Spread Needle/Gs lowered in price?

[The Overlord]

Is there a reason for this? Cause I see quite a few right now.

[GUNcrazy12]

yea, i have noticed them lower in price now... maybe cuz eveyone is getting high grinds on pakudacs and stuff (competition...)

[Volcompat321]

I sold mine cheap.
150 mil :D the cash is gone already, sold it 2 days ago, and didn't play yesterday.
(pc/ps2 server)

[Dymalos]

I'll second the notion that it's the increase in available Shigga Pakudacs that is driving down their price. Not many 10/10 SN/Gs were made, and now just about anyone who's determined enough will be able to score a few Pakudacs wholly made and try for their own 10/10s. Heh I went 9/10 on my first try and lost it going to 10.

[SEVENDUST]

if its a unbroke SN/G there now more in value then say a 9/9 or differently a 8/8.. cause chances you make gold with it now, boosted grindind and all

[SEVENDUST]

if its a unbroke SN/G there now worth more in value then say a 9/9 or differently a 8/8 one.. cause chances you can make gold with it now, boosted grindind and all

[SEVENDUST]

what the hell is wrong with my internet? it just add the my same post or something idk

[Volcompat321]

I hate grind boosts. I will never trust it again!
5/10 SN/g to 5/5................................................. ...................(Still sad)
Not to mention, I used ONLY S+10's on this thing. So I wasted about 25+ S+10's on it.

[mvffin]

it's because Pakudac +10 outdamages SNG +10. Seriously, my friend tested them, he said Pakudac did more damage more than half the time.

[Fox2Tails]

Someone offer me a Needle?

[Arika]

Honestly, SNG is like the only kubara GM shotgun with shooting effect, so I prefer that over pakudac anyway.

And I dunno if pakudac 10/10 even worth as much as SNG 0/10 or not.

the small damage different is not in my care.

[Volcompat321]

it's because Pakudac +10 outdamages SNG +10. Seriously, my friend tested them, he said Pakudac did more damage more than half the time.

I doubt this.
To test this, he would have had to used the same PA, on the same monster.
I tested the Baret(0/10), and Barec (5/10) using the dark shotty PA, against S level White beast creatures. The Barec was less than 25 damage lower than the Baret, and it offers more pp which is why I use that.
With the SN/g Vs. Pakudac you have SN/g's att at 235@10 and Pakudac @212att
It's impossible for it to out damage the SN/g but it is possible to match damage. Or get as close to the SN/g's damage as close as 25 damage difference.

Also, "more damage half the time" means he got more crits with the Pakudac, which is all luck, critical hits have no % for each weapon, it is pure luck.

[str898mustang]

I doubt this.
To test this, he would have had to used the same PA, on the same monster.
I tested the Baret(0/10), and Barec (5/10) using the dark shotty PA, against S level White beast creatures. The Barec was less than 25 damage lower than the Baret, and it offers more pp which is why I use that.
With the SN/g Vs. Pakudac you have SN/g's att at 235@10 and Pakudac @212att
It's impossible for it to out damage the SN/g but it is possible to match damage. Or get as close to the SN/g's damage as close as 25 damage difference.

Also, "more damage half the time" means he got more crits with the Pakudac, which is all luck, critical hits have no % for each weapon, it is pure luck.

Reason a Kudac 10/10 matches a SNG 10/10 is because of variance. A SNG has a variance of 35 which is a lot. Kudac has a variance of 9.

Variance = Highest damage - Lowest damage


Or u can get both like me :)
a 10/10 SNG and a 10/10 Pakudac, lol

[Dymalos]

Sweet. I wish more people would make an effort to catalog variance for all sorts of weapons.