What's on your ITEM palette?

[DPShiro]

Always wondered if most people use the same setup or not. For me it's pretty much the same on all four characters, regardless of class:

- Dimate
- Trimate
- Photon Charge
- Star Atomizer (switch this with googles when needed)
- Megistaride
- Antimate when soling, Sol Atomizer when in party

Please post your setup and what class you are using it with.

[Siri]

Quick tip regarding the Goggles - as you're on the 360 version, you can click the right analog stick to go into first person, and then press the right 'bumper' button on the pad to activate your goggles. it's a bit fiddly, but I personally find it better than messing around with your pallete constantly.

My items consist of the following: Dimate, Trimate, Star Atomizer, Photon Charge, Sol Atomizer, and Megistaride. With items and cash being so plentiful at PSU's endgame, I don't particularly see the point of using anything less than Atomizers, unless I've dumped all my cash in the common box in a tizzy and I have an abundance of solo healing items.

The real problem is when you're either playing a mission where you and your comrades are lacking in Scapes (in which case, Moon Atomizers in place of Megistarides), or you're rolling as a Protranser (normally switching Sol Atomizer and Megistaride for Stun and Freeze Trap EX).

There's always the option of bunging in Photon Charge Cosmo instead of Megistaride if I'm PA Levelling, but I would have to be really lazy or broke for that to happen.

[DPShiro]

Thanks for the tip Siri, i didn't know that :D
I hate switching for googles so this is a great help :P

[Namine]

Currently:

All: Dimate, Trimate, Sol Atomizer, Photon Charge
MF: Defbaride, Retaride
FM: Freeze Trap G, Megistride
GM: Star Atomizer, Megistride
AT: Antimate, Photon Charge Cosmo(was using for Debuff leveling and haven't taken off yet)

[Ryna]

On my Masterforce, I use the following: Dimate, Trimate, Antimate, Photon Charge, Retaride, and Goggles.

[NDW]

Fighmaster:
- Trimate
- Sol Atomizer
- Megistaride
- Photon Charge
- Freeze/Sleep Trap G*

Gunmaster/Acrofighter:
- Trimate
- Sol Atomizer
- Megistaride
- Photon Charge
- Burn/Virus Trap G*

Masterforce:
- Trimate
- Sol Atomizer
- Megistaride
- Photon Charge

*These items are only put on the pallet if they are needed for the mission.

[Hrith]

People use Antimates? why exactly? >_>

Gunmaster, Fortegunner or Acrofighter:
-Star Atomizer
-Sol Atomizer
-Trimate
-Megistaride
-Photon Charge
-Virus or Burn Trap G

Fighgunner:
-Star Atomizer
-Sol Atomizer
-Trimate
-Megistaride
-Photon Charge
-Burn Trap G

Guntecher:
-Star Atomizer
-Sol Atomizer
-Trimate
-Photon Charge
-Burn Trap G
-Freeze Trap G

Acrotecher:
-Star Atomizer
-Sol Atomizer
-Trimate
-Photon Charge
-Shock Trap G
-Silence Trap G

Fighmaster:
-Star Atomizer
-Sol Atomizer
-Trimate
-Megistaride
-Photon Charge
-Freeze Trap G

Masterforce:
-Star Atomizer
-Sol Atomizer
-Trimate
-Photon Charge
-Zodiaride
-Retaride

Protranser:
-Sol Atomizer
-Trimate
-Megistaride
-Photon Charge
-Freeze Trap EX
-Stun Trap EX

[The_Brimada]

Guntecher:

Trimate
Sol Atomizer
Star Atomizer
Confuse Trap G
Burn Trap G
Photon Charge

Protranser:

Trimate
Sol Atomizer
Stun EX(or megistaride- normally just pop it from menu on PT))
Burn EX
Freeze EX
Photon Charge

Acrofighter/Fighgunner

Dimate(swap out for G trap if I feel its needed)
Trimate
Sol Atomizer
Photon Charge
Megistaride
Star Atomizer

Fighmaster

Trimate
Megistaride
Photon Charge
Freeze Trap G
Sleep Trap G
Sol Atomizer

Gunmaster

Dimate
Trimate
Photon Charge
Megistaride
Sol Atomizer
Star Atomizer

[Ethateral]

Masterforce

Dimate
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Megistride
Photon Charge

Acrotecher

Dimate
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Photon Charge
Freeze Trap G

Acrofighter

Dimate
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Megistride
Photon Charge

Guntecher

Dimate
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Photon Charge
Freeze Trap G

[Namine]

I use Antimates mainly for when I get silenced as AT, though I usually use Slience / Resist if its the only SE in a given mission.

