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NiceOnes
Mar 19, 2009, 12:05 PM
I'm curious to know how many people one star is indicitive of in reference to the Universe population.

Anyone know the answer to this?

Magician
Mar 19, 2009, 12:07 PM
I always thought one-thousand players were playing online per star.

Namine
Mar 19, 2009, 12:14 PM
Empty star = 1~50, full star = 51~100, according to this:

http://www.psuxxx.info/uploader/src/up0967.txt

WHlTEKNIGHT
Mar 19, 2009, 12:38 PM
1 star is 200 universe is 1000, The GM'S have said this many times before too.

NiceOnes
Mar 19, 2009, 01:40 PM
Hmm... Conflicting stories. I'm leaning towards Namine's answer.

WhiteKnight01
Mar 19, 2009, 02:15 PM
why not test it get 100 people into a unpopulated server and see how mant stars it goes up il help just say a time and date

NiceOnes
Mar 19, 2009, 03:29 PM
ok. tonite at 6:00 MST - lol...

Good luck with that one dude. How do we control and note who's is there and supposed to be there etc.

amtalx
Mar 19, 2009, 04:11 PM
ok. tonite at 6:00 MST - lol...

Good luck with that one dude. How do we control and note who's is there and supposed to be there etc.

Go buy 100 copies of PSU and register 100 new accounts.

RemiusTA
Mar 19, 2009, 04:28 PM
I always thought one-thousand players were playing online per star.


I cant possibly see how.

Rambo!
Mar 19, 2009, 04:34 PM
0 - anything is still 0

WHlTEKNIGHT
Mar 19, 2009, 05:04 PM
Hmm... Conflicting stories. I'm leaning towards Namine's answer.Leaning towards the wrong answer then.

Powder Keg
Mar 19, 2009, 06:10 PM
It ain't good, I can tell you that. Today around 1PM EST there were all empty stars on PC/PS2 and only three teams at White Beast lol.

Commodity
Mar 19, 2009, 06:47 PM
Leaning towards the wrong answer then.
So 200 people are playing this game instead of 50 Sega must be rollin' in the money.

LoneDespo
Mar 19, 2009, 07:00 PM
I'm curious to know how many people one star is indicitive of in reference to the Universe population.

Anyone know the answer to this?
Purely by going off of what was initially advertised, the maximum population per server/universe was 1000.
With 5 possible stars, this allows us to infer that 1★=200 players, while 1☆=100.
Note that this is completely dependent on ~3 year-old pre-release information, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if Namine's source was correct.

Kazemi
Mar 20, 2009, 04:42 AM
13 parties per page at the mission counter and stops listing parties a bit into the 9th page. i know this because one event on a full universe i couldn't find a friend's party listed since it overflowed.

can't remember how many it lists on the last page so we'll just go with 8 full pages...
8 * 13 * 4 (for event missions) = 416 players

not all of those parties are gonna be full and then there's those that aren't counted. throw in the mob of players in the lobby looking for a party and such, the people dancing down on the 4th floor, those hanging in their room that are still bound to that universe and that'll likely put things around the 500 mark.

so from that i'd agree with the 500 theory. kinda doubt a single server could handle 1000 players anyways simply because of the sheer amount of processing power that would be needed.

Swiftstrike
Mar 20, 2009, 04:56 AM
1 star is 200 universe is 1000, The GM'S have said this many times before too.

pfft! I think Namine is correct. unless there is a differance between PC/PS2 servers and 360 ....

Im sure 2000-3000 people did not show up on the 360 servers just for the PSPo event.

Volcompat321
Mar 20, 2009, 06:20 AM
its definetily not 1000...the pc/ps2 server has a hard time getting a full star and a blank star in the same uni...although every uni has at least 1 ☆
uni 2 usually looks like this-★☆

BIG OLAF
Mar 20, 2009, 10:56 AM
1 star is 200, universe is 1000, The GM'S have said this many times before too.

He's right. The GMs have told us this many a time. 1 star = 200 players. 5 stars = 1000.

