Lock Your Room! Shop Items Being Stolen!

[Shou]

There is a hacker going around deleting items out of everyone's shops...

I just lost a Pwand board...
PC / PS2 version...

[Dhylec]

I hope you have proof & reported this to Sega before spreading panic news like this.

[Chuck_Norris]

I've gotten word from friends of their stuff being stolen. Looks like all the Psycho Wands from shops are gone.

[Zarode]

I don't see anything gone.


Are you sure you aren't crying wolf? :|

[Za Warudo]

No, everything will be ok.

[Shou]

I sent in a ticket and everyone who had a pwand/pwand board in there shop had it deleted.

Im betting its the same person who deleted Lady Kuja's stuff recently.

Pretty stupid i hope ST can do somthing about this.


There is even a vid on youtube of somone doing this recently

[Zael]

Nice to see we're spreading the love <3

[beatrixkiddo]

Might not want to post that since it has explicit directions as to how to do this, yknow.

[Tekershee]

Oh okay.

[Shou]

I dont know how i could prove this. I when back to my shop and my board and everyone elses boards were gone and no meseta to be seen. Ill chack my action log.

Nope... action log doesnt contain any info on my shop selling a pwand I JUST put it up for sale.

Today's action log for me (Sade)
[SPOILER-BOX]06:44:03 20002380 Sade [MR_Buy] Grinder S+10(4)
06:45:54 20002380 Sade [MR_Buy] Grinder S+10(1)
06:46:25 20002380 Sade [MR_Buy] Grinder S+9(5)
07:07:07 20002380 Sade [Buy] Burn Trap EX(10)
07:07:08 20002380 Sade [Buy] Freeze Trap EX(10)
07:07:10 20002380 Sade [Buy] Stun Trap EX(10)
07:22:43 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Grinder Base S(1)
07:23:06 20045648 YaLyn V. [Put] Grinder Base S(1)
07:23:10 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Grinder Base S(1)
07:23:10 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Meseta(1377)
07:23:17 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Meseta(1377)
07:23:54 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Meseta(2520)
07:24:09 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Neptuline(1)
07:24:12 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Meseta(1467)
07:24:20 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Vestaline(1)
07:24:25 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Vulcaline(1)
07:24:30 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Junaline(1)
07:25:12 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:25:12 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:25:13 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:25:13 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:26:48 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Meseta(1622)
07:27:15 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Meseta(1415)
07:27:15 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] [B] B'duki Biso(1)
07:27:43 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Meseta(3960)
07:28:19 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Meseta(1998)
07:29:29 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Goldania(1)
07:29:46 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:29:46 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:29:47 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:29:47 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:29:50 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Kerseline(1)
07:30:29 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Meseta(1243)
07:30:33 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Meseta(1243)
07:31:04 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Meseta(1864)
07:31:56 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Meseta(1598)
07:32:04 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Meseta(9765)
07:32:45 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Berdys(1)
07:32:46 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Meseta(1776)
07:32:47 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Vestaline(1)
07:33:54 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:33:55 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:34:02 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:34:03 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:34:33 20045648 YaLyn V. [Put] Berdys(1)
07:35:37 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Berdys(1)
07:37:17 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Metamor Acid(1)
07:37:19 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Titania(1)
07:37:31 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:37:31 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:37:32 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:37:32 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-drop(1)
07:39:20 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Meseta(1826)
07:39:21 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Meseta(1713)
07:39:22 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Meseta(1826)
07:39:58 20050387 Meno [Pickup] [B] Survivor(1)
07:39:59 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Trans Acid(1)
07:39:59 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Meseta(1713)
07:40:00 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Trans Acid(1)
07:40:04 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Meseta(1936)
07:40:33 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zon-photon(1)
07:40:38 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Lambda Acid(1)
07:40:38 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Meseta(1936)
07:41:34 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Meseta(1936)
07:41:35 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Meseta(1936)
07:41:37 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:41:38 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:41:38 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:41:39 20045648 YaLyn V. [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:41:42 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Meseta(1991)
07:41:45 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Kerseline(1)
07:44:37 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:44:38 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:44:39 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:44:41 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Neu Ebon(1)
07:44:43 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Zonsphere(1)
07:44:45 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Note Seed(1)
07:44:48 20036656 Taeniri [Pickup] Neu Ebon(1)
07:44:50 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Neu Ash(1)
07:44:51 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Note Seed(1)
07:44:53 20050387 Meno [Pickup] Note Seed(1)
07:44:54 20002380 Sade [Pickup] Note Seed(1)
07:46:10 20002380 Sade [Buy] Trimate(2)
07:46:26 20002380 Sade [Sell] Burn Trap EX(4)
07:46:27 20002380 Sade [Sell] Freeze Trap EX(3)
[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Alecc]

