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Paulipring
03-14-2009, 12:26 AM
I quit PSO for a long time and just recent;y started playing again, on a new character.

Seeing as I'm a force, my health is pretty low. I know DF's swipe attack does a set amount of damage, so I was wondering if anyone knew what that damage was on the various difficulties for single and multi mode, or where I could find a guide that would tell me.

I was also wondering if grants did a set amount (assuming 0 light resist) or if it was dependent on your character's level, partially.

I just want to know what I should have my health at in each mode, before taking him on. Any help is greatly appreciated. :D

Ketchup345
03-14-2009, 12:31 AM
http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=948
Pretty sure ATP = set damage.

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1154

Between those 2, you should be able to figure it out.

UnluckyHunter
03-14-2009, 01:22 PM
Slash Damage (Offline/Online).

Hard: 250/310

V-Hard: 390/450

Ultimate: 696/812

The damage of grants can be lowered with holy resistance, but don't bother. If you have enough health to survive the slash, you have enough health to survive grants.

Akruta
03-14-2009, 01:56 PM
The damage of grants can be lowered with holy resistance, but don't bother. If you have enough health to survive the slash, you have enough health to survive grants.

Not so my HUnewearl died in one shot to Grantz on my first attempt this morning but she could survive the slash. second attempt with better light resist left me with 5 HP after Grantz.

UnluckyHunter
03-14-2009, 04:26 PM
I stand corrected. For Hard mode, Grants does do more damage.

MeruAmura
03-14-2009, 04:33 PM
Its not hard to get Light resist items. so dont worry my fight w/hard falz i had 50. Vhard 75

DC_PLAYER
03-14-2009, 04:54 PM
It may not seem, but Paulipring found out that falz swipe does a fixed damage, this is something many players do not know and that's why i see high level players casting deband and using high dfp armors at the boss, then they wonder why they die lol

Try to balance everything, hp is good but if you find a good elt armor then don't be afraid to use it.

MeruAmura
03-14-2009, 05:51 PM
The only spels you wanan cast for Falz
Shifta
Zalure -i think thats the DFP lower-

psofan219
03-14-2009, 06:12 PM
Yup. Zalure lowers DFP, though it doesn't work against all bosses (curse you Vol Opt...). I increased DFP myself, before I came to this site. Now I know better, so instead of DFP, I'll be boosting ELT and HP.

Genoa
03-18-2009, 11:16 AM
Gol Dragon could also care less for your debuffs.

Why do people insist on getting light resist units?
If his damage is set, wear an armor/frame with high ELT. The armor/frame's DFP/EVP Won't Matter Right? The ONLY thing you can alter is his technique attacks. Therefore, wear an armor/frame and/or shield/barrier that raises those resistances needed.

Otherwise, for units, if you're having problems surviving, wear HP units. They're the MOST useful since having more HP helps you from not only Techniques, but any attack.

psofan219
03-18-2009, 01:16 PM
I still use them anyways. It's easier for me then looking for body armor and shields that have high ELT, EFR, and EIC on them, since I don't hold on to anything that's not rare after I upgrade from it.

Genoa
03-18-2009, 01:22 PM
I can understand not wanting to hold on to such things.
However, I find it very convenient to hold on to every 4-slotted armor/frame I come across (as long as I don't have duplicates).
If I make a new character, I transfer all of my previous armors/frame to that character, therefore they will always have four slotted frames/armors.
I even fully-slotted a standard Frame so I can be ubber at Lv.1 ;P

psofan219
03-18-2009, 01:37 PM
I tried that once actually, but I felt like I was cheating... could kill everything in a matter of seconds, so I don't really do it all that much anymore. Save for once I start BB, I'm getting my way to Ult as soon as possible.

Genoa
03-18-2009, 01:42 PM
Understandable as well.
I've just created so many characters in my years of PSO, I try to blow through normal-vhard as fast as possible, seeing you end up spending the majority of your time in ultimate anyway. Lv.80-200, hah... Yeah that's a lot of ultimate.
Seeing when you're like... what, somewhere in the middle of Lv.182... your TOTAL Exp is what is needed to get a Lv.199 to Lv.200.
In essence, the EXP needed to get a Lv.199 to Lv.200 is enough to take a Lv.1 character to Lv.182.

psofan219
03-18-2009, 02:00 PM
Understandable as well.
I've just created so many characters in my years of PSO, I try to blow through normal-vhard as fast as possible, seeing you end up spending the majority of your time in ultimate anyway. Lv.80-200, hah... Yeah that's a lot of ultimate.
Seeing when you're like... what, somewhere in the middle of Lv.182... your TOTAL Exp is what is needed to get a Lv.199 to Lv.200.
In essence, the EXP needed to get a Lv.199 to Lv.200 is enough to take a Lv.1 character to Lv.182.

