View Full Version : SH Tower is ridiculous...
Tizerak
01-04-2010, 02:46 PM
ugh this feels like its taking forever and ive died a couple times on the first 40 floors. And have gotten nothing notable in those 40 floors and I got 4 blade mothers and nothing.... ugh
I hate this place
Of course ill prolly get all giddy if something good drops and then ill love the place ^^;
Im really hoping for a Radam soul, this Rappy one is ugly
Vayne
01-04-2010, 02:49 PM
It is pretty tough! I just did 10 floors and found a Garland Drei woo!
mid Knight
01-04-2010, 02:52 PM
Yeah I hate it when the mothers don't drop a single red box at all. They should make it so that they should at least drop one red box when you defeated her!
Pokerealm
01-04-2010, 02:56 PM
Yeah I hate it when the mothers don't drop a single red box at all. They should make it so that they should at least drop one red box when you defeated her!
True, but I believe the mothers have boosted drops for the souls, which is also nice.
So far, all the souls I found were from mothers, 4 in total.
Tizerak
01-04-2010, 03:07 PM
This place has really created a love-hate relationship for me and the NPCs I hate that I cant make my own custom tactic to get em to do what I want cause they're so worthless on damage and dont heal or anything when they're supposed to but its funny as hell watching sarisa rez a teamate and not heal him only to watch it die again.
Sometimes ill just get so mad at them ill run up to an explosive box and blow it up just to watch em die.
rhubarbot
01-04-2010, 03:08 PM
I've never found a soul from a mother, and I've run through the tower sooooooooooooooomanytimes. Seriously, I've done like 8 full runs (1 N, 5 H, 2 SH) and like dozens and dozens of partial runs (usually just to floor 20), and I've only ever seen souls come from normal enemies.
That said, I am probably just very unlucky. Out of all of those tower runs, I only ever found 3 Arkharz, 2 Femini and 0 Radam. (I had to trade for my Radam Soul after just getting flat-out sick of the tower.)
I've also never found even one truly great rare item from the towers. I have, however, fed quite a few nice no-element Alice Oliviae, Foie Hazes, Riverman Missouris and the like to my mags, along with a couple 2-slot Rika's Suits. :(
lol Im running the Tower as we speak... Blade Mother just dropped Ecclamash and Morgonlote,.
FOrulz
01-04-2010, 03:43 PM
I usually don't look forward to anything special when fighting the mothers (got all green drops from 3 mothers once). The exception is Heaven's mother, since she has some very rare item drops (101th floor).
Inn3rfury
01-04-2010, 03:44 PM
Ugh I got to about floor 70 on SH tower. All I've fought are Shot and Force Mothers.
Also I might add. I'M A HUCAST.
Tizerak
01-04-2010, 03:48 PM
well finally got something kinda neat off force mother on 50th a lvl 4 elemental Alice Olivia no %'s though
Tizerak
01-04-2010, 04:02 PM
I think when you get Reeve as an NPC he should pilot Humilias....
rhubarbot
01-04-2010, 04:05 PM
well finally got something kinda neat off force mother on 50th a lvl 4 elemental Alice Olivia no %'s though
NICE! Far better than anything Force Mother's ever given me. ^^;
Yoite
01-04-2010, 04:38 PM
The only thing i remebered getting was a femini soul o 0 im still trying to get noble cloaks - - 4 slots havent even found one yet
pso_crash
01-04-2010, 04:42 PM
My first tower run I found bunches of loot. Mostly guns tho because I managed to get 8 shot mothers.
XianForce
01-04-2010, 05:51 PM
Haha my friend and I were doing it on normal (separately of course), and when he defeated the Heaven's Mother at the end, he got like 10 rares... When I did it, I didn't get a single rare in the entire tower 0.o...
I was mad haha.
Cryptic
01-04-2010, 06:10 PM
It's not about the drops, it's about the leveling >.> though rares may motivate you, where Eternal Tower shines is helping you lvl up quite nicely..as I recall my first run in Hard mode with my lvl 30 or so HuCast gave me a close lvl to around 60 by the end of it...so yea...it was worth it..xD and I got a few rares too ..
rickfrior
01-04-2010, 06:12 PM
Huh, seems like the only rare items I got on the ET Super Hard are Starlight and Clair Doubles both from Heaven's Mother too!
And by the way, the Clair Doubles....has no Photon Art! LOL! So make that the Starlight alone!
Tizerak
01-04-2010, 06:21 PM
Im in it for the rares.... why would I want to spend all day locked into one place for leveling if I wanted to level I would do the regular zones to make it not so monotinous
Im in it for the rares.... why would I want to spend all day locked into one place for leveling if I wanted to level I would do the regular zones to make it not so monotinous
Agreed. I only go into the tower for rares from mothers. Usually on a night where Im not so tired... I can manage 30 floors... lately its been so cold, I can only manage 10 floors before I sleep lol.
