PSO gameplay....

[Zeer]

I was wondering. I played other MMORPGs like UO, EQ, and DAoC for the PC, and I quit all of them. They boil down into nothing but slaying monsters over and over and over and over and over to increase your "statz". Those games are nothing but hunting some stupid monster for his phat lewt, spamming, and going "bling bling" when you level up. Does PSO end up being nothing but a level grinder game with no enviroment interaction? If so, I dont think I want to pay 9$ a month for it.

edit: If the only good aspect is social interaction, I'm not paying cash for Chatroom Advance either http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

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[GandorDurin]

Well, it's sort of half and half. Unfortunately both halves have the same purpose. The role-playing aspect of PSO is virtually non-existent, and gameplay relies entirely in the repetetive slaying of monsters. So there you have it!

[Zeer]

so... its kinda like a 3d futuristic Diablo 2 with a monthly fee and over 100$ in setup hardware. Hrm, i'll pass, thanks

[Goldstix69]

On 2003-02-19 16:21, Zeer wrote:
I was wondering. I played other MMORPGs like UO, EQ, and DAoC for the PC, and I quit all of them. They boil down into nothing but slaying monsters over and over and over and over and over to increase your "statz". Those games are nothing but hunting some stupid monster for his phat lewt, spamming, and going "bling bling" when you level up. Does PSO end up being nothing but a level grinder game with no enviroment interaction? If so, I dont think I want to pay 9$ a month for it.



Sounds like you answered your own question. MMORPGs are MMORPGs.

OF course PSO isn't just any MMORPG.. its more than that, the comunity is great, the rewards(Rares) is great, the game play is great.
HECK the whole game is GREAT... Buy it and try it out. you might fall in love with it.

[Zeer]

Um, you really cant "try" pso... lol

Game: 50
Keyboard: 80
Dialup Adapter: 30
Account: 9

It adds up, and there is no place to rent this game where I live. "Rares" aren't a thing for me, if I found a dog turd with gold teeth and moon dust in it, it would be considered rare, but I wouldn't want it. Just collecting stuff because its rare doesn't make much sense to me. The community isn't a buying point for me either, because I can have a community in a non-monthly-fee game. So I guess I did answer my own question.

[Bloodberry]

The problem is all the MMORPG had requisite massive downtimes after each fight, players that had typically no benefit in helping you, horrible graphics, and a fight system that consisted of pushing A and making a sandwich.

You will find none of that in PSO. There's level grind, as you're likely to find in every MMORPG, but the storyline is at least solid, boss fights are fun, killing monsters doesn't get too repetative, and it's directly in another player's favor to get into a game with you, if only for the rares, and if she/he is from PSOW, because they're nice. How's that sound? ^_^



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[Zeer]

Sounds abhorrent. Metroid Prime is one of the greatest games i've played, but I cant imagine beating it it 30 times a month. The fight with Metroid Prime is great, but once you beat him even twice, its too easy. Would get stale soon. As far as I'm concerned, i've seen PSO in action and it doesn't have very good graphics. NO better than AC2 for the PC. Thanks but no thanks.



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[Rhete]

OMG mark yur spoilers

[Bloodberry]

I was comparing it to EQ, AC, and DAOC, AC2 has a jump on it by about 2 years. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif It doesn't get so easy, i think. Ultimate is a real challenge at any time; there's a difference between PSO and MP, but it's kind of hard to define..

Ah well, looks like you've made up your mind anyways and it's your choice ^_^



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[savid]

!? Fight with "Metroid Prime"??? Ah great! Now ya ruined the game for me!

-Satoshi1 (can't find a way to log out of lil bro's account)

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[Atari]

well cancel off the 80$ cause you dont even need a keyboard to play

[MadCowChuck_]

Well, think what you may about MMORPGs, but PSO has a hell of a lot of replay value and the online portion of this game has many, MANY things to do. All MMORPGs are about level grinding at least some times...but if you know anything about D2, there isn't really and "Bloody Foothill" or "Hell Cow" runs in PSO. You need to actually work for levels...and the game gets challenging.

The twelve characters are variety enough (although I've always wondered what a 4th class would be like...hmmmmmm). The monsters have half a brain sometimes, too!