this is weird, there aren´t any psycho wands listed for our servers indeed. ¬.¬
earlier today i checked and there are many boards, lots at max meseta. they can´t have all been sold. this sucks. sega fix this now.

[kyle21]

wow.. glad all I got in my shop is photons, this is pretty horrible. Locking my room anyways...

[Wraithind]

Wow, this is quite the problem... luckily my shops empty seeing as I dont have anything anyone would want anyways. I hope Sega does something about this soon before more problems occure. Though if this is true and if it continues Im assuming a server roll back is bound to happen. Lets just hope not.

[Wraithind]

...poopy face? ...right...

Well I dont quite know what you mean by another one coming but I was just stating my guesses based on my observation of the problem. Although the longer they wait the worse this is likely to become.

Edit: Okay, I feel I should explain the first line in my post, the guy above me called me a poopy face for some odd reason and has since been banned I assume so his post is gone, just thought I should clear up that little confusion.

[Shou]

Um can a Site mod plz ban Gamma from posting any further and hold off new account making for today?

[WhiteKnight01]

rollback for ps2/pc me thinks

[Exploited]

There wont be a roll back. It's the weekend and the programmers have to figure out how to patch it.

[Wraithind]

Well I hope thats the case but if this causes a lot of damage to the game overall they might be forced to do so. If I recall correctly theyve done server rollbacks before that went back a few days so I dont see why it cant happen again. Again, Im hoping it doesnt happen and that they find some other solution but Im just posting my assumptions.

[briannakira]

yes to of my shops were hit for numerous things including mats,clothes and alot of decent wpns in the 30-40% range.the one name that is the same in both shops was Ayamin (ID# 20017099)

[DreXxiN]

I lost 13 mugunruk boards and all my weaps in my shop...Wow.

[TRIBLASTER]

I lost 13 mugunruk boards and all my weaps in my shop...Wow.

You should be playing starcraft anyways

[Smidge204]

I don't suppose it's occurred to anyone affected to compare their "Recent Visitors" lists and identify the culprit?

=Smidge=

[Exploited]

I wish Sega could release the hackers personal info so we can dump gasoline and burn the F-ing house down.

Then Id take a baseball bat and break both of their knee caps and use a spray bottle with turpentine in it and spray on his open soars and watch him scream and suffer.

[magenta]

so far have lost my serafi-senba 38% dark in shop.. (logged on just to see if i have got anything stolen)

hmm can i go into someone's room who has no shop without being in their friendlist.. just viewed my visitor list, and the last visitor and went into a room with no shop..

[AerisZeal]

I wish Sega could release the hackers personal info so we can dump gasoline and burn the F-ing house down.

Then Id take a baseball bat and break both of their knee caps and use a spray bottle with turpentine in it and spray on his open soars and watch him scream and suffer.

Wow, that's rather vivid. I wouldn't say they deserve that but they certainly earned our hate, without question.

[DreXxiN]

6 friends who got hacked whom I talked to reported it was 20017099 Ayamin..Blah.

[magenta]

6 friends who got hacked whom I talked to reported it was 20017099 Ayamin..Blah.

thats the person who last visited me.