Tizerak
01-04-2010, 07:19 PM
yeah.... im not doing this again for awhile.... been like all day 20 floors to go though sheesh
Java378
01-04-2010, 07:29 PM
Got my femini in Hard mode.
Tizerak
01-04-2010, 09:51 PM
Well that felt like a horrible waste of time, the only thing Heavens Mother dropped of note to tease me with was a 1 slot Mobius Plate, definately not doing this again for awhile, not worth it, oh well 20 trigrinders and 10 more inventory slots are good I guess
Macman
01-04-2010, 10:45 PM
I finished my first SH tower run.
Things of interest to me that dropped from Heaven's Mother were a Grand Chariot, a Crimson Vis that had more hit than my previous one, a Flame Hit Kleingold with a level 4 element (as opposed to my level 2) and more hit, and a 3 slot Rika's Suit (WHY ONLY 3?!).
Other than that the only other things I found appealing during that run was a Gigas Romulus.
Floors 60+ are hell, how do you people manage such a thing? I've had Arkzeins OHKO me with their missiles at level 95.
Floors 60+ are hell, how do you people manage such a thing? I've had Arkzeins OHKO me with their missiles at level 95.
I just sent in my NPC's to take the hits for me (attack all out or w/e its called mode) while moving towards the other one, no missles if somethings in melee range of both.
Super hard tower... only did 10 floors, got a level up but nothing of note (nothing 7 star or sells for 10 meseta) seemed easy, but then it would as its the first 10 floors
Macman
01-06-2010, 12:25 AM
I just sent in my NPC's to take the hits for me (attack all out or w/e its called mode) while moving towards the other oneThat's a good plan on paper, until you realize they all die in about 15 seconds without Sarisa doing any heals.
Then you're left with 2 of the buggers facing you.
My best hope was just just try and keep the NPCs alive beforehand so they keep their PB and just Granrir the crap out of them.
I finished my first SH tower run.
Things of interest to me that dropped from Heaven's Mother were a Grand Chariot, a Crimson Vis that had more hit than my previous one, a Flame Hit Kleingold with a level 4 element (as opposed to my level 2) and more hit, and a 3 slot Rika's Suit (WHY ONLY 3?!).
Other than that the only other things I found appealing during that run was a Gigas Romulus.
Floors 60+ are hell, how do you people manage such a thing? I've had Arkzeins OHKO me with their missiles at level 95.
That sounded like a crappy run to be honest... Grand Chariot and Crimson Vis are one of the more common mother drops imo...
Tizerak
01-06-2010, 08:28 AM
Yeah thats how my run went too "oh boy 7 star item! oh wait its one of the crappy 7 star ones -_-" or had no element/photon blast (I auto destroy items without PA's)
Macman
01-06-2010, 09:04 AM
That sounded like a crappy run to be honest... Grand Chariot and Crimson Vis are one of the more common mother drops imo...Yeah, it was, but I was pleased by the Grand Chariot because it had the PA I wanted, with some amount of hit, is the strongest spear my RAcast can use, and I've been using Eclamasach for too long anyway.
I found 3 Frunakeds on the way up too, no Clair Doubles. :/
I don't think I'll ever touch the SH tower again above the first 20 floors. It's just not worth the effort.
scampy
01-06-2010, 09:27 AM
I just completed my first SH run of the tower, think I got some pretty beefy stuff. Notable mentions include Zero Saber, H44 Missouri, Yellow Sun, Crimson Vis, Nemisis, Loneos and Rika's Suit. Too bad all of them have crappy elements and percents (except for Nemisis, which has lvl 4 Heat and 29% Machine... but the bazooka is the worst of all gun types in my opinion). I think all of these apart from H44 were dropped by the mothers.
The odd thing is that I spent ages trying to get most of those weapons by playing through normal levels and failed. Rioh Snowfield must have been completed about 30 times, but no H44 Missouri or Yellow Sun; Gurhacia Valley must have been played through 40 times, but no Crimson Vis. This leads me to believe that the tower is superior for rare item hunters, although perhaps I was just abnormally lucky on my first try.
As far as completing the tower goes, it's mainly Arkzein and the occasional Helion that trip me up (the gun resistance is particularly irksome, as I'm playing as a RAcaseal). Everything else falls under the might of the Flame hit PA. ;)
Macman
01-06-2010, 09:33 AM
You suck. Gimme that H44. ;_;
Mothers don't drop me jack shit.
Tizerak
01-06-2010, 11:27 AM
man Arkzeins were kinda steadily tough the whole game, Helions were like lawl w/e this thing is easy, and then you hit Super Hard and Helions maul your face and your NPCs -_-
And I hate both because they go on "fits" where they just spam a skill over and over, Arkzein will chain charge, or chain poop mines, Helion WONT STOP JUMPING sometimes and it frustrates me to no end
I just completed my ET run and I got crappy drops as well =/ Was hoping for Rika's Suit but meh.
