Rangers: Gunblade Glitch

[SegaK2]

I had been happily playing PS0 and leveling up my Ranger when I read on these Forums about the Gunblade Glitch.

I am extremely dissapointed that Sega did not fix this for the US release -- I was literally able to defeat the Dragon on the very first pass simply by spamming the attack button (after using the Glitch). In addition I cleared a Challenge Room simply by standing still and spamming the attack button.

You can say, "Don't use the Glitch, then" but simply knowing that it is there (and others might use it while playing online) has completely sucked the fun out of using my Ranger <whoosh>!!

I may start a new Character (non-Ranger obviously) but this won't prevent others from using it online.

This doesn't seem like something Sega can fix either - why they chose not to prior to the US release is very puzzling.

[Akaimizu]

Yeah. I know about it. I just don't do it, mainly. It's kind of something you have to do on purpose as well, but the thing isn't exactly fun to use, either.

[Ice_ryu]

drop out of the game if there doing it and join another game. cheating can not be stopped in any way. Soon you will have the cheaters out with there gameshraks or whatever cheating. and who knows if Sodaboy is already working on a proxy for this.
Just play with peeps you know and play fair.

[Akaimizu]

Makes sense. People were doing that for previous Phantasy Star games. Seems none get out without some sort of glitch getting through. In PSU, you had the Mechgun glitch, and while some version of it has been there forever, there are some who abused it, others who refused it, and others who tried it to see if it worked and then decided against continuing due to taking out the fun factor.

It's your choice to stick around those who use the abuse and fortunately, this is one of those ones in which nothing happens to you, you can simply leave those games.

[Zero Revenge]

Just don't use it...

Don't see the big deal.

Only play with people you know if it bothers you that much.

[Ice_ryu]

Hey Zero, can you go to Perth Amboy in NJ and tell all my peeps I said whats up

[jmanx]

IF ITS BUILT IN ITS LEGIT TO ME :D

[GHNeko]

IF ITS BUILT IN ITS LEGIT TO ME :D

This guy would do well in competitive fighters. LOLOLOL.

[Akaimizu]

In competitive fighters, all is fair. We do remember that Street Fighter 2 tourneys were made based on players utilizing glitches not purposely programmed in. Well, unless the tourney specifically makes it known that certain glitches are outlawed. Of course, certain glitches, in those games, need quite skilled and steady hands to pull off.

Bomberman games also often utilized glitches in there. (Anybody remember the famous Saturn Bomberman Invincible Dino Dismount and Remount trick? It needed great timing to do, but some players had a knack for pulling it off and were practically unstoppable then.)

Still, playing legit and playing with legit players is a choice. Particularly in a PvE game such as this.

[GHNeko]

This game doesnt even have the ability to hit your team mates. XD

[NintendoMan]

does this work strictly for rangers?
also what exactly is this? Ive never heard or seen it

[GHNeko]

Gunblade has 2 glitches IIRC. One works for any class capable of using specific type of guns like Mechs and something else and gunblades, and the other works for anyone who can simply use a gunblade.

[Zephton]

Gunblade has 2 glitches IIRC. One works for any class capable of using specific type of guns like Mechs and something else and gunblades, and the other works for anyone who can simply use a gunblade.

The first being the no time in between shots glitch, and the second being the slash-slash-shot one?

[GHNeko]

The first being the no time in between shots glitch, and the second being the slash-slash-shot one?

Yeeep.

Actually. i wouldnt even call the slash slash shot glitch an actually glitch. It's more or less an exploit because it doesn't break programming or anything. You're just abusing the mechanics of the weapon's features within the boundaries of the game's programming.

Like Melee Wavedashing.

[jmanx]

This guy would do well in competitive fighters. LOLOLOL.

inb4 Falco's landmaster

[GHNeko]

inb4 Falco's landmaster

.....................oh gooooddddddd nooooooooo

[SegaK2]

Just don't use it...

Don't see the big deal.

Only play with people you know if it bothers you that much.

Great points, everyone.

I guess the 'big deal' is primarily frustration that Sega didn't fix this -- they had what (a year?) after the Japanese launch -- seems like this could have been addressed.

In terms of playing with people you trust I'm all for that (going back to the Dreamcast PSO days it was a MUST for things far more malicious than this); however, it's a bit challenging to find 3 other people that are consistently online right now via Friend Codes (might just be me) - so have been using Free Play quite a bit...

[paulfalcon]

Hmm... the glitch? Is it when you go up close to the enemy and shoot it? If so, I think it's pretty legit since, all three lasers hit the enemy at once... or was it an auto KO? o.o

[Kyrith_Ranger_Pso]

wut is the glitch!?