Ultimate does get a lot of attention from your characters... heh, just imagine how long, and painfully boring it would be to level your character to 200 in just Normal Forest. Back when I was still noobish to the game, I actually considered it to make the rest of the game easier^^; I think it's safe to say I never will do that, because I would just absolutely die from the boredom of constantly doing the Forest over and over again before I even hit LV25, which is, by level count, 1/8 of the way to 200 (too bad it's not actually the 1/8 mark... I'm not even 10% of the way there yet!)

SStrikerR
03-20-2009, 04:03 PM
Does anybody happen to know shambertin's laser damage on each mode? I know it's set damage, but I don't know the numbers.
Also, Level 120 is about 1/20 of the way to 200, if the dude I was with yesterday did the math right. I actually just did some math and got 16.6%.

I dunno.

Genoa
03-20-2009, 04:24 PM
Does anybody happen to know shambertin's laser damage on each mode? I know it's set damage, but I don't know the numbers.
Also, Level 120 is about 1/20 of the way to 200, if the dude I was with yesterday did the math right. I actually just did some math and got 16.6%.

I dunno.

That's a good question actually. I will run some damage tests when I'm off from work. I'll get Shambertin and Saint Million's laser damage for all difficulties.
However, the cinematic beam attack he does when he's almost dead varies. I'm not sure if it's by distance or not, but usually it's weaker than his regular sweeping-beam.
Getting Kon's damage will be difficult... seeing he's rare.

As for the EXP...
At Lv.120, your total EXP is 4,835,405.
At Lv.200, your total EXP is 83,227,800.
The difference is 78,392,395 EXP.
That's about 17.2% of the way to Lv.200

psofan219
03-22-2009, 12:47 AM
Actually, that's 5.8%. For 17.2%, it's 14,315,182, rounded up. Actual number is 181.6. I can prove it if you'd like, it's not hard. For the 5.8, just take the 4,835,405 and multiply that by 100. You get 483,540,500. Then, you just divide that by 83,227,800. What's left is the percent. Here's the system I used:
n/100=4,835,405/83,227,800, or another way to say it, n over 100=4,835,405 over 83,227,800. You multiply the 4,835,405 with 100, then divide that number, which is 483,540,500 by 83,227,800, which give you a decimal, 5.8. That's your percent. For finding out the 17.2, I used the same method, but had it like this instead:
17.2/100=n/83,227,800. Just take 17.2 and multiply that by 83,227,800, then divide that by 100. You're left with 14,315,181.6. Hopefully none of you got lost in that...

Genoa
03-22-2009, 04:39 AM
Ah dang, hah... yeah I screwed that up, I simply divided the wrong way...
Your equation is the long way :P
You COULD essentially just divide 4,835,405 by 83,227,800. You get .0058094etc... simply move the decimal over two spaces to the right for your 5.8
I divided 83,227,800 by 4,835,405 >_< doh!

psofan219
03-22-2009, 09:06 AM
Yeah, that would do it. I can't do it the short way, that always screws me up. It's long, but it never fails me. I was surprised you didn't get lost in that, haha:lol: When I read my post, I almost lost myself in it:lol:^^; I read your post, and I was like "What? 17.2%? That'd make the half-way mark at around 12mill and some odd number, maybe 13." It happens to the best of us... mistakes. The system I used really doesn't take that long once you use it enough. Though I did this with a calculator, it took me about... 5 minutes maybe? Not even... I probably could've done this on my own... not to brag. Math is just my strong point. And sorry for getting a little off-topic by the way.

SStrikerR
03-22-2009, 09:48 AM
So wait, I AM 1/20 of the way there like the other dude said?

psofan219
03-22-2009, 10:39 AM
Basically, yes. You are. It's strange... level wise, you're 5/8 of the way there, but EXP wise, you're only 1/20... Just goes to show how much EXP is needed... In fact, you're not even 1% of the way there until your EXP count hits 832,278. As for what level that is, I'm not too sure, but if I had to guess... the 80's range, maybe 90's even.