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LiL_Beast
Apr 23, 2009, 10:09 AM
i got home today looking forward to play psu like always :D

and it says,

"your access to the Phantast Star
Universe Server is currently Disabled.

Please see the user's manual for contact information
for further information."

does this mean im banned?

and is there a way i can find out how long im banned for?

Rust
Apr 23, 2009, 10:51 AM
Yeah, that means you're banned.
Can't reply to your second question, but I'd say your ban is related to this:

http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?t=103115

ashley50
Apr 23, 2009, 10:59 AM
hmmm that's prolly it lol.

LiL_Beast
Apr 23, 2009, 11:00 AM
so i get banend for trying to sell my points? thats really stupid.

is there anything i can do?

or will i be unbanned within a time?

lethe
Apr 23, 2009, 11:06 AM
Selling MS points for meseta is about the same as buying meseta, you buy MS points for money, redeem MS points for things that would cost you money. In a sense MS points are money just only worth anything on xbox live. Kinda like if you couldnt convert the US dollar to another countries money.

gamewarp
Apr 23, 2009, 11:06 AM
is there anything i can do?

submit a ticket to help.sega.com

pinkace
Apr 23, 2009, 11:11 AM
It violates ToS, so it certianly isn't 'gay'.

But what I didn't know is that ANYONE can report this... do they even check up on this? If I posted that lethe is selling weed on Uni 2 Tenora works, do they investigate before banning him?

lethe
Apr 23, 2009, 11:15 AM
It violates ToS, so it certianly isn't 'gay'.

But what I didn't know is that ANYONE can report this... do they even check up on this? If I posted that lethe is selling weed on Uni 2 Tenora works, do they investigate before banning him?

Im pretty sure they investigate. >.> and how'd you know about uni 2 tenora works? jk

LiL_Beast
Apr 23, 2009, 11:16 AM
do you think ill get unbanned?

ashley50
Apr 23, 2009, 11:17 AM
try submitting and ticket first then see/wait what happens.

lethe
Apr 23, 2009, 11:18 AM
do you think ill get unbanned?

Like it was already said, best to submit a ticket.

Turb0
Apr 23, 2009, 11:19 AM
It violates ToS, so it certianly isn't 'gay'.

But what I didn't know is that ANYONE can report this... do they even check up on this? If I posted that lethe is selling weed on Uni 2 Tenora works, do they investigate before banning him?

They should. The only time I've been involved in something like this Ruby had to check the trade logs before he banned the guy who scammed me for 60 mil.

LiL_Beast
Apr 23, 2009, 11:35 AM
how do i submit a ticket? lol :D

ashley50
Apr 23, 2009, 11:38 AM
have you read the previous post (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2297168&postcount=7) in this topic?

LiL_Beast
Apr 23, 2009, 11:48 AM
yes i pressed the link but i dont see how to do it on there

pokefiend
Apr 23, 2009, 11:48 AM
how do i submit a ticket? lol :D

garbage players like you ruin the game so i hope you are perminatly banned and you weren't even selling your ms points you would just take the 5mill then blist the person.

LiL_Beast
Apr 23, 2009, 11:50 AM
no i wasn't i just wanted money on the game -.-

ashley50
Apr 23, 2009, 11:54 AM
make an account there :l

Atomic646
Apr 23, 2009, 12:13 PM
garbage players like you ruin the game so i hope you are perminatly banned and you weren't even selling your ms points you would just take the 5mill then blist the person.

Lol, you're probably right, $20.00 (1600 MS) for 5 million lmao, should be asking for 20+mill if you were really going to trade for it. People put a low price to lure people in to scam. -_-

LiL_Beast
Apr 23, 2009, 12:16 PM
smd i wasnt scamming.

Atomic646
Apr 23, 2009, 12:31 PM
smd i wasnt scamming.

Maybe you were, Maybe you weren't. But adding together all the "Scam" experiences in the past that had "Sorta" the same lay out as you're so called legitimate trade, I don't blame people for being suspicious and reporting you.

Overlord Zenon
Apr 23, 2009, 12:56 PM
the selling of any currency for ingame currency will result in automatic ban in most games, due to the fact i do beleive it is illegal actually.

