Shotgun Multihit...

[Dymalos]

In a thread I was perusing here a while back I saw someone make reference to Shigga Pakuda's superior multihit abilities due to it's larger shots. Is there any truth to this? Meaning is it more likely that a single shot from a Pakuda's spread will hit a given hit box more than once when compared to say a Baret or the standard 1-9* Shotgun spreads?

If so, as a Guntecher, which weapon would have a better chance at multihitting, the Standard Shigga Bines/Bomac or a Madam Brella?

[Dhylec]

Hm, I wish I have a Pakuda to confirm this.

[CJ Johnny]

I wouldn't say 'superior multihit abilities'.

However, with own experince.
I've seen up to >7< number's pop up from a single shot of a Shotgun.

Not with a Pakuda.
Had seen it with Desta, Baret, and SNG.

I can't tell you that.
If, If there is any possibility with your Bullet at caped (50) may increase the chance for it to happen.
Not sure if that will count as a 7 hit for PA's Exp.

All I can say is. It does happen with S-Shotgun.
Futher more not even sure If that is suppose to happen. Or it's a Shotgun bug. (may need to be fix in the near future)

[Gibdozer]

I used the Pakuda for awhile and didn't notice anything exceptional about its multi-hit over any of the other S-rank shottys. I only used it long enough to become sick of its bullet animation(about 10 runs) so I could have missed something, but it seemed like a pretty standard gun to me.

[Dymalos]

So the consensus seems to be that all Shotguns spreads are created equal? So far there's been confirmations of multihit for most the standard Tenora Works S ranks... so does it happen with C's B's or A's or Kubara S's?

Also in a related posting, I once asked if Barada Chamga was a suitable albeit expensive and weaker substitute for the Elements, I was told that Chamga was incapable of multihitting. While I have no reason to question the response, it'd be great if I could get someone to second that.

[beatrixkiddo]

the point i made (since you're referring to a post i made) was that pakuda is better at double hitting than a kubara copy is. the kubara copy has tiny plain bullets, which don't have as large of a splash radius as the unique bullets do, in my experience.

[Dymalos]

Alright, cool. I'm sorry for failing to note you as the source I wasn't able to bring up your post again in through a search.

From your experience are there any other shotguns that seemingly perform better than the normal 1-9 and Kubara spread?

[beatrixkiddo]

mainly the s-ranks. madam brella (on top of having very nice stats when grinded, probably the best a-rank shotty for females) has a unique bullet so it may be a little bit better for splash and multihit.

[Exolithus]

Meaning is it more likely that a single shot from a Pakuda's spread will hit a given hit box more than once


dont think so, the bullet disappears after hitting a hitbox, so it cant hit one target two times.

exept you are standing in front of an enemie and shoot him, then ofcause, you hit him 5 times (larger enemies with more than one hitbox could be hitted more with one shoot)

but if the bullet hit's between two targets, both will get dmg of this one shoot

besides i dont think larger bullets have a highter chance to hit more...i dont think the hitbox of this bullet is bigger then a hitbox of a normal shoot, it's compare to swords...only because the sword is bigger you cant hit more enemies with it (exept for special abilities) in psu because every same weapontyp has the same hitbox

[Warlock01]

i noticed shotguns hit 5 times twice if 2 enemies are right beside eachother. i usually 1hit kill nava creatures, and 2 were beside each other and both died.
they dont die if i only hit them with 4 bullets.

[mvffin]

i noticed shotguns hit 5 times twice if 2 enemies are right beside eachother. i usually 1hit kill nava creatures, and 2 were beside each other and both died.
they dont die if i only hit them with 4 bullets.

this is probably the best indication of splash damage, and the easiest way to explain it.

[CJ Johnny]

Pretty much we can all comfirm with the call "Mulit Hit Syndrom"

Well! With any type of Shotgun. I guess it doesn't make any diff from a C, B, A, or S. Any maker's as well.

And now rise another question. 'Which it's a Good think or Bad'?
If I recall correctly.
They did mention somthing in related with Shotgun bullet, Which we can not do Point Blank.
But, that was at the time when 1UP. And just prior the AOTI was released.

For the 'Barada Chamga' It's pretty good.
It will give you the ATP of which ever Shotgun you are using, without the element %
http://psupedia.info/Barada_Chamga

[biggabertha]

Ahhh... I so wish Hrith was around...


I've wanted to know for sure if a Shigga Pakuda is easier to double-shot with than a Shogga Baret. I've always thought that a Shigga Desta was the best because it physically LOOKS like it's a bigger bullet than the puny ones that a Shigga Baret has.

True enough, after using a Shigga Baret long enough then going back to using a Shigga Desta, I was amazed to see how I couldn't kill Carriguines/Polavohras(spelling..?)/Bafal Braggas in a few shots (I can one-shot the Bafal Bragga in Magashi Plan A with Shigga Baret and Shigga Pakuda but not so easily with a Shigga Desta and pretty hard with a Shigga Barec).

Before we got a Shigga Pakuda though, I remember being told that a Shigga Baret is the easiet Shotgun to double shot with because of the bullet size. I'm wondering if the length of the barrel has anything to be mentioned about though since it seems like there's difference when using C/B rank Tenora/Kubara copy Shotguns to the A rank Tenora/Kubara copy shotgun.

It's the Shigga Baret, then the Madam Brella/Van Brella then the rest from what I remember. I love the looks of a Shigga Desta though (and Laia one shots a Dimmagolus with one too..!!) and I like my bullets to have a pretty animation.

Shigga Pakuda though... seems to be quite different to the Shigga Baret - I'm not sure if it's easier or harder to double shot with than a Shigga Baret just because I have to go back to using a Shigga Baret first... I've been so busy trying to kill Svaltus in as few shots as possible with my Shigga Pakuda but I can't seem to get a consistent amount of hits on them - those things must have some pretty good evasion and I'm not really awake enough to always remember about doing these tests.

Barada Chamga definitely does not double shot though. You can't break open four boxes alligned in a square formation with it at all. I've tried so many times in the past (but that was with a Shigga Desta...)

[Dymalos]

Sweet thanks for the confirmation on Chamga's lack of double shots.

Alright, from what I've gathered anything with a unique bullet seems to have a better double shot chance than the standard spread, except for maybe Desta. I'll go with Madam Brella on my GT then. Thanks alot.

[Warlock01]

this is probably the best indication of splash damage, and the easiest way to explain it.

splash damage! thats the term i was trying to think of lol

thanks! :)

[Hrith]

Shigga Pakuda is undoubtedly better than regular bullets, but it doesn't seem better than Shigga Baret.

Shigga Desta is actually barely better than regular bullets, despite looks.

[Dymalos]

Where would you say a Madam/Van Brella ranks on the "Baret > Pakuda > Desta > All Else" heirarchy?