[Ellipsis...]

I say we should get more item slots for PT's >_>

Seriously, they need it.

[The_Brimada]

I rather be lazy and just use sols, so any antimate in my inventory is instantly dropped. Sure sols costs more but its only what, 300 meseta? I never use all 20 anyway. >.>

And I agree with the item slots for PT, but I can still manage.

[pinkace]

Wow, i have very similar arrangements for all my classes, even the force classes, mainly because there is nothing else to put on the pallet outside of healers.

My PT has the hardest time. I want her to have all 3 EX traps readily available, but that means chargers and moons have to be excluded. i am new to the PT world, so i am trying just using one trap but it is not always the best option. fire traps are no good against robots, for example...

[that cast named kai]

all classes:

monomate
dimate
trimate
sol atomizer
moon atomizer x
photon charges

[Mikura]

All classes:

Dimate
Trimate
Sol Atomizers
Photon Charges

Last two slots vary according to what class I'm playing

FM: Megistarides, Star Atomizers
MF: Defbaride, Retaride
GM: Megistarides, Star Atomizers

Moons I just use from the menu since I normally don't have to revive people that often, and I'll occasionally swap an item out for a Trap if I need it for a given mission.

[KuroShinnen]

Gunmaster:
-Sol Atomizer
-Photon charge
-Trimate
-Megistaride
-Moon Atomizer
-Burn Trap G

[Gen2000]

Trimate
Sol
Photon Charge
xx
xx
xx

xx's filled with different items depending on my class.
In general: Megistrade, Trap 1, Trap 2. i.e. Freeze/Sleep/Confuse for FM, Burn/Virus G for GM/AF, Freeze/Shock/Silence for AT, etc, etc. If AT then Megistrade slot is replaced with Star too.

MF the last three are just Megistrade, Stars, and Dimates since nothing else to really fill them the slots with anways. MF HP so low that Dimates aren't that bad for general healing.

PT: Burn EX or Virus G, Freeze EX, Stun EX. I use buff item from item menu. Kind of a hassle but I've gotten used to it really good now. I rather have all useful traps available to me at all times.

[Somnia]

Fighmaster;

Trimate
Antimate
Freeze G
Photon Charge
Megistaride
Goggles

I play solo mostly so no need for silly Sol Atomizers; suck it NPC's.

[GeekRuler]

Protranser:

Trimate
Fire Trap EX
Sol Atmomizer
Ice Trap EX
Photon Charge
Stun Trap EX

Pretty basic... :D

[DPShiro]

Many people don't seem to use Dimate's, or do you use them from the menu?
Seems a waste to pop a Trimate/Star Atomizer if you just get hit for 1/4 of your HP, but if you don't heal you could get killed if the next hit is a critical etc

Many also seem to use Agataride instead of Megastaride. Is this because you don't need the ATA up etc or because you don't want to get damaged by using it?

[MadDogg]

Fighmaster;

Trimate
Antimate
Freeze G
Photon Charge
Megistaride
Goggles

I play solo mostly so no need for silly Sol Atomizers; suck it NPC's.

I don't know how it works on the PC/PS2 version, but I know on the 360, to can use your goggles anytime you want by going into first person view with the right stick and pushing the left bumper, which would be strafe. Maybe you could do the same on your version, free up a item slot.

Dimate
Trimate
Sol
Star
Agtaride
photon charge

[Phaesphora]

Seems a waste to pop a Trimate/Star Atomizer if you just get hit for 1/4 of your HP, but if you don't heal you could get killed if the next hit is a critical etc

Well, as MF, since I'm usually well back from the fray I tend to let my HP hover between 10-20% to give Nosmegid a boost. Usually people heal me because they don't know that I'm fine with low health, but it's not a big deal, just Regrants back down and Megiverse to heal when necessary. However, I do go through more Scape Dolls than anyone else I know.