[TacoGhost]

Yeeep.

Actually. i wouldnt even call the slash slash shot glitch an actually glitch. It's more or less an exploit because it doesn't break programming or anything. You're just abusing the mechanics of the weapon's features within the boundaries of the game's programming.

Like Melee Wavedashing.


Wait, the Slash-Slash-Shot combo is actually a glitch? Here I've been doing it like it was intended in the game, lol.

[GHNeko]

It's not a glitch imo. It's an exploit. But hey. Maybe they do know about it. Who knows?

[Padium]

In terms of playing with people you trust I'm all for that (going back to the Dreamcast PSO days it was a MUST for things far more malicious than this); however, it's a bit challenging to find 3 other people that are consistently online right now via Friend Codes (might just be me) - so have been using Free Play quite a bit...

My best friend's older brother had his character hacked and turned into some fat man thingy permanently stuck at lvl 0

[Hitoshura]

This game doesnt even have the ability to hit your team mates. XD

Somebody needs to get some reverse Resta going on soon.

[Hucast-Kireek]

No one messes with mah Blade Cannon-zors! This exploit was also in PSU if its the one I think.

[kirtblue]

the slash slash shot thing didnt seem very usefull i dunno if i would call it a cheat

[Hunter-Vix]

the slash slash shot thing didnt seem very usefull i dunno if i would call it a cheat

Yeah, I agree. I don't see the real overpowering of this glitch/exploit, other than that it hits quickly. I can still deal out more damage with a heavy attack combo with daggers or a double saber. With the slash slash shoot thing, that's still only 3 hits right? and gunblades aren't all that strong.

[GHNeko]

Yeah, I agree. I don't see the real overpowering of this glitch/exploit, other than that it hits quickly. I can still deal out more damage with a heavy attack combo with daggers or a double saber. With the slash slash shoot thing, that's still only 3 hits right? and gunblades aren't all that strong.

No. It doesn't still count as 3 hits. It counts as 5.

The damage isnt the only advantage of the exploit to be honest.

Other weapons such as daggers and double sabers net you more damage overall, yes.

But really, 5 hit exploit still nets you more damage than gunblade's 3 hit combo. You hit 5 times, meaning you have 5 chances to inflict the element of the weapon rather than 3. You also auto lock on with this exploit incase they move out of aim making this weapon a lot more potent against mobile enemies. This combo has less cool down overall than the traditional 3 hit combo, meaning that you hit faster than a 3 hit combo. This exploit allows spread damage, giving it sword/spear like capabilities in combo form, so if you're fighting a swarm of enemies and you use this exploit, you can hit multiple enemies on the last input (and you have a chance to inflict your element on said swarm.)

And last but not least, you have a weapon that is a gun and a sword at the same time that is actually worth using and NOT completely exclusive to RA.

tbh, imo, the Gunblade with the 5hit exploit and without the Gun Glitch is probably one of the better HU weapons to carry around.

:3

DPS on this weapon with this exploit is probably one of the positives that matter the least. :V

[Mike]

The simple fact is that with gunblades, Sega never intended for them to be used in the slash - slash - shot combo, which is why the animation isn't smooth.

As for why Sega never got around to fixing these particular glitches, I think it's because that would mean Japanese players and non-Japanese players wouldn't be able to play together. Something about the programming be too different. Just a thought though.

[Amherst_Wind]

This exploit allows spread damage, giving it sword/spear like capabilities in combo form, so if you're fighting a swarm of enemies and you use this exploit, you can hit multiple enemies on the last input (and you have a chance to inflict your element on said swarm.)


Except no, presuming you're close enough to an enemy to actually utilise the first two melee hits then the last shot is just going to all hit the same enemy.

Seriously though, I've never seen this much whining over such a tiny glitch, considering action replay is 100% compatible with this game and people could be running around 1HKO every monster in every room getting 10 levels each time they do... nope, you guys would rather complain that people who use a gunblade can shoot it after attacking twice... dear lord.

[Mike]

It is the lesser of two evils but it doesn't make it not evil.

[Amherst_Wind]

I still think its an over-reaction to a tiny glitch, but hey thats my online Phantasy Star game rite!?

[Trina]

What? I thought you were ment to do that. I remember doing so after Kai did it in safety first mode. Attack -> Attack -> Charge Shot -> Hold down key -> Earth Bullet combo for awesome.

