deal with the most BS things about their weapons for a while:

Rattlesnake - Although I hear they're dropping from the Lightning Carnival now, this gun was released very early in the game's lifetime, but only dropped from one mission (which can be very annoying, if not prepared sufficiently), and most people didn't have one until AotI came out to influence the drop rates. We still haven't gotten a better rifle yet.

Shigga Baret - Same as Rattlesnake, although Bladed Legacy has also made them more common now. We still had to wait on the drops fix due to Segac constantly fucking up everything... >_<

Spread Needle/G - This one was one of the worst: spam C runs of the same damned mission over and over again for weeks and hope your kill count is high enough to be up there with the people who are carbon-bonded to their gaming consoles day in and day out. The second time MAG came around, I actually grinded like crazy for one and managed to eventually get on the leaderboards... then real life kicked in, and I had to move back into my dorm during the last week of the event. My internet connection wasn't working and I had marching band rehearsals to worry about, and thus I fell off the leaderboards because I couldn't keep my kill count up. I ended up having to trade an arm and a leg just for a 4/4 one, and miraculously received another one from a friend who quit. I traded off the 4/4 one a while back...

Love Inferno - This thing was only available for like... a WEEK (wasn't there a server issue of some sort at the time as well...?), and had a horrible drop rate, not to mention you had to hunt down and find the Jaggo Amures that dropped it. I hunted all week for it and only found 4 Van Brellas. I call hax to whoever managed to get more than 1 during the first few days... I just hope that this year, now that we have PF, they'll be easier to find, but hopefully not whored out too much.

Milla - It's a handgun, and it's only usable by females. That alone should be reason enough to not to mess with it, but the fact that you have to spam a 4 block mission (Sakura Blast) in which you have to wait until the end to see if the damned "Jigoboomas" (lol Segac translations) even show up in the first place and then /facepalm as they all drop Cactachairs is a major pain in the ass. We still don't have access to Guld, the Twin Grip, or even the Arms' Dealer yet. The Guld & Milla better be a damned good set of twin handguns, because any smart GM/FG doesn't even use twin handguns anymore...

Robopitch Grenade/C - It looks cool until you notice that you need a whole gold coin to get it. I have horrible luck gambling, so I had to visit the casino, get a coin, deposit it, and leave, EVERY FUCKING DAY...and once you finally DO get it, it's annoying as fuck, not to mention the Gur Asted is stronger. Better take advantage of the casino coins bonus while you can.

I don't think techers can bitch as much because most of their weapons/items drop from normal enemies or as area drops, and were often whored out during events like the Neudaiz GBR:

Pushan - Probably the only one that's worth a gripe, since it isn't available anymore. However, it was a helluva lot easier to get than SN/G: save up badges, and simply trade em in.

Psycho Wand - Area drop. I have yet to see one drop myself, but I see enough of them in circulation that they apparently aren't TOO hard to obtain. Sleeping Warriors is a pretty easy mission anyway.

Okarod, Tesbra, Granahodorac, Har/Quick - all whored out during the Neudaiz GBR. Har/Smart too, to an extent. Granahodorac is just annoying to synth due to the lack of Paurals available right now.

Gaozoran Rod - one of the harder ones to get, but it was still available during MAG. Also an enemy drop, NOT a boss drop.

Kazarod - I hardly ever see any of these around (drops from Zoalgoug boss, iirc), but there's not much point when Okarod and Psycho Wand are both better and in higher circulation.

Afaik, techers have yet to receive a weapon that doesn't involve a convoluted method, balancing issue, or retarded screw-up on Segac's part to obtain. =/

amtalx
Jan 27, 2009, 03:47 PM
Well, no one liked the fact that you had to be one of the top 500 whores to get a Spread Needle.

We should be able to hunt them in...some undetermined amount of time, but the drop rate is horrendous. I can pretty much gaurantee that you would spend less time getting on the tail end of the MAG leaderboard than trying to get a real one to drop.

Historically, rangers have been ruthlessly abused with low drop rates, but that hasn't been much of an issue for the last 6 months or so, or even since v1. Between random events and GBRs, there is little you can't get your hands on for some effort and money.