Well, you may have made your decision, but PSO is still a game well worth the money. Go to EB, buy the game, get your first month free...you don't like the game? Then break it somehow, return it, and keep the adapter for the next game...simple enough http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Brundidge]

On 2003-02-19 16:32, Zeer wrote:
Um, you really cant "try" pso... lol

Game: 50
Keyboard: 80
Dialup Adapter: 30
Account: 9

It adds up, and there is no place to rent this game where I live. "Rares" aren't a thing for me, if I found a dog turd with gold teeth and moon dust in it, it would be considered rare, but I wouldn't want it. Just collecting stuff because its rare doesn't make much sense to me. The community isn't a buying point for me either, because I can have a community in a non-monthly-fee game. So I guess I did answer my own question.


You don't have to buy an adapter, keyboard, and go online to experience PSO. Some of us players only play offline and we really like playing offline. I play offline only because the all the bugs that are happening in online but what friends say to me and what others say on this board is that online is a different experience. I just say that if you're really dedicated to start playing online then go for it but if you don't wanna spend that money then its all good though.

[IronKnight]

It's Diablo 2 with less areas, less monsters and a lower amount of players per game. But it is fun. I personally enjoy PSO cause you can just jump in... kill shit then go on with your life. MMORPGs can be fun but usually just turn into geek fests where aspiring vegetables pay $1000 for a digital house to store their "phat l3wt"

[Lord_Data]

sounds like you want a pen and paper rpg...cause mmorpgs are all about making your character bad ass and getting all the great items you can find...

when an mmorpg comes out that lets you build your character into some kind of alter-lifestyle I will be the first in line to buy it(*cough* starwars galaxies *cough*)

truely if you ask me who has played as many rpg style games as you...probably more;)...I would say that PSO is the first one to keep my interest...and you don't need the keyboard...I don't have one and it works out fine for me.

[dropslash]

i love PSO, though, i'm not an RPG fan, i've never played any MMORPG's. i can't stand the big computer RPG's, even if just for the graphics and control. PSO's not like that.

Phantsay Star Online to me is more like a game progressivly more difficult, never ending, challenges. Beat normal, beat hard, beat very hard, beat ultimate, get online where things get more difficult, try and get top rank in challenge, Famitsu Cup, etc etc etc.

You want to level up, you want to find items, you want to collect "ph@t |00t" because there's always something more difficult to do and you need to be prepared to meet the challenge. Especially if teammates are counting on you.

It's almost closer to an open ended survival horror game, especially Episode 2. And after you beat it, the game's not even close to over.

or at least, that's how i see it.

[Zeer]

Well, think what you may about MMORPGs, but PSO has a hell of a lot of replay value and the online portion of this game has many, MANY things to do.

Can you name 1 thing besides slay monsters and talk to people?

Well, you may have made your decision, but PSO is still a game well worth the money. Go to EB, buy the game, get your first month free...you don't like the game? Then break it somehow, return it, and keep the adapter for the next game...simple enough

I dont know where YOU live, but around here if you buy a game you gotta keep it. Even if it ARRIVES broken.

I play offline only because the all the bugs that are happening in online but what friends say to me and what others say on this board is that online is a different experience.

None of my friends are interested in gaming, except for the occasional SSBM. So if I DIDN'T go online, it would be single player, which i've heard is really gross

personally enjoy PSO cause you can just jump in... kill shit then go on with your life.

Yet again... kill shit.. kill shit... evil cycle of doom. "I kill monsters so I can become more powerful so I can kill more powerful monsters so I can become more powerful so I can kill way more powerful monsters..." You get it..

cause mmorpgs are all about making your character bad ass and getting all the great items you can find...

I could spend 23 hours a day trimming my lawn down to exactly 5 cm so I could have the best looking lawn around. But I wont... because its boooorrrriiinggg http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Phantsay Star Online to me is more like a game progressivly more difficult, never ending, challenges. Beat normal, beat hard, beat very hard, beat ultimate, get online where things get more difficult,

So basicly, the frustration elevates the more you play it. If the only difference in fighting is that the monsters get tougher, thats stupid. I want more CONTENT not just making the old content harder.

