Falz or Flow?

[Tefno]

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[psofan219]

Hmm, this is a tough one... I'm gonna say Flow. Sure, Falz is hard and all, but you can get hit with numerous ailments during the Flow fight, which makes it extra fun because it cripples your ability to attack. His Divine Punishment actually can kill you, unlike Falz, his just hurts. A lot. I like both of them, but since I can only choose one -- Olga Flow. He just presents a bigger challenge in my opinion.

[AlexCraig]

Tough call for me. See, I look at it from a different POV.

Falz: A god of death from another world, sealed and cast away in a spaceship to an uncharted planet which we just so happened to come across. We foolishly unseal IT and are forced into mortal vs immortal combat (because remember, Dark Falz does not die and will be reborn ages later on).

Flow: Once a man, now a monster formed through mankind's tampering with things he shouldn't. A research subject that went berserk, now cast aside in an abysmal pit in the earth and sea, waiting in misery for someone to kill him. We then show up and duel with the fallen hero to grant him his peace.

[psofan219]

Tough call for me. See, I look at it from a different POV.

Falz: A god of death from another world, sealed and cast away in a spaceship to an uncharted planet which we just so happened to come across. We foolishly unseal IT and are forced into mortal vs immortal combat (because remember, Dark Falz does not die and will be reborn ages later on).

Flow: Once a man, now a monster formed through mankind's tampering with things he shouldn't. A research subject that went berserk, now cast aside in an abysmal pit in the earth and sea, waiting in misery for someone to kill him. We then show up and duel with the fallen hero to grant him his peace.

This could be used as a Pro/Epilogue for this game. Seriously. It also sounds epic...

[Kyrith_Ranger_Pso]

falz I hate flow's one hit k.o. move it killed me on normal with like a lvl 60 character.

[DC_PLAYER]

Well, sometimes i see movies of ppl killing olga flow very fast and if we look correctly many of his attacks can be avoided and in some cases the boss just stands there not doing anything.

So in the end i prefer falz, especially since in ver.2 the double blade slash in online will make some serious heavy damage.

[Aisha_Clan-Clan]

flow's one hit k.o. move it killed me on normal with like a lvl 60 character.

Same when my Fonewearl wasl lvl 80. =x.x=

[halibabica]

I prefer to fight Olga Flow, personally. Sure, you can avoid his attacks, but you have to run around a lot to do so. You have to pay a lot more attention to him than Falz, because almost none of Falz's moves can be avoided.

I do get really irritated by Olga Flow's fatal Divine Punishment, but now that I know how it actually works, he doesn't get me with it as often. For those who don't know...the rays strike down underneath Gael, Giel, and Olga Flow himself. Don't want to get hit? Get as far from the three of them as you can!

[Randomness]

Falz is a cheapass. Rafoie, Rabarta, and Grants that are pretty much undodgeable.

At least Flow can be avoided. Actually, his first form is the hardest to dodge. The second can't hurt you if you stay WAY back. (Y'know, with a rifle!)

Also, Flow's final form is just epic.

[psofan219]

His Divine Punishment must be a OHKO attack. In fact, I believe that it gets stronger the closer you are to either him, Gael, or Giel, which is why it generates the OHKO in the first place. There have been instances where I was hit with it and survived, but never at melee range. Probably more in between melee and mechgun, but closer to mechgun range I'd say. I know it's an AoE attack... just has a really small radius. Falz has all those unavoidable attacks, which can be very annoying, especially if he hits you before you can heal. Plus, I like the fact that you transform during the Flow fight into Flowen. That's awesome, especially if you use the Flowen's Frame/Shield/Sword in combination, it'll be like you're playing Flowen himself! "Where's Rico!?"

[RAcast Extremist]

I prefer Flow. You could run around him like ants. While Falz you could only run in a circle around it.

[Genoa]

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1001
With my current characters, only my HUcaseal survives this attack.
I believe the damage shown in this link is correct, seeing my second highest HP character is my FOnewearl, with 850ish HP, and always gets killed by the God Punishment, where my HUcaseal with around 1150ish HP survives.

EDIT:
As for the original question xD
I really enjoy fighting Olga Flow, I like his theme.
However the battle seems to be significantly easier than Falz, and this is ONLY because Falz is down-right fierce with his Rabarta and Rafoie chain. Rabarta doesn't knock you down, regardless of your HP. Rafoie knocks you down for a good while, but with high EFR or high HP... you DON'T get knockdowned from Rafoie either, making it quite deadly as well. And ever so often the triple darvant spawn following the tech spam catches me at a bad time.

As for there role in the story, I love how Alex put it. Very nostalgic.

btw, no Saint Million / Shambertin / Kondrieu?

Personally, I don't like them at all :/ not a very epic battle...
Area is way too big for it's own good too.

[Ithildin]

I'm gonna go for vulgar Olga. Mainly because I was so shocked when I saw his second form for the first time. I hadn't been able to get to his second form offline. Eventually I got online and I joined a party doing some seabed runs. We got all the way through to the boss, defeated his first form and then wow! You all know the rest.