Calsetes
Jan 27, 2009, 03:53 PM
I will admit that gunners and techers do have it worse off than melee classes, only because whenever I shell out tons of money for something, it's usually for a gun that I can't seem to find ANYWHERE. I know trying to get my hands on a Degahna board is incredibly impossible, did maybe 50 runs or so with a friend and we still haven't seen one drop, and that's even an A-rank board. The only melee weapons I've spent a ton on were......... actually, I don't think I've spent over like 3 mil for a sword, saber, or twin saber (since they're the only weapons my main uses).

Chuck_Norris
Jan 27, 2009, 04:18 PM
I will admit that gunners and techers do have it worse off than melee classes, only because whenever I shell out tons of money for something, it's usually for a gun that I can't seem to find ANYWHERE. I know trying to get my hands on a Degahna board is incredibly impossible, did maybe 50 runs or so with a friend and we still haven't seen one drop, and that's even an A-rank board. The only melee weapons I've spent a ton on were......... actually, I don't think I've spent over like 3 mil for a sword, saber, or twin saber (since they're the only weapons my main uses).

Just go and try to buy a high % S rank spear. I dare ya to find one over 40% in shops at all.

ThEoRy
Jan 27, 2009, 04:18 PM
Because it would be awsome to have with my pallet right now that or the holy ray so if any one knows anything about them it would be helpful:]

What's more helpful is paying attention in class. Your butchering of the English language is abhorrent.

Calsetes
Jan 27, 2009, 04:32 PM
Just go and try to buy a high % S rank spear. I dare ya to find one over 40% in shops at all.

I don't really use spears, or try for a high percentage weapon until I have the money to spare, which is probably why I haven't spent a lot on a melee weapon. I'm just not a big "spear" fan (though I do use them on my PT, and did pick up 2 20%-ish ones for cheap while I used fighmaster for a bit, but they still weren't expensive).

That might be one of the reasons why guns are so much more expensive than melee weapons - because a gun is a gun, and level X bullet gives XX percent element, no matter what rank of gun it is.

Sexy_Raine
Jan 27, 2009, 05:41 PM
Ok, time for me the add my opinion. Gunner drops are fine the way they are since they're more dedicated than any melee type. I hate seeing some scrub who barely plays gunner with the highest * rated guns.

Real gunners dedicated to their type will have the more impressive equipment, the way it should be.

LuigiMario
Jan 27, 2009, 06:13 PM
Fine as in how often they drop or whom they drop from?

As for the Milla and S. Needle plus the Love Inferno, try aquiring those weapons and the materials to make the Inferno and tell me about it. You have untill April for the Milla and the Inferno and the end of the colony GBR for the S. Needle.

Good Luck

PS: EVERYTHING must be found.


Ok, time for me the add my opinion. Gunner drops are fine the way they are since they're more dedicated than any melee type. I hate seeing some scrub who barely plays gunner with the highest * rated guns.

Real gunners dedicated to their type will have the more impressive equipment, the way it should be.

Fine as in how often they drop or whom they drop from?

As for the Milla and S. Needle plus the Love Inferno, try aquiring those weapons and the materials to make the Inferno and tell me about it. You have untill April for the Milla and the Inferno and the end of the colony GBR for the S. Needle.

Good Luck

PS: EVERYTHING must be found.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 27, 2009, 06:23 PM
The SNGs were a reward. You generally don't get rewarded with one of the most powerful weapons in the game for being 'casual'... I understand casual players need to have fun, but they also need to understand that you aren't going to get the best stuff if you don't work for it. I'm on of them. I only play a few hours a week, but I don't complain that I don't have top notch equipment because I don't deserve it. The players that drown themselves in 30+ hours a week do.


This

I'm very satisfyied with my gunmaster weapons
Rattlesnake 7/7
Blackbull 7/7
Battlestoper 8/8,9/9
Shigga Barec 9/9
Ryusaikanoh 9/9

yea i wanted to to get a SN/G during MAG(even the second time) but i didnt have the time to play to play 24/7 o.o yes i said it....in reality....you had to play most of the day just to stay in the top 500 and i didnt have the time.