You want to level up, you want to find items, you want to collect "ph@t |00t" because there's always something more difficult to do and you need to be prepared to meet the challenge.

I dont...

Guess I talked myself into not buying this game! Thanks for the warning guys, I was thisclose to buying it in the mall http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Atari]

your a pretty hard guy to please, are you looking for a everlasting game that has unlimited cotent?
if so good luck
games are about the experience and fun, if you were looking for more content it would be the same game, just with different things, if i were to play ultimate and there was a new level i would still be killing monsters, if i was playing a fighting game i would always be fighting someone no matter what the costs, the point is this is what genres are for, like fighting games are about fighting, racing you race, role playing are kinda all over the place, simulation you simulate different things, and for adventure you go on an adventure, games are all really thy same sorta thing just with new angles

[Zeer]

If it has a monthly fee it SHOULD be everlasting.
Games like Metroid and SMS are 1 play or 2 play only, and they cost just for the game. If i'm supposed to pay a perpetual fee, there should be new stuff added EVERY MONTH. Like a TV subscription, I get new stuff all the time. If the TV did nothing but play 1 station with nothing but 1 show on it over and over, it would be kinda dumb. Even if it was the greatest show on earth, would get dull once you saw every one. (Actually, thats not far from the truth with some stations) http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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[Atari]

you do though, well sometimes, they update it with quests and the new challenge modes
do you know anything about this game

[Zeer]

yes, quite alot. When I say "new content" I dont mean the occasional new monster or a half-hearted event.

[CGoodness]

Yet again... kill shit.. kill shit... evil cycle of doom. "I kill monsters so I can become more powerful so I can kill more powerful monsters so I can become more powerful so I can kill way more powerful monsters..." You get it..


Not exactly... Once you get to Ultimate mode the enemies beat the piss out of you easily. sp the cycle is much longer the third time through http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Atari]

well then what do you mean, cause most other games dont get much added

[Zeer]

Most games dont have a monthly fee

[Faendryl]

So basicly, the frustration elevates the more you play it. If the only difference in fighting is that the monsters get tougher, thats stupid. I want more CONTENT not just making the old content harder.

I have played EverQuest for over 3 years now, and it has just that, constant new content. You seem to say don't want to pay for killing monster's and a community..but you're willing to pay if a game has new content coming in...which is what the mmorpg's you listed have.

I am in a higher-end guild in EverQuest, and can say there is still a decent sized chunk of content I've not seen or experienced yet. It isn't just about loot and community, but I prefer the personal comraderie within MY guild, not the rest of the server...I really don't enjoy the pickup exp stuff at all; exp is just something to slump through with the guild for aa points so we can kill more things to get gear to see more content.

If you are looking for a game with no downtime however, WITH the multiplayer experience and a community, PLUS constant content...you will not find it in PSO. You pretty much will only find that in multiplayer games with fanservice mods on PC...but almost all of those are rts/fps games.

As much as I like PSO, it isn't what you are looking for, and it is expensive to get the full experience out of it.



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[Atari]

most games you can only play through once or twice and get then your done, some online games do because they need constant attention, other games if the game is online then there is someone hosting a server, then they do everything themselves to update it, like counter-strike

if you dont want the game then stop posting
and its not that expensive, if your not willing to shelve out 9$ for fees and what not then your just to damn cheap, 9$ is pocket change, you could probably find it on the street

[Malkavian]

PSO is hella fun
That's the point. What use would have constant new content if the game was boring?

I like the games for the fun they give nor the content. I dont care if a game has 8695689 hours of play if it bores me. And agame that is 3 hours to finish it if is fun I'll replay it many times and play it more hours than a hundreds hours game.

[incognito32]

you can fight, and raise mags... i see some people here whom want a special mag raised sometimes, and that takes similar time to mowing lawns, i believe.

here is a link (http://www.4gamer.net/files/demo/PSOn-setup.exe) from bobdroid (http://psunlimited.com)47 (http://www.pso-world.com/user.php?op=userinfo&uname=bobdroid47)s' site, if you want to try an older version on a PC. you cannot raise mags, though, there is a play time limit, and cannot save.

edit/add: it is a big file, though...