[Akruta]

Same when my Fonewearl wasl lvl 80. =x.x=

He did that to my level 70 HUmar... After I killed him at a much earlier at like 55. I was like... Meh and I went back to Ep. 1 Very Hard.

[minimumjoker45]

i gotta say flow..he kicked my ass on pso..lvl 124 cast died....on hard..oh yea he owns..they need to bring him bck on psu so i can get my revenge

[TrueChaos]

Flow has got some much more grand attacks, like Heaven Punisher and that wave of light that goes across the floor. Falz has more simple attacks, like Frants, Rabarta and Rafoie. though he does have Heaven Punisher, too. not fought Flow for a while and don't fight him very often so for that reason i would say Flow as, where i fight Falz a lot i've become used to him whereas Flow is still a bit of a challenge. even at over lvl 100 on v.hard he still gives me trouble.

[halibabica]

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1001


I don't think this guide's entirely accurate. It says there's no way of knowing when Olga Flow changes his attributes around, but that's not true. Whenever he jumps to the middle of the room and surrounds himself with that blue fog, he's randomly changed his weakness/attribute. I didn't know ??? Attribute meant he was any of the four usual kinds, but I think this also depends on his current weakness. Whenever I fought him with the same weapon over and over, I noticed that he was only succeptible to it after soul-swapping when his elemental weakness was Zonde. Maybe there are some mysteries to explore here.

Gael and Giel's bombs also change with Olga Flow's attributes, and colliding with one can tell you what his current weakness is.

[psofan219]

I thought that those abnormalities were randomly generated? They surely seem like they are... I've been hit (if memory serves me correctly) with both Shock and Confusion once (no, not at the same time, but in the same time period from when he had his first weakness of the 2nd fight to the time where he changed it the first time. Make sense?)

[halibabica]

Hmm...not so sure about that. I need to look into it more, as I'm not sure if Gael's bombs are different from Giel's. From what I've seen, though, the bombs cause:

Shock when Flow's weak to Zonde
Freeze when he's weak to Barta
Confuse when he's weak to Grants
???Fire damage??? when he's weak to Foie (not sure, haven't encountered this yet)

There have also been times I've been hit by Gael/iel's bombs where no status was inflicted and I only took damage. I noticed the status problems only changed when Flow changed his weakness, so I assume they are related (as I do with his enemy type shift as well).

BUT, I don't know any of this for sure, and I'll have to fight 'im a few more times before I can figure it out. Sounds like we got another mystery to solve! Come on, gang! *jumps in tacky van*

[Genoa]

Hmm...not so sure about that. I need to look into it more, as I'm not sure if Gael's bombs are different from Giel's. From what I've seen, though, the bombs cause:

Shock when Flow's weak to Zonde
Freeze when he's weak to Barta
Confuse when he's weak to Grants
???Fire damage??? when he's weak to Foie (not sure, haven't encountered this yet)

There have also been times I've been hit by Gael/iel's bombs where no status was inflicted and I only took damage. I noticed the status problems only changed when Flow changed his weakness, so I assume they are related (as I do with his enemy type shift as well).

BUT, I don't know any of this for sure, and I'll have to fight 'im a few more times before I can figure it out. Sounds like we got another mystery to solve! Come on, gang! *jumps in tacky van*

Tests would have to be done on a Norm-Vhard difficulty and Ultimate, to make sure that Ultimate isn't any different.
I wouldn't mind doing some tests for Ultimate sometime.

[UnluckyHunter]

Flow is without a doubt better designed, but I rarely fight him because of the Seabed (good design, but a pain). I just like fighting Falz more because he's so much more predictable and so makes for an easier fight.

[MAD1b]

Same when my Fonewearl wasl lvl 80. =x.x=

same here lol normal mode with a lvl 82 or 86 (i forgot) ramarl. i was so mad/confused.

[Crazyleo]

(Should have made this into a poll ;-))

I like to fight Faltz more than Flow. Mainly because I can anticipate what Faltz is about to do. With Flow, I've spent about as much time running (playing a racast) as I am shooting.

[psofan219]

It's quite easy for me to determine what Flow will do next.

[Lance813]

Didn't we just have this topic?

Oh well, I say Flow. Because I've killed Falz way to many times to have any fun anymore. (bar low level ult runs)

[hunterseifer]

I prefer flow, It feels more epic when fighting him

[Tefno]

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[Tefno]

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[Lance813]

Dude, chill out. I was just saying that there was one of these not to long ago. No need to take offense.

Random said that flow's final form was epic. What don't you get about that?

[RAcast Extremist]

Randomness You said Flow as a FINAL FORM?????

His final form would be the one when he walks.

[jkrox4eva]

I prefer falz, only because I enjoy playing Ep.1 more :P

[TheRealFlow]

I'd have to say Flow. I just think it's more fun to fight him then Falz.

[Nisoth]

I prefer Dark Falz. He's less frustrating in general.