[Svaltus]

I worried about lost my photon charge cosmos in my shop! selling one for 100k! :P

[WhiteKnight01]

its just on ps2/pc servers ya?

[kyle21]

gah.. way to ruin my weekend. Was gonna do lots of bonus, but now I fear the rollback... I'd lose all my stuff. Fuckin hell.

Looks like everyone with anything in their shop is getting nailed, but looks like people have pin pointed the culprit.

[Exploited]

all the Armas boards are gone now

[magenta]

gah.. way to ruin my weekend. Was gonna do lots of bonus, but now I fear the rollback... I'd lose all my stuff. Fuckin hell.

Looks like everyone with anything in their shop is getting nailed, but looks like people have pin pointed the culprit.

im in his/her room now.. seeing if the twat returns.

[DreXxiN]

Let's hope.. Well I'm definitely done playing this until it's fixed..

[kyle21]

im in his/her room now.. seeing if the twat returns.

lol, prepare to get BL'td and kicked from his room as soon as he sees you. What a hoser though.

[magenta]

lol, prepare to get BL'td and kicked from his room as soon as he sees you. What a hoser though.

well that be okay.. i was planning to nab blacklist him first...

[_Vyser_]

Anyone else think it's strange that some new questionable people join PSOW within the last few days, then this happens?

[magenta]

lets just all go into Ayamin's room and have a party.. a house party.. free drinks and biscuits.

[DreXxiN]

I'm already there. lol

[_Vyser_]

Is there a P-wand and Armas Line gift bag at the door?

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Anyone else think it's strange that some new questionable people join PSOW within the last few days, then this happens?
No.

Let me explain what happened:


1. Someone was hoarding a bunch of materials and cornering the market on Catiliums and stuff, and it pissed people off.
2. Someone else was bored and decided to hack the above person for shits and giggles and because he probably thought the person deserved it.
3. The person that did the hacking got banned.
4. People who had let the person who did the hacking use their accounts previously got banned.
5. People who had previously let someone who had previously let the hacker use their account use their accounts got banned. Confused yet? Good.
6. People who were closely associated with the above people but may or may not have shared account information with them got banned.
7. A lot of people were confused and pissed off at what they saw as (and, arguably, were) unjust bans.
8. One of these people flipped the fuck out and decided to go apeshit on the server.

It's quite simple, really.

[furrypaws]

Sega just showed a message on the top telling us to lock our rooms. Uploading the pics now. While we wait, I can recite the message;

"Hello, GUARDIANS! A number of players have reported to us regarding recent shop attacks and hacks. We are continuing to investigate this issue, and in the meantime, advise that players with shops lock their rooms as a preventative security measure. Please check phantasystaruniverse.com for more details as they become available. Thank you!

EDIT: Actual screens. In backwards order, but they're there nonetheless.
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp160/Furrypaws16/PSU/psu20090220_195809_006.jpg
http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp160/Furrypaws16/PSU/psu20090220_195806_005.jpg
http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp160/Furrypaws16/PSU/psu20090220_195756_004.jpg
http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp160/Furrypaws16/PSU/psu20090220_195745_003.jpg
http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp160/Furrypaws16/PSU/psu20090220_195736_002.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Katy]

http://phantasystaruniverse.com/news_item.php?item=nid94

Lock your rooms Sega says.

[Sexy_Raine]

Only thing of value I have in my shop is my Needle Cannon 3/9. I stored it safely.

People still care about Psychos? Other than selling of course, cause techer is pointless now.

[_Vyser_]

My, people are testy lately. I know how the whole hacking bs has played out; I haven't been under a rock the last two years. I just find it odd that we happen to have hacking issues with many PSOW players right after we start getting new people that seem to hate everything. Maybe it's just a coincidence then. Wont know for sure until the person responsible is caught.

[evilives34]

heard ruby got and banned the hacker, but to keep rooms lock for a little bit longer

[Rust]

Haha, if the guy ever steals something from my shop, he must be really desperate.
Well, I didn't login since last maintenance, so none of my shops are showing up in the shop search anyways.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Is that true?I guarantee it.