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[Zeer]

9$? ON THE STREET?! I dont know how much cash YOU get in allowance, but I only get... oh wait I have to work for my money. Ugh. By the end of the month, I would have bought all my cash on food, clothes, CDs, and around 30$ a month in hardware store stuff. Nine dollars is alot, if you consider that its also 108$ a year. I made around 600$ last year, and all that went towards a new computer.
As for EQ... what new content? Content that you must pay 50$ for in a stupid "expansion" is lame. Also, the LARGEST NETWORK IN THE WORLD, BATTLE.NET, is FREE! (yes it is the largest computer network in the world) So why should I have to pay cash for something that isn't even a fourth as big as battle.net? By the way, Everquest gave me new content but it sucked bad because I didn't have free will. "You cant attack this player or NPC" just kinda bugs me. Also, It still revolved around killing more monsters, thats what the new content was. Just new models and zones. Phooey. Dont bother replying because now i've convinced myself to hate all money sucking MMORPGs that are linear and repeditive. Oops. Thats ALL MMORPGs. More like Massivly Mindless

PSO is hella fun


I'm sure. So is hitting a tree with a stick. Actually thats funner.

Faendryl:

Everquest is TOO good. I had to give up most of the things I loved in order to enjoy it AND to pay its exorbitant fees. If I had more money and more time I would probably have it, but for now, I would be living in a wood shack by myself with no friends... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

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[dyn]

Why try to please those that have endless desires? If he's not willing to try a game that many others dub as addictive, and extremely fun, then what kind of a gamer can he be?



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[Chernabog]

I'm sure. So is hitting a tree with a stick. Actually thats funner.

Faendryl:

Everquest is TOO good. I had to give up most of the things I loved in order to enjoy it AND to pay its exorbitant fees. If I had more money and more time I would probably have it, but for now, I would be living in a wood shack by myself with no friends... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


It's beginning to sound to me like you DO live in a wood shack with no friends if sitting in trees with sticks turn you on. Not having played PSO, you certainly seem overly critical.

Zeer's nothing but a troll folks. Just ignore him.

[Sanity]

Oh, man... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Zeer, why are you even posting? You wanted to know what people thought of PSO, in order to aid your possible purchase, and you bash on why people like the game. Kinda stupid, don'tcha think? That's like having a bucket of acid, and asking people if you shouyld pour it on your face, when you know damn well that you're not gonna do it. Guess what? Don't like the game's contents? Don't buy the game! Ooh... difficult concept to grasp! Maybe you're better off painting minotaurs and playing whatever the hell game those kids play...

And to the people who keep posting about why Zeer should buy PSO, don't. He's made it quite clear from the start that he doesn't want PSO. I've always found that people that answer their own questions without knowing it are quite stupid... but hey, maybe that's just me... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Foggy_Pete]

can i ask why your trying to convince him to get pso? if its not for him then let it die..its not like you all need to prove anything to him :/
seems a shame to see someone miss out on a great game though ^_^

[Zeer]

AAAAAGH! *puts on fire retardent vest*

It's beginning to sound to me like you DO live in a wood shack with no friends if sitting in trees with sticks turn you on. Not having played PSO, you certainly seem overly critical.

I am being critical on what other people are telling me. For all I know the game could be gaming utopia. I actually do live in the sticks, but I have lots of friends. Shows what you know, and its probably because your sitting in a cold room playing PSO all day http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Zeer, why are you even posting? You wanted to know what people thought of PSO, in order to aid your possible purchase, and you bash on why people like the game. Kinda stupid, don'tcha think?

I was countering arguments from people that gave me reasons to buy the game. I wanted to just establish that by their description of the game, it was not for me. I was, perhaps, a little heavy, but I never insulted anyone personaly or did anything that was out of line.

If he's not willing to try a game that many others dub as addictive, and extremely fun, then what kind of a gamer can he be?