Cracka_J
Mar 20, 2009, 11:28 AM
how many times have gm's been wrong?

just checking :P

WHlTEKNIGHT
Mar 21, 2009, 11:01 AM
pfft! I think Namine is correct. unless there is a differance between PC/PS2 servers and 360 ....

Im sure 2000-3000 people did not show up on the 360 servers just for the PSPo event.

There is no difference between them :roll: and yes that many people did turn up. Namine is wrong and I am right, whatever you want to belive is your lookout.

Namine
Mar 21, 2009, 11:56 AM
That source is from the PSU uploader, mainly used by the JP players. I kinda think the JP players know more about the game.

Kazemi
Mar 21, 2009, 05:45 PM
*cough* (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2272363&postcount=15)

there's the math and its supportive of what JP players figured and not what those with no proof insist.

bloodflowers
Mar 22, 2009, 11:56 PM
That source is from the PSU uploader, mainly used by the JP players. I kinda think the JP players know more about the game.

Yes, it's physically impossible for Japanese people to be incorrect. One was once, allegedly, but a rift in space/time appeared and swallowed them up. On top of this, the Japanese servers (which had two worlds once upon a time) are clearly identical in every way to the North American ones.

It was always suspected to be 200, and this has been confirmed by various GMs from time to time. I believe them.

System-Id
Mar 23, 2009, 12:06 AM
There is no population O.O
i ate teh stars :D

Arika
Mar 23, 2009, 12:25 AM
Similar to what Namine said, but..
I think it is more like..

empty star = 0-75 (mid point = 50)
full star = 76-125 (mid point = 100)
1.5 star= 126-175 (mid point = 150)
2 star = 176-225. (mid point = 200)
2.5 star = 226-275 (mid point 250)
3 star = 276-325 (mid point 300)
4 star = 326-375 (mid point 350)
4.5 star = 376-425 (mid point 400)
5 star = 476-500

that is why you always see 5 star -> full universe is might more quicker than 1 star change to 1.5 stars.
(but it is still possible to be 525, that is what I dunno, I won't say more until I m really confident in the max 500 or 525)

My event http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2273982#post2273982
has 102 register and 24 staffs but the peak time I tried to find is still only 1 star.

even at the end game, where the result data showed that more than 92 people come to line up for trade their stuff (add staffs there, it will be higher than 100 people for sure, but I still see only 1 full star.. this prove that 1 full star can have higher than 100)

Well, not JP uploader has to correct on everything, first, he might never use program to really counts people head like this, and second, uploader can be upped by anybody.

misstigress
Mar 23, 2009, 12:26 AM
Yes, it's physically impossible for Japanese people to be incorrect. One was once, allegedly, but a rift in space/time appeared and swallowed them up. On top of this, the Japanese servers (which had two worlds once upon a time) are clearly identical in every way to the North American ones.

It was always suspected to be 200, and this has been confirmed by various GMs from time to time. I believe them.

Then provide us with some actual proof in the form of a quote from a GM, will you? Until then, you and your cohorts can continue to spew the "A GM SED SO!11" all you like -- there are those of us who will refuse to believe you nonetheless.

Logically speaking, I see no reason why the Japanese servers would support FEWER players than the NA servers.

ShuttleXpC
Mar 23, 2009, 02:04 AM
13 parties per page at the mission counter and stops listing parties a bit into the 9th page. i know this because one event on a full universe i couldn't find a friend's party listed since it overflowed.

can't remember how many it lists on the last page so we'll just go with 8 full pages...
8 * 13 * 4 (for event missions) = 416 players

not all of those parties are gonna be full and then there's those that aren't counted. throw in the mob of players in the lobby looking for a party and such, the people dancing down on the 4th floor, those hanging in their room that are still bound to that universe and that'll likely put things around the 500 mark.

so from that i'd agree with the 500 theory. kinda doubt a single server could handle 1000 players anyways simply because of the sheer amount of processing power that would be needed.

FYI...Eve Online runs 1 single server with 45,000 people connected regularly. So --->