[Shou]

Oh the rage of an angry, fat, unshaven, dirty, nerdy, jobless, friendless loser...

[DreXxiN]

No rollback plans btw.

[Exploited]

This same player ID, his other character is Agent D. I think someone took over this account because Agent D was pretty cool player and could never imagine him doing this.

[_Vyser_]

Just want to make sure, but who told you there's no plan on doing a rollback? I haven't seen any official reports yet.

Edit: No need to answer (if you haven't already done so) just found the source.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Just want to make sure, but who told you there's no plan on doing a rollback? I haven't seen any official reports yet.Someone over on official posted a screenshot of Edvard saying just that.

[evilives34]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m300/musicsoccer/psu20090220_200616_001.jpg

[DreXxiN]

Kind of hard to read, but yeah, interesting enough.

EDIT: The troll has been dealt with. Let's not give them any attention.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Based on my hardboiled investigative reporting techniques, I can now update my previous statement with a more accurate conclusion:


Let me explain what happened:


1. Someone was hoarding a bunch of materials and cornering the market on Catiliums and stuff, and it pissed people off.
2. Someone else was bored and decided to hack the above person for shits and giggles and because he probably thought the person deserved it.
3. The person that did the hacking got banned.
4. People who had let the person who did the hacking use their accounts previously got banned.
5. People who had previously let someone who had previously let the hacker use their account use their accounts got banned. Confused yet? Good.
6. People who were closely associated with the above people but may or may not have shared account information with them got banned.
7. A lot of people were confused and pissed off at what they saw as (and, arguably, were) unjust bans.
8. The person in section 2 used a separate account originally owned by someone who quit months ago and then gave his account to someone in sections 5 and/or 6, who then gave the login information to the person in section 2, who proceeded to flip the fuck out and go apeshit on the server.

It's quite simple, really.

[Itachi1990]

LMAO everyone start screaming probably looking through this now!

[Totori]

lol it's probabaly just someone making that account to start something

[Calsetes]

Wow.

I'm playing it safe and leaving my room locked until.... well, probably tomorrow.

Thank god my Base S's finally sold (almost all of them, and did the math so the amount I got was the right amount for the number missing).

[ShuttleXpC]

I don't understand why SEGA won't sue people that do this? Hacking is fairly easy to prove, especially if the idiot is using his/her home PC registered to the account (and they have logs of account logins). Simply file a lawsuit against them, and wait for the 12 year old (Yes, GG Bypassing idiots from Maple Story and other crap games) When he/she is getting touched in prison by Bill, the 42 year old child molester, I'm sure they will regret messing around on the interwebs./

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Because they have better ways to spend their time and effort.

[ShuttleXpC]

Because they have better ways to spend their time and effort.

Last I checked, the hire outside help to sue people. They do have a legal department, but it is in no way connected to a single branch inside their company. Something like this wouldn't even make it to court either (See FFXI hacking where the guy was sued) case didn't even make it to court, and he agreed to something like a 4000.00+ USD settlement and probation time. No lawyer in his/her right mind would actually try to fight the charges when the person caught hacking is told they have evidence of their home computer which is tied to their account and has been used to log-in to the game the past 4 years was caught with logging tools attempting to hack.

[beatrixkiddo]

You can't send a 12 year old to prison.

[ShuttleXpC]

You can't send a 12 year old to prison.

You surely can, but I doubt it would happen for something like this. Kids as young as 15 have been sent to adult prisons for higher crimes. I highly doubt the person would be sent there, but I can assure you they would get a cyber crime attached to their record which would mean they couldn't touch a computer EVER again in their life, along with some other very basic computer based tech in their home without their PO's permission (which would include simple things like TVR) So I think it would be highly worth their time to try and sue this guy/girl.

[WhiteKnight01]

You can't send a 12 year old to prison.

lets take the prison to the 12year old boy

[Sidney]

I'd hope to get a rollback; I wasn't affected in the slightest, but I'd like to see justice for the people who were hacked. It's just not right.