AAARGH!!! AAGH! *screams* DUDE! YOU CANNOT TRY PSO!!! There is NO physical or LEGAL way to try this game! I ALREADY stated that you cannot return games around here. There is NO place to rent gamecube games where I live, and there is NO WAY IN HELL to rent a Dialup Adapter? I was just gather a few opinions before I went out and blew eighty dollars on something that in the long run, wasn't worth it?

That's like having a bucket of acid, and asking people if you shouyld pour it on your face, when you know damn well that you're not gonna do it. Guess what? Don't like the game's contents? Don't buy the game! Ooh... difficult concept to grasp! Maybe you're better off painting minotaurs and playing whatever the hell game those kids play...
Ugh.. here we go.
Actually, its like this: I go onto a forum and ask if weed is cool. Potheads pour in and say "yeah man its addictive, expensive, and I have no reason for playing it except that its addictive... yeah... dude try it". AND IN THE FIRST PLACE I WAS CONSIDERING BUYING THE GAME IF YOU WOULD HAVE BOTHERED TO READ THE FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD! GAAAH!. I only changed my mind once I heard what the game was about.
[/i]painting minatours?[i]??? What? Should I respond to this? No.

So I come onto this forum, ask a question, then give my reasons, at first politly, why the game wasn't for me. I told you not to respond to my last post, yet suddenly the PSO fanbois pour in. If PSO is full of people like you, then forget it. I'd rather go level up myself than some avatar that I have to pay for.

Incase the text was unseen to you in my last post, here you go:

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST! I WILL NOT COME BACK HERE AND YOU WILL BE WASTING ENERGY TYPING!

For those of you who were polite, thank you. *off retardent suit*

[Vantamiath]

It's ok...I dont think you deserve PSO http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Faendryl]

As for EQ... what new content? Content that you must pay 50$ for in a stupid "expansion" is lame. Also, the LARGEST NETWORK IN THE WORLD, BATTLE.NET, is FREE! (yes it is the largest computer network in the world) So why should I have to pay cash for something that isn't even a fourth as big as battle.net? By the way, Everquest gave me new content but it sucked bad because I didn't have free will. "You cant attack this player or NPC" just kinda bugs me. Also, It still revolved around killing more monsters, thats what the new content was. Just new models and zones. Phooey. Dont bother replying because now i've convinced myself to hate all money sucking MMORPGs that are linear and repeditive. Oops. Thats ALL MMORPGs. More like Massivly Mindless

EQ expansions are much cheaper than $50. You have to pay for these expansions, as they are huge and take alot of manpower to produce. As for the rest of this...it doesn't really deserve a proper response but...either you haven't played EQ in a long time, don't raid at all, or just only did hack and slash and didn't explore evertything offered...otherwise you would have seen a ton of content they still add now that is non expansion. In fact out of most mmorpg's, I would say it still has the most content.

Battle.net servers are not the same and do not require the level of maintnence, nor provide the same amount of "company made" content. Battle.net is not even close to the same quality maintained.

As I said earlier, I don't think PSO is what you were looking for, even though it is gaming utopia to us =)



Faendryl:

Everquest is TOO good. I had to give up most of the things I loved in order to enjoy it AND to pay its exorbitant fees. If I had more money and more time I would probably have it, but for now, I would be living in a wood shack by myself with no friends...

You just have to pace yourself. I used to play too much too, you just have to know your limits. The game was made to be addicting, it's the whole point http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Being in a guild that raids alot of upper things, I probably spent even more time than you in game =/

I really don't know what to reccomend to you, but I don't really know any games in the mmorpg sense that match your wants without the downtime and time requirements. PSO is however, not having downtime or time requirements, but it also has much much less content than a true mmorpg.

If you don't mind MUDs, I used to play a mmorpg named "GemStone III".

It is text based, and easy on the eyes, with quite a bit of content. It does not require the same time commitments to see it all, as the current graphic mmorpg's do. Low downtime, and you can dedicate however much time you please. It is not a campfest, it is skill based like EverQuest, except that you train points when you level instead of doing the actions to raise them. You can overwork any skill if you decide to overtrain in it but it will of ocurse cost more points.