[Akaimizu]

Still. I think a good point was made into why it wasn't fixed in the US release, because it needs to connect with the Japanese release, so the same abilities of combat need to be the same as the Japanese counterpart. Unlike a game that can be patched, they have no intention on going back and re-releasing a new Japanese patched version to match the US one, if they did.

[Mike]

I still think its an over-reaction to a tiny glitch, but hey thats my online Phantasy Star game rite!?
That's right! And at least I'm not some crazy reporter looking to for a scoop at a weather terminal!

[BH.Donyxz]

I do kind of wish there was some pvp, oh well...

[GHNeko]

Except no, presuming you're close enough to an enemy to actually utilise the first two melee hits then the last shot is just going to all hit the same enemy.

False. It generally only happens on extremely mobile enemies, but it can happen, as it's happened to me before. Most notably, the Eureka Seven wannabes in Plant. I know what I saw. >_>

Seriously though, I've never seen this much whining over such a tiny glitch, considering action replay is 100% compatible with this game and people could be running around 1HKO every monster in every room getting 10 levels each time they do... nope, you guys would rather complain that people who use a gunblade can shoot it after attacking twice... dear lord.

Scrubs exists in all forms.

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[Cryptic]

apparently you can combo together daggers to their photon arts by charging up on either the second or third attack and it does take some practice to get it just right..without having to stall much if at all but from my tests reverse kill tends to charge up faster to the point that by 3rd attack im charged up and i can release it

just need to test air ride though...so i'll have to check that too..but need to farm for a set that has it since shops apparently don't have it -.-'

heh apparently I can pull it off with barehanded as well so I guess any weapon with similar attack speed could probably do this combo to PA attack

[sylwyn]

I do kind of wish there was some pvp, oh well...

What? PvP is blowing up a burn trap(red boxes) and hitting needler traps while your teammates are in the line fire~ :-P

[Zephton]

I do kind of wish there was some pvp, oh well...

No
Forces would kill everyone
Would not work

[GHNeko]

No
Forces would kill everyone
Would not work

Just like in BB. LOL.

[Aziel]

Kai does the gunblade glitch all the time, lol.

[GHNeko]

Kai does the gunblade glitch all the time, lol.

...wat

that makes no sense.

if the AI does the glitch/exploit, then its not a glitch/exploit as the developers purposefully put it in.

<_>

and sure as hell dont see Kai do slashx2-shoot. <_>

ever.

[Aziel]

...wat

that makes no sense.

if the AI does the glitch/exploit, then its not a glitch/exploit as the developers purposefully put it in.

<_>

and sure as hell dont see Kai do slashx2-shoot. <_>

ever.

I'm negating my comment earlier because after some observation, I realized his combo speed is so slow it's not even a glitch at that point, lol.
Typical AI combo slowness.
Not that I mind, it's annoying as hell getting KSed by some 10 dmg hit as is.
That being said...I don't think it's at all possible for a player character to combo as slowly as the PCs do.
I call hax/glitch/qqs.

[Niered]

I honestly dont see what all the fuss is about. As stated earlier, if you dont like it dont use it, but even after I tried it I still didn't find it that amazing. Maybe its just because I hate Gunslashes so much.

[GHNeko]

It's an really good weapon for an all-around character imo.

I love it for its functionality and usefulness. Not its damage. 5 changes to stick elements. 5 hits. Really good for mobile enemies and swarms. Stuff like these.

But I guess I'm more of a "use things for its real potential" player rather than "FOCUS ON ONE STAT AND GOGOGOGOGO" player. :V

[TaciturnBadger]

I'm going to confess to being completely retarded last night.

40 or so floors in to drudging around the Eternal Tower on (ugh) Normal -- hey, I'm a completionist, dammit -- I stumbled across an Axeon with Heat lv. 3 and 50% Beast. (That's Kai's gunblade, for those reading that don't know.) So I pick it up, and say to myself..

"SELF! Gunblades can't suck as badly as you think they do. Try it on these lame-o weak-@$$ monsters!"

..because on Normal, at level 42, the ET monsters are comical.

So I sit there, and fuddle around with it, knowing that after seeing Kai shoot with it, there HAS to be a way to make the gunblade shoot without using it's Photon Art. And, only after a completely random lock-on of a Finjer, the light bulb goes off when the character aimed the gunblade. D'oh!

So, for anyone else who hasn't quite figured out how to shoot with a gunblade and doesn't want to admit it -- HOLD L!!