On said MF, the item palette is as follows:

Photon Charge
Retaride
Zodiaride
Sol Atomizer
Star Atomizer
Trimate

[Gen2000]

Many people don't seem to use Dimate's, or do you use them from the menu?
Seems a waste to pop a Trimate/Star Atomizer if you just get hit for 1/4 of your HP, but if you don't heal you could get killed if the next hit is a critical etc



Trimates + Stars = 30 Full HP recovery heal items, don't need any more than that in any mission. Maybe if they release Military Subway S3 then one may find a true use for extra healing items but no current mission is long or difficulty enough to warrant using patch heals to save up full recovery heals. Things are too easy.

Mono/Dimates are just a waste of inventory space to me.

[Ruru]

i find it kind of odd that most MF's dont just use megistaride. you know that zodial helps with the evasion boost? it frees up a space for whatever else you want to put on your pallete and inventory space.

also on PC/PS2 you dont need to put your goggles on the palette either. you can just go into first person and hit R1 i believe (or L1 i cant remember off the top of my head) but there's no need to put them on your palette it just wastes space

For all my classes with the exception of traps on AF (if i bother to use them)
Dimate
Trimate
Star
Megistaride
Photon charge/traps(AF)
Sol atomizer

as for using dimates. i use them depending on the mission. if its a pretty long or annoying mission where i'm soloing, then i'll use up dimates as well. or something like the last room of ill cabo base with all the magashis and i'm solo then dimates come in handy.

[J-Veezy]

I'm surprised that there are few users that actually have moon atomizers in their palettes.

[Genoa]

Masterforce:
Retaride
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Photon Charge

Acrotecher:
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Photon Charge

Acrofighter:
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Photon Charge
(Burn/Poison/Virus trap depending on mission)

Gunmaster:
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Photon Charge
(various trap depending on mission)

Fighmaster:
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Photon Charge
Freeze Trap G (nice for setting up a Jabroga, best for solo)

Protranser:
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Photon Charge
Freeze Trap EX
Stun Trap EX
(I throw burn in if mission needs or if out of another EX trap)

I don't really play the other jobs that often
I try to have as few items on the palette as possible so I scroll less when the need is dire, and I ALWAYS make sure that Trimate is the first item ready, so even after I use something else, I put it back to the next item ready when I open the menu.

[stinkyfish97]

In this order, I have used it for quite a while and its been working out for me.

Sol Atonimizer
Trimate
Freeze EX
Burn EX
Stun EX
Star atonimizer

Some things I explain. I put burn in the middle of the two other EX traps because the Freeze and Stun are good for stopping mobs but burn falls into the catagory of SE damage so it goes in the middle of the other two. Sol is on top because that way either way I switch from there I can heal myself, I press down I use trimate I press up and I an heal the group. Basically the setup you choose grows on you and I have been using this for quite a while now. Sometimes I switch the Burn EX with Virus G's

[stinkyfish97]

Also one other quick note on items. I use /items to have access to my inventory quick. I just hit the d pad right and boom right into my weapons list and from there I can just click on the item and photon charge when needed. However I usually do not need to use photon charges so long as I use my traps properly. You can also use that / technique to access the map as well. I use it as my F1 shorcut by the way, if that helps anyone who does not use that already.

[Somnia]

I don't know how it works on the PC/PS2 version, but I know on the 360, to can use your goggles anytime you want by going into first person view with the right stick and pushing the left bumper, which would be strafe. Maybe you could do the same on your version, free up a item slot.




Cool tip, didn't know that. I'm on 360 servers, but I'd imagine it would work the same on PC/PS2. Guess I can start packing more traps. :)

[DPShiro]

Also one other quick note on items. I use /items to have access to my inventory quick. I just hit the d pad right and boom right into my weapons list and from there I can just click on the item and photon charge when needed. However I usually do not need to use photon charges so long as I use my traps properly. You can also use that / technique to access the map as well. I use it as my F1 shorcut by the way, if that helps anyone who does not use that already.

I thought that these shortcuts only worked on PC, but i never tested them until now :)
Nice tip thanks!

