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Dark Emerald EXE
Apr 21, 2009, 03:09 PM
http://i29.tinypic.com/4sma1d.png
If i remember correctly, this is the 10% Grinding Boost we got from MAG. But if it was 15% then:

S Rank:
0->1- 105% (100%)
1->2- 105% (100%)
2->3- 99%
3->4- 93.75%
4->5- 88.50%
5->6- 85%
6>7- 81.50%
7->8- 78%
8->9- 71%
9->10- 67.50%


So we're gonna see alot of stuff being high grinded.....well maybe.... i'd guess thats if you had 0* Luck I'm not sure what 3* adds to the grinding process.
Last grinding boost we had on average i could get about 95% of my grinded weapons to 8 no problem So who knows........

Dhylec
Apr 21, 2009, 03:12 PM
Without knowing the exact %, you can tell that it's better than the 10% boost, even it's just a little. ;]

james_b
Apr 21, 2009, 05:06 PM
Wasn't it 1/10 chance to take a weapon(S class) to 10 with the 10% boost? If so, then this one should be around 1/6 chance.

Yunfa
Apr 21, 2009, 06:31 PM
What do I think? ......... >8D *rubs hands greedily*

joefro
Apr 21, 2009, 07:58 PM
What do I think? ......... >8D *rubs hands greedily*

I smell a 0/8 agito repca.:-P

Yunfa
Apr 21, 2009, 08:20 PM
I smell a 0/8 agito repca.:-P

*chuckle* We shall see once the time comes; my post was referring to what the market will become after "Shred the Market."

Alnet
Apr 21, 2009, 08:24 PM
I hope we get the next Arms Dealer update during this, because I'd like to see how this works with Guld Milla.

Skyly
Apr 21, 2009, 08:45 PM
Mann... I Need it.. cause regualr grinding now is no joke!!
Don'y DO IT!!
save all your 0/10s for the boost.

ShonagarACE
Apr 21, 2009, 09:57 PM
Mann... I Need it.. cause regualr grinding now is no joke!!
Don'y DO IT!!
save all your 0/10s for the boost.

Yes, don't attempt to even get something to 2/10! It's impossible!

douglas55
Apr 22, 2009, 05:10 AM
To summarize the 15% grinding boost:

S-ranks

25% chance to get 10/10 when using S+10s

A-ranks

50% chance to get 10/10 when using A+10s

The end.

Dark Emerald EXE
Apr 22, 2009, 08:18 AM
To summarize the 15% grinding boost:

S-ranks

25% chance to get 10/10 when using S+10s

A-ranks

50% chance to get 10/10 when using A+10s

The end.

You had to ruin my fun >.>
lol

Alecc
Apr 22, 2009, 11:47 AM
i smell tons of broken weapons :D :D

Maboroshi Daikon
Apr 22, 2009, 01:08 PM
I created the 10% chart in Excel and modified it to 15%. It's all calculated so I can modify the percentages with one change:

PNG image of 15% grind chart (http://flickcabin.com/public/view/full/28395)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9163/psugrindingboost15pct.png

mvffin
Apr 22, 2009, 01:36 PM
sweet

Dark Emerald EXE
Apr 22, 2009, 01:59 PM
Idk if its my computer but for me its stops at S 3 -> 4 for me

EDIT: O it was loading.....
guess its this low wireless connection im usin.

Deragonite
Apr 22, 2009, 02:02 PM
I created the 10% chart in Excel and modified it to 15%. It's all calculated so I can modify the percentages with one change:

PNG image of 15% grind chart (http://flickcabin.com/public/view/full/28395)

i'm curious as to where you got those numbers...

not saying i don't believe them, just curious.

Dark Emerald EXE
Apr 22, 2009, 02:09 PM
i'm curious as to where you got those numbers...

not saying i don't believe them, just curious.

http://i29.tinypic.com/4sma1d.png
This chart right here is 10% Grinding Boost that we recieved from MAG.
What he/she did was made a chart that was 15% oppose to the 10%
I haven't looked through the whole chart but basically what was done was to add 5% to each number.

If you look at my S+10 example in my first post, u'll see that he/she's chart is exactly the same.

Maboroshi Daikon
Apr 22, 2009, 02:15 PM
i'm curious as to where you got those numbers...

not saying i don't believe them, just curious.

1st post in this thread + 5%. I'd seen them posted around MAG as well, so they've been kicking around for a while.

I've also got a full A-Rank chart for 0 luck -> 3 luck with no grind boost that seems to track with this one (though they're probably the same source). No C, B or S rank ones, unfortunately, so the chart isn't accurate if I go below 10% bonus.