Okay, I'm done with the Fretarded Confessions of the Day. :-P

[GHNeko]

We should have a thread of information covering things not covered in the manual... rof

[Aziel]

They're very situational items for me, and I mostly find myself using my Nersir on those stupid surfers, and the occasional Izhirak.
I don't really find it an unreasonable exploit--especially considering how ridiculously easy it is to do by accident.
Within the first 2 minutes or so of testing out a gunblade when I got the game, I learned of this glitch. I really didn't expect it to be such a huge topic with the community.
The mechgun glitch I can see, but this..? It's useful, but nowhere near game-breaking, considering how weak gunblades are otherwise.

[GHNeko]

These guys have just never played competitive MvC2 LOLOLOLOL

[kirtblue]

im gunna go ahead and say whats the big deal gunblades are such a let down does it really even matter and apart from that its not as if it does extra damage or anything so who cares

[Vampickle]

Then would the Handgun / Mech Gun's Step Shot > Shoot > Shoot > Shoot ( 4X Hit ) Be considered something like a glitch as well?

[Weeaboolits]

The only thing that makes the slash slash shoot combo seem less than intentional is the jumpy animation for it. It doesn't seem particularly overpowered or anything, don't the bullets do reduced damage anyway? If anything it adds a bit of depth to a weapon that's otherwise just a saber with a shitty ranged attack and fewer worthwhile PAs.

[RAGNAGELPPOD]

I just got this game earlier this week and I had been using the "hit hit shoot" thing naturally since thats what I'm used to from PSU with a Dagger/X bow setup. Now I come here and read that its an exploit?

Wow.

[Djehuti]

So I don't get it, because this all seems ridiculous..

Are you complaining that an animation is glitchy/jumpy?

Its not jumpy when Kai does it, albeit he does it much slower.

Because thats how you're supposed to use a gunblade.

In previous non phantasy star rpg's that had gunblades, that was basically how you were supposed to use them. You bypassed their overall mediocrity by using both weapon functions as simultaneously as possible.

[Maridia]

Ummm, guys. After reading this thread and wondering what the gunblade glitch was, I went and actually looked it up elsewhere. The gunblade glitch isn't slash slash shoot. It's something totally different and you're all freaking out over the wrong thing. Lolz.

The gunblade glitch involves your menu and other guns. And a gunblade. I tried it on my game to see if it worked. It did. But I really don't like gunblades and it's too much effort to make work.

So.. come on, stop spazzing about slashslashshoot. It may not be intended, but it's not all that bad. And it's NOT "The Gunblade Glitch".

edit: I'm specifically not saying what it is because it's against the rules to post glitches or cheats and I recommend that nobody else posts it in here either.

[ブルーベリー]

I have a request from everyone.

Please don't use this. It's ridiculous. It breaks the game. It's an exploit, and it's not fun.

The gunblade glitch makes your arms wave up and down from holding the guns up to shooting and you can spam bullets as fast as you can hit the attack button. It's ridiculously overpowered, unfun and breaks the game.

Please do not use it.

The falz glitch on the other hand I don't mind too much.. but I still prefer to fight him myself, now, after tiring of the glitch.

[kirtblue]

ok i dont know how this stupid rumor got started but slash slash shoot is not a glitch of any kind the real gunblade glitch is annoying as hell and basicly allows you to have an endless stream of bullets

[Veserius]

I accidentally did hit1-hit2-shoot-hit2 when I was going through Eternal Tower yesterday. After messing around some more I was able to cancel the hit 2 back into another shot to get hit-hit-shoot-hit-shoot. The timing on this is really strict, and I don't know if you can do it infinitely.

After some testing I realized you have to cancel both the first and second hit of the combo very early in the animation for this to work.

[kirtblue]

im not saying its not goofy looking im just saying its not a glitch and the funny thing is nobody seems to care about slash slash tech

[ブルーベリー]

Because its difficult and doesnt really benefit you much. Also the shot is weak.

[kirtblue]

Because its difficult and doesnt really benefit you much. Also the shot is weak.

so is slash slash shoot its weak as gunblades are and everybody seems to think its a horrorable glitch that somehow makes you more powerful

[ブルーベリー]

No.. you just don't know about the right glitch obviously, the one you think of is the wrong glitch. This glitch is the gunblade glitch it makes you fire like x times a second based on how fast you can spam your attack button.

It also ruins your shoulder buttons.

[kirtblue]

No.. you just don't know about the right glitch obviously, the one you think of is the wrong glitch. This glitch is the gunblade glitch it makes you fire like x times a second based on how fast you can spam your attack button.

It also ruins your shoulder buttons.

listen here troll if your gunna comment read the previous posts