I started to get Confused...

[Ryno]

started to get confused....

2 people at the mall in game stop were complaining that it is called "Phantasy Star 0" and the other person said "Phantasy Star Zero"

So what is the actual game called?

"Phantasy Star 0"

or

"Phantasy Star Zero"


?????

[Hozanto]

Phanatasy star zero

[xSHiNOx]

doesnt matter. they are the same thing. one is spelled out and the other is a number

[_Vyser_]

When you speak it, it really doesn't matter. But for writing it out, I prefer to use "Phantasy Star Zero". I think PS0 looks too close to PSO, so I try to avoid confusion that way.

[xSHiNOx]

yeah. i just use psz.

[R3volver]

started to get confused....

2 people at the mall in game stop were complaining that it is called "Phantasy Star 0" and the other person said "Phantasy Star Zero"

So what is the actual game called?

"Phantasy Star 0"

or

"Phantasy Star Zero"


?????

I don't believe your game stop story. Enjoy your imagination.

[Shiroyu]

0 = Zero

Weird, isn't it?

[SammaeltheDark]

I don't believe your game stop story. Enjoy your imagination.
Yeah. People talking about Phantasy Star at all in public... shyeah right

I wonder if the OP meant that someone was calling it Phantasy Star "Oh" versus Phantasy Star Zero. I mean, given the way the render the zero in the logo I'd go with Phantasy Star Naught
In typing I use PSZ because PS0 is too easily confused with PSO

[Weeaboolits]

Those would sound the same spoken, were they broadcasting text messages or something?

[gratefulgriz]

I loled when I read this.. hmmmn. Zero!!!

[the_importer_]

Technically, the box says Phantasy Star Ø

[Kent]

Technically, the box says Phantasy Star Ø
...Which is generally used to differentiate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashed_zero) between the letter "O" and the number "0" in several forms of typeface.

Therefore, yes, the proper spelling of the name is "Phantasy Star 0" as the title uses the number as opposed to the word zero.

[the_importer_]

...Which is generally used to differentiate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashed_zero) between the letter "O" and the number "0" in several forms of typeface.

Therefore, yes, the proper spelling of the name is "Phantasy Star 0" as the title uses the number as opposed to the word zero.


Not quite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98

[landman]

I type PSØ

[Kent]

Not quite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashed_zero

I think you were looking for this one. It's obviously just a numeral zero, stylized to the point of being easily confused with that character. As you can plainly see, they're rather similar in the first place.

And yes, some people actually do write out their numeral zeros like that. Kinda like how some people will write the numeral one as either a fully-formed figure, or just a straight vertical line.

[the_importer_]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashed_zero

I think you were looking for this one. It's obviously just a numeral zero, stylized to the point of being easily confused with that character. As you can plainly see, they're rather similar in the first place.

And yes, some people actually do write out their numeral zeros like that. Kinda like how some people will write the numeral one as either a fully-formed figure, or just a straight vertical line.

Well you're pretty much contradicting yourself with this one.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The slashed zero looks just like a regular letter 'O' or number '0' (zero), but it has a slash through it. Unlike the Scandinavian vowel 'Ø' and the "empty set" symbol '∅', the slash often touches the walls of the surrounding O shape but does not extend past them on the outside.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3f/Phantasy_Star_Zero.jpg/250px-Phantasy_Star_Zero.jpg

The slash sure looks like it's going outside the O

[Kent]

You're not very familiar with the concept of stylization, are you?

[the_importer_]

You're not very familiar with the concept of stylization, are you?

Nope, but even if I was, do you work at SEGA to justify that they were using it?

[Kent]

Nope, but even if I was, do you work at SEGA to justify that they were using it?
This actually explains a lot.

But really, Sega has stated in interviews that they used the number zero (which is very different from the longhanded spelling for the name) because, when abbreviated, the name would look similarly to Phantasy Star Online (PSO, PS0). A slashed zero has been used in typefacing as well as handwriting for the purposes of differentiating it from similar symbols.

The fact that this is intended to be a slashed zero rather than an Ø is evident in the fact that the game's name written in Japanese is "ファンタジースターZERO" (as seen in the box art you posted). As in, the name of the number... but the actual logo uses the slashed zero glyph. Needless to say, they wouldn't call a game by the name "Phantasy Star Zero" if they intended its logo to depict something else.

Further evidence of this is the concept of stylization, something that will essentially happen in every video game title ever. Stylization is the process of taking something mundane or otherwise "normal," and making it adhere to a set of standards in order to present it in a way that is cogent with the rest of the work(s), either internally or externally. This applies to artwork as well as typefacing - you'll notice that the Phantasy Star Zero box art does, in fact, use a unique font for the logo, which is typically custom-created for the individual purposes of this game.

Further evidence of stylization of a typeface can be seen in the alphabets used in Phantasy Star Online and Phantasy Star Universe (not just the logos, but in-game as textures on things like the PB summoning circle and on signs), though their stylization is far more extreme, despite being still decipherable english.

[the_importer_]

This actually explains a lot.

But really, Sega has stated in interviews that they used the number zero (which is very different from the longhanded spelling for the name) because, when abbreviated, the name would look similarly to Phantasy Star Online (PSO, PS0). A slashed zero has been used in typefacing as well as handwriting for the purposes of differentiating it from similar symbols.

The fact that this is intended to be a slashed zero rather than an Ø is evident in the fact that the game's name written in Japanese is "ファンタジースターZERO" (as seen in the box art you posted). As in, the name of the number... but the actual logo uses the slashed zero glyph. Needless to say, they wouldn't call a game by the name "Phantasy Star Zero" if they intended its logo to depict something else.

Further evidence of this is the concept of stylization, something that will essentially happen in every video game title ever. Stylization is the process of taking something mundane or otherwise "normal," and making it adhere to a set of standards in order to present it in a way that is cogent with the rest of the work(s), either internally or externally. This applies to artwork as well as typefacing - you'll notice that the Phantasy Star Zero box art does, in fact, use a unique font for the logo, which is typically custom-created for the individual purposes of this game.

Further evidence of stylization of a typeface can be seen in the alphabets used in Phantasy Star Online and Phantasy Star Universe (not just the logos, but in-game as textures on things like the PB summoning circle and on signs), though their stylization is far more extreme, despite being still decipherable english.


Interesting theory, but this is what it remains, a theory. So how about I bring out mine then since this topic obvious doesn't require proof to back up out claims?

The name is Phantasy Star Zero but they did indeed wanted to make it look like look like PSO, so they mixed both a Ø and a Slash Zero. The Ø is more like an O for PSO while the slash zero would make it an actual 0 for PS0.

[DeathMachine]

What's the big deal? The symbol is being used for the representation of the number Zero. Where's the argument? Must you fight over the most inane and pointless topics? Go do this in the Rant thread!

[the_importer_]

What's the big deal? The symbol is being used for the representation of the number Zero. Where's the argument? Must you fight over the most inane and pointless topics? Go do this in the Rant thread!

Read properly and you shall see.

[Akaimizu]

I'll pull a Capcom overseas translation and say it's "Phantasy Star.......Alpha!" (Must be said in some off-brand Arnold Schwarzenegger voice to put the proper emphasis)

[the_importer_]

I'll pull a Capcom overseas translation and say it's "Phantasy Star.......Alpha!" (Must be said in some off-brand Arnold Schwarzenegger voice to put the proper emphasis)

lol, ya, I'm surprised they didn't named the game Resident Evil Alpha

[Z3R013]

whell if u read it in the new nintendo power they say it PS0 not psz