NiceOnes
Apr 23, 2009, 01:06 PM
the selling of any currency for ingame currency will result in automatic ban in most games, due to the fact i do beleive it is illegal actually.

It is not illegal to sell in game currency for RW currency or vice versa.

It is against the ToS in PSU as well as all MMO games I know of simply due to the fact that it creates an unbalance in the economy.

To claim there will be legal repercussions for this action is simply illogical. Who and for what reason would write that law, let alone have it passed?!

JAFO22000
Apr 23, 2009, 01:35 PM
It is not illegal to sell in game currency for RW currency or vice versa.

It is against the ToS in PSU as well as all MMO games I know of simply due to the fact that it creates an unbalance in the economy.

To claim there will be legal repercussions for this action is simply illogical. Who and for what reason would write that law, let alone have it passed?!

Well it could be argued that all intellectual property pertaining to the game (i.e. everything in the game; weapons, meseta, character data) all belongs to Sega and they own the rights to it. If items or meseta are duped and then sold for money, someone else is profiting off of Sega's trademarked property which is illegal. This is tantamount to bootlegging. There's a reason bootlegging is illegal.

It doesn't matter how much time, effort, skill or whatever it took you to "earn" all of your in-game items; in the end they all still are sole property of Sega. If you sell it for profit without an agreement with Sega then you are committing an illegal act (though I'm sure they wouldn't take action unless the sold items gained a significant amount of revenue OR if sold items were ruining their game so much that they couldn't profit on it).

NiceOnes
Apr 23, 2009, 01:47 PM
Well it could be argued that all intellectual property pertaining to the game (i.e. everything in the game; weapons, meseta, character data) all belongs to Sega and they own the rights to it. If items or meseta are duped and then sold for money, someone else is profiting off of Sega's trademarked property which is illegal. This is tantamount to bootlegging. There's a reason bootlegging is illegal.

It doesn't matter how much time, effort, skill or whatever it took you to "earn" all of your in-game items; in the end they all still are sole property of Sega. If you sell it for profit without an agreement with Sega then you are committing an illegal act (though I'm sure they wouldn't take action unless the sold items gained a significant amount of revenue OR if sold items were ruining their game so much that they couldn't profit on it).

I guess I didn't think hard enough about this. Very valid point. I've been corrected.

Overlord Zenon
Apr 23, 2009, 01:58 PM
i can see the unbalancing the biggest i've ever heard of tho is WoW certain games i know you can purchase in game money, but this usually that ive seen in modern games, can only be done once.

Warlock01
Apr 23, 2009, 04:01 PM
if you get unbanned, just wait for guardains cash. dont waste your time and other people's time with this nonsense. i blacklisted you because you were rappidly spamming your message.
im pretty sure hundred's if not thousand's of other people have done the same.
so even if you do get back online, expect to see "you are unable to join x player's game at this time"

also, you were warned several times by other player's not to keep it up, but you did.
IMO ban is very fair and should only be removed when you learn some common sense and decide to play the game like the rest of us.

LiL_Beast
Apr 23, 2009, 04:47 PM
ok thanks and sorry

but does anyone know how long these ban's last? :)

Turb0
Apr 23, 2009, 05:01 PM
IIRC the "currently disabled" message is the permaban message and it displays a different one for bans for a certain length of time. I've never been banned so I don't know for sure (maybe someone who got banned for the s+10s would know) but I think I remember reading that somewhere on the forums.

AngelofEnders
Apr 23, 2009, 05:07 PM
I was caught breaking the law and I went to jail for it. WHY?!

LiL_Beast
Apr 23, 2009, 05:12 PM
I was caught breaking the law and I went to jail for it. WHY?!

what? lol

AngelofEnders
Apr 23, 2009, 05:16 PM
You're banned? lol

WHlTEKNIGHT
Apr 23, 2009, 06:20 PM
I know of 1 person you took 5mill off then blacklisted, so hopefully you aren't coming back and I am sure there are more.

Aries2384
Apr 23, 2009, 08:16 PM
I got banned long ago during mag. Ive never scammed, duped, mgg'd etc etc. My best guess is some 12 year old little bitch had a problem with me booting him out of a party because he was being a dumbass.