I'll get one eventually tho.....(Hoping for 7/7)


Fine as in how often they drop or whom they drop from?

As for the Milla and S. Needle plus the Love Inferno, try aquiring those weapons and the materials to make the Inferno and tell me about it. You have untill April for the Milla and the Inferno and the end of the colony GBR for the S. Needle.

Good Luck

PS: EVERYTHING must be found.
Well ive grown to love gunners.

And i've learned over my couple of months (bout 4-5) of gunning....you can have the strongest weapon and still do crappy damage w/o high leveled PAs

I notice this when i saw this guy with a Spread Needle /G think it was 8/8. And i believe i was using my Shigga barec 4\9 at the time....i didnt look at his PAs but i was doing over 250 a shot more then he was ^^;

ashley50
Jan 27, 2009, 06:30 PM
as for me...as long as I can equip it and shoots photon bullets, *uses photon charger* It'll do the job.

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 27, 2009, 06:31 PM
as for me...as long as I can equip it and shoots photon bullets, *uses photon charger* It'll do the job.

This.

LuigiMario
Jan 27, 2009, 06:42 PM
Well ive grown to love gunners.

And i've learned over my couple of months (bout 4-5) of gunning....you can have the strongest weapon and still do crappy damage w/o high leveled PAs

I notice this when i saw this guy with a Spread Needle /G think it was 8/8. And i believe i was using my Shigga barec 4\9 at the time....i didnt look at his PAs but i was doing over 250 a shot more then he was ^^;

Damage isn't everything. Everyone knows that.

KunoTatewaki
Jan 27, 2009, 06:49 PM
"Suffer with 3 Rattlesnakes"? I know a few people who would be happy to "suffer" with you! :lol:

I would have to agree. Some of us don't have even 1 rattlesnake. >_>

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 27, 2009, 06:56 PM
Damage isn't everything. Everyone knows that.
I kno but the fact that some people are like "OMG the SN/G is the best shotgun" well yea it is....but not by itself :P

amtalx
Jan 27, 2009, 07:03 PM
yea i wanted to to get a SN/G during MAG(even the second time) but i didnt have the time to play to play 24/7 o.o yes i said it....in reality....you had to play most of the day just to stay in the top 500 and i didnt have the time.

I had two characters on the leader board for the first MAG, and both of them were in the top 200 (I think). You really didn't have to play that much to get on the last page. :p

Dark Emerald EXE
Jan 27, 2009, 07:12 PM
I had two characters on the leader board for the first MAG, and both of them were in the top 200 (I think). You really didn't have to play that much to get on the last page. :p



Hmmmm ^^;
*erases statement from the archive*

XD

LuigiMario
Jan 27, 2009, 11:29 PM
I had two characters on the leader board for the first MAG, and both of them were in the top 200 (I think). You really didn't have to play that much to get on the last page. :p

But you had to take a vow to never sleep to beat Tidus or just tell him how to glitch.

Delete
Jan 28, 2009, 09:27 PM
This

I'm very satisfyied with my gunmaster weapons
Rattlesnake 7/7
Blackbull 7/7
Battlestoper 8/8,9/9
Shigga Barec 9/9
Ryusaikanoh 9/9

yea i wanted to to get a SN/G during MAG(even the second time) but i didnt have the time to play to play 24/7 o.o yes i said it....in reality....you had to play most of the day just to stay in the top 500 and i didnt have the time.

I'll get one eventually tho.....(Hoping for 7/7)

I agree with ya, you did have to play way too much, and for us people who work, there was no way we could get one. Same for the ones who went to school. I have friends who only play psu everyday, and one who had gotten one, would play like 15 hours a day, and in the end, they were around rank 420 or 430 ish, i forget, but you get the point. Why should a spread needle be hard to get while there are no fighter/techer weapons that are in the same category. Instead, we got spread needles and love infernos, and they were both a chore to try and get. We do alot of damage, thats true, but thats also not a reason to not give us weapons. I mean, at least a holy ray would be nice.