[Macras]

photon eraser(since firebreak)
trimate
sol atomizer
photon charge
traps

[Volcompat321]

I have pretty much what everyone else has.
For my techer-Dimate, Trimate, Sol Atomizer, Defbaride, Retaride, Photon Charge.
Gunner-Dimate, Trimate, Sol Atomizer, Agteride, Zodiaride(spelling?), Photon Charge.

[Zwick_]

Dimate
Trimate
Antimate
Agtaride
Defbaride
Firework =)

[garjian]

Dimate
Trimate
Antimate
Sol Atomiser
(Other)
Star Atomiser

[Noblewine]

-Fortefighter-
Dimate
Trimate
Antimate
Sol Atomizer
Agistride (or Megistride)

-Fighgunner/Fortefighter-
Dimate
Trimate
Antimate
Star Atomizer
Agistride (or Megistride)

-Fortetech/Wartecher-
Dimate
Trimate
Antimate
Star Atomizer

-Fortegunner-
Dimate
Trimate
Antimate
Star Atomizer

[stukasa]

Dimate
Trimate
Sol Atomizer
Star Atomizer
Photon Charge
Agtaride (or Retaride)

[Delete]

Dimate
Trimate
Photon Charge
Sol Atomizer
Star Atomizer
Agtaride

PS: I don't carry moons, if you don't have scape dolls.......then like wtf
(I know some newer players may not have em, but I am a 160 and since I'm running with 160's usually, they should have no excuse lol) Sawy for long post : 3

[Ruru]

Dimate
Trimate
Photon Charge
Sol Atomizer
Star Atomizer
Agtaride

PS: I don't carry moons, if you don't have scape dolls.......then like wtf
(I know some newer players may not have em, but I am a 160 and since I'm running with 160's usually, they should have no excuse lol) Sawy for long post : 3


its not always the case of just not buying scapes.

i've seen people lose all 10 scapes trying to solo the magashi room doing split runs during delta. so its not like they forgot scapes >.> they just died enough to warrant a moon.

[KaF]

Surprising that there are no PTs out there?

I've been toying around with the PT item palette lately. Trying to outsource everything that i can afford to use out of the menu, I basically came down to this:


on my Human 110 PT level 7 (low HP hurts)
Dimate, later in mission Trimate
Sol
Photon Charge
Ice Ex, later in mission Stun Ex
Ice G
Virus G / Burn G


on my Beast 160 PT 20

Sol
Ice Ex, later in mission Stun Ex
Ice G
Shock G / Silence G / Chaos G / Sleep G
Shock G / Silence G / Chaos G / Sleep G
Burn G / Virus G



The fire EX traps have that horrible knockback effect, which makes them pretty useless on non-big targets once a single fighter is in the party. In long-range-only parties that trap is still pretty good.
Silence / Shock / Chaos / Sleep is pretty situational and in most of the cases just attacking or using Ice G is better.

Since everything is status'd all the time i can heal via the menu in the mean time. Same goes for megistaride and photon charge.


It should be obvious that i usually play in big parties ;)

[Volcompat321]

its not always the case of just not buying scapes.

i've seen people lose all 10 scapes trying to solo the magashi room doing split runs during delta. so its not like they forgot scapes >.> they just died enough to warrant a moon.

If they die that much, they shouldn't be soloing. Period.
Also, how can you see people use 10 scapes, if they are soloing? :o

[NiceOnes]

NiceOnes FT

Trimate
Star Atomizer
Photon Charge
Fireworks
DeRagan Breath
Photon Eraser

I love settin' off Fireowrks and DRB's as well as blasting enemies with my photon eraser.. Really seems to upset people in the party doing these things. Hence the reason I do it.

[Akaimizu]

Sounds like you're a big time Ghostbusters fan; because that's probably what it looks like. Photon Eraser and traps with lights coming out.

Let's see. My layout.

Usually. And usually being my usual Guntecher item palette.

Photon Charge
Trimate
Star Atomizer
Burn Trap G
Freeze Trap G
Confusion Trap G

[NiceOnes]

I do like Ghostbusters actually... Been a long time since I've watched those movies.. I'm going to put the original on my torrent d/l list right now.

Brilliant.