At any rate, I sent messages in etc etc. I go no reply, nothing. No explanation for why I was banned. But I figured out that they didnt ban my account, they banned my xbox's serial for some reason.
I had made a new account after thinking my old one was lost and I couldnt even log onto that account... however, if i tried to log onto a new xbox and played, it worked fine.

So, if you have a buddy who doesnt play psu, see if you can console swap and see if thats the problem.

Dont try and say you're innocent to all these people on Pso-world.. mostly theyre just like "everyone says that" or w/e.. generally no help at all.

Waki Miko Syamemaru!
Apr 23, 2009, 08:21 PM
This is why I play with people I know and trust. Because I know if I recruit some little twat and boot said twat after he/she starts crap and does what Aries says I'mma be pissed.

LiL_Beast
Apr 24, 2009, 04:40 AM
So, if you have a buddy who doesnt play psu, see if you can console swap and see if thats the problem.


tried it dont work :(

hope i aint banned forever

Atomic646
Apr 24, 2009, 07:56 AM
You're banned? lol

Are you lost?! lol ^^

PACHI
Apr 24, 2009, 08:37 AM
the selling of any currency for ingame currency will result in automatic ban in most games, due to the fact i do beleive it is illegal actually.

Your right about the first part. But in the U.S., it is not illegal to buy things off a video game or online service (unless it deals with child pornography, Drugs/Firearms, etc.) Its only illegal with the "Terms of Use" with PSU.

Edit: The trademark and copyright only protect the game from legit bootleg (CD copying/hacking,) patent logos, sole possission of Phantasy star owned by Sega, and all contents of PSU. All items do belong to Sega, though no law protects Sega with this transaction. Only if the game was manipulated with software or illegal copies. Im reading somemore chapters on trademark/copyright property.


Update::"Criminal infringement of a copyright" Title 18 Part I Ch. 113. ~ Please read this chapter carefully (grab your book lawyers, or just search the net). The federal Law only protects the copyright with U.S. tender transactions without the notice and permission by the copyright.

Only a state law could possibly prosecute you for "Fantasized currency". What state do you live in? I dont know about JP Copyright laws, but it could be out of jurisdiction.

LiL_Beast
Apr 24, 2009, 09:54 AM
Your acces to the Phantasy Star
Universe Server is currently disabled.

Please see the user's manual for contact information
for futher information.


does this mean permently banned?

or banned for a preiod of time?

thanks

NiceOnes
Apr 24, 2009, 10:02 AM
You have a thread going already. Submit a ticket already like everyone has instructed you to do already.

Otherwise I'd suggest you go play WoW because from what I've heard you're not the innocent you proclaim that you are.

Stop wasting our time.

Sano
Apr 24, 2009, 10:25 AM
You are permanently banned.

Overlord Zenon
Apr 24, 2009, 10:27 AM
id say its not an error message but a direct staff message to you...

beatrixkiddo
Apr 24, 2009, 10:29 AM
Your acces to the Phantasy Star
Universe Server is currently disabled.

Please see the user's manual for contact information
for futher information.


does this mean permently banned?

or banned for a preiod of time?

thanks

It means gtfo and go play Halo 3.

str898mustang
Apr 24, 2009, 10:32 AM
looks like someone has some short-term memory. GTFO u scammer.

Powder Keg
Apr 24, 2009, 10:32 AM
Are or illiterate or decide not to read the replies in your previous thread?

ShonagarACE
Apr 24, 2009, 10:36 AM
http://hornofgabriel.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/crying-ou-boy-screenshot.jpg

It's okay to cry.

LiL_Beast
Apr 24, 2009, 10:49 AM
http://hornofgabriel.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/crying-ou-boy-screenshot.jpg

It's okay to cry.

i aint crying nerd

i wanted to know if i was perm banned so i knew if i had to make a new account.

ShonagarACE
Apr 24, 2009, 10:56 AM
i aint crying nerd

i wanted to know if i was perm banned so i knew if i had to make a new account.

Well, now you know. And conveniently, now your new thread is merged with the one where people already gave you the information you were looking for. Have fun getting banned again!

Dhylec
Apr 24, 2009, 11:18 AM
This is replied, discussed & now doen. Contact Sega if you want their answer, we can't do much for your banning here. I can only stop the flame-baits & insults.
Guys, behave.