[Calsetes]

You can't have a 42-year-old child molester touch a 12-year-old in prison.


They get used like a Gold Bar for cigarettes, traded around for various favors.

[Exploited]

wow, the mofo totally wiped out Catilium in all shops

[PepperCat]

I'd hope to get a rollback; I wasn't affected in the slightest, but I'd like to see justice for the people who were hacked. It's just not right.

I lost quite a few good items, I wish I hadn't reset my shop after the maintenance now...

If I were the hacker, I would have just mass hacked meseta and at least bought out the peoples items instead of outright stealing them.

We better get some kind of compensation for this, but knowing SoA and their impotence its not going to happen.

[Totori]

lol that hacker need life

[Matic]

I would have locked my shop if I were home.
Not like I have anything of value, anyway.

[Itachi1990]

I'd hope to get a rollback; I wasn't affected in the slightest, but I'd like to see justice for the people who were hacked. It's just not right.

Sega will give back the items taken so its all good.

[Exploited]

They will have to rollback now. All Catilium, 13* Weapons are gone, Armas

[Itachi1990]

Nah everyone probably just locked there rooms.

[ShuttleXpC]

Sega will give back the items taken so its all good.

That is sorta pointless when you cannot remember what you had in your shop. I know some people playing that have a ton of high priced items in their shop, and I'm fairly sure they don't write down what they went to sleep with the night before.

[Arika]

Sega will give back the items taken so its all good.

yup, I think compensation the same item like last time is better than rollback! because when you rollback, you effect the whole server including my friend Katy who just got 50% lighting crea double too.

If they rollback, they need to compensation that to her too.

[Totori]

A rollback is a bit extreme

[Itachi1990]

That is sorta pointless when you cannot remember what you had in your shop. I know some people playing that have a ton of high priced items in their shop, and I'm fairly sure they don't write down what they went to sleep with the night before.

They have it all in the system for god sakes its not the 90's.

[ShuttleXpC]

They have it all in the system for god sakes its not the 90's.

I dunno, I still party like its 1999 ='(

[Shou]

They better rollback. Compensation is BS. I really dont have any doubt that they will rollback though. Too much was deleted to give people back their items one by one. If you are still running missions i am laughing at you right now.

[Sha Sha]

ah i cant get on but now that i think about it i dont think ig ot anything in there

[Para]

I think they will do compensation as in giving the lost items back to people.

[beatrixkiddo]

That's a lot of items!

[Exploited]

They will have to rollback, there is ton of items and lot of people who dont even use these forums

[_Vyser_]

Although it's been said there wont be a rollback, I really hope there is. I think any time I loose playing today from a potential rollback will be nothing compared to what people will loose if they don't get their items back. It's a shame we have to deal with this again; I was hoping PSU was cleaned out of people like that.

[ashley50]

just another day on the US PC/PS2 servers for me, where hackers come in and come out once in awhile ...

[Sidney]

Although it's been said there wont be a rollback, I really hope there is. I think any time I loose playing today from a potential rollback will be nothing compared to what people will loose if they don't get their items back. It's a shame we have to deal with this again; I was hoping PSU was cleaned out of people like that.

I agree. If anything, I'd be glad to have some of my tickets back! And even more glad that people will get their hard-earned items back. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for either killer compensation or a rollback.

[PepperCat]

They need to IP BAN that fucker, not just accounts that he's been logging on with.

[Exploited]

IP ban does not work. These hackers are not a business or hosting stuff.

Everyone has dynamic IP's. It's so easy to change your IP.

[joefro]

Sorry for the people affected by this; both the people who lost items and people who found items (Mugunburga, Buti, Yasha, etc.) I really think a rollback is necessary. If they couldn't replace the handful of peoples' items on 360 during lolgbr then they can't replace your items w/o rollback. :sad:

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

They need to IP BAN that fucker, not just accounts that he's been logging on with.
They're not even doing that. They banned Zeph's main account, and then accounts of other people that he had used months ago, and then accounts of people that those people had used months ago. Except somehow they missed the one he actually picked to use for shop hacking.