[Ruru]

If they die that much, they shouldn't be soloing. Period.
Also, how can you see people use 10 scapes, if they are soloing? :o



you should probably re-read my post...

soloing while doing "SPLIT RUNS" on delta. meaning 3 people take one route each. have you been to the magashi room in delta? those can kill you in one to two hits depending on what class/race you are and there's three of them. also consider the person was on a PS2 so slow down + lag is also a factor.

[Volcompat321]

you should probably re-read my post...

soloing while doing "SPLIT RUNS" on delta. meaning 3 people take one route each. have you been to the magashi room in delta? those can kill you in one to two hits depending on what class/race you are and there's three of them. also consider the person was on a PS2 so slow down + lag is also a factor.

Oh, I didn't know what you meant, I haven't played the event.
I apologize.
Also, lag+slowdown from a PS2 doesn't effect game play as much as you think.
The internet connection matters the most.
There are plenty of people that play on a PS2 (Alpal, Grimmace for two) and they play great.
I also used to play on PS2 before I got the PC version.
I don't want to start a debate about that though. Sometimes it's worse for others than some, I understand it.

[Ruru]

Oh, I didn't know what you meant, I haven't played the event.
I apologize.
Also, lag+slowdown from a PS2 doesn't effect game play as much as you think.
The internet connection matters the most.
There are plenty of people that play on a PS2 (Alpal, Grimmace for two) and they play great.
I also used to play on PS2 before I got the PC version.
I don't want to start a debate about that though. Sometimes it's worse for others than some, I understand it.

dont worry about it.

i'm on a PS2 myself. so i know the effects of a PS2 in a run with three over powered magashis. the night in question though we had major lag issues server side. and the slowdown caused when two magashis are using damfoie or rafoie and a third is flying at you or shooting double foie from the back is enough to be a hindrance lol.

i'm not going to blame PS2 for deaths of course but the difference in frame skip 0 on PC really puts the game into easy mode compared to some of the things we have to deal with on PS2. doubleshotting for one is much easier on a PC as well as not getting stuck in svaltus legs (since AotI came out) that you have to deal with on PS2. which made roar of flames a bit annoying on some parts.

i still dont understand why ever since AotI came out that you get stuck in svaltus legs on PS2... really makes no sense

[Volcompat321]

dont worry about it.

i'm on a PS2 myself. so i know the effects of a PS2 in a run with three over powered magashis. the night in question though we had major lag issues server side. and the slowdown caused when two magashis are using damfoie or rafoie and a third is flying at you or shooting double foie from the back is enough to be a hindrance lol.

i'm not going to blame PS2 for deaths of course but the difference in frame skip 0 on PC really puts the game into easy mode compared to some of the things we have to deal with on PS2. doubleshotting for one is much easier on a PC as well as not getting stuck in svaltus legs (since AotI came out) that you have to deal with on PS2. which made roar of flames a bit annoying on some parts.

i still dont understand why ever since AotI came out that you get stuck in svaltus legs on PS2... really makes no sense

Yea, I noticed the Svaltus thing before I switched to PC.
(I didn't switch to PC until August last year, so what, 1½ years on PS2?)
I couldn't stand playing on a PS2, or even PS3 after I played PC for so long.
Most likely I forgot what it was like to play on a PS2 for long periods of time :/

[Delete]

If they die that much, they shouldn't be soloing. Period.
Also, how can you see people use 10 scapes, if they are soloing? :o

That Post made me lol.

Also, That's true about Magashi, but then again, he's not that hard tbh. Unless Your a techer that is.

[Phaesphora]

It's a sad fact that I have gone through a full stack of Scape Dolls in the Magashi room. I couldn't stop laughing as the rest of the party continued into the next block while I was KO'd; about 8 minutes later someone realized I was still down and rescued me.

:lol:

[hunterseifer]

- freeze trap g
- Trimate
- Photon Charge
- Star Atomizer
- Megistaride
- Sol Atomizer

Gotta love the g trap jabroga combo

[xBULLYDOGG]

Fighmaster

Trimate
Antimate
Megistaride
Photon charge
Freeze trap G

[darkante]

- General palette -

Dimate
Trimate
Sol Atomizer
Photon Charge
Megistaride / Traps* (PT only, i just use buff through meny then)
Star Atomizer / Traps (both rarely needed so not top priority)