FoMarlBorough
01-07-2010, 02:45 PM
its funny when you find yourself saying, "awww just another crap seven-star drop"
or "if it had higher %'s i would use it"
Macman
01-08-2010, 07:13 AM
Or the worst yet: "I found this awesome weapon, but it has no PA!"
Tizerak
01-08-2010, 09:23 AM
Ugh I hate that Macman "wow 7 star weapon with max element! oh look 2 high percents! and and! .... no PA" *feeds it to Mag*
ARChan
01-08-2010, 11:43 AM
Ugh I hate that Macman "wow 7 star weapon with max element! oh look 2 high percents! and and! .... no PA" *feeds it to Mag*
That was the case with the Nemesis I got one time XD
Tizerak
01-08-2010, 12:41 PM
I hate that "hold your breath" moment when you find a good item and check its stats and then you get to the armor slots or PA page and get a let down >< but if it is 4 slots or good PA its like whoopeee!
rickfrior
01-08-2010, 12:43 PM
HAHAHA! Yeah, just yesterday I got this Zero Rifle from Heaven's Mother, dang I was so surprised and all but when I checked, not only does it not have any Element but a Photon Art as well! EPIC!
Cruciarius
01-08-2010, 12:43 PM
I've yet to do super hard tower (just finished Hard), but in my normal and hard tower runs, I always got at least 1 red box off the mothers. Usually a material.
Both my normal and hard runs also got me a soul in each. Can't wait for super hard tower, though I know it's gonna be a painful experience... too bad can't do it WiFi.
scampy
01-08-2010, 03:27 PM
Guess my first try was just unusually lucky... I've repeated the SH tower twice since then and I've got hardly anything decent. X)
At least I've got practice from those runs and can now complete the tower pretty quickly. Arkzein will forever remain a thorn in my side due to some cheap game mechanics (such as charging at me when I'm up against a wall and killing me before it's possible to recover), but everything else is pretty easy for a level 90+ character.
Will not stop until I get a decent handgun with Flame Hit... honestly, I'm still using a damn Kleingold here...
Macman
01-08-2010, 04:29 PM
Will not stop until I get a decent handgun with Flame Hit... honestly, I'm still using a damn Kleingold here...You too?! I've been killing rabbits forever with no luck!
I found a Rouge Pulse but with no freaking PA.
scampy
01-08-2010, 04:37 PM
Yeah man it's a real pain. I actually did find a Rouge Pulse with Flame Hit, but... no element, meaning that my Celeb Kleingold still does more damage to it. I've found H10 and H44 too but alas, no Flame Hit to speak of. :(
Number of Usanny killed: 3532 and rising.
Pro tip: I think the first section of Rioh Snowfields contains way more Usanny than the second, so unless you care about Hildegeo's rare item drops just keep on reseting the field once you reach the second half.
You too?! I've been killing rabbits forever with no luck!
I found a Rouge Pulse but with no freaking PA.
lol using kleingold too... great for fighting wetlands D:
This place has really created a love-hate relationship for me and the NPCs I hate that I cant make my own custom tactic to get em to do what I want cause they're so worthless on damage and dont heal or anything when they're supposed to but its funny as hell watching sarisa rez a teamate and not heal him only to watch it die again.
Sometimes ill just get so mad at them ill run up to an explosive box and blow it up just to watch em die.
I frequently finish battles and look around to see that all the npcs have died yet again and I think to myself about how much they deserve it. Especially that Sarisa. There's only one thing I want her to do (heal) and yet she wastes all her time on some lame attacks no matter what mode she's in.
kirtblue
01-09-2010, 05:48 PM
I frequently finish battles and look around to see that all the npcs have died yet again and I think to myself about how much they deserve it. Especially that Sarisa. There's only one thing I want her to do (heal) and yet she wastes all her time on some lame attacks no matter what mode she's in.
if shes not healing change the tactics to safety first that should help
FoMarlBorough
01-10-2010, 09:45 AM
ahhh, so much for seven star mag food.
i usually find my best stuff in the first few floors. finally unlocked sh mode and at 85, my fomarl is a little underleveled. the npc's are kinda getting in the way. the fluid drain is a pain. its a chore to stretch the fluids for 10 floors. the mothers dont like my burn/poison combo, it seems kai has a use after all. he burns, i poison, then i sit back and slicer away.
ZetsumeiSan
01-10-2010, 04:49 PM
I haven't tried the Eternal Tower on SH yet. Been doing Valley runs for a Riverman I would be satisfied with.
acidOD
01-13-2010, 09:00 AM
Anyone sat down and soloed through the entire ET on SH mode yet in one session of nonstop play? lolz
Best I've been able to muster as of late is 10-20 floors in a given night and then I'm off to sleepy sleep land.
Tizerak
01-13-2010, 09:06 AM
Eh, the only time I did SH tower was semi-non stop, I would shut the lid and poke around the forums for a bit, but never went to play something or whatever.
In fact I made this thread on that run :P glad to see it's still running with people sharing their woes of the ridculousness!
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