[Calsetes]

They'll give us killer compensation:

"Hey, you know that Speed King the JP players got from this event? Congratulations! We gave everyone one! Oh, and 10 tickets each."


Nah, I'm just playing. I think the reason why so many items are missing now are people are locking their shops. I'm kind of upset that this is cutting into my "wanna find my 3 female characters a Madam Brella that doesn't cost 10 mil" time.

On an unrelated note.......... if anyone finds a Madam Brella and wants to sell it for like, 5 mil or less, feel free to let me know.

[Shou]

Ok looks like no rollback. We are getting our stuff back one item at a time so make a list and they will confirm that you had the item. Also we are voting on the name of the "Shred the Darkness" event and we will have acces to all items including Holy Ray/D, whitill wing, and healing SUV.

Continue your runs normally :)

[Itachi1990]

Sorry for the people affected by this; both the people who lost items and people who found items (Mugunburga, Buti, Yasha, etc.) I really think a rollback is necessary. If they couldn't replace the handful of peoples' items on 360 during lolgbr then they can't replace your items w/o rollback. :sad:

GBR was a glitch so they had to rollback.

[SStrikerR]

I haven't been on in a few weeks so I doubt anything of mine was stolen; I won't even bother to check my room. I really don't care, because if anybody seriously thought hacking was gone for good, then..yeah, wishful thinking retard. Sorry to everyone who lost items, hopefully you get your rollback/compensation.

[DreXxiN]

Does anyone else find it weird that Zael's human character's (Kylie's) shop has all the boards remaining after he got banned? I'm not assuming anything, just weird speculation.

[PepperCat]

Does anyone else find it weird that Zael's human character's (Kylie's) shop has all the boards remaining after he got banned? I'm not assuming anything, just weird speculation.

He was banned from the forums, not the game.

[beatrixkiddo]

No, he was banned in game as well.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Oh no, Zael was banned in game today, along with anyone else who had ever shared an account with Zephyr or Zael, or was otherwise closely associated with either.

[McLaughlin]

Being banned means you can't log in, not that your characters go poof.

[Yunfa]

I still stand firm on my belief, PC = hack.

[Zael]

I'm an innocent ban :/

They banned me because Zephyr's been on my account at one point in the past, before he started hacking. Zephyr and IG's OptimusPrime were the ones responsible for hacking Lady Kuja's room. After that they banned those two, and everyone who's somehow linked to Zephyr.

Because of this, several innocent players like myself and pretty much everyone in my close-knit group of friends I play with regularly were banned. There's at least six accounts I can name off to be completely innocent, and only banned because Zephyr has been on their accounts at one point. Even if those accounts weren't involved in any cheating or hacking whatsoever.

Now you guys are probably wondering why we share accounts. Our group of friends pretty much trusted each other with our account data. Probably not the most secure thing ever, since this incident caused our bannings, but that's how we were.

As for those Mugunruk boards, I'll admit it. I asked the next wave of hackers to leave my room alone. I was banned yesterday anyway, so it's not like I'm benefiting from it anyway. I tried to tell them to leave Drex's boards alone too, but it was too late. Sorry man :/

[-Zephyr-]

Sorry people I like; didn't pay attention :(

[Exploited]

That kinda sucks loosing all those LV150 characters and years of leveling up. Hopefully it's a lesson learned about who you hang out with.

Edit: OptimusPrime has had to have been banned several times now. He's one of the original hackers, not sure from TGM but Ive seen old screen shots of him with max money when the game first came out.

[Za Warudo]

Or shit GMs who can't even prevent the hacking's from happening in the first place. Who try to stop it by banning anyone associated with said hacker, regardless of their innocence, yet the hacking continues. These guys suck hard and it's hilarious.

Let the madness spread.