Merchants come to the towns as huge event, and that is when you can buy most of the gear. You don't really camp a "named mob" for items like EQ. However, once in a while, towns will get invaded by forces, usually something always new, that add to the story. GSIII has a TON of history, and story. There is so much more that I don't have time to tell of. If you're interested, do a search on it and find some fan pages or guides to see if it is to your liking.

It does have a monthly fee though. I think is was $8.50 or so when I played before I went to EQ in 1999. The game has been around a long long time..but it is very polished, AND the wizard you use to connect has a graphical interface around the windos, for injuries, and health and mana, and so on.

Good Luck in finding what you want.

[Zeer]

Well I came back because I was bored and wondered if people ignored my request to not reply. Guess not, but atleast Faendryl had something decent to say. But... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

either you haven't played EQ in a long time, don't raid at all, or just only did hack and slash and didn't explore evertything offered...
Well, I played it for 1 and 1/2 years and only got to level 29... Sure, exploring nice-looking zones is always fun, but it blows goats when a 50 foot tall mosquito comes and pwnz y0r kr4ck3r 4ss because your low level and haven't invested hundreds of hours in the game. The reason it takes so long to level up is because Sony realized that the more you play, the more you pay. The more time you spend doing stupid stuff like leveling, the more cash they get to line their pockets. Wouldn't it be better to start you off at say, level 30, and have the game addict you by having great content? Guess not. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif Most of the game wasn't open to me because of my low level. All there really was to do was, of course, kill monsters, do some trade skill (eeeeeeeeew!), and raid. Raids weren't open to me because when more than 20+ appeared on screen, I died. My stupid 24k cant handle that, so I was just stuck with only around 8 people. The quests, in my opinion, were all spoiled because it would always be "Oh did you do the ________ quest?" There wasn't any grandness because it just seemed like a menail task that everyone else has done.

Battle.net servers are not the same and do not require the level of maintnence, nor provide the same amount of "company made" content. Battle.net is not even close to the same quality maintained.

In EQ, do they give you new content in any other way except expansions? I mean, do they like download stuff to your computer like new classes or something. I'm not being sarcastic, I just want to know. New stuff was never added when I was playing.

that match your wants without the downtime and time requirements.
I never said anything about downtime. Its the things that you do when your not in downtime that bug me.

Also, EQ just seems evil to me. I've never liked Sony, there a megacorporation and they put spyware on their VIAOS (or however you spell it). They're a big force in DMCA and other stupid stuff like that. Sony also makes Ps2 (enough said, IMHO).


If you don't mind MUDs, I used to play a mmorpg named "GemStone III".

No thanks. Guess I just dont have enough imagination, but text-based RPGs have never appealed to me. FORTUNATLY I now have Neverwinter Nights, which seems to be evertying PSO and other MMORPGs isn't. UNLIMITED CONTENT (make your own maps, models, quests NPCs, weapons, equip, ANYTHING), FREE online play, good graphics, and good communication because I have a keyboard. So guess there is a game for me.



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[Zealot]

Zeer..... really now. What do you want from us here? You said you wouldn't come back but you did and you wont consider what anyone says about anything. Why the Hell do you come back?! Your attitude toward everything makes me mad.

[Sanity]

On 2003-02-21 16:05, Zeer wrote:

Actually, its like this: I go onto a forum and ask if weed is cool. Potheads pour in and say "yeah man its addictive, expensive, and I have no reason for playing it except that its addictive... yeah... dude try it". AND IN THE FIRST PLACE I WAS CONSIDERING BUYING THE GAME IF YOU WOULD HAVE BOTHERED TO READ THE FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD! GAAAH!. I only changed my mind once I heard what the game was about.
[/i]painting minatours?[i]??? What? Should I respond to this? No.

So I come onto this forum, ask a question, then give my reasons, at first politly, why the game wasn't for me. I told you not to respond to my last post, yet suddenly the PSO fanbois pour in. If PSO is full of people like you, then forget it. I'd rather go level up myself than some avatar that I have to pay for.

Incase the text was unseen to you in my last post, here you go:

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST! I WILL NOT COME BACK HERE AND YOU WILL BE WASTING ENERGY TYPING!