As for where those numbers originally come from, I'm not sure. We do have 5 real data points to work with for each grind point, so someone may have just calculated the numbers out based off of the basic charts. When you check this chart with the one in Japan, the colors end up the same (for the data points that are in the chart).

http://tinyurl.com/c6gvp9


I haven't looked through the whole chart but basically what was done was to add 5% to each number.

I created a spreadsheet and used the numbers off that chart -10%. For A-Ranks, I've got the whole 0% boost chart, but for the others I fudged it a bit. At 0% - 9% it isn't entirely accurate. At 10%, it matches the chart you posted and I've posted the chart at 15%.

Overlord Zenon
Apr 22, 2009, 02:33 PM
I never could decide on grinding my weapons, thats likely why they cost me so little to buy in the first place

Shou
Apr 22, 2009, 02:45 PM
I wonder if this boost will drive the price of s+10 grinders to an all-time high compared to the other grind boosts we have had so far.

Randomness
Apr 22, 2009, 06:23 PM
Makes me happy that I got 10 S+9s out of three boards.

I still have like 45-50 bases to process too.

Based off the 10% chart above, with 15%, you have about a 21% chance of a S-rank going to 10/10 with S+10s.

Shou
Apr 22, 2009, 06:38 PM
I think I have about a stack and a half of s+10s and a few stacks of s+9s o.o

Whatever I don't use myself will be huge profit! $$$

MelanyKoura
Apr 22, 2009, 06:41 PM
haha, you liked my nickname for the event, huh?

Also, is there any chance we could get these charts in 3star luck mode? That would be very helpful ^^

I second that. o.o I'd like to see what the grind rates would be at with three star luck factored in as well. It may not be a big bonus, but it IS still a bonus.

str898mustang
Apr 22, 2009, 07:13 PM
that is picture is with 3 luck. Anyone who grinds on 0-2 luck is crazy,

MelanyKoura
Apr 22, 2009, 07:19 PM
I was under the impression that was only the 15% grind boost we're getting from the event. D:

str898mustang
Apr 22, 2009, 07:20 PM
they always show the 3 luck rates though

Sinue_v2
Apr 22, 2009, 08:22 PM
Yes, don't attempt to even get something to 2/10! It's impossible!

Coincidentally enough, I got an Arza Promote the other day and spent 11 +2 Grinders. By the time I was done it was 1/3 and I never got it above +2. I had it break several times on the very first grind - which should be 100% according to that chart.

I never expected to get far with only +2 grinders but... really? Really?!? Breaking on the first grind three times in a row?

On the upswing, my bad luck on the grind was negated by pulling out a +40 Light Carriguine-Rucar. I just won't be trying to grind it before selling/trading it.

beatrixkiddo
Apr 22, 2009, 08:28 PM
Coincidentally enough, I got an Arza Promote the other day and spent 11 +2 Grinders. By the time I was done it was 1/3 and I never got it above +2. I had it break several times on the very first grind - which should be 100% according to that chart.

I never expected to get far with only +2 grinders but... really? Really?!? Breaking on the first grind three times in a row?

On the upswing, my bad luck on the grind was negated by pulling out a +40 Light Carriguine-Rucar. I just won't be trying to grind it before selling/trading it.

It would be 100% with the bonus. We don't have that bonus yet.

Maboroshi Daikon
Apr 22, 2009, 08:30 PM
I was under the impression that was only the 15% grind boost we're getting from the event. D:


they always show the 3 luck rates though

Yeah, the calculations are definitely 3 star luck. If I set the spreadsheet to -5% the chart lines up with the 0 luck charts.

-5% = 0 luck
-4% = 1 luck
-2% = 2 luck
0% = 3 luck

The chart I posted was at +15%.

Sinue_v2
Apr 22, 2009, 08:37 PM
Regardless, even without the bonus the first grind is pretty damned close to, if not 100%, no matter what modifier your grinder is. To fail the first grind three times in a row is still a run of insanely bad luck and in keeping with the sarcasm of the quip I quoted.

Edit: I also had MegaHoly luck at the time, whatever modifiers that may add.

ShonagarACE
Apr 22, 2009, 08:40 PM
Regardless, even without the bonus the first grind is pretty damned close to, if not 100%, no matter what modifier your grinder is. To fail the first grind three times in a row is still a run of insanely bad luck and in keeping with the sarcasm of the quip I quoted.

Just curious, did you have 3* luck? Because without that, your chances with +2 grinders aren't that great.

Randomness
Apr 22, 2009, 09:58 PM
Out of curiosity, anyone have a table for A ranks? There's a few kubara things I want to upgrade some once we get the bonus.

beatrixkiddo
Apr 22, 2009, 10:02 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/beatrix_kiddo/PSUGrindchart.png?t=1240455713

C through S, 3* luck.

This is with the 10% boost, so add 5 to them...

(this is the same image that's on the first page by the way)