[Smidge204]

I'm willing to bet GMs don't have any ability to affect the game's programming. I'm also willing to bet they are not clairvoyant, so GMs have no choice but to act retroactively. Maybe if those who associated with the hacker(s) had the common sense to blow the whistle on them, they wouldn't be banned. Knowing someone is doing something illegal and not doing anything about it is itself illegal.

If you want to get pissed at someone not preventing the hacking in the first place, get pissed at the programmers. Credit where credit is due.
=Smidge=

[Zael]

I don't hang out with OptimusPrime. I hang out with Zephyr.

And I'm not going to stop hanging out with him because of what he does. I'll always value my best friends over my 6000+ hours of playtime and 1bil+ worth of rares.

[-Zephyr-]

Because knowing someone who streetraces, despite it's illegality, is something you should be arrested for when you're not apart of it.

Word.

[Vent]

It's more of a morale rule than a real law. If you know someone is trying to commit suicide, you're asked by the community, not by the law, to try to prevent that person from doing so. If you don't try, you'll be frowned upon.



And I'm not going to stop hanging out with him because of what he does.


If you disapprove someone's actions, why would you still hang out with that person? Though you may be tolerating his actions for the better of your friendship or you may think your friend has good reasons for his actions. But if you take the extreme; that a friend of yours suddenly does things that he isn't used to do, your friend would be a completely different person. Would you still see the friend you once saw?

[ShuttleXpC]

I dunno about you, but I'm kinda glad they banned you. If you have any dealings with these people it likely wasn't ever good. If they had been hacking (money or other things before this) you would actually sit there and tell me you wouldn't be tempted to take the free hacked items these people made? I hate hacking, and I KNOW I would be tempted. So I'm sure you had some sort of beneficial relationship there. So, sounds like SEGA did an outstanding job banning all those associated players.

I don't want to start a fight here, but honestly think of it the way I am and I'm sure you will also be glad these people were banned.

[Smidge204]

Because knowing someone who streetraces, despite it's illegality, is something you should be arrested for when you're not apart of it.

Word.


Yes. Yes that it exactly how it works. Any rational adult will tell you that all crimes are created equal. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Growing up is going to be very difficult for you.
=Smidge=

[tirith]

Yes. Yes that it exactly how it works. Any rational adult will tell you that all crimes are created equal. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Growing up is going to be very difficult for you.
=Smidge=

so if i know someone that speeds i should be given a speeding ticket??....

hmm, i know how to solve the governments money problems.

[Smidge204]

If you insist on using traffic infractions as an analogy...

Your friend is a street racer. He has his license suspended because of it. If you lend him your car so he can street-race, you're going to be in trouble too.

Of course, this only works if you insist on equating exploiting the game and the ramifications that has on other players with speeding and the ramifications that has on other citizens. If you really think they carry equal weight in their own context you are brain damaged.
=Smidge=

[ShuttleXpC]

I'm really curious why these people (friends or whatever) of the people banned really expect sympathy from us, or anyone for that matter. You were his/her friend, you obviously knew they hacked, someone just doesn't get hacks one day and is an expert at using them or their little UCE. You knew they were doing something weird, likely duping items or something similar (Which I'm sure you reaped the benefits from). Someone just doesn't get hacks one day and simply knows how to screw people's rooms up (albeit easy, but you would still need to know your way around the UCE). So please, stop trying to get sympathy. Be on your merry way, your characters are gone. The END.

[S4CT4L1TY]

you are brain damaged.


this just about sums it up

[Allspice]

You people must not have many friends if you drop people based on whether or not you agree with everything you believe in.

And smidge, nobody lent him an account for hacking. A better analogy would be going to jail because you're married to a vandal and you live in the same house, drive the same car, etc. And when you're arrested, instead of knowing what charges are being brought against you, you're told "you know what you did," or "we don't have to tell you." And they don't let you fight said charges.

They're simply going off of guilt by association, which is a flimsy excuse for banning over six people over the course of a few hours.

[Ryna]

I'm locking this since it is turning into a flame-war.