For those of you who were polite, thank you. *off retardent suit*



*cough*

Let's see now... so I'm a fanboy because I gave you the simple concept of not buying a game if you don't like its content? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif I like this one! But, wait! There's not an ounce of fanboyishness in my post! Please show me, O wise one! Sorry if I'm addicted to handing out common sense http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Then again, if you weren't applying that comment to me, I take back what I said...

Oh, and I know you'll reply, since you've already lied about not doing so...

*waits*

[GandorDurin]

Let's all be "Happy boys and happy girls." -Aqua

Well time for me throw up, durn indigestion.

[TerribleDeliMeat]

In EQ, do they give you new content in any other way except expansions? I mean, do they like download stuff to your computer like new classes or something. I'm not being sarcastic, I just want to know. New stuff was never added when I was playing.



Actually, quite alot of things is added to EQ for free. Numerous zones (Jagged Pines is the most recent). New quests, new magic spells, new items, etc. are added on a fairly regular basis. SOE just doesnt announce these additions, they have to be found.

[Faendryl]

What TerribleDeliMeat said. I'm to lazy to requote all your paragraph's Zeer =)

They also added new races to many classes, more zones, new quests, new items, epics, new spells and abilities, and they constantly fix things.

While I don't like most sony hardware, I do enjoy EverQuest(software).

To be that low of a level after 1 and a half years..you either didn't hunt much, or just sat around the trade zone on your server bartering or chatting away. True it was a difficult climb to the top prekunark leveling, but the game is not even close to the same as when it started. Newbies can buy items better than what lvl 50's dreamed of back then now, for very little platinum. They have more zones, better gear, the hybrid exp penalties removed, zone exp modifiers in easy open zones. You could start up a new account now and literally hit 50 in less than a month. The game doesn't need to use downtime as a means to keep you playing longer TO level, as there is more content then most can ever see playing the game for years. Of course now that it is so easy TO level, high level becomes saturated...which is why so much content has to be around, so the people who play all the time have a place to go as much as the people who play casually.

I'm not going to defend EQ, some people like it, some don't. As far as sony goes with other means (non PC), my PS2 is basically an rpg machine, otherwise it collects dust.

Hope you have fun with NWN. It is backed by a community that does mods, so maybe you will get the exact content you were looking for..it still isn't on the scale of what production costs can bring(ie EQ, and other deeper mmorpgs).

BTW isn't NWN peer to peer? than again only the lobbies and C-Mode are hosted on PSO's servers, the rest is p2p i think also..

MUD's never really caught my interest either, but GemStoneIII is just somehow different, I don't know...I guess having a dedicated staff keeping it fresh helps http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Atari]

i had NWN since it came out and i find pso more fun, pso actaully has some skill to it, other than click attack and the computer does everything for you

[HC82]

1. PSOs gameplay really can't be compared to diablo to closely. Both are "action" but PSO has a slightly higher degree of skill and requires a higher degree of team work.

2. An example of team work would be challenge mode. Here your goal is not to become "UBER", it's to defeat the stage in as little time as possible without dying. If one teammate dies you lose. Combat strategy, understanding how to defeat the enemies without getting hit much, and TEAMWORK is the main aspect of this mode. This is a shining example of what seperates PSO from Diablo. Also with the emphasis on time, it combines being both efficent and quick in each stage.

Also each stage is fairly complex when compared to the main quest and requires players to work to together to solve the problems ahead.

How well you do in the end determines your reward based on a ranking system.

3. Battle mode has different rule which spice things up. Different stages, goals and handicaps are present in each battle mode rule.

4. Quests: These are the backbone of PSO. Unique objectives and varying stages make them fun. Some quests actually don't require any killing, and some are focused just on killing. There are goals set for you as a team to achieve(thus requiring a bit of skill and planning). Some are just twitch fests, where you face a huge amount of enemies and have to simply beat the stage without getting owned.


PSO is indeed a solid game, but it doesn't have the longevity of a MMORPG. The main mode boils down to just killing things and bettering your characters(with a storyline), but it has more then that. If you played tons of MMORPGS and what not, PSO is somewhat refreshing. Although if you despise upgrading your character and leveling up, then this game isn't for you(even though there is challenge mode.)