TeamPhalanx is the last legit!

[Sedyne]

This may belong in cheaters section but anyway

I want to say that I believe from what I read in the other post in the cheaters forum, that Phalanx made had made a statement if you cheat in a test you are a cheater, no semi cheater no, i'm not a duper blah. He/She signature says "The Last Legit" which in my opinion is probably true ^_^. Why>? He seems to be the type that has never ever cheated on PSO. I want to congratulate him/her on this. I find it to be rather impressive >_>. I most of us turn to the dark side sooner or later for some pleassure lol

is there anyone else amongst psow that does this?


>Just for my own note: THIS ISN"T A SUCK UP THREAD!

PHALANX CAN F*** OFF IF HE TAKES IT THAT WAY!



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[ginko990]

I NOL people for fun and FSOD lobbies

[IronKnight]

No one on this site is 100% legit... I've seen "angels" throwin out some hacked mags.

[_Zero_]

You are right about nobody being 100% legit. Hell if you trade you are cheating. There is nothing more satisfying than finding that weapon you have been looking for instead of getting it through a trade.

[Brundidge]

me and 3 other close buddies of mine play legitly offline but promise never to go online(c'mon $9? let's eat instead). But I will admit I did cheat on a test one time (or several driver's ed sucks hardcore just gimme the damn real test). http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Raist]

I've never had anything on my characters that wasn't found by me in all my PSO days, stemming from Ver. 1 and I've never owned or used a cheat device for any system. TeamPhalanx may be among a small minority but there are others. To say that someone is the only real legit seems kinda silly to me, just think about the people that are restricted to offline.
Oh and yeah this is headin' to cheaters for sure.

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[Blood_Dragoon]

Well as I've said before in alot of places. "If you can't play the game the way it was meant to then you shouldn't play it at all." I've always felt that people that cheat to win at a game are just stealing from themselves. He isn't "The Last Legit" but there are probably alot of times that he feels like he is. I know I've felt that way quite a few times especially on the DC.

[Ghaleon]

I NOL people for fun and FSOD lobbies

thats a horrible thing to do...why do you do that?

[ginko990]

On 2003-02-24 14:45, Ghaleon wrote:
I NOL people for fun and FSOD lobbies

thats a horrible thing to do...why do you do that?





Cuz I own.

Oh and by the way, I WASNT JOKING.



On 2003-02-24 14:36, _Zero_ wrote:
You are right about nobody being 100% legit. Hell if you trade you are cheating. There is nothing more satisfying than finding that weapon you have been looking for instead of getting it through a trade.



Hence that is why legit people dont trade...
Phalanx dosnt, I know w acouple others who dont, And I no longer do, I used to so i geuss im not 100% legit :/

[Castoth]

I'm 100% legit too. I've even turned down DB sabers and Kaladbolgs that were given to me. I just never mention it since I prefer to just play the game instead!

*goes to cry in a corner* ;_;

[Auracom]

I still believe there are more legits out there. Anyone who's offline is most likely legit, unless they're retarded and buy a cheat device. I'm Offline until I can find a hub. I'm a lv 108 RAcast using H&SJustice +9 25/25/25/15/10. Shows how much of a legit I am... I'm a skly for god sakes. I just started when it came out for gamecube. I've been raising other characters to help me get items that I want. Right now I'm raising a purpelnum to get yasminov 9000M. I'm on very hard mines, almost there.
Don't jump to conclusions, just because everyone else does.

Oh ya sorry about all the I's

[Para]

im legit http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif;
and stand by it

[Vantamiath]

. . . . . . . . . .

I feel that everything I have ever done has gotten me nowhere...

Oh well, thats the way of the legit.

(btw my title was Last Legit and I even had a DC character HU named Last Legit...but I guess people dont know me)

[the_af]

............... Can i please get the moderators or SOMEONE to put an end to all these threads saying the exact same thing? If you've never had a duplicated item ever in your whole pso 'life', good for you. Now, can we please move on?

[TeamPhalanx]

Um... okay?

First, wrong forum to post in.

Since some aren't up to date, I should explain the sig. That sig was made by the original Phalanx (she quit during the last days of v1, since she was headed to medical school) It was meant as a joke, but it might actually have been true. (I'm also too lazy to change it)

That 100% thing really irritates me. As I've said in the other post, there's no such thing as 100% not cheating. You either cheat or you don't. Since most here are in K12, thing of it this way. If a teacher asks you whether or not you cheated on a test, are you going to answer, "Well, I cheated partially." That's stupid - It's a yes or no question.

For those that just don't understand, it just comes down to playing the game as ST meant it to be played. Turning down a DB's SABER... that's really extreme. I mean, the odds of that being duped is nearly 0%, so there's nothing wrong with accepting it. It comes down to common sense.

As for me being the last, no, I'm not. I still play with other honest people and, on occasion, I meet a new one.

As for the members here, DangerousDj and blue-hawk come to mind.

[dj_dan]

Aw, what a sweet topic..
Let's publicly congratulate people and suck up, then falsely say that person can go f*** off to claim that you aren't sucking up.

I'm legit. I don't trade,dupe, or whatever else you can think of.

This thread is pretty stupid, however it sparked a response so.. whatever.

[Castoth]

Well, it's not because I questioned the person's legitness that I turned down the DB saber. It's because it was my first character going through GC PSO for the first time so I prefer to find my own rares initially. Heck, even then, I hate trading simply because I prefer to find my own items in the first place...

[Para]

db sabers are useless >_>a;;i hate them... why would anyone dupe them? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Sedyne]

I NOL people in lobbies as well. It's fun being an asshoel.

and as for DJ_Dan well you can go fuck off, because I am not nor do I care to be friends with Phalanx. And I just thought something that pertained to the user was interesting and I also wanted to get a feel as to how many people really thought they were 100% Legit. Etc. Why? Cuz i'm curious. I just ahppened to notice something that interested me about Phalanx so i wrote a bit about it, probably more than nessecary. I Wouldn't expect someone so wide to understand. =)

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[Tigger]

You know, I think someone said earlier that if you're trading then you're a cheater...

However Sonic Team originally put that into the game so it wouldn't be cheating, it would technically be "playing the game it was meant to be played."

I understand the economy has been altered by dupers. But that just sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

[Raist]

On 2003-02-24 20:26, Tigger wrote:
However Sonic Team originally put that into the game so it wouldn't be cheating, it would technically be "playing the game it was meant to be played."

I understand the economy has been altered by dupers. But that just sounds like a conflict of interest to me.


Sonic Team put the trade window into the game to stimulate trading and to stop people from stealing during trades. One can remain cheat free while trading by using common sense, I mean seriously if someone is trading you their stag cutlery for mind mats, its safe to assume that the stag cutlery isn't a dupe. Sending dupes through the trade window doesn't wash them of there illegitimacy.

[Guntz348]

Have you ever driven one mile an hour over the speed limit? If so you have broken the law and therefore broken the cheating is cheating, you either do it or you dont. There is no way anyone can possibly be 100% it's rediculous.

[Raist]

On 2003-02-24 20:40, Guntz348 wrote:
Have you ever driven one mile an hour over the speed limit? If so you have broken the law and therefore broken the cheating is cheating, you either do it or you dont. There is no way anyone can possibly be 100% it's rediculous.


Coulda swore we were talking about the game here. When anything else is brought up i.e. cheating on a test. Its being used as an example, not as a set marker for being legit.

[Zolpner]

-_- well its pretty hard for me to not be legit considering i dont have the game yet (and only heard of it from GCN), BUT EVEN AFTER I WILL STILL STAY 100% LEGit
btw, here is a view on non-legit, any game that you can save helps you cheat because if you fail someting you can quit and re-load, and also "piping", piping is a way of speeding up the process, just like duping. Think about it -_-

EDIT:p.s. i never intend to use the piping trick, nor (if possible i dont know) reboot and load up th safe save file.
(also corrected something)

(COOL 100th POST!!!)



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[Raist]

On 2003-02-24 22:41, Zolpner wrote:
btw, here is a view on legit, any game that you can save helps you cheat because if you fail someting you can quit and re-load, and also "piping", piping is a way of speeding up the process, just like duping. Think about it -_-

When duping is limited to a select few decent things and takes as long as piping does, I'll probably care less about people doing it. In your effort to be SO 100% legit dont lose scope of exactly why your doing it. Are you against these things because they ruin the game?

[DB]

*POSTS*

Yeah, it sparked a little intrest. I'm legit, but I still trade, does't mean i'm trading for some god-like weapon however. And it also doesn't mean i'm trading with someone I don't know. It's a community, and trading should be encouraged, not looked down upon. But it's up too you, to decide if how you're trading, what you're trading for, is fair. Legit, can mean many different things. Sure, some of us have went to the darkside, even unknowingly. But it doesn't mean we meant to hurt our own gameplay, or anyone elses.

As for that. Just make sure it's not BS... You're trading a Durandal, and getting Lavis Blades... I hope you're able to to tell yourself... "Something's wrong here..." if not, then you are willingly giving in to something that's wrong, and you know it. Unless of course. You have no idea what the quality of the items you are trading have... Here's a clue... look at the stars!

Either way you look at it. Duped items, cheating, ect... Takes the fun out of games. Who wants to play Doom, if you're in god mode, with unlimited ammo, and can kill everything in a single hit, regardless? Only extreme LAMERS. Or people that just want to check out what it's all about, to be all super powerful. Then they usually go back to their normal ways.

[Zolpner]

Are you against these things because they ruin the game?

No not at all, (i geuss it is longer than duping and not quite the same sorry if I dumped on anyone) its just that i like to extend my gaming experience http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
and i geuss i just ment for my first couple of chers because ill probably get pissd and use piping in the end

but the saving and loading thing really stuffs up Hot seat heros of might and magic -_- (my friends are wimps http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif )

[Mystil]

She probably was 100% legit. Ah that individual and had changed my views on cheating indeed. I could no longer say I was 50/50 on both. I cheated, have cheated, I'm a cheater. Your motives of cheating is just different.

[Zolpner]

EDIT!!!!!!!!!!: Bad comments no real good thoughts.

~=Zolp=~



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[Blood_Dragoon]

Hmm. . . so from that point of view, people that cram all night for a big test are cheating since they are doing research to find all the answers before actually taking the test? Dunno that's just how it came out for me.

Edit: Quote deleted by request of Zolpner.

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[Tigger]

That's what it sounds like to me too. There's nothing wrong with getting help, and there is certianly nothing wrong with saving. I mean otherwise what's the point? Games nowadays usually exceed over 15 hours of play, and certain bossess/stages etc are constructed so that you have to form new strategies to beat them, even if it means constantly dying.

But if you want to play a game for twenty hours straight only to die at the last boss, more power to you.

By what your saying it sounds like you shouldn't even be able to pause, because that would be "cheating" too.

[Sedyne]

Oh nno. I meant the gernilzation of duping etc and using dupes. ^_^

but uh yeah...we can all find reasons why others "arnt legit" so um =P

I don't care. As long as you don't ruin my game, or ruin others I really don't usually have a problem with you . I love everyone on PSO ^_^ Except the assholes.

[Vantamiath]

On 2003-02-24 15:21, TeamPhalanx wrote:
As for me being the last, no, I'm not. I still play with other honest people and, on occasion, I meet a new one.

As for the members here, DangerousDj and blue-hawk come to mind.



Throw me a frickin' bone here.

[Zolpner]

Hmm. . . so from that point of view, people that cram all night for a big test are cheating since they are doing research to find all the answers before actually taking the test?


yea I said it was munted i was tired and didnt know why I posted it i shall remove/edit
sorry

edit: GAH DAMN I FORGOT YOU QUOTED IT, ITS STLL THERE X| , umm... can u please edit out o_O

~Zolp~



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[Zolpner]

On 2003-02-25 08:36, Tigger wrote:
That's what it sounds like to me too. There's nothing wrong with getting help, and there is certianly nothing wrong with saving. I mean otherwise what's the point? Games nowadays usually exceed over 15 hours of play, and certain bossess/stages etc are constructed so that you have to form new strategies to beat them, even if it means constantly dying.

But if you want to play a game for twenty hours straight only to die at the last boss, more power to you.

By what your saying it sounds like you shouldn't even be able to pause, because that would be "cheating" too.



hmm about the saving I ment that in games like heros of M&M so i geuss it was stupid to put in
also the whole post was stupid I was pretty damn tired -o-

~Zolp~

[Blood_Dragoon]

I removed the quote from my previous post.

But you should never post when you're dead tired. Drunk is ok but tired no. . . http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Zolpner]

lol gotcha,
thx for removing


~zolp~

[Wewt]

Wow.

^ One word post, so condemn me to hell.

[Ness]

The legits are extinct. On DC I wasn't legit, but I decided to go straight on GC. There is NO ONE here that is completely legit.

[Raist]

On 2003-02-26 12:02, Ness wrote:
The legits are extinct. On DC I wasn't legit, but I decided to go straight on GC. There is NO ONE here that is completely legit.


Don't say things you can't possibly know. There are more than a few people here who play strictly legitimatley.

[Blood_Dragoon]

On 2003-02-26 12:02, Ness wrote:
The legits are extinct. On DC I wasn't legit, but I decided to go straight on GC. There is NO ONE here that is completely legit.



Well if you hung around on Oberon and Vega all day then I can see why you think that way. . .

However there are many of us on here that are completely legit.

[Zeebo]

Ok lets just leave it as this Cheaters are just natures quiters they suck at everything so they have to cheat. Ive never cheated at a game till i passed it but who knows when ill actully get to 200 and beat this game.... After that i just do that to keep the game exiting but i doubt ill need to cheat at this game 200 and then theres all those diff classes to try out

[Wewt]

On 2003-02-26 12:06, Raist wrote:

On 2003-02-26 12:02, Ness wrote:
The legits are extinct. On DC I wasn't legit, but I decided to go straight on GC. There is NO ONE here that is completely legit.


Don't say things you can't possibly know. There are more than a few people here who play strictly legitimatley.


Am I the only person that finds this slightly amusing? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Hi. I am president of Mars.

[Raist]

On 2003-02-26 17:06, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:

On 2003-02-26 12:06, Raist wrote:

On 2003-02-26 12:02, Ness wrote:
The legits are extinct. On DC I wasn't legit, but I decided to go straight on GC. There is NO ONE here that is completely legit.


Don't say things you can't possibly know. There are more than a few people here who play strictly legitimatley.


Am I the only person that finds this slightly amusing? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Hi. I am president of Mars.


My Leige!
I'm affraid your wit has evaded me, if your reffering to the fact that I can't know that people here play legitimatley...well I can know that I do and anybody offline has to. Other than that there are people here who have convinced me that they do.

[Wewt]

On 2003-02-26 19:51, Raist wrote:
My Leige!
I'm affraid your wit has evaded me, if your reffering to the fact that I can't know that people here play legitimatley...well I can know that I do and anybody offline has to. Other than that there are people here who have convinced me that they do.


I simply found your comment funny. "Don't say things you can't possibly know."

That was said on the message board, about other users'(strangers) way of playing a game. Classic.

Just that the anonymity that the Internet provides, anybody can be legit, or a cheater. Just like how I could be the president of Mars. Maybe I should be a Dictator instead, or a King.

On a side note: isn't there an offline dupe method?

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[IronKnight]

So, being "legit" means not trading with others, not hanging out with other "non-legits", and never using any kind of exploit? Wow sure sounds like alot of fun!! (No it doesn't it sounds pretty anti-social - Ed.)

I don't know but alot of the people here who claim they are legit have cheated before. And alot of the others seem to just claim "legitimacy" to sound better than others.

I'm not "elite H@X0R" but if someone offers me a cool wep I'll take it. I still remember the first rare I found on my own in PSO... A Spread Needle after 800 hours of playtime; And I realized that the game is much more interesting if you accept handouts! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Raist]

On 2003-02-26 20:08, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:
On a side note: isn't there an offline dupe method?


Yeah, I think thats how they avoided the double save patch. But in any case, try not to over-analyze or my posts will never make sense. Ness said that nobody on this site is legit, thats obviously not true and I just tried to state that, but I guess I stuck my foot in my mouth in how I worded it.

[Wewt]

I know. Over-analyzing it all will just get people confused. It'll probably even make people think they've become cheaters. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Blood_Dragoon]

On 2003-02-26 19:51, Raist wrote:

On 2003-02-26 17:06, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:

On 2003-02-26 12:06, Raist wrote:

On 2003-02-26 12:02, Ness wrote:
The legits are extinct. On DC I wasn't legit, but I decided to go straight on GC. There is NO ONE here that is completely legit.


Don't say things you can't possibly know. There are more than a few people here who play strictly legitimatley.


Am I the only person that finds this slightly amusing? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Hi. I am president of Mars.


My Leige!
I'm affraid your wit has evaded me, if your reffering to the fact that I can't know that people here play legitimatley...well I can know that I do and anybody offline has to. Other than that there are people here who have convinced me that they do.



First off Mars doesn't have a president. It has a dictator. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

To me, most of these people that say no one can play this game legit seem to have cheated one way or another and then assumed that since they couldn't do it 100% legit that no one else can either. There are alot of people like me and probably quite a few others on this forum that have played this game 100% legit since V.1. Do we expect everyone to worship us for it? No, we just want to encourage the newbies that it is possible to play this game without cheating at all. But to go around telling people they can't be 100% legit is like telling the Buccs that they didn't win the Superbowl this year. . .

[Raist]

On 2003-02-26 20:14, IronKnight wrote:
So, being "legit" means not trading with others

Not true, use common sense and you can remain legit, people sometimes analyze the hell out of being truelly legit but seriously just use common sense and you trade all you want.

not hanging out with other "non-legits"

I hang out with anybody who wants to play with me, why that would make me not legit is beyond me, like I said people tend to over-analyze it and completely forget why the hell they are being legit.

Think about this quick, since GC PSO really doesn't have any codes being used on it, right now if duping didn't exist, everybody would be legit whether they wanted to be or not.

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[Malkavian]

I'm legit and I do trade. Trade is not cheat. Cheat is have items that come from dupe or hack. obviously is hard to make legit trades. But if you trade with friends you trust or items that are quite common, thats absolutely legit,

[Eum]

On 2003-02-26 12:02, Ness wrote:
The legits are extinct. On DC I wasn't legit, but I decided to go straight on GC. There is NO ONE here that is completely legit.



That makes absolutely no sense. Per usual, but:

How can your statement be true if you're legit? And, there are people who are completely legit. It's called: playing offline.

[GandorDurin]

On 2003-02-28 11:54, Eum wrote:

And, there are people who are completely legit. It's called: playing offline.


Some but not all! Don't forget about cheat devices, bought or home-grown.
Also I thought there was an offline duping method (not interested in this being clarified, just bringing it up to add to my "point,") which would shrink the legit pile even further.

Perhaps it's better this way, now it's easy to see who is really trustworthy! Of course, it's a lot easier to trust someone that doesn't say "noob" and not bring someone back to life during a boss fight. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

Anyway a game is the last place people should discriminate, it's supposed to be fun or so the story goes!

Well I'm surprised I was able to get that many words on the screen, I forgot to sleep again.

[Eum]

Obviously, you missed my point.

Ness said no one was completely legit. By pointing out the offline option, I was implying that there wasn't any way your typical legit player couldn't be legit offline, as there is no possibility of interaction with the rest of the "dirty" network, so to speak.

[GandorDurin]

On 2003-02-28 13:16, Eum wrote:
Obviously, you missed my point.



Obviously. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

[AkisuDesmond]

I just got this game less than a week ago. I don't even know what duping is or how it works, I'm goign to assume its the equivalent of duplicating an item in Diablo. Just wanted to say I will never cheat in PSO, even if I find a glitch or hack or whatever, theres no point in using it... mainly because after watching my cousin "play" Diablo 2, I realized, cheating just makes you play less over time, I want my 9 dollar a month value! (I say "play" because he actually had a bot running that did all the work for him...)

Anyways, I am a legit player with a level 45 HUcast, mainly because I have not been exposed to the entire world of PSO, and played offline 30 of those levels. There are legit players, and there will always be legit players... not in Diablo 2... but in PSO, it seems that there are enough people who care about not cheating that there will always be legit players.

[Mystil]

In my opinion...cheating is highly hyped and overrated. Just like finding 'rares' is. All of it is very overrated. Do any of you see the silliness in aurguing over stuff like this?

< -- ! Include Contradiction -->

Then again, without this lameness, PSO would suck.

// End Include Contradiction -- >

[Ranger_Larry]

When you stop and think about it... This is a GAME. Ok, you are level 140+, you have beaten Falz and Olga...what's left? Either hunt for rares, or goof off with dupes. This game is so easy you don't even need rares to beat it. Perhaps in the next PSO, Sega should consider making a LARGER GAME! This is the THIRD version of the same game, and basically has 8 levels.

On top of all of this, you can't even use 1 character and use it to find all of your rares, due to the goofy section ID thing. It's so lame, if a gun was lying around somewhere, it would be a 9mm whether you found it, or I found it lol. Also, how about rewarding people for obtaining level 200? You should get to choose any of the S rank weopons, because after all of that you would deserve it. If Sega would make some improvements to the game there would be no need for duping. You waste your life away looking for stuff you will never find.....

[Raist]

The point of having things limited to each section ID is Sega's way of encouraging people to trade.

[Phelan]

Well, as of now, I am completely Legit, no matter the fact that the game isn't out for my xbox yet http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif Anyway, hopefully the closed xboxlive servers will help keep PSOX from getting ruined by the cheaters which have ruined it on the other systems.

[Blue-Hawk]

On 2003-03-01 15:38, Phelan wrote:
Well, as of now, I am completely Legit, no matter the fact that the game isn't out for my xbox yet http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif Anyway, hopefully the closed xboxlive servers will help keep PSOX from getting ruined by the cheaters which have ruined it on the other systems.


wont work. duping has already been discovered.

[Ariana]

On 2003-02-24 14:36, _Zero_ wrote:
You are right about nobody being 100% legit. Hell if you trade you are cheating. There is nothing more satisfying than finding that weapon you have been looking for instead of getting it through a trade.



How can trading be cheating if the makers of the game provided a trade window option in the latest version of PSO?

[Balthor]

On 2003-03-01 23:13, Ariana wrote:

On 2003-02-24 14:36, _Zero_ wrote:
You are right about nobody being 100% legit. Hell if you trade you are cheating. There is nothing more satisfying than finding that weapon you have been looking for instead of getting it through a trade.



How can trading be cheating if the makers of the game provided a trade window option in the latest version of PSO?



Because Sonic Team doesn't know about all this stupid "Legit/Non-Legit" shit that goes on in PSO, the trade window's there, and it's there, if people are resorting to call the trade window a form of cheating, well they're fucking dumb, and just need more excuses to be the eltist legits they wanna be.

[Ariana]

Personally, I am very definitely against cheating. But I think that anything that ST accounted for and planned to be in the game doesn't count as cheating. If you're using a glitch or a cheat device, well, that's different.

[Raist]

There not calling the trade window cheating. There reffering to trading as cheating in reference to the fact that everybody's trade list consists of at least four or five dupes, with a few exeptions. But thats what they mean. You can trade legitimatley, just use common sense, that J-Sword they're trading for your photon drops isn't legit.

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[Eum]

Better watch out. If you press start while running through traps, you are a cheater!

OMFG O NO O NO1111

[Blood_Dragoon]

On 2003-03-02 01:41, Balthor_The_Defiled wrote:

Because Sonic Team doesn't know about all this stupid "Legit/Non-Legit" shit that goes on in PSO, the trade window's there, and it's there, if people are resorting to call the trade window a form of cheating, well they're fucking dumb, and just need more excuses to be the eltist legits they wanna be.



Actually it isn't the elitist legits that say the trade window is a form of cheating. It's the people who aren't legit for one reason or another and are agitated by the fact others actually stayed 100% legit. Still some of this stuff leaves me with the question: If common sense is supposed to be common, why is it that so few people have any?

[Ariana]

Yes, I've noticed that the people who tend to argue that no one is 100% legit are the ones who openly cheat or dupe themselves, and they want to argue that others are no better than they are, or at the very least that they are hypocrites.

I disagree.

[Wewt]

On 2003-03-03 00:16, Blood_Dragoon wrote:
If common sense is supposed to be common, why is it that so few people have any?


You are my new best friend for today.

Thank you for the laugh.

[Aldark]

I'm sure some people have never cheated like my friend that hasn't played PSO on the internet and he believes that no one has ever created a cheat on the games that you can play on the internet.

[Cl0ud]

What your friend thinks is ridiculous.

[Blood_Dragoon]

On 2003-03-09 19:14, Aldark wrote:
I'm sure some people have never cheated like my friend that hasn't played PSO on the internet and he believes that no one has ever created a cheat on the games that you can play on the internet.



Well your friend is way off. Just look at Diablo. Maybe 5 in 10,000 people that played it weren't cheating when you played on b.net. Diablo 2 had alot of duping that took place until Blizzard actually sat down and fixed it. Still love that message they left in the chatrooms that read "All your dupes are belong to us.". http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif Most FPS games like Counterstrike, Quake 3, UT, etc have trainers and hacks that people use online. There are a few online games out there that are cheat free but they are far and few.

[Aldark]

I know he just doesn't realize it.

[Blue147]

so when is everyone going to realize this is just a video game.lol

[Blood_Dragoon]

On 2003-03-10 17:14, Blue147 wrote:
so when is everyone going to realize this is just a video game.lol



Probably when everyone in the world plays legit and cheating doesn't exist anymore. . . http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[tigone01]

i believe that anyone who dupes, or looks for dupers/duped items is just scared to play the game, or has a serious confidence problem. these items and activities can ruin someone elses gaming experience, so why do it. we shouldn't stress out about something that is supposed to help us relax.

[the_af]

On 2003-03-10 17:14, Blue147 wrote: so when is everyone going to realize this is just a video game.lol

They won't, if they haven't already. Or, 2-3 years after they stop playing, and happen back by these forums or similar.

[Zeebo]

NEVER this is life!

[Dark-Hunter]

all i have to say is the last legit could be the biggest cheater, can any of you prove that all his/her items are legit? show me some solid evidence and i will take back what i said.

[tigone01]

people who dupe are missing the best part of the game, the excitment of finding your own weapons and armor. when you need to have the best weapons to play the game you miss the point of playing, and take the challenge out of the game.

[Mystil]

^ As I've been saying for the past few days.

[goaliedude10]

I'm legit, since I haven't been online yet! No twinking either!

[Orange_Coconut]

Twinking? I don't beleive I have heard that word before. However I think there are a lot of Legits out there, myself included...

[Blood_Dragoon]

On 2003-03-13 19:43, Orange_Coconut wrote:
Twinking? I don't beleive I have heard that word before. However I think there are a lot of Legits out there, myself included...


Aren't you having fun being a minority on this game? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif I know I am. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif Now who mentioned twinkies cause now I'm hungry. . .

I would prefer that legit players were the majority though. . . http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Orange_Coconut]

Me too, dupers kinda bug me but I try not to get on their cases. It's there problem, not mine http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[marionettemaster]

i wonder how many of you legit pso players are.. legit in real life? do any of you have mp3s or pirated software on your computers, etc etc?

just wondering if ya guys stick to your pso legitness morales in everyday life. please don't flame, just a question.

[Orange_Coconut]

Personally, I don't have any Emulators, roms, mp3's... I don't have burned Cd's, nothing.. I am a kid who just doesn't need much, however that of which I have, I earned.

[Driadyte]

Yeah, people take this dupe/legit thing way to seriously. Like it was said before, if people playing with dupes bothers you that much, play password games with people you trust. Problem solved.

Although, an interesting question about offline only people using the offline method of duping: Are they dupers or are they still legit? Everything that they could dupe had to be found by them, or one of the other characters on their memory card. Unless two people are sharing the same card and they dupe each others weapons!!! OMFG, THEY DUPE EACH OTHERS WEAPONS THERE PROBALY GHEY TOOO!!!111oneoneone

Hmm...I could take out that last line, but I think it's kinda funny if you realize that I'm not serious at all. Mods can edit if they want, I don't care that much. I suppose I should take advice and not post when I'm dead tired (been up for 30+ hours with about 5 hours of sleep thrown in the middle, working both days).

Anyway, my question about offline-only dupers still stands. Kind of a paradox thing, like the half-empty or half-full glass.

[Blue147]

On 2003-03-12 06:52, tigone01 wrote:
people who dupe are missing the best part of the game, the excitment of finding your own weapons and armor. when you need to have the best weapons to play the game you miss the point of playing, and take the challenge out of the game.




lol.i love it when people force their opinions on others its funny and show how truly vane they are.lol

once anain it still just a game not even that great when you think about realy about it but it's still fun.

i find the dupers dont ruin the game for me its the carzy so called legit people who bitch about very thing they dont like.if you dont like how other people play the game you dont have to play with them dur.

im not legit nor im i a cheater i just play the game in a way that is fun for me.lol



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[Blenjar]

I hate legits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!with dupers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
POLITICS SUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RuneLateralus]

Ok, everone. Cool it! Do not make have to tell you again!

[Blue147]

ahhh dont hurt me! *runs away*

[2Xtreme]

No one on this site is 100% legit... I've seen "angels" throwin out some hacked mags.

Do you want me to (again) start my rant about how I am honestly 100% legit? It's possible to be 100% legit, and it's easy. Sure, it means no trading or accepting gifts, but I never cared. Next time, know what you're talking about before your fingers hit the keys.

[Mystil]

Well all I have to say, before this is/if this is locked. That Phalanx reminds me of my friend Alexander heh. The words of those who know what they are talking about as far as this game is concerned is enough to make anyone go '100%' legit.

It is, and forever will be possible to be fully legit. Nothing you have can be hacked/duped. Nothing you have can be illegal. Standardized definition. But I follow a different one.

You can hate people that dupe, but you also have to look at it from all angles and understand why they do it. There are many good reasons to cheat in the game, and more and more I see reasons myself to do it.

But wont happen. FSOD-X is a good reason to cheat away. Or maybe you want to stash away spares of your rares just incase. Handing them out to everyone in the game is debilitating -true true. What can you do about it?

Deal with it.

Cheaters have a reason to cheat.

Legit players have a reason to be legit.

Whilst they'll never be coexistence between the two factions. The rest I have to say is going to be nonsense so.(And all of what I already said might be anyway)

[lockeboy]

TeamPhalanx isn't the last.

I'm right there as well.

I've traded in the past, but I threw out the items and given up on trading. I have 12 characters, all sections IDs .. if I really want something I'll get it myself.

[Ranger_Larry]

Why is Phalanx the Last Legit on this forum, and "Full of grace....the The First Legit on his guild card?! lol So Phalanx, you are saying you are the only legit? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[TeamPhalanx]

To sum it up, this whole post was about Sean realizing something.

Bascially, he realized that there is no such thing as 100% Legit. That you either cheat or you don't cheat; you're either legit or you're a cheater - There is no inbetween.

I'm guessing that, going by that, most of the people he knew weren't legit.

As for the "First" thing on the card, that was just a jest. The "Last" comment, I believe, was made during PSO DC (v1). I can't say "Last" in the GC version... Not at this time... Anyway, I've changed it since. It's been replaced with "Forever."

[Liet]

i am 100% true-blood legit. I only play offline (no $$ for online) and don't have any traded-for items. YEAH for ME

[Zeebo]

im 100% legit too so what did you read what this forum got into discussing.....

[LordCronai]

Here's a question. Say I wanted to become legit, would it be too late, or could I drop everything duped and call myself legit?

[Raist]

On 2003-03-31 07:46, LordCronai wrote:
Here's a question. Say I wanted to become legit, would it be too late, or could I drop everything duped and call myself legit?

Yes, at least I'd consider you so, as i think most people would.

[LordCronai]

I may consider it, I'm kind of getting bored now that I have everything I ever wanted equipped =|
I transfered all my dupes to another character that I don't ever use to try out being legit. If I like it, I may get rid of my dupes.

[Raist]

Sweet deal, well I hope you like it. I notice quite a few people going legit because of boredom.

[Firocket1690]

actually....
here are more legit ppl than you think ...
I'm probably the only person that turned down a demo comet,150pow chu chu along wit 4 God/Pow
and, damn it's desperate when you corrupt 6 times *sigh*

BTW... anybody ever see a HUmar named "Shadow "
in the DC lobbies, bitching about the legit stuff, that was MeEeEeEEeeee !!!! ^_~

now it's twin is STILL LEGIT on GC servers
XbX sux =P

anywho ...
let's continue flaming cheaters and celebrating with legits!!
*hugs TeamPhalanx*
*opens 'cheaters' forums